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The good thing about Federer advancing to the quarter finals is that he now gains a good bit of confidence. Not only did he get there, but he made it there in 3 - 0 game. I think now in the quarter finals he has a very good chance to also beat Medvedev (if he makes it to the quarters) or the other guy as well. When would he face Novak Djokovic? Semifinals or final?
Berrettini's journey continues on the English grass, beating Belarusian Ilya Ivashka 3 sets to 0 in the round of 16 at Wimbledon without any worries. The Italian left only one service turn to his opponent in an hour and 49 minutes of play, but only in the second set and with a comfortable 5-2 advantage with a double break. There was too much difference between the two players, with the Italian number one statistically giving up only in the aces (7 to 8 for Ivashka), but dominating in all the other fundamental categories (the differential between the Italian's winners and those of the Belarusian is even +20, despite a few more unforced errors).
From what I've seen so far, Federer is struggling a lot. He's still good enough to beat most of the players on quick surfaces and will probably go past Sonego, but after that he has to face Medvedev who will probably be too much for him.
It's truly impressive to see how Federer is still going strong but I'm also a bit sad because the newer generations will remember this Federer - who is vulnerable and is struggling. I'll always remember the one that simply crushed anything in front of him and who glided on the court without even breaking a sweat while delivering worldclass offensive tennis match after match.
I hope he wins this Wimbledon as a crown of his career - but it would really be a surprise. Even for him.
It's truly impressive to see how Federer is still going strong but I'm also a bit sad because the newer generations will remember this Federer - who is vulnerable and is struggling. I'll always remember the one that simply crushed anything in front of him and who glided on the court without even breaking a sweat while delivering worldclass offensive tennis match after match.
I hope he wins this Wimbledon as a crown of his career - but it would really be a surprise. Even for him.
Reading this made me feel sad indeed. He is 39 now and in my mind he is still 20s, strong, and smiling, and the whole world before him,,, it is very sad to see him play even though he won a straight set yesterday almost effortlessly (except first one). If he wins it will be labeled one of the greatest of all time, watch him!
What a surprise, Alexander Zverev has been eliminated. Federer plays his match confidently in 3 sets it seems. Medvedev's match is interrupted but it is not an easy match for him and he still has to make an effort. Djokovic also won his match confidently in 3 sets.
What a day, a lot happening today, I had two bets on, safe enough ones TBH,
Medvedev and Federer to win. Hopefully Medvedev can finish it out tomorrow.
Big upsets also today, Rublev beaten by Fucsovics who is having a good year
for himself so far and Zverev beaten by Felix AA.
On the womens side Jabeur beats Swiatek. Ons Jabeur from Tunisia is making her
own headlines as being her first time into a quarter final and first Tunisian also, she
now faces Sabalenka, a big task.
So Federer is always good for a surprise at Wimbledon, just like Nadal in Paris, but could he hold his own in a 5 set match against Djokovic? I almost don't think so, everything would have to work well for Federer and not for Djokovic. But Federer and Djokovic can only meet in the final anyway.
You'd have to favour Djokovic quite strongly. If he can beat Nadal on the clay, as he did in the French not so long ago, then he can beat Federer on the grass.
Federer is a phenomenal player, but he's not quite at his best any more. I'm not sure anyone can beat Djokovic here really.
What a surprise, Alexander Zverev has been eliminated. Federer plays his match confidently in 3 sets it seems. Medvedev's match is interrupted but it is not an easy match for him and he still has to make an effort. Djokovic also won his match confidently in 3 sets.
Has anybody watched Khachanov - Korda today? I had over games on my ticket and stopped watching after they entered 5th set. Later on I checked result and saw that they had more breaks then holds of serve. Wtf? Men on grass playing like it is WTA on clay?
LOL, what?
I didn't watch the match but I have Khachanov (-0.5) @1.86. I just saw the score and he lost the first set but I know he can come back and cover that spread and eventually he did.
Surprisingly to see Fucsovics beating Rublev in 5 sets. I think he is one of the dark horse in this Wimbledon. Djokovic is also thru to the next game, 3 sets win against Garin.
Has anybody watched Khachanov - Korda today? I had over games on my ticket and stopped watching after they entered 5th set. Later on I checked result and saw that they had more breaks then holds of serve. Wtf? Men on grass playing like it is WTA on clay?
Good to hear the Federer has won again, it seems that he is getting back to his form. It was a tough battle against Norrie. Sonego is next, but he is more of a clay court player, so I guess Federer has some advantage of him.
Medvedev has to be stretch by Cilic in a 5 setter, it's a good comeback from Medvedev as he is down 2 sets but he recovers himself and won the next 3.
Medvedev has to be stretch by Cilic in a 5 setter, it's a good comeback from Medvedev as he is down 2 sets but he recovers himself and won the next 3.
I guess Federer is always a nostalgic choice for many of us here. I was watching an ad for Wimbledon and they were showing a lot of Federer moments and,,, it just makes me realize how old he looks now after all those times spent in taking care of injuries.
It would be awesome if somehow he makes it to the final to face Djokovic,,, still 12/1 odds on him!
So Federer is always good for a surprise at Wimbledon, just like Nadal in Paris, but could he hold his own in a 5 set match against Djokovic? I almost don't think so, everything would have to work well for Federer and not for Djokovic. But Federer and Djokovic can only meet in the final anyway.
Djokovic vs Garin (-9.5) Djokovic @1.87, what can you say @Trofo - can he cover it?
Have no idea, 9.5 is a lot on grass and I did not see Djoko play on grass this year. Too much football taking my time. He can cover it for sure if he decides to make a statement but more often than not players are happy with one break on grass and don't push too much after getting it.I am skipping it but if I wanted to put some money on this match I would go for Djokovic under 18.5 games. Basically a bet that he will take all sets without letting opponent get to 5 or 6 games.
They call it Manic Monday, the first Monday of the 2nd week of Wimbledon. To reach it is already a small conquest: it means to have survived the first, hellish seven days and to have become part of the restricted club of the best sixteen. Among these there is also the class Sebastian Korda, who surprisingly imposed himself on the specialists De Minaur and Evans, both overcome in three sets. The American has talent and, despite still being very young, is showing it a bit on all surfaces. In the round of 16 he will face another who, according to the forecasts, should not have reached so high: the Russian Karen Khachanov. Who, in the third round, didn't even leave the crumbs to the excellent Tiafoe, who in turn executed Tsitsipas at the beginning.
Right now Korda leads on Kachanov 5-2
Right now Korda leads on Kachanov 5-2
~snip
I hope he wins this Wimbledon as a crown of his career - but it would really be a surprise. Even for him.
I hope he wins this Wimbledon as a crown of his career - but it would really be a surprise. Even for him.
yeah, he would be highly surprised to win the competition
he is struggling now, but still play the tennis, that is real tennis, not chasing each ball in defense, but attacking on each opportunity and with powerful shots
nevertheless, he was much better in third round compared to first two (especially first with Manarino), but needs a lot more to pass into SF, and even more for the Final (I do not think he would make it to SF, TBH)
^^ He will be facing Sonego next, which is more of a clay surface player. So I think that Federer can get past him but it could be in 4 or even 5 setter here. He is still the favourite to win, and I'm looking at the O/U and probably will bet later on other events.
Djokovic vs Garin (-9.5) Djokovic @1.87, what can you say @Trofo - can he cover it?
Djokovic vs Garin (-9.5) Djokovic @1.87, what can you say @Trofo - can he cover it?
From what I've seen so far, Federer is struggling a lot. He's still good enough to beat most of the players on quick surfaces and will probably go past Sonego, but after that he has to face Medvedev who will probably be too much for him.
It's truly impressive to see how Federer is still going strong but I'm also a bit sad because the newer generations will remember this Federer - who is vulnerable and is struggling. I'll always remember the one that simply crushed anything in front of him and who glided on the court without even breaking a sweat while delivering worldclass offensive tennis match after match.
I hope he wins this Wimbledon as a crown of his career - but it would really be a surprise. Even for him.
It's truly impressive to see how Federer is still going strong but I'm also a bit sad because the newer generations will remember this Federer - who is vulnerable and is struggling. I'll always remember the one that simply crushed anything in front of him and who glided on the court without even breaking a sweat while delivering worldclass offensive tennis match after match.
I hope he wins this Wimbledon as a crown of his career - but it would really be a surprise. Even for him.
Good to hear the Federer has won again, it seems that he is getting back to his form. It was a tough battle against Norrie. Sonego is next, but he is more of a clay court player, so I guess Federer has some advantage of him.
Medvedev has to be stretch by Cilic in a 5 setter, it's a good comeback from Medvedev as he is down 2 sets but he recovers himself and won the next 3.
Medvedev has to be stretch by Cilic in a 5 setter, it's a good comeback from Medvedev as he is down 2 sets but he recovers himself and won the next 3.
I guess Federer is always a nostalgic choice for many of us here. I was watching an ad for Wimbledon and they were showing a lot of Federer moments and,,, it just makes me realize how old he looks now after all those times spent in taking care of injuries.
It would be awesome if somehow he makes it to the final to face Djokovic,,, still 12/1 odds on him!
There are a lot of surprises in the women's competition, many favorites have already dropped out of the tournament, so it is very difficult to say who will win this tournament.
Maybe Barty, Pliskova or Sabalenka, Gauff is probably still too young.
What do you think?
Yes, the women's section is always full of surprises. In recent years, Grand Slam champions have almost always been filled with new names.Maybe Barty, Pliskova or Sabalenka, Gauff is probably still too young.
What do you think?
Gauff is still very young but she could be the next surprise, Sabalenka and pliskova are my favorites and Barty are still very solid so far, It's hard to predict who will make it to the final and lift the throphy.
What surprised me the most over the last couple of years is how out of a sudden Serena Williams' dominance literally fell apart. She smashed them all, sometimes 6-0 6-0, and everyone thought she is going to break the grand slam championship record by miles. That dominance over within just no time. It doesn't feel like she could return successfully and become number one again. I am curious when Djokovic's dominance will be broken.
Serena started to play tennis at age 14, and obviously, wear and tear are going to catch up with here. So most probably her dominance is over, she is no longer in his prime. Djokovic is very different though, he is somewhat enjoying another round of this greatest tennis performance after coming back from his worst injury in 2018-2019. I think the competitiveness inside of Djokovic can be compare to players like Jordan. His focus, his hunger and he just want to defeat everyone but breaking them apart.
Djokovic is all about mental aspect of the game and not giving anything to his opponents. There is nobody even close to his level of concentration and focus. Everybody has a bad day in the office and he managed to take his game on a such level that even on his worst day he can still perform like top 10 player and wait for his opportunity. That is unbelievable and something I have never seen in any sport before.
Nole is an amazing athlete, what he achieved and what is yet to be achieved, makes him one of the best if not the best tennis player ever, he does not have any weak points, and he is perfect on every surface, i actually think he can win all four grand slams this year, he is such an inspiration for kids, but the media kind of favors Federer over him. Good to hear the Federer has won again, it seems that he is getting back to his form. It was a tough battle against Norrie. Sonego is next, but he is more of a clay court player, so I guess Federer has some advantage of him.
Medvedev has to be stretch by Cilic in a 5 setter, it's a good comeback from Medvedev as he is down 2 sets but he recovers himself and won the next 3.
Seems that he is getting better by the games because we have seen him struggle against mannarino and that was his worst game but against norrie he really improved his performance but if he want to advance he need more a lot of difficult opponent to came even sonego is playing good in this tournement. Medvedev has to be stretch by Cilic in a 5 setter, it's a good comeback from Medvedev as he is down 2 sets but he recovers himself and won the next 3.
There are a lot of surprises in the women's competition, many favorites have already dropped out of the tournament, so it is very difficult to say who will win this tournament.
Maybe Barty, Pliskova or Sabalenka, Gauff is probably still too young.
What do you think?
Yes, the women's section is always full of surprises. In recent years, Grand Slam champions have almost always been filled with new names.Maybe Barty, Pliskova or Sabalenka, Gauff is probably still too young.
What do you think?
Gauff is still very young but she could be the next surprise, Sabalenka and pliskova are my favorites and Barty are still very solid so far, It's hard to predict who will make it to the final and lift the throphy.
What surprised me the most over the last couple of years is how out of a sudden Serena Williams' dominance literally fell apart. She smashed them all, sometimes 6-0 6-0, and everyone thought she is going to break the grand slam championship record by miles. That dominance over within just no time. It doesn't feel like she could return successfully and become number one again. I am curious when Djokovic's dominance will be broken.
As for Serena, I think there are three reasons why her dominance in women's tennis has ended: pregnancy and a temporary career break, the new tennis star Osaka and Serena's age.
Unfortunately, I believe it can be said that pregnancy stopped Serena in her tennis career and prevented her from winning a record number of GS titles.
When Serena finally returned, a new tennis star appeared, Osaka, and she beat Serena in several big GS finals and now Serena is already an older and slower player, at the end of her career and with more frequent injuries.
Djokovic's dominance is likely to take several more years.
I also believe it has a lot to do with trust in yourself. When you are rolling, you are simply rolling. You don't even doubt you will win. If there is a break in this rhythm for whatever reason, you either immediately find back your former confidence or you'll have a problem. It happens so often to players of any sport. I believe that the self-doubt she developed along with a few big losses now put an end to her formerly realistic chance to become the all-time champion. She deserved it though as she was really unbelievable. Her dominance was even harder than Djokovic's.
Djokovic is all about mental aspect of the game and not giving anything to his opponents. There is nobody even close to his level of concentration and focus. Everybody has a bad day in the office and he managed to take his game on a such level that even on his worst day he can still perform like top 10 player and wait for his opportunity. That is unbelievable and something I have never seen in any sport before.
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