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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 17, 2019, 08:49:09 AM

Quote from: onrise on December 17, 2019, 08:13:04 AM

Yes it will be difficult for NZ to beat OZ in their country and also batsman and bowlers are in form so this would not be an easy ride for NZ to content OZ in modest score . Unless some player stands out it would be OZ for me in next match too .

Advantage is with Australia, but I have reasons to believe that New Zealand would give them a good fight. The New Zealand bowlers seems to be in good form. Even with one of the bowlers (Lockie Ferguson) injured, they managed to restrict Australia to around 400 in a batting-friendly track. Neil Wagner has been in terrific form so far this year. If the spinners can also chip in, then NZ will be having a realistic chance of upsetting Australia at Melbourne.

Right now Bowling is good but biggest problem is batting line up as they are not giving partnerships which need on cruical time this is hurting New Zealand Tayler and Williamson doing some resistance but fail to give good partnership Latham and Rawal is also currently in not good form so they have to improve some batting if they want to stand against Australia.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 17, 2019, 07:53:56 AM

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LOL... I watched Peter Siddle sending down missiles during the abandoned match between Victoria and Western Australia at Melbourne. He was constantly targeting Shaun Marsh and Marcus Stoinis with short pitched deliveries and a couple of times Stoinis got hurt when the ball hit his rib cage. I am wondering whether this is the reason why he got recalled all of a sudden?

Peter Siddle was the leading wicket taker for Victoria this season and he has the experience playing in this pitch and may be that is the reason he is recalled in this test and he might play in the team considering his form and the way in which he was terrifying and troubling the batsman but there are other bowlers in the team including James Pattinson and Michael Neser who is yet to make his Test debut in the selected team and who will get the opportunity remains to be seen.

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Quote from: akhjob on December 17, 2019, 10:13:28 AM

So the test match between NZ and AUS is going to be after Christmas on 26 Dec and the first test between ENG and SA is also starting on that day. I really am not happy with how the first test match ended but I hope NZ comeback hard and avoid further defeats.

I am not sure about the state of the South African team whether they can challenge the English side, i am yet to look at the selected team to make a decision on which team to wage a bet but when it comes to the Australia New Zealand match i am going with Australia to win the match as they are in good form and unless the New Zealand bowlers dominate the Australian batsman i am not expecting any other result.

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So the test match between NZ and AUS is going to be after Christmas on 26 Dec and the first test between ENG and SA is also starting on that day. I really am not happy with how the first test match ended but I hope NZ comeback hard and avoid further defeats.

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Quote from: onrise on December 17, 2019, 08:13:04 AM

Yes it will be difficult for NZ to beat OZ in their country and also batsman and bowlers are in form so this would not be an easy ride for NZ to content OZ in modest score . Unless some player stands out it would be OZ for me in next match too .

Advantage is with Australia, but I have reasons to believe that New Zealand would give them a good fight. The New Zealand bowlers seems to be in good form. Even with one of the bowlers (Lockie Ferguson) injured, they managed to restrict Australia to around 400 in a batting-friendly track. Neil Wagner has been in terrific form so far this year. If the spinners can also chip in, then NZ will be having a realistic chance of upsetting Australia at Melbourne.

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Quote from: Indymoney on December 16, 2019, 03:24:37 PM

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Quote from: onrise on December 16, 2019, 08:06:14 AM

OZ 296 runs win over NZ is really a big win and considering the way they have beaten them is really an achievement as they have shown all round performances in all department and definitely the favourite for 2nd test match too .

They should have enforced the follow on, as it was possible for them to win by one innings. The Australian captain decided against it, because one of the bowlers (Hazlewood) was injured. But even with that handicap, they managed to bowl out the Kiwis for less than 200 in both their innings. Anyway... now the boxing day test match is going to be an exciting one. New Zealand for sure will be looking for revenge.

But its Mission Impossible for New Zealand even they are looking for revenge Australia is very strong at home now they have some good batting and very good bowling which is giving them complete package tage they can sweep this series very easily New Zealand batting is also good but at home in oversease matches usually they are average which is hurting them.

Yes it will be difficult for NZ to beat OZ in their country and also batsman and bowlers are in form so this would not be an easy ride for NZ to content OZ in modest score . Unless some player stands out it would be OZ for me in next match too .

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 17, 2019, 04:11:39 AM

They were competitive in patches when top order was batting, That's how they got Warner and Smith wickets despite their good start and Lockie Ferguson injury didn't help Kiwi's cause, other than that Australia outplayed them completely in every department.

Australia recalled Peter Siddle in place of the injured Josh Hazlewood and New Zealand replaced the injured Lockie Ferguson with Kyle Jamieson who might be making his debut if he is playing in the boxing day Test and historically Australia dominate the boxing day Test in the past and i am expecting them to dominate the match and like the last match New Zealand might find success in some sessions.

LOL... I watched Peter Siddle sending down missiles during the abandoned match between Victoria and Western Australia at Melbourne. He was constantly targeting Shaun Marsh and Marcus Stoinis with short pitched deliveries and a couple of times Stoinis got hurt when the ball hit his rib cage. I am wondering whether this is the reason why he got recalled all of a sudden?

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 17, 2019, 04:11:39 AM

They were competitive in patches when top order was batting, That's how they got Warner and Smith wickets despite their good start and Lockie Ferguson injury didn't help Kiwi's cause, other than that Australia outplayed them completely in every department.

Australia recalled Peter Siddle in place of the injured Josh Hazlewood and New Zealand replaced the injured Lockie Ferguson with Kyle Jamieson who might be making his debut if he is playing in the boxing day Test and historically Australia dominate the boxing day Test in the past and i am expecting them to dominate the match and like the last match New Zealand might find success in some sessions.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 17, 2019, 02:52:10 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on December 16, 2019, 10:06:15 PM

The first test match was more competitive than what the scorecard suggests. Some of the New Zealand bowlers (especially Tim Southee and Neil Wagner) managed to get Australian batsmen in trouble.

How exactly was it competitive? Australia destroyed NZ and the result is clear to everyone. As expected, Starc(The Man) continues to dominate the Australian bowling attack while Lyon supported him nicely from behind. NZ was outclassed plain and simple.

They were competitive in patches when top order was batting, That's how they got Warner and Smith wickets despite their good start and Lockie Ferguson injury didn't help Kiwi's cause, other than that Australia outplayed them completely in every department.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 16, 2019, 09:02:22 AM

Anyway... now the boxing day test match is going to be an exciting one. New Zealand for sure will be looking for revenge.

Revenge? They are trying to avoid a whitewash at this point in my opinion. None of their batsmen were able to face the fiery pace of the OZ bowlers. The only way they can win the upcoming match is if they get Warner, Marnus and Smith early.

Quote from: Sithara007 on December 16, 2019, 10:06:15 PM

The first test match was more competitive than what the scorecard suggests. Some of the New Zealand bowlers (especially Tim Southee and Neil Wagner) managed to get Australian batsmen in trouble.

How exactly was it competitive? Australia destroyed NZ and the result is clear to everyone. As expected, Starc(The Man) continues to dominate the Australian bowling attack while Lyon supported him nicely from behind. NZ was outclassed plain and simple.

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Quote from: Indymoney on December 16, 2019, 03:24:37 PM

But its Mission Impossible for New Zealand even they are looking for revenge Australia is very strong at home now they have some good batting and very good bowling which is giving them complete package tage they can sweep this series very easily New Zealand batting is also good but at home in oversease matches usually they are average which is hurting them.

The first test match was more competitive than what the scorecard suggests. Some of the New Zealand bowlers (especially Tim Southee and Neil Wagner) managed to get Australian batsmen in trouble. However, they would have been in a much better position, had they prevented Australian lower order batsmen such as Mitchell Starc and Pat Cummins from scoring valuable runs. Bowling was OK... but their batsmen fared poorly against the raw pace of Starc and Cummins (perhaps with the exception of Ross Taylor).

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 16, 2019, 09:02:22 AM

Quote from: onrise on December 16, 2019, 08:06:14 AM

OZ 296 runs win over NZ is really a big win and considering the way they have beaten them is really an achievement as they have shown all round performances in all department and definitely the favourite for 2nd test match too .

They should have enforced the follow on, as it was possible for them to win by one innings. The Australian captain decided against it, because one of the bowlers (Hazlewood) was injured. But even with that handicap, they managed to bowl out the Kiwis for less than 200 in both their innings. Anyway... now the boxing day test match is going to be an exciting one. New Zealand for sure will be looking for revenge.

But its Mission Impossible for New Zealand even they are looking for revenge Australia is very strong at home now they have some good batting and very good bowling which is giving them complete package tage they can sweep this series very easily New Zealand batting is also good but at home in oversease matches usually they are average which is hurting them.

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Quote from: onrise on December 16, 2019, 08:06:14 AM

OZ 296 runs win over NZ is really a big win and considering the way they have beaten them is really an achievement as they have shown all round performances in all department and definitely the favourite for 2nd test match too .

They should have enforced the follow on, as it was possible for them to win by one innings. The Australian captain decided against it, because one of the bowlers (Hazlewood) was injured. But even with that handicap, they managed to bowl out the Kiwis for less than 200 in both their innings. Anyway... now the boxing day test match is going to be an exciting one. New Zealand for sure will be looking for revenge.

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Quote from: vella85 on December 15, 2019, 04:47:09 PM

Australia could of won this match by an innings and runs which I believe would of been a record as they won their previous two test matches by an innings and runs but they decided to bat again. Strac and Lyon were the ones to help get Australia this dominate win and now we move onto the big Boxing Day test match which hopefully the ground staff can get the pitch ready in time as it has been declared to dangerous to play on.

OZ 296 runs win over NZ is really a big win and considering the way they have beaten them is really an achievement as they have shown all round performances in all department and definitely the favourite for 2nd test match too .

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Quote from: Indymoney on December 15, 2019, 05:53:14 PM

Abid Ali is first player in cricket history who have hundred on his test Debut and ODI Debut so its good for him and Pakistan but still a lot of work to do for next test as its not easy to beat Sri Lanka they have to do more effort.

That is a rare feat to become the first player in cricket history to score centuries in ODI and Test debuts and hope the pressure will not over power his ability to play freely, these things will create a lot of pressure in a young player and it can destroy many careers and if he is able to over come those then he will be one of the best players Pakistan ever had.

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Quote from: vella85 on December 15, 2019, 04:47:09 PM

Australia could of won this match by an innings and runs which I believe would of been a record as they won their previous two test matches by an innings and runs but they decided to bat again. Strac and Lyon were the ones to help get Australia this dominate win and now we move onto the big Boxing Day test match which hopefully the ground staff can get the pitch ready in time as it has been declared to dangerous to play on.

I agree that the pitch at the Melbourne Cricket Ground was not up to the mark. Sometimes, human errors happen while creating cricket pitches. But to be fair to the curator (Matt Page), he was asked to liven up the pitch by the home team as well as by the management of the Melbourne Cricket Club and Cricket Australia. In the end, the bounce increase to a level that would be considered as dangerous for the players.

Check this, and you'll understand how much pace was there in the pitch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7OPDxT7mU8

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on December 15, 2019, 10:27:04 AM

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Heh, well, Pakistani team didn't but the rain made records, along with Abid Ali. He just scored a century on his test debut, after scoring a century on his ODI debut a few months back. I really like his batting style and coolness that he carries.

Not sure why the hell he was dropped in the world cup. Roll Eyes

Pakistan always like to go for experienced players when there are major tournaments and that is what happened when they dropped Abid Ali during the world cup selection process, i did not know that he made centuries in his debut in ODI and now in Test match and it must be a rare double for a player as i have not heard anyone doing so in the past.

Australia won the match easily and Starc and Lyon was the pick of the bowlers as they shared 8 wickets between them in the second innings and with this match we have an idea how the series will unfold.

Abid Ali is first player in cricket history who have hundred on his test Debut and ODI Debut so its good for him and Pakistan but still a lot of work to do for next test as its not easy to beat Sri Lanka they have to do more effort.
Aussies was very quick to done with New New Zealand as they collapsed very badly no one for recovery in presence of Starc Cummines and Lyon their Winning streak at home is now three now waiting for fourth and fifth.

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Quote from: vella85 on December 15, 2019, 04:47:09 PM

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Match drawn at the end,it was expected by the way.

Next match in this series will be on 19 Dec,hopefully the weather will not interrupt the play for that match at least.Rain made the audience disappointed.

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Australia could of won this match by an innings and runs which I believe would of been a record as they won their previous two test matches by an innings and runs but they decided to bat again. Strac and Lyon were the ones to help get Australia this dominate win and now we move onto the big Boxing Day test match which hopefully the ground staff can get the pitch ready in time as it has been declared to dangerous to play on.

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Quote from: Raja_MBZ on December 15, 2019, 09:08:30 AM

Heh, well, Pakistani team didn't but the rain made records, along with Abid Ali. He just scored a century on his test debut, after scoring a century on his ODI debut a few months back. I really like his batting style and coolness that he carries.

Not sure why the hell he was dropped in the world cup. Roll Eyes

Pakistan always like to go for experienced players when there are major tournaments and that is what happened when they dropped Abid Ali during the world cup selection process, i did not know that he made centuries in his debut in ODI and now in Test match and it must be a rare double for a player as i have not heard anyone doing so in the past.

Australia won the match easily and Starc and Lyon was the pick of the bowlers as they shared 8 wickets between them in the second innings and with this match we have an idea how the series will unfold.

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