Terrence Crawford vs Errol Spence - July 29 - page 2.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on August 04, 2023, 09:38:20 AM

This fight will live forever and will be watched by future generations to come than May-Pac and May-McGregor.

True, because it was an entertaining fight. Although May-Pac and May-McGregor both generated a lot of money, any fight involving Mayweather is known to be boring, and it seems like the fans are robbed. However, they didn't learn and still watched Mayweather's fights. Probably, they were hoping that Mayweather would lose, but it didn't happen, as Mayweather is just too good and knows how to dominate his opponents. Even Pacman in their fight looked amateur, LOL.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on August 03, 2023, 09:12:15 AM

^ They already is under pressure on the numbers that Tank and Ryan has put up in their fight and I doubt that even if it is the biggest fight at 147 lbs since the Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, it will still be second best for this year.

But it's a biggest for Spence and Crawford and they should thank themselves for having this great numbers as pay-per-view and those who watch their fight live even if the price is steep.

No need to be pressured by the Tank-Garcia figures as it was boxing and a celebrity fight. Tank and Spence are on the same level of fans although it also means something because Spence is a unified champion while Tank is not even a champion for many years already. But Kingry is just too popular, he has no championship experience yet the casuals flocked and bought his biggest fight to date.

The numbers aren't final yet, it could be 650k or 700k. More like Jake Paul's first fight against a real boxer had higher PPV buys at 800k. Spence is not a trash talker while Bud seems not trying to make Spence mad or he's probably worried that Spence might cancel the fight. Cheesy

But still, it's a big successful fight, it should be able to generate at least $80 million in revenue. Crawford and Spence can take home $20 to $30+ million each. And the legacy of that fight is more worth than the money since they're all rich multi-millionaires anyway. Bud became the first-ever 2-division undisputed champion in this 4-belt era. This fight will live forever and will be watched by future generations to come than May-Pac and May-McGregor.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on August 04, 2023, 07:46:19 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on August 04, 2023, 07:04:30 AM

And perhaps it was really due to the big money in the table for the two of them that they can't resists.

Very interesting as well to note that two of the biggest fight for this year comes from PBC.

The hype they created had really made the fight more profitable. That particular fight was rumored many times before it finally happened, so when it became official, people were happy, and they eagerly booked the fight. The revenue was good, but the fight was supposed to be a close one, so they would make the fans want to see more, like a rematch. Unfortunately for Spence, he looked unprepared during the fight as his game plan didn't work against a faster and probably stronger Crawford.

That's one of the reasons, but even if they didn't hype the fight that much, people would still watch it since it's an undisputed fight, and the winner will make history. It was a success, although it's not the biggest in terms of revenue (gate entrance and PPV), because the fans who watched were satisfied.

Usually, when the favorite to win actually wins the fight, that also makes the majority of the fans happy.

I'm sure Spence's career is not over yet; he can still fight, so let's wait for his next move. If I were to be asked, I would like him to move up and forget his losses to Crawford. A new weight class means new challenges for him, and I think he will be more comfortable in a heavier division.

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Quote from: btc_angela on August 04, 2023, 07:04:30 AM

And perhaps it was really due to the big money in the table for the two of them that they can't resists.

Very interesting as well to note that two of the biggest fight for this year comes from PBC.

The hype they created had really made the fight more profitable. That particular fight was rumored many times before it finally happened, so when it became official, people were happy, and they eagerly booked the fight. The revenue was good, but the fight was supposed to be a close one, so they would make the fans want to see more, like a rematch. Unfortunately for Spence, he looked unprepared during the fight as his game plan didn't work against a faster and probably stronger Crawford.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on August 03, 2023, 03:50:38 PM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 03, 2023, 06:25:25 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on August 02, 2023, 02:01:24 PM

So now, we will wait what will be the official PPV numbers and it has somewhat around 500k-800k or even break the 1 million mark.

The numbers are already out, Errol Spence Jr. Vs Terence Crawford PPV Buys Reach 700k, Bring In $50 Million In Revenue

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The highly anticipated boxing match between Terence Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. was a huge success, generating an estimated 700,000 pay-per-view buys and bringing in more than $50 Million in revenue. This is the highest number of buys for a boxing PPV since Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao in 2015.

You prediction is correct, the PPV buys is lower than the Garcia vs Davis fight but of course it's still a big success.

No doubt it was highly anticipated. Unifying those belts and the career win that Crawford needed to solidify his legacy. Doesn't take much anymore though the decent boxing matches that are worth ppv have gone dramatically so when one pops up it will get more hits than it would have in the past. Worth the price on this one. I will buy round 2 of this fight.

It was really a solid win for Crawford and he had predicted that he will deal Spence his first lost and that's why he really wanted to pursue this. Although the first negotiation broke down. But according to Spence he is the one very instrumental to get this fight going.

And perhaps it was really due to the big money in the table for the two of them that they can't resists.

Very interesting as well to note that two of the biggest fight for this year comes from PBC.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on August 03, 2023, 03:50:38 PM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 03, 2023, 06:25:25 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on August 02, 2023, 02:01:24 PM

So now, we will wait what will be the official PPV numbers and it has somewhat around 500k-800k or even break the 1 million mark.

The numbers are already out, Errol Spence Jr. Vs Terence Crawford PPV Buys Reach 700k, Bring In $50 Million In Revenue

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The highly anticipated boxing match between Terence Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. was a huge success, generating an estimated 700,000 pay-per-view buys and bringing in more than $50 Million in revenue. This is the highest number of buys for a boxing PPV since Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao in 2015.

You prediction is correct, the PPV buys is lower than the Garcia vs Davis fight but of course it's still a big success.

No doubt it was highly anticipated. Unifying those belts and the career win that Crawford needed to solidify his legacy. Doesn't take much anymore though the decent boxing matches that are worth ppv have gone dramatically so when one pops up it will get more hits than it would have in the past. Worth the price on this one. I will buy round 2 of this fight.

I guess everyone is waiting for round 2. But there are also boxing pundits that says that a rematch is not needed as it was overwhelming performance. However, if the fight is 154 lbs in which fans of Spence says that he was weight drain at 147 lbs and Crawford knows it, could be a different outcome.

So for me if there is a rematch, the numbers might not be as close as the first one. Even the GGG vs Canelo rematch was way below in revenues in terms of PPV as compare to the first one, if I'm not mistaken.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 03, 2023, 06:25:25 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on August 02, 2023, 02:01:24 PM

So now, we will wait what will be the official PPV numbers and it has somewhat around 500k-800k or even break the 1 million mark.

The numbers are already out, Errol Spence Jr. Vs Terence Crawford PPV Buys Reach 700k, Bring In $50 Million In Revenue

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The highly anticipated boxing match between Terence Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. was a huge success, generating an estimated 700,000 pay-per-view buys and bringing in more than $50 Million in revenue. This is the highest number of buys for a boxing PPV since Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao in 2015.

You prediction is correct, the PPV buys is lower than the Garcia vs Davis fight but of course it's still a big success.

No doubt it was highly anticipated. Unifying those belts and the career win that Crawford needed to solidify his legacy. Doesn't take much anymore though the decent boxing matches that are worth ppv have gone dramatically so when one pops up it will get more hits than it would have in the past. Worth the price on this one. I will buy round 2 of this fight.

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Quote from: Dave1 on August 03, 2023, 07:54:08 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 03, 2023, 06:25:25 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on August 02, 2023, 02:01:24 PM

So now, we will wait what will be the official PPV numbers and it has somewhat around 500k-800k or even break the 1 million mark.

The numbers are already out, Errol Spence Jr. Vs Terence Crawford PPV Buys Reach 700k, Bring In $50 Million In Revenue

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The highly anticipated boxing match between Terence Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. was a huge success, generating an estimated 700,000 pay-per-view buys and bringing in more than $50 Million in revenue. This is the highest number of buys for a boxing PPV since Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao in 2015.

You prediction is correct, the PPV buys is lower than the Garcia vs Davis fight but of course it's still a big success.

Nice numbers, yeah, it fall below the numbers of Garcia vs Davis, but this is still considered as a success and could be the second biggest fight for this year. As we have said, Crawford is not a PPV crowd drawer, but with Spence as his dance partner, getting into 700k buys is already huge for this two.

And obviously, the live gates and PPV has given them huge paycheck and most likely easy 10-20 million each for this boxers. And we are talking about the rematch, and majority says that it will be the same result. But who knows, at 154 lbs, Spence might be stronger.

Just like what I said in the previous discussions, I'm already expecting an average PPV buys because after all, this fight will be watched by people around the world as it's been waited for several years before it finally happened. But since we are in the modern age now, having over 1 Million PPV buys will be too much too ask, even Canelo Alvarez will have a hard time having that these days because in every fight night, the bout can almost be watched for free without paying for the PPV as there will be some streamers that will offer a free streaming in-exchange for some donation and note, that is just voluntary.
Now if we compare it to the old days where there was no internet, only television and cable, we can sure expect that big fights like these will go over 1 Million PPV buys.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 03, 2023, 09:00:16 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 03, 2023, 06:25:25 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on August 02, 2023, 02:01:24 PM

So now, we will wait what will be the official PPV numbers and it has somewhat around 500k-800k or even break the 1 million mark.

The numbers are already out, Errol Spence Jr. Vs Terence Crawford PPV Buys Reach 700k, Bring In $50 Million In Revenue

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The highly anticipated boxing match between Terence Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. was a huge success, generating an estimated 700,000 pay-per-view buys and bringing in more than $50 Million in revenue. This is the highest number of buys for a boxing PPV since Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao in 2015.

You prediction is correct, the PPV buys is lower than the Garcia vs Davis fight but of course it's still a big success.

Just about it, not about to hit 1 million but still good and a big success as you have said. So it's not a disappointment for others who thought that this is not going to be a blockbuster fight in terms of numbers.

I think what you meant though is that this is the biggest welterweight numbers since the fight of Floyd and Manny.

And it's hard to beat the numbers of Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis, this two has a huge following and all hype before the actual fight.

most of the time, their respective promoters also contribute to the degree of success of the fight. if they know how to sell the fight , they know the tactics how to sell those tickets and their PPVs. but of course, it is the followers of the boxers themselves have the major influence on how they will hit those numbers.
but to be honest, i thought this fight will surpass the PPV buys of Garcia vs. Davis fight, as many fans are also looking forward on this match. remember, in this forum alone, we have so much discussion about this fight long time ago.

Me too, I was in the impression that since it's been waited for many years, it will surpass that last record from the fight between Tank and Ryan.

Though that numbers still profitable for both camps and the promoters, maybe the excitement
from the fans is no longer that hot. Maybe a rematch will bring more money if both camps will
negotiate and sign another deal to attract the fans' and viewers' supports.

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^ They already is under pressure on the numbers that Tank and Ryan has put up in their fight and I doubt that even if it is the biggest fight at 147 lbs since the Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, it will still be second best for this year.

But it's a biggest for Spence and Crawford and they should thank themselves for having this great numbers as pay-per-view and those who watch their fight live even if the price is steep.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 03, 2023, 09:00:16 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 03, 2023, 06:25:25 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on August 02, 2023, 02:01:24 PM

So now, we will wait what will be the official PPV numbers and it has somewhat around 500k-800k or even break the 1 million mark.

The numbers are already out, Errol Spence Jr. Vs Terence Crawford PPV Buys Reach 700k, Bring In $50 Million In Revenue

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The highly anticipated boxing match between Terence Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. was a huge success, generating an estimated 700,000 pay-per-view buys and bringing in more than $50 Million in revenue. This is the highest number of buys for a boxing PPV since Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao in 2015.

You prediction is correct, the PPV buys is lower than the Garcia vs Davis fight but of course it's still a big success.

Just about it, not about to hit 1 million but still good and a big success as you have said. So it's not a disappointment for others who thought that this is not going to be a blockbuster fight in terms of numbers.

I think what you meant though is that this is the biggest welterweight numbers since the fight of Floyd and Manny.

And it's hard to beat the numbers of Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis, this two has a huge following and all hype before the actual fight.

most of the time, their respective promoters also contribute to the degree of success of the fight. if they know how to sell the fight , they know the tactics how to sell those tickets and their PPVs. but of course, it is the followers of the boxers themselves have the major influence on how they will hit those numbers.
but to be honest, i thought this fight will surpass the PPV buys of Garcia vs. Davis fight, as many fans are also looking forward on this match. remember, in this forum alone, we have so much discussion about this fight long time ago.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 03, 2023, 06:25:25 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on August 02, 2023, 02:01:24 PM

So now, we will wait what will be the official PPV numbers and it has somewhat around 500k-800k or even break the 1 million mark.

The numbers are already out, Errol Spence Jr. Vs Terence Crawford PPV Buys Reach 700k, Bring In $50 Million In Revenue

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The highly anticipated boxing match between Terence Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. was a huge success, generating an estimated 700,000 pay-per-view buys and bringing in more than $50 Million in revenue. This is the highest number of buys for a boxing PPV since Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao in 2015.

You prediction is correct, the PPV buys is lower than the Garcia vs Davis fight but of course it's still a big success.

Just about it, not about to hit 1 million but still good and a big success as you have said. So it's not a disappointment for others who thought that this is not going to be a blockbuster fight in terms of numbers.

I think what you meant though is that this is the biggest welterweight numbers since the fight of Floyd and Manny.

And it's hard to beat the numbers of Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis, this two has a huge following and all hype before the actual fight.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 03, 2023, 06:25:25 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on August 02, 2023, 02:01:24 PM

So now, we will wait what will be the official PPV numbers and it has somewhat around 500k-800k or even break the 1 million mark.

The numbers are already out, Errol Spence Jr. Vs Terence Crawford PPV Buys Reach 700k, Bring In $50 Million In Revenue

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The highly anticipated boxing match between Terence Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. was a huge success, generating an estimated 700,000 pay-per-view buys and bringing in more than $50 Million in revenue. This is the highest number of buys for a boxing PPV since Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao in 2015.

You prediction is correct, the PPV buys is lower than the Garcia vs Davis fight but of course it's still a big success.

Nice numbers, yeah, it fall below the numbers of Garcia vs Davis, but this is still considered as a success and could be the second biggest fight for this year. As we have said, Crawford is not a PPV crowd drawer, but with Spence as his dance partner, getting into 700k buys is already huge for this two.

And obviously, the live gates and PPV has given them huge paycheck and most likely easy 10-20 million each for this boxers. And we are talking about the rematch, and majority says that it will be the same result. But who knows, at 154 lbs, Spence might be stronger.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 02, 2023, 02:01:24 PM

So now, we will wait what will be the official PPV numbers and it has somewhat around 500k-800k or even break the 1 million mark.

The numbers are already out, Errol Spence Jr. Vs Terence Crawford PPV Buys Reach 700k, Bring In $50 Million In Revenue

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The highly anticipated boxing match between Terence Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. was a huge success, generating an estimated 700,000 pay-per-view buys and bringing in more than $50 Million in revenue. This is the highest number of buys for a boxing PPV since Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao in 2015.

You prediction is correct, the PPV buys is lower than the Garcia vs Davis fight but of course it's still a big success.

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Quote from: Questat on August 02, 2023, 01:40:26 AM

Quote from: Pamadar on August 01, 2023, 07:25:45 PM

Just let Crawford and his camp to enjoy the win and take that luxurious rest with that huge moneypot
that he's collecting right now.

He deserves the recognition he's receiving because what he has achieved is truly historical. Now, we can firmly believe that Crawford is the better fighter compared to Spence. Even if they decide to have a rematch, it's unlikely that the outcome would change unless Spence has something significant to upset the current champion. A potential trilogy would make the rivalry even more entertaining, as trilogies are always fun to watch in the world of boxing.

Now, regarding the possibility of Canelo vs Spence, it's certainly possible, and such a matchup would generate a lot of money for both teams. However, they would need to agree on a weight class that both fighters are comfortable with. I'm not sure which is harder, going down or going up in weight?

I see that point and it's possible if Spence will upset Crawford on their next possible rematch, and like what you said,
fans will love to follow such kind of rivalries.

Just by the look how Crawford beats Spence, those who still doubting him will wait if Spence will try
to call that rematch, they will wait if what Spence will bring to the table and if ever they will be satisfied
if in case Spence will win and a trilogy will also be activated, more money for both promoters and fighters
possible to take place.

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Numbers are coming in, and it's been reported that they produce more than $21 million in gate sales,

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More than $21,000,000 in ticket sales were generated from the July 29 Showtime Pay-Per-View event from T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, according to a report from the always reliable Sports Business Journal. The show drew an announced crowd of 19,900, which saw Crawford (40-0, 31KOs) become the first male boxer in the four-belt era to claim undisputed championship status in two weight divisions following his ninth-round stoppage of Spence.

https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-spence-event-generated-more-21000000-ticket-sales-t-mobile-arena--176617

But it's only second to the Garcia vs Davis fight, which clock in at $22 million. But still a good numbers as Crawford is not really a top draw. But at least he has a good dancing partner in Spence.

So now, we will wait what will be the official PPV numbers and it has somewhat around 500k-800k or even break the 1 million mark.

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Quote from: btc_angela on August 02, 2023, 08:53:19 AM

^^ Yes, I do agree that either of the Charlo brothers are not going back to 154 lbs and Spence is going up in weight. So obviously one of them is already at 168 lbs fighting Canelo so the other one is going to 160 lbs. Actually they can switch back from and to between middleweight and super middleweight.

Yeah, Perhaps the biggest that Crawford is 154 lbs, that will be enough for him. He will be a smaller 160 pounder. But I think Spence can go as high as 160 lbs, but with the Charlo brothers occupying that, I doubt that he will go there until they go up in weight as high as 175 lbs but that will be too much for either of the Charlos.

Let's see it first if what will be the camp of Spence do in the upcoming weeks because after he fought Crawford and lost, he was given 30 days to think and decide whether he will activate a rematch or not as that was written on their contract before they have agreed to an undisputed fight. Current rumor is that Spence wants a fight at 154 while Crawford seems inclined to it as well but with under one condition, he will be on the A-side as he earned it and by his words, a rematch will not happen if the purse is not 50/50 or 60/40 in his favor.

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Quote from: Questat on August 01, 2023, 09:19:31 AM

Maybe the outcome of Canelo vs Jermell Charlo fight is very important because if Jermell Charlo were to win, I'm sure Crawford would see it as a good opportunity to fight Jermell Charlo by moving up, as a win would make him more popular.

How about Crawford - Canelo both have a claim to be a crowd drawer and a pound-for-pound king, I don't think Canelo can impose his skill and power against Canelo the way Crawford devastated Spence if they cross their path I hope they do, Canelo will have a beating more than what he gets from his fight against Bivol.

Crawford is already 35 not many years left in his boxing career, so his promoters and handlers should think of fighting fighters in the pound-for-pound list that he can fight in a catch weight.

That is a 3 weight, 21 pound difference. I doubt Canelo is capable of going down much further than super middleweight. If Crawford moved up and beat Canelo he would undoubtedly be considered among the greatest fighters ever. The difference is just too much for that fight to be possible any time soon. We could still get an idea of what would happen if Crawford fights Charlo and then we can compare their performance against the same fighter.

A Canelo vs Crawford fight is just too good to be true, don't take it wrong, a fight like that will indeed draw the fans from around the world because these two boxers clashing each other will be a music to the fans ears because since then they wanted a fight like this where it will be an entertaining for sure. A battle of the greatest.

But again, it's too good to be true. Both boxers are just too away from each other. A middleweight fight will be their best choice but I just don't see it coming.

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Quote from: btc_angela on August 02, 2023, 08:53:19 AM

Yeah, Perhaps the biggest that Crawford is 154 lbs, that will be enough for him.

If he moves up in that division, he might be able to fight Tim Tszyu, whom I believe has no chance of winning against a faster and smarter Crawford. This is considering that Crawford's power and quickness remain intact even if he moves up. There's a lot of speculation now, and I believe Crawford has no business in the current division where he has already been declared the King.

Quote from: inthelongrun on August 02, 2023, 08:40:55 AM

With regards to a possible Canelo-Crawford megafight, I already saw interviews before about Bud saying he is not moving up to 168 or 175. The guy is honest, direct to the point and he is smart knowing his limits. Here's Bud's latest clip I saw last week being asked again about fighting Canelo;
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/t8jPI_p4bhE

It's good that he is honest. Although he pushes his limits, being realistic at the same time is necessary. He doesn't want to ruin the success he has worked hard for. Moving up and not being able to handle the punches of a naturally bigger boxer would make him look bad. It's better to take it slowly but surely.

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^^ Yes, I do agree that either of the Charlo brothers are not going back to 154 lbs and Spence is going up in weight. So obviously one of them is already at 168 lbs fighting Canelo so the other one is going to 160 lbs. Actually they can switch back from and to between middleweight and super middleweight.

Yeah, Perhaps the biggest that Crawford is 154 lbs, that will be enough for him. He will be a smaller 160 pounder. But I think Spence can go as high as 160 lbs, but with the Charlo brothers occupying that, I doubt that he will go there until they go up in weight as high as 175 lbs but that will be too much for either of the Charlos.

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