Topic: Summer Olympics 2024 - page 20. (Read 5846 times)

Prior to the Olympics, I didn't know about him. For someone that missed majority of the swimming events but still see Leon Marchand getting crown with a gold medal every single time. It's really impressive to say the least. What even interesting is that he didn't just win one category but had to do it more than two times to show that it wasn't a mistake that he got the gold medal the first time.  I will keep watching him to see if he gets to win any more medal but even if he doesn't, he already has his place in the history books.

huh? Imane Khelif is not a man, she was born a woman and Identified as a woman all her life, the issue was her high testosterone which is because of the medical she has. Imane Khelif also competed in the Tokyo Olympics and no one batted an eye during that time, I find it weird that a lot of people are in an uproar because a woman who naturally has high testosterone who previously competed in the Tokyo Olympics beat another woman in under 46 seconds.

Alcatraz has had djokovic's number lately.  I'm not a huge tennis guy but I love top competition.  Think this no matter what will be djokovic's highest medal even if he loses.  Seems like this was the gold medal match everyone wants to see.  It's been a pretty good Olympics so far with track and field just starting up.  Haven't bet at all but thinking about hitting the 100m and 200m dashes. Will make it more interesting.

I wouldn't still agree if there's a mix male-female for the category of females. This is an outright punch to the federation of Olympics for allowing this to happen. They should give an honorary award to Angela Carini for standing and still fought that guy for 45 seconds.

That's true, he became popular and has got that charisma thanks to whoever has taken those images of him. And you're right, he went for the gold medal with that stance and no equipment except earplugs but fell short and got still, silver medal.

That's really unfair, men and women shouldn't box. How did the Olympic committee allow this to happen. While everyone is liking what's happening for their representatives getting their own gold medals, on this category, it's a shame to the organization.

It's really unfair, the musculinity power of men and women are unequal. And Angela said on an interview that she's never been punched like that by a men. The power punches of women to women are equal but not with this case.

Am too that old when it comes to the Olympics games and competition but I won't lie, if you hadn't mentioned that this person is a her then I would have thought that this is definitely a man and I think there is also a similar case with a boxer in this present Olympic games although I don't really know the names but despite the fact that her testerone levels are way up making her physique more like a man she is still allowed to participate although don't know if the boxer is also the type of athlete that takes stuff to increase their strength.

Heh, social media has come to BTT. Just get over shit and deal with whatever decision and result comes by. I seriously doubt people complained as much before as they do today. Want to get gold? Do whatever it takes, but do not be a crybaby.

Now, are France going to spank Argentina properly in the second half? I don't know. I'm going to bed.

A new Olympic record was broken in the 10 thousand meters final
Cheptegei from Uganda set the new Olympic Record with 26 minutes and 43 seconds.
Cheptegei, who previously won a silver medal in the games held in Japan. This time he won the gold medal, breaking a record.
This was a first in Ugandan history.
Congratulations...

I don't when it has become a crime to win an Olympic boxing fight. Some people have been using both social media and other news channels to speak badly about the Algerian female boxer.

These attackers of Imane Khelif are either biased, misinformed or have racist tendencies. They are talking as if Angela Carini was thrown into the ring to fight a man. Khelif might have faced some difficulty in the past in proving her sex, but she is not a superwoman. She has lost nine fights and even lost in the last Olympics fighting against women. Using the case of an unprepared boxer who decided to throw in the towel after 46 seconds to discredit the Algerian is not acceptable. Would there be an outcry from these racists if it was the Italian that won the fight?

The Olympic committee has stated that she passed the criteria to compete in the competition. She should be given the support to continue and not be distracted by these unwarranted attacks.

Tennis is now close to the end.
Djokovic today won against Musetti and now we have the 2 players that are in the final.
The finla will be Dkokovic vs Alcaraz.
Novak dominated the game winning 2 set at 0 for 6-4 and 6-2.
The final will be Sunday.

Tomorrow we will have the semifinal between Musetti and Felix Aliassime

I'm curious how many in sports are old enough to remember her:



Yeah, definitely a she, and still holds the 800m  record from 1983!
I wonder what would happen if she would compete now,of course setting aside the thing everyone knew she was taking something for sure, but at different times, harder to prove doping then.

Still, the problem with Imane Khelif  is her testosterone levels, we have a previous case of a pure female banned for those levels:
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/06/sport/caster-semenya-totestosterone-limits-world-athletics-spt-intl/index.html
they allowed Khelif to participate without this test.

I felt really sorry for the opposing boxer, just imagine... preparing for years and years and then during an Olympic competition this happens... fighting against an athlete who failed the gender test, Angela Carini must be feeling the worst feeling in the world, which is injustice...

Even if Imane Khelif is not transsexual, she has testosterone levels that are much higher than normal, so in my opinion, this should be equivalent to doping, that is, she would not be able to fight or compete in these Olympics under any circumstances... it is comparable to some kind of cheating to win.

They have made significant changes in their approach towards the match, they must have indeed learned form their loss to Egypt, but that said Japan also hit the woodwork a couple of times and had some decent chances of the their own, they just could find the back of the next.

Egypt have also just restored parity against Paraguay, Paraguay had taken the lead mid way into the 2nd half and looked like they'll be running away with it, but not just yet says the Egyptians as this could be headed for an extra 30 minutes of play.

I think we are all wrong if we assume and accuse him of cheat by saying that he has changed his status from a man to a woman, because if we were more knowing a lot about the laws in other countries, of course we will understand that not all countries will allow gender changes, including Algeria and the majority of other Muslim countries, Imane Khalif's victory in my opinion is valid if we refer to the regulations and also the decisions taken by the Paris Boxing Unit (PBU) which upholds Justice, Inclusion and Non-discrimination on the basis of gender identity, so that as a woman of course she deserves to fight with women, but if the boxing authorities disqualify her just because she has a testosterone disorder or hormones that are skewed like men, isn't that also one discrimination against someone who has a hormonal disorder since birth?
I would agree that he is disqualified if he is proven to have changed his gender but isn't he currently not proven to have done so?
I think the case that happened to Imane Khalif is very complicated and the sports and Olympic committees need to make wise decisions because it will involve the career of someone who has the same rights as other people.

It seems that the case that happened to Imane Khalif has also happened to other athletes:
https://apnews.com/article/caster-semenya-sex-eligbility-court-ruling-0ad6f46e1357659f8cc315dde7b01faf

I thought this match would be quite tough but in the end it was an easy win for Spain. Japan only looked good in the beginning but when Spain found their first goal, that was what became a disaster for Japan. Instead of equalizing the score, Japan even conceded 2 more goals. It seems that it wasn't just Spain's first goal that broke Japan's mentality but they also had to accept the bitter reality when their goal was disallowed by VAR.

Spain really looked different compared to when they played against Egypt. They played quite impressively and no longer made mistakes that resulted in them losing the previous match.

Fortunately, someone posted true information. I have also been shocked by so many people saying that she is a man without first investigating what is really happening to her. Imane Khalif has a disease called hyperandrogenism, which is a disease that causes a person to produce testosterone at a very abnormal level. On one of the Portuguese news sites where I was able to read more about her, they posted a photo of her when she was a child. Here is the photo:



Imane Khalif is a woman, she was born a woman. Another point is that the laws regarding gays in Algeria:


source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Algeria

I doubt that Algeria, being a country where Islam is its religion and has strict laws against homosexuality, would take a man who changed his sex to the Olympic Games.

The organizers of the Olympics are to be blamed for this. They are not supposed to allow this to happen at the first instance for one whose gender has been changed from male to female. The strength of them being men will still be in them despite their gender changed to woman.

The 40 seconds defeat was the fastest in boxing history. The blow on his nose was really painful for her not to continue with the fight. I really pity her to fight a man in woman form

Leon Marchand has established himself as a legend in the Olympics by winning 2 back to back golds in a matter of hours which even someone like Phelps never achieved and that speaks volumes.

This dude doesn't look like he is in the mood to stop anytime soon and I guess he will win some more medals before this Olympics edition concludes.

Spain U23 have literally continued from where their senior national team left off in Euro 2024, they're are completely tearing this Japan team apart, and the Japan team have looked pretty solid so far all through the group stages, scoring 7 goals and never conceded any goal until today that Spain have put 3 unanswered goals past them right now, two from another Barcelona sensation Fermin Lopez and one from Abel Ruiz, this definitely all wrapped up for Spain with just 5 additional minutes left to play for.

There has been a ton of talks about Imane Khalif and how she is a transgender, and there has been a lot of misinformation going on from both sides as well. The fact is that she was born a woman, she is not a transgender, the amount of talks about how Olympics let a transgender hit a woman is a right wing talk and because of that she has become a target, they are just using her to make a point about themselves, and their hatred for the LGBT community.

However, left isn't really that naïve neither, they are ignoring the fact that she has a sickness that meant she was born a woman and stayed a woman so she is not a transgender but she also has a disease which meant she had male levels of hormone, making her as strong as a man, not a woman, making things unfair for most.

Don't get me wrong, Imane has 9 losses in her career, she is not some super human, if a male fought these ladies he would destroy them unless he is some weakling, this woman is a woman, but she has a disease that makes her incredibly strong compared to any other woman, there are only a few hundred to thousand people who has this disease and none of them are boxers, just Imane Khalif, so everyone thought she was transgender. Both sides are wrong, no she is not transgender, she wasn't born a male and transitioned, but she is also not any regular woman neither, so it's still unfair.

This is also a consideration because if I'm not mistaken she was previously disqualified at the 2023 World Championships but did qualify for the 2024 Olympics this time.
It will be a debate for Imane Khelif because as you said even though we cannot condemn her choice to be transgender but still for this championship it is another consideration because of the difference in strength between men and women.

Although this may have been a collective decision when deciding Imane Khelif to continue competing, it seems that as long as she is still in the Olympics and may even become a champion later then it is certain that there will be a lot of pros and cons for her victory, and as evidenced for yesterday's match alone, many people have argued and even seemed to be cornered which I think is also unfair to Imane Khelif but in the end this also happened because of her decision to be in the Olympic boxing branch this year.