Topic: Terrence Crawford vs Errol Spence - July 29 - page 3. (Read 2396 times)

The Canelo-Charlo fight happens at 168 for the Mexican's undisputed title. I guess Canelo is still the biggest name in boxing so there is no point in dropping down in weight, especially at 154 which is zero percent chance of happening. Besides, Canelo was already a former unified champion at 154 and even at 160. So the only titles at stake are Canelo's belts.

I believe Jermell won't return to 154 after the Canelo fight. But in case he will and provided the sanctioning bodies won't strip him because he's got overdue mandatories already, he might not give Crawford a shot at being undisputed at 154. Jermell is a very close friend of Spence and he already mentioned before that he won't give Bud that shot. Jermell believes that Bud has to work his way up to 154's rankings to earn his shot. Money speaks though, so we'll see if Jermell is willing. Besides, Bud being undisputed can also request any of the 4 sanctioning bodies to make him mandatory.

With regards to a possible Canelo-Crawford megafight, I already saw interviews before about Bud saying he is not moving up to 168 or 175. The guy is honest, direct to the point and he is smart knowing his limits. Here's Bud's latest clip I saw last week being asked again about fighting Canelo;
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/t8jPI_p4bhE

He deserves the recognition he's receiving because what he has achieved is truly historical. Now, we can firmly believe that Crawford is the better fighter compared to Spence. Even if they decide to have a rematch, it's unlikely that the outcome would change unless Spence has something significant to upset the current champion. A potential trilogy would make the rivalry even more entertaining, as trilogies are always fun to watch in the world of boxing.

Now, regarding the possibility of Canelo vs Spence, it's certainly possible, and such a matchup would generate a lot of money for both teams. However, they would need to agree on a weight class that both fighters are comfortable with. I'm not sure which is harder, going down or going up in weight?

Definitely, however, if Charlo were to lose to Canelo, I think the fight between Charlo and Crawford might not happen as Canelo would become the champion, and therefore, if Crawford wants to challenge for the title, he would have to face Canelo at 154 lbs. But, I guess we are speculating too much for now; let's see the outcome of Canelo vs Charlo first, and then we can speculate on whether Canelo vs Crawford will happen.

As for Crawford, he can choose not to fight this year; he can enjoy the remaining part of the year by having a vacation, especially considering that he just made history this year.

That is a 3 weight, 21 pound difference. I doubt Canelo is capable of going down much further than super middleweight. If Crawford moved up and beat Canelo he would undoubtedly be considered among the greatest fighters ever. The difference is just too much for that fight to be possible any time soon. We could still get an idea of what would happen if Crawford fights Charlo and then we can compare their performance against the same fighter.

That's good for his career, but on the money side I mean from the promoters side, they will seek for money magnet matchup to make sure that they will convert more money while Crawford is still capable of protecting his belts.

Maybe I'm wrong, but we all know that boxing is a business, so wherever the money will flow, the chance
that we will see that direction to take place.

Just let Crawford and his camp to enjoy the win and take that luxurious rest with that huge moneypot
that he's collecting right now.

How about Crawford - Canelo both have a claim to be a crowd drawer and a pound-for-pound king, I don't think Canelo can impose his skill and power against Canelo the way Crawford devastated Spence if they cross their path I hope they do, Canelo will have a beating more than what he gets from his fight against Bivol.

Crawford is already 35 not many years left in his boxing career, so his promoters and handlers should think of fighting fighters in the pound-for-pound list that he can fight in a catch weight.

He would go for a rematch if he wants to make more money and would enjoy an easy win again. I'm not underestimating Spence, but the cards were already laid on the table. Spence was probably exposed, and there's no way he will even the rivalry. Crawford moving up is the best decision, in my opinion. That way, Crawford will be able to test his limits as he has already become an undisputed champion. Perhaps he can follow what Inoue and Canelo did after they became undisputed champions. Unfortunately, Canelo failed in his attempt, but Inoue had success, so maybe he will have success too.

Maybe the outcome of Canelo vs Jermell Charlo fight is very important because if Jermell Charlo were to win, I'm sure Crawford would see it as a good opportunity to fight Jermell Charlo by moving up, as a win would make him more popular.

Definitely, the rematch will happen. Spence wants it and Bud had no problem with the rematch as he understands it due to their agreement. In the post-press conference, Spence mentioned making the rematch at 154 and Bud answered he is good with it. This was anticipated as well hence why I also mentioned it in the past hoping any of the 4 belts to strip Jermell Charlo due to his inactivity or his long overdue mandatories and then let Bud and Spence fight for a vacant belt at 154 in their rematch.

Although I am not buying that Spence was dehydrated last weekend, he will come in stronger and bigger at 154. But it is hard to imagine how Spence can win over Bud. Spence and his coach Jamal James fought a perfect strategy but only to find out that Bud is just too accurate, too heavy-handed, and he cannot get hurt easily from the head down to his body.

Promoters would still make money in the rematch, so if both camps want to make it happen, there should be no problem in terms of profitability.

Although it was very evident how dominant Crawford was in the first fight, the outcome was still very entertaining, so the fans would still watch it.

This could be like a Pacman vs Morales situation, where Pacman lost in the first fight but came back in the next two fights to dominate Morales. So, let's not be too conclusive here; anything could change as Spence could figure out his mistakes and improve himself in the rematch, if it's going to happen.

If ever they will bring this rematch into the table, if both camps will agree, maybe it will take place.

Who knows if Spence will perform well and clear that excuses and convert it to a success, though seeing the fight the
winning chance might be slim. The level of fighting greatness from Crawford is way high compared with Spence, it
might be concluded if ever we hear an update with any negotiation about possible rematch.

Hehe agreed and in the following months he will be talking to Al Haymon again for another fight vs. another boxer being promoted by PBC, Jermell Charlo. I reckon Haymon and Charlo should cancel negotiations with Canelo and begin a new one for a bigger fight vs. Crawford. There will certainly be more money for everyone included in the deal hehehe.



With Terence Crawford the official king of the welterweight division, his trainer Brian McIntyre talks about what could come next for the Nebraska native. McIntyre says he didn’t quite hear what Crawford was saying to Jermell Charlo after dropping Errol Spence during the live fight, but admits their willingness to move up to junior middleweight to face him.

Source https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/7/31/23814258/terence-crawfords-trainer-expresses-interest-in-facing-jermell-charlo-at-154-boxing-news-2023

Charlo versus Crawford would be a good fight, but it won't be bigger than this once, Spence versus Crawford. To begin with, Charlo isn't undefeated. He doesn't have an amazing resume compared to Spence. He isn't also as powerful as Spence. But he is surely a great opponent against Crawford at 154. Although if this fight happens, I would be expecting Jermell to be a significant underdog and I won't think twice of putting my money on Crawford again.

If only Crawford didn't decide to move up in weight, Spence could actually be the one to challenge Jermell. That would be a closer fight than Jermell fighting against Crawford.

What do you mean Spence as the best American boxer? Do you mean Crawford?

expect excuses will come up but we have seen their fight already. crawford really dominated here. what's next for spence is yet to be seen. but definitely, his camp will choose a sure path for spence. because if he will lose again for his next fight, then, his bankability as a boxer will go down hard.
but going up to light middleweight div means facing jermell charlo who is holding the four belts of this division, and is trained by derrick james, who happens to be spence's coach as well. so seems that re-match would likely happen with crawford, before he will go up to a higher division.

Now I know why Spence has that exhausted aura all over his body during the start of the fight.  It seems meeting the weight limit takes a toll on Spence by dehydrating too much.   But I do not believe that Spence will win if ever they go up in Division since I believe Crawford will also destroy him in that weight category.  I also agree that dehydration should not be an issue since they both agree to fight on that weight division.  All I can say is that it is Spence fault on fighting on the weight division where their boxer is not fit anymore.

It would be nice to see this two elites fighting it out on the higher weight class to see if those who assume that Spence will perform different if they fight on 154 is correct.

Actually, that dehydration issue is not new. Way back when Spence's camp is dodging to make a negotiation with Crawford, they already said that their guy is not fit anymore to fit at 147 that's why they consider putting him instead to fight at 154. Moving forward, there should be no excuses as both camp deal with the negotiation and we now see the result of this long-waited match that takes several years in the making.

We don't know yet what's next for Crawford;

- keep the titles at 147 (which doesn't make sense to me)
- have a rematch with Spence (which is also not makes sense to me)
- moved up at 154 and try to secure a deal right away on a title match as he is eligible for it

Let's see what will happen next.

At 154 Crawford's punches will be devastating and Spence never fought in the 154 we don't know his movement all we've seen here has Spence never fought somebody like Crawford who he can't hit but who can counterpunch

He is the best welterweight no one comes close to him, he's never been hurt in any fight, and in all his fights he is very dominant in every round when it comes to a claim of who is the greatest in the welterweight he has a legit claim of that title he may soon beat Mayweather's record he is only a few fights away and he is only 35, I think he can go on fighting in that form until he reaches 39.

If it is 154 lbs, maybe the punch resistance of Spence is different. Nevertheless, the outcome might be the same and Crawford winning by decision at 154 lbs, so I do agree that a rematch is not going to be as exciting anymore and there are a lot of boxing analyst who says that Spence wouldn't bet Crawford at any of the division, whether welter or super welterweight.

And with this win, and after waiting for years for this fight to happen, Crawford has claim to be the best welterweight. And he could be the top 1 or top 2 pound for pound. Him and Inoue can be in the argument for now, and maybe Tank Davis as 3rd best.

Well, Spence had it coming because he certainly had all the time in the world to face Crawford in the past years but even if their fight happened years early, I still believe that we will witness the very same outcome because Crawford was much more devastating and even scarier during the very height of his prime.

Nothing else to prove because many believed, including me, that the chapter of Crawford and Spence is already over. Crawford proved that he is the better boxer and now there is already a rumor surfacing online that Crawford wants Jermell Charlo next for another undisputed fight.

Indeed, it is. It would be much more exciting and deemed necessary if only their fight ended with a split decision or at least unanimous decision but since it wasn't and we know that it was really a one-sided fight then just like what the other guys have said and I bet people around the world are saying the same thing that a rematch is not something that is needed anymore. Even at 154 pounds, I doubt that it will bring such hype just like the hype that was produced in their first encounter, even half of what they did, I still doubt it.

Well, not only that, but Crawford's entrance was spectacular, also when Eminem came out accompanying him it was something much more brilliant, this is very good for boxing, these things are what the sport needs, the total support, more than 21 thousand souls in Las Vegas waiting for this famous fight.

I don't know if you remember, but when Eminem finished accompanying Crawford, he gave him a gesture on his shoulder as if to say "Do your thing and win" and Crawford turned and with a gesture on his face let him know that "Take it for granted" , these things were very exciting, I had seen the previous fights, in fact I had predicted that Spence was going to fall 3 times, but he was not going to be KOed, it was until the other round where he was technically knocked out, but it is that Crawford really destroyed him, as soon as you see Spence's face you can see that he gave him a great punishment, that was something that could not be believed, while Crawford seemed as if he was jogging in a park as if nothing had happened, the real power that He has Crawford on his right and is deadly, a blow from Crawford with the right hand that will knock out anyone, that is his deadly weapon.

Something that caught my attention is Crawford's defense, he only put his arm diagonally without covering himself much, and with that he had to launch the right hand, Spence really tried that right many times and that's why they left him so bad.

Regarding the rematch, Spence said that yes, it had to happen, I hope that Crawford, with everything he suffered for that fight to take place, won't take long to give it to him, just to show him that boxers always need their rematches without appealing to a clause, which is quite uncomfortable because they should give it without so much problem.

Eminem Walks Terence Crawford To Ring For Undisputed Welterweight Title Fight






Source: https://www.vibe.com/news/sports/eminem-terence-crawford-undisputed-welterweight-title-fight-1234776211/

If this fight is repeated again, it will be like this with all this great presence of the public, it will also be with much more emotion, now I think that Spence will see Crawford as an equal, because Spence had said that he did not want to face him yet because he knew that Crawford was not very well prepared, but what he ignored was that Crawford had been training for a long time, he had been looking for this fight for a long time and was preparing, Spence denied him the possibility, of course now the result makes Spence comb his hair and see that things are not as he believes but as they really are, he should not be disrespecting the effort of one of the greatest.