Terrence Crawford vs Errol Spence - July 29

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I think the result will be different if the fight happened before the accident which Spence actual prime. A very one sided match is very unattractive for a rematch.

And yet many people believe that Spence will do better in a rematch, and Crawford believes that he will have a hard time in their rematch I guess this is to sell the rematch because there's still huge money involved in the rematch, but this is a risky match for Spence if he gets beaten again the same way Crawford beats him, but I'm hoping we'll see a different Spence and maybe we can have a trilogy.

But we all know Crawford, wants to fight the Charlos and the only way to have momentum for that fight is to beat Spence again decisively.

I also think that way, for promotion and to make sure that fans will continue to follow them and support them with this possible rematch,

The money that can to flow is very decent for sure. Both fans wanted to see their warriors to
bring all the best. Still in the impression that Crawford will bring Spence down, unless something behind
are being cooked to see a trilogy.

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Anyway, back to the discussion, Spence is already looking forward to contest the fight at 154 and so that is already safe to assume because he also said earlier this week that 147 lbs. division is not working for him anymore.

Good for him, but unfortunately, he might be able to face Crawford again, as the latter is also thinking of moving. So even if Spence will not activate that rematch, both are still going to face each other eventually if they beat the champions in that heavier division. Might as well, Spence would think smart. I mean, activating a rematch will guarantee money, and he just has to be confident he'll be able to even the rivalry between Crawford.

That will be his situation if ever he will choose to the path at 154 and I think he doesn't have that much option to begin with because even if he can still dominate 147 considering that Crawford vacates the division, his weight will probably not make it anymore or he will have a hard time first before he can achieve the much needed weight at 147 pounds. Not much left for him to do except accepting his current fate that he will always be the Number 2 while Crawford is still active to the sport.

Might be even at 154 lbs, Crawford said that Spence punch doesn't have a sting though, but I'm really thinking that he Spence might be really weight drain already at 147 lbs but this is not an excuse. Also if Mickey Garcia can stay with Spence and not getting knockout, then maybe it's true that Spence doesn't have that knockout power. But that's already moot point, we have seen that Crawford has destroyed him and now they want to activate the rematch clause but this time they want it at a weight that he is comfortable. And I don't see Crawford as well having problems making that 154 lbs, it's going to be easy for him. But as what the majority thinks, it could be another beating.

I believe about that as well because we can see that Crawford doesn't have any excuses about the rematch fight being contested at 154 and in fact he is more confident with it as it does coincide with his plan that he will fight at 154 division after unifying all belts which Spence got three of those beforehand. Now, it will be a win-win situation for them both because they don't have anything to lose and we can see how Spence will do in a weight that he is more comfortable with, which again I don't believe that he can make a difference if his opponent will be Crawford.

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Quote from: Beparanf on August 07, 2023, 10:11:28 AM

I think the result will be different if the fight happened before the accident which Spence actual prime. A very one sided match is very unattractive for a rematch.

And yet many people believe that Spence will do better in a rematch, and Crawford believes that he will have a hard time in their rematch I guess this is to sell the rematch because there's still huge money involved in the rematch, but this is a risky match for Spence if he gets beaten again the same way Crawford beats him, but I'm hoping we'll see a different Spence and maybe we can have a trilogy.

But we all know Crawford, wants to fight the Charlos and the only way to have momentum for that fight is to beat Spence again decisively.

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Quote from: Kemarit on August 07, 2023, 06:35:29 AM

And I don't see Crawford as well having problems making that 154 lbs, it's going to be easy for him. But as what the majority thinks, it could be another beating.

This is for sure. Spence will surely have less speed with increase weight while their match against Crawford was the main issue is the counter punch of being so accurate despite Spence aggression. Crawford jab kill Spence on their match and I doubt too that an increase weight will be a huge decisive factor on match like Crawford show to us. Spence is not the same after the accident. His punch doesn’t have any weight unlike before.

I think the result will be different if the fight happened before the accident which Spence actual prime. A very one sided match is very unattractive for a rematch.

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Anyway, back to the discussion, Spence is already looking forward to contest the fight at 154 and so that is already safe to assume because he also said earlier this week that 147 lbs. division is not working for him anymore.

Good for him, but unfortunately, he might be able to face Crawford again, as the latter is also thinking of moving. So even if Spence will not activate that rematch, both are still going to face each other eventually if they beat the champions in that heavier division. Might as well, Spence would think smart. I mean, activating a rematch will guarantee money, and he just has to be confident he'll be able to even the rivalry between Crawford.

That will be his situation if ever he will choose to the path at 154 and I think he doesn't have that much option to begin with because even if he can still dominate 147 considering that Crawford vacates the division, his weight will probably not make it anymore or he will have a hard time first before he can achieve the much needed weight at 147 pounds. Not much left for him to do except accepting his current fate that he will always be the Number 2 while Crawford is still active to the sport.

Might be even at 154 lbs, Crawford said that Spence punch doesn't have a sting though, but I'm really thinking that he Spence might be really weight drain already at 147 lbs but this is not an excuse. Also if Mickey Garcia can stay with Spence and not getting knockout, then maybe it's true that Spence doesn't have that knockout power. But that's already moot point, we have seen that Crawford has destroyed him and now they want to activate the rematch clause but this time they want it at a weight that he is comfortable. And I don't see Crawford as well having problems making that 154 lbs, it's going to be easy for him. But as what the majority thinks, it could be another beating.

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Quote from: Viscore on August 06, 2023, 01:13:00 AM

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Anyway, back to the discussion, Spence is already looking forward to contest the fight at 154 and so that is already safe to assume because he also said earlier this week that 147 lbs. division is not working for him anymore.

Good for him, but unfortunately, he might be able to face Crawford again, as the latter is also thinking of moving. So even if Spence will not activate that rematch, both are still going to face each other eventually if they beat the champions in that heavier division. Might as well, Spence would think smart. I mean, activating a rematch will guarantee money, and he just has to be confident he'll be able to even the rivalry between Crawford.

That will be his situation if ever he will choose to the path at 154 and I think he doesn't have that much option to begin with because even if he can still dominate 147 considering that Crawford vacates the division, his weight will probably not make it anymore or he will have a hard time first before he can achieve the much needed weight at 147 pounds. Not much left for him to do except accepting his current fate that he will always be the Number 2 while Crawford is still active to the sport.

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Quote from: Pamadar on August 06, 2023, 03:49:03 AM

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Anyway, back to the discussion, Spence is already looking forward to contest the fight at 154 and so that is already safe to assume because he also said earlier this week that 147 lbs. division is not working for him anymore.

Good for him, but unfortunately, he might be able to face Crawford again, as the latter is also thinking of moving. So even if Spence will not activate that rematch, both are still going to face each other eventually if they beat the champions in that heavier division. Might as well, Spence would think smart. I mean, activating a rematch will guarantee money, and he just has to be confident he'll be able to even the rivalry between Crawford.

If Spence and his camp will aim to secure a bulk amount of money, taking that rematch will surely give him a huge benefit.

What do you mean? Spence has no title, he was defeated and for sure they know that. However, they could have settled what percentage of the split in the rematch clause and maybe it's the reason what Spence wanted it specially at 154 lbs because he knows he has a better chance.

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I like that possibility that they might face each other again in a much heavier division, if that will take place
and Crawford beats Spence again. Then there's nothing to say but to admit that Crawford is far superior than
Spence thinks that he is, still waiting for any update regarding to what will be the next plan from both camps.

I think he has admitted that Crawford is the better man. But in the rematch, he will try to do his best and then settle the score 1-1 and if that happens then a trilogy is on the horizon. Meaning they need to settled the score and obviously there is more money for them in a 3 fight series.

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Anyway, back to the discussion, Spence is already looking forward to contest the fight at 154 and so that is already safe to assume because he also said earlier this week that 147 lbs. division is not working for him anymore.

Good for him, but unfortunately, he might be able to face Crawford again, as the latter is also thinking of moving. So even if Spence will not activate that rematch, both are still going to face each other eventually if they beat the champions in that heavier division. Might as well, Spence would think smart. I mean, activating a rematch will guarantee money, and he just has to be confident he'll be able to even the rivalry between Crawford.

If Spence and his camp will aim to secure a bulk amount of money, taking that rematch will surely give him a huge benefit.

I like that possibility that they might face each other again in a much heavier division, if that will take place
and Crawford beats Spence again. Then there's nothing to say but to admit that Crawford is far superior than
Spence thinks that he is, still waiting for any update regarding to what will be the next plan from both camps.

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Quote from: Viscore on August 06, 2023, 01:13:00 AM

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Anyway, back to the discussion, Spence is already looking forward to contest the fight at 154 and so that is already safe to assume because he also said earlier this week that 147 lbs. division is not working for him anymore.

Good for him, but unfortunately, he might be able to face Crawford again, as the latter is also thinking of moving. So even if Spence will not activate that rematch, both are still going to face each other eventually if they beat the champions in that heavier division. Might as well, Spence would think smart. I mean, activating a rematch will guarantee money, and he just has to be confident he'll be able to even the rivalry between Crawford.

Well we can only anticipate that there will be a rematch, and weeks after the fight, it is still the talk on social media and lots of analyst as how Spence lost and what he should do and what weight should be the next fight.

But if it is 154 lbs, then I guess Crawford will have to agree to it, afterall he might be also thinking of going up in weight as he targets the other Charlo who is the champion at 154 lbs. But not sure if he has been strip though as he will be fighting Canelo next. But if he is, then Tim Tszyu is not the champion.

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Anyway, back to the discussion, Spence is already looking forward to contest the fight at 154 and so that is already safe to assume because he also said earlier this week that 147 lbs. division is not working for him anymore.

Good for him, but unfortunately, he might be able to face Crawford again, as the latter is also thinking of moving. So even if Spence will not activate that rematch, both are still going to face each other eventually if they beat the champions in that heavier division. Might as well, Spence would think smart. I mean, activating a rematch will guarantee money, and he just has to be confident he'll be able to even the rivalry between Crawford.

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Quote from: Japinat on August 05, 2023, 09:32:28 AM

I slightly doubt that the scenario would be the same if there was no rematch clause to start with, Crawford already hinted that he's done at 147 and might fight at 154 next, part of that means that if a rematch clause wasn't secured on their first encounter, we might not get to see a rematch between the two of them.

Just like what happened to Pacquiao and Canelo during their days when they fought Floyd Mayweather Jr. because there was no rematch clause on their contract. Just a thought though.

Crawford welcomes the rematch and he even estimates the date of the rematch he believes that Spence will do better in their rematch, it will be easy for both fighters to accept the rematch as both fighters welcome it, it could have been different if the fight is close or a draw but Spence wants to get back and Crawford belives that he can beat Spence again and make money, they both have a desire and this is good for the boxing community.

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“Errol is a strong-minded and strong-willed individual,” Crawford said. “He’ll go back to the drawing board, come back stronger, hungrier, and fix the things he needed to fix to make the fight look different a second time, than the first time.”

CRAWFORD SAYS IF SPENCE JR. ACTIVATES REMATCH CLAUSE IT’LL TAKE PLACE BY DECEMBER

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I'm sure Spence's career is not over yet; he can still fight, so let's wait for his next move. If I were to be asked, I would like him to move up and forget his losses to Crawford. A new weight class means new challenges for him, and I think he will be more comfortable in a heavier division.

It's not yet too late for him to get a fresh start and not yet his time to start considering for a retirement, it's just a single loss and almost every boxer goes through that trouble. And just like how others describe this scenario, it's not about the loss, it's about how would they figure out the things to keep moving after such loss.

And as for Crawford, it's okay for him to fight Spence in a rematch that will be contested at 154 because either way, he will move up towards that division. It will be a win-win scenario because he doesn't have any belts to lose in that division.

That would probably shut Spence up if he still makes excuses and thinks he is more comfortable at 154. However, if Spence still loses, that would make him look bad to the fans, as it's hard to come back after multiple losses. He is probably like AJ, who lost twice against Usyk, and he isn't as popular as he was before.

Anyways, if Spence would want to ensure a good amount of money to be made, a rematch is always the answer since both of them are very popular now. It's an opportunity to easily market the fight. Both moving up would be good, as even if Spence loses, he can still fight other boxers in the same division until he figures out how to start winning.

However, I'm afraid that he will just be next to Crawford, as for sure, Crawford will dominate.

And witht this news, Jermell Charlo to be stripped of WBO title after fight with Canelo Alvarez, Tim Tszyu will be elevated, the competition would be easy for Crawford and Spence.

I think that Spence will activate the rematch clause and it will be at 154 lbs. But as you have said, there should be no excuses if he losses again to Crawford. But he could still fight though, but he has to work very hard to climb back to the position to even become a champion.

And if Charlo has been stripped, then it's good to hear the Tszyu has been elevated. I mean he should be fighting Charlo but it was called off because he got injured. Now, he is going to fight Canelo? So Tim really deserved to be the champion now at 154 lbs.

That's good to know because these PBC horses have been gaining advantage without having any mandatory fights or much less compared to the other champions in any other weight class. Either way, Charlo doesn't have much choice now because he chose to go with the path where there will be massive paychecks awaiting for him, can't blame him for that because not everyone has a chance to fight Canelo Alvarez.

Anyway, back to the discussion, Spence is already looking forward to contest the fight at 154 and so that is already safe to assume because he also said earlier this week that 147 lbs. division is not working for him anymore.

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This fight will live forever and will be watched by future generations to come than May-Pac and May-McGregor.

True, because it was an entertaining fight. Although May-Pac and May-McGregor both generated a lot of money, any fight involving Mayweather is known to be boring, and it seems like the fans are robbed. However, they didn't learn and still watched Mayweather's fights. Probably, they were hoping that Mayweather would lose, but it didn't happen, as Mayweather is just too good and knows how to dominate his opponents. Even Pacman in their fight looked amateur, LOL.

In fact, I didn't see any of Mayweather's fights where he doesn't have any advantage over his opponent. It's true that he got some warriors in his record but it's either his opponents were too young or too old just like when he fought Canelo and then Pacquiao. Overall, he might be undefeated, but I don't think that he's the best boxer ever just like how he used to call himself.

For him (Mayweather), is always a win. Whatever the people think of it, as long as it was clearly declared or announced nothing can be change, he retired as a champ without a loss.

beating a young Canelo and an aging Pacquiao, though as a fighter, there's no excuse when you lose the fight,
Mayweather will forever earn that glory after he retired his gloves.

Moving back to the topic, Spence, if ever decide to take another shot, he can still try to regain his glory unlike
with Mayweather, both Alvarez and Pacquiao did not get that chance to take a rematch.

I slightly doubt that the scenario would be the same if there was no rematch clause to start with, Crawford already hinted that he's done at 147 and might fight at 154 next, part of that means that if a rematch clause wasn't secured on their first encounter, we might not get to see a rematch between the two of them.

Just like what happened to Pacquiao and Canelo during their days when they fought Floyd Mayweather Jr. because there was no rematch clause on their contract. Just a thought though.

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I'm sure Spence's career is not over yet; he can still fight, so let's wait for his next move. If I were to be asked, I would like him to move up and forget his losses to Crawford. A new weight class means new challenges for him, and I think he will be more comfortable in a heavier division.

It's not yet too late for him to get a fresh start and not yet his time to start considering for a retirement, it's just a single loss and almost every boxer goes through that trouble. And just like how others describe this scenario, it's not about the loss, it's about how would they figure out the things to keep moving after such loss.

And as for Crawford, it's okay for him to fight Spence in a rematch that will be contested at 154 because either way, he will move up towards that division. It will be a win-win scenario because he doesn't have any belts to lose in that division.

That would probably shut Spence up if he still makes excuses and thinks he is more comfortable at 154. However, if Spence still loses, that would make him look bad to the fans, as it's hard to come back after multiple losses. He is probably like AJ, who lost twice against Usyk, and he isn't as popular as he was before.

Anyways, if Spence would want to ensure a good amount of money to be made, a rematch is always the answer since both of them are very popular now. It's an opportunity to easily market the fight. Both moving up would be good, as even if Spence loses, he can still fight other boxers in the same division until he figures out how to start winning.

However, I'm afraid that he will just be next to Crawford, as for sure, Crawford will dominate.

And witht this news, Jermell Charlo to be stripped of WBO title after fight with Canelo Alvarez, Tim Tszyu will be elevated, the competition would be easy for Crawford and Spence.

I think that Spence will activate the rematch clause and it will be at 154 lbs. But as you have said, there should be no excuses if he losses again to Crawford. But he could still fight though, but he has to work very hard to climb back to the position to even become a champion.

And if Charlo has been stripped, then it's good to hear the Tszyu has been elevated. I mean he should be fighting Charlo but it was called off because he got injured. Now, he is going to fight Canelo? So Tim really deserved to be the champion now at 154 lbs.

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Quote from: Vaculin on August 04, 2023, 10:26:20 AM

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I'm sure Spence's career is not over yet; he can still fight, so let's wait for his next move. If I were to be asked, I would like him to move up and forget his losses to Crawford. A new weight class means new challenges for him, and I think he will be more comfortable in a heavier division.

It's not yet too late for him to get a fresh start and not yet his time to start considering for a retirement, it's just a single loss and almost every boxer goes through that trouble. And just like how others describe this scenario, it's not about the loss, it's about how would they figure out the things to keep moving after such loss.

And as for Crawford, it's okay for him to fight Spence in a rematch that will be contested at 154 because either way, he will move up towards that division. It will be a win-win scenario because he doesn't have any belts to lose in that division.

That would probably shut Spence up if he still makes excuses and thinks he is more comfortable at 154. However, if Spence still loses, that would make him look bad to the fans, as it's hard to come back after multiple losses. He is probably like AJ, who lost twice against Usyk, and he isn't as popular as he was before.

Anyways, if Spence would want to ensure a good amount of money to be made, a rematch is always the answer since both of them are very popular now. It's an opportunity to easily market the fight. Both moving up would be good, as even if Spence loses, he can still fight other boxers in the same division until he figures out how to start winning.

However, I'm afraid that he will just be next to Crawford, as for sure, Crawford will dominate.

And witht this news, Jermell Charlo to be stripped of WBO title after fight with Canelo Alvarez, Tim Tszyu will be elevated, the competition would be easy for Crawford and Spence.

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So now, we will wait what will be the official PPV numbers and it has somewhat around 500k-800k or even break the 1 million mark.

The numbers are already out, Errol Spence Jr. Vs Terence Crawford PPV Buys Reach 700k, Bring In $50 Million In Revenue

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The highly anticipated boxing match between Terence Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. was a huge success, generating an estimated 700,000 pay-per-view buys and bringing in more than $50 Million in revenue. This is the highest number of buys for a boxing PPV since Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao in 2015.

You prediction is correct, the PPV buys is lower than the Garcia vs Davis fight but of course it's still a big success.

No doubt it was highly anticipated. Unifying those belts and the career win that Crawford needed to solidify his legacy. Doesn't take much anymore though the decent boxing matches that are worth ppv have gone dramatically so when one pops up it will get more hits than it would have in the past. Worth the price on this one. I will buy round 2 of this fight.

I guess everyone is waiting for round 2. But there are also boxing pundits that says that a rematch is not needed as it was overwhelming performance. However, if the fight is 154 lbs in which fans of Spence says that he was weight drain at 147 lbs and Crawford knows it, could be a different outcome.

So for me if there is a rematch, the numbers might not be as close as the first one. Even the GGG vs Canelo rematch was way below in revenues in terms of PPV as compare to the first one, if I'm not mistaken.

That's the beauty of the contract is that as part of the deal the lower can enact a rematch within 30 days of the match and it needs to go off by the end of 2023. There is no way Spence doesn't lock this in. If he ducks the rematch that's what his legacy will end up with. And the money on the table is gonna be huge. Whether it's needed or not it's likely Spence signs up for it.

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^ They already is under pressure on the numbers that Tank and Ryan has put up in their fight and I doubt that even if it is the biggest fight at 147 lbs since the Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, it will still be second best for this year.

But it's a biggest for Spence and Crawford and they should thank themselves for having this great numbers as pay-per-view and those who watch their fight live even if the price is steep.

No need to be pressured by the Tank-Garcia figures as it was boxing and a celebrity fight. Tank and Spence are on the same level of fans although it also means something because Spence is a unified champion while Tank is not even a champion for many years already. But Kingry is just too popular, he has no championship experience yet the casuals flocked and bought his biggest fight to date.

The numbers aren't final yet, it could be 650k or 700k. More like Jake Paul's first fight against a real boxer had higher PPV buys at 800k. Spence is not a trash talker while Bud seems not trying to make Spence mad or he's probably worried that Spence might cancel the fight. Cheesy

But still, it's a big successful fight, it should be able to generate at least $80 million in revenue. Crawford and Spence can take home $20 to $30+ million each. And the legacy of that fight is more worth than the money since they're all rich multi-millionaires anyway. Bud became the first-ever 2-division undisputed champion in this 4-belt era. This fight will live forever and will be watched by future generations to come than May-Pac and May-McGregor.

I only say they are under pressure because of the big hype around this fight. Especially when Crawford tries to negotiate and then failed. And then there were even news to announce this fight in the Garcia-Davis fight which didn't happen.

So they slow try to make some noise, but it seems that the Garcia-Davis fight has put the bar so high that as hard as both Spence and Crawford try to push the fight, very hard to topple the record of Garcia-Davis. But as we have said, this is still a successful fight generating close to maybe $50m-$80m. I do think thought that every boxer looks for their biggest paycheck, and so even if they are super rich, they wanted more. Just look at Floyd, even a billionaire and retired, he still goes for exhibition matches in Saudi or Middle East rich money.

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This fight will live forever and will be watched by future generations to come than May-Pac and May-McGregor.

True, because it was an entertaining fight. Although May-Pac and May-McGregor both generated a lot of money, any fight involving Mayweather is known to be boring, and it seems like the fans are robbed. However, they didn't learn and still watched Mayweather's fights. Probably, they were hoping that Mayweather would lose, but it didn't happen, as Mayweather is just too good and knows how to dominate his opponents. Even Pacman in their fight looked amateur, LOL.

In fact, I didn't see any of Mayweather's fights where he doesn't have any advantage over his opponent. It's true that he got some warriors in his record but it's either his opponents were too young or too old just like when he fought Canelo and then Pacquiao. Overall, he might be undefeated, but I don't think that he's the best boxer ever just like how he used to call himself.

For him (Mayweather), is always a win. Whatever the people think of it, as long as it was clearly declared or announced nothing can be change, he retired as a champ without a loss.

beating a young Canelo and an aging Pacquiao, though as a fighter, there's no excuse when you lose the fight,
Mayweather will forever earn that glory after he retired his gloves.

Moving back to the topic, Spence, if ever decide to take another shot, he can still try to regain his glory unlike
with Mayweather, both Alvarez and Pacquiao did not get that chance to take a rematch.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on August 04, 2023, 09:38:20 AM

This fight will live forever and will be watched by future generations to come than May-Pac and May-McGregor.

True, because it was an entertaining fight. Although May-Pac and May-McGregor both generated a lot of money, any fight involving Mayweather is known to be boring, and it seems like the fans are robbed. However, they didn't learn and still watched Mayweather's fights. Probably, they were hoping that Mayweather would lose, but it didn't happen, as Mayweather is just too good and knows how to dominate his opponents. Even Pacman in their fight looked amateur, LOL.

In fact, I didn't see any of Mayweather's fights where he doesn't have any advantage over his opponent. It's true that he got some warriors in his record but it's either his opponents were too young or too old just like when he fought Canelo and then Pacquiao. Overall, he might be undefeated, but I don't think that he's the best boxer ever just like how he used to call himself.

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Winding down.

Quote from: Viscore on August 04, 2023, 08:27:54 AM

I'm sure Spence's career is not over yet; he can still fight, so let's wait for his next move. If I were to be asked, I would like him to move up and forget his losses to Crawford. A new weight class means new challenges for him, and I think he will be more comfortable in a heavier division.

It's not yet too late for him to get a fresh start and not yet his time to start considering for a retirement, it's just a single loss and almost every boxer goes through that trouble. And just like how others describe this scenario, it's not about the loss, it's about how would they figure out the things to keep moving after such loss.

And as for Crawford, it's okay for him to fight Spence in a rematch that will be contested at 154 because either way, he will move up towards that division. It will be a win-win scenario because he doesn't have any belts to lose in that division.

Topic: Terrence Crawford vs Errol Spence - July 29 (Read 2406 times)