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Quote from: UmerIdrees on December 14, 2019, 11:27:38 AM

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Well, if you see the Pakistani team they are batting for the consecutive 4 days in the test match against srilanka and are still not tired. They are surely super humans. Tongue

They will bat for the fifth day too. I think it will be some sort of a record in the history of test cricket.

Heh, well, Pakistani team didn't but the rain made records, along with Abid Ali. He just scored a century on his test debut, after scoring a century on his ODI debut a few months back. I really like his batting style and coolness that he carries.

Not sure why the hell he was dropped in the world cup. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: vella85 on December 15, 2019, 03:40:23 AM

New Zealand are in big trouble losing two quick wickets in the last 6 overs with the night session to come. The good news for New Zealand is that there won't be a new ball for the night session however they are 4 wickets down for 64 runs so they will need to fight in the night session if they want to survive in this test match or it could be all over tonight if Strac can do what he did in the first innings.

OZ lost it and lost it completely by huge margin of 296 runs.

Like I said Lyon played an important role and took 4 wickets in this 23 overs that is what the importance of having a full time spinner even in a pitch which assist more to the pacers.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on December 14, 2019, 11:27:38 AM

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Well, if you see the Pakistani team they are batting for the consecutive 4 days in the test match against srilanka and are still not tired. They are surely super humans. Tongue

They will bat for the fifth day too. I think it will be some sort of a record in the history of test cricket.

If you are talking about the recent match between Pakistan and Sri Lanka where two days were washed out, then it is a great troll as they were sitting inside the dressing room the entire day and i am talking about a fast bowler bowling at optimal pace in a spell, none of the fast bowlers will do more than a 6 to 8 over spell in a match and then they will take an hours break to come back again and that is how it is and if you are telling that fast bowlers will bowl 20 over spells at top speed then i would like to see those bowlers because i have not seen a super human till now Tongue

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New Zealand are in big trouble losing two quick wickets in the last 6 overs with the night session to come. The good news for New Zealand is that there won't be a new ball for the night session however they are 4 wickets down for 64 runs so they will need to fight in the night session if they want to survive in this test match or it could be all over tonight if Strac can do what he did in the first innings.

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Quote from: mersal on December 15, 2019, 02:04:04 AM

Its LUNCH on day 4.Will they can pass through TEA time?

This year is not good for New Zealand be it cricket or Rugby. I am afraid that they are going to end this year with loss, having said that we know what happened in England during Ashes when Ben stokes became a hero so everything is possible if they can survive the starc-cummins spell under the lights.

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Well,it seems OZ is going for another low scoring total because they already lost two wickets in 11 overs and one important player is Williamson from this their winning chance is just about 10%.

Its LUNCH on day 4.Will they can pass through TEA time?

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 15, 2019, 12:16:31 AM

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Finally day 5 for Pak vs SL has some playing time.Want to know is there any audiecne for this match? Cheesy

Well.. there is good news at last... Dhananjaya de Silva managed to hit a century, after batting continuously for 5 days (this may be a new world record, although I am not sure about it). Apart from that, there is hardly anything to cheer for both the sides. Naseem Shah managed to pick two wickets (although after conceding 92 runs), and this will boost his morale after the thrashing he received in Australia.

I was waiting for that when dhananjaya de silva going to get a century finally he got today after that SriLanka team declared to 308 runs but Pakistan did not got good start because of they already lose the a wicket now the score is 9/1 in 7 over already we know that match going to end with draw.

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Quote from: mersal on December 14, 2019, 11:57:31 PM

Finally day 5 for Pak vs SL has some playing time.Want to know is there any audiecne for this match? Cheesy

Well.. there is good news at last... Dhananjaya de Silva managed to hit a century, after batting continuously for 5 days (this may be a new world record, although I am not sure about it). Apart from that, there is hardly anything to cheer for both the sides. Naseem Shah managed to pick two wickets (although after conceding 92 runs), and this will boost his morale after the thrashing he received in Australia.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 14, 2019, 10:50:39 PM

The Australians are short of one bowler and in case any of the New Zealand batsmen manage a big score, then it is going to be very tough for them. It looks to me that Lyon will bowl most of the overs from one end, with the captain asking Starc and Cummins to bowl from the other end. But this may not be as effective as both Starc and Cummins bowling in tandem.

All New Zealand has to do is to make sure that they don't lose any wickets. If they could manage 1-2 sessions without major damage, then the Australian bowlers will get tired and will be replaced with part-time bowlers such as Marnus Labuschagne and Steve Smith. The Kiwis can use this opportunity to step up their scoring rate. The immediate target should be to survive the initial 10-12 overs from Starc/Cummins.

Day 4 and 5 will not be easy to bat as day 1 so batsmen struggle more than you imagine so its not possible for any OZ player to manage a high score and also lyon will be effective though since it is day four so we may see lot of spin and also wickets from him.

Finally day 5 for Pak vs SL has some playing time.Want to know is there any audiecne for this match? Cheesy

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 14, 2019, 11:26:28 AM

And I don't think that the Kiwis will go in to attack mode with such a huge target on board. They will be defensive from the first ball onward.

They have no other options other than attacking the balls if Australia make some quick runs before the lunch and retire their innings because it will be hard for OZ players to defend more than 1000 balls to get drawn as result.

Now this test match is wide open and just rain can save Kiwis from defeat no other option available for them too much time and last few sessions for test is very helpful for bowlers so they have very few chances against Starc, Cummins and Lyon.

The Australians are short of one bowler and in case any of the New Zealand batsmen manage a big score, then it is going to be very tough for them. It looks to me that Lyon will bowl most of the overs from one end, with the captain asking Starc and Cummins to bowl from the other end. But this may not be as effective as both Starc and Cummins bowling in tandem.

All New Zealand has to do is to make sure that they don't lose any wickets. If they could manage 1-2 sessions without major damage, then the Australian bowlers will get tired and will be replaced with part-time bowlers such as Marnus Labuschagne and Steve Smith. The Kiwis can use this opportunity to step up their scoring rate. The immediate target should be to survive the initial 10-12 overs from Starc/Cummins.

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Quote from: mersal on December 14, 2019, 01:56:29 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 14, 2019, 11:26:28 AM

And I don't think that the Kiwis will go in to attack mode with such a huge target on board. They will be defensive from the first ball onward.

They have no other options other than attacking the balls if Australia make some quick runs before the lunch and retire their innings because it will be hard for OZ players to defend more than 1000 balls to get drawn as result.

Now this test match is wide open and just rain can save Kiwis from defeat no other option available for them too much time and last few sessions for test is very helpful for bowlers so they have very few chances against Starc, Cummins and Lyon.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 14, 2019, 11:26:28 AM

And I don't think that the Kiwis will go in to attack mode with such a huge target on board. They will be defensive from the first ball onward.

They have no other options other than attacking the balls if Australia make some quick runs before the lunch and retire their innings because it will be hard for OZ players to defend more than 1000 balls to get drawn as result.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 14, 2019, 12:01:05 PM

Two days remaining in this match, and therefore we are certain about a result.

There is plenty of time for Australia to bowl out New Zealand the second time and they way in which the New Zealand players were struggling to cope up with the pace and only Taylor was able to have some resistance and if they need to draw the match then New Zealand should play an incredible game of cricket we have never seen in the past to even draw the match.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on December 14, 2019, 11:47:56 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 14, 2019, 09:33:57 AM

Not just Lyon, but Marnus Labuschagne is also there as the spin option. During the first innings of New Zealand, he had taken the crucial wicket of Mitchell Santner. But that said, with both Mitchell Starc and Pat Cummins bowling in peak form, I don't think that the spinners may get much opportunities to bowl their spells.

I think Lyon will play a major role in picking up the wickets in the final two days, if you are talking about part time bowlers then Australia does have some good part time bowlers like Marnus Labuschagne, Steven Smith as both can bowl decent leg spins and Travis Head is a multi talent who can bowl off spin as well as a good wicket keeper. Australia will win the match with the way they bowled in the first innings and how long New Zealand can prolong the match is the interesting part.

Hmm... I missed Travis Head in my post. He is a wicket keeper with 42 first class wickets to his name!!! So for spin options, they have Lyon, Labuschagne, Smith and Head. Starc/Cummins need to share the pace bowling work load. There are no medium pacers among the batsmen and therefore they should depend on spin in case these two bowlers need some rest. Two days remaining in this match, and therefore we are certain about a result.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 14, 2019, 09:33:57 AM

Not just Lyon, but Marnus Labuschagne is also there as the spin option. During the first innings of New Zealand, he had taken the crucial wicket of Mitchell Santner. But that said, with both Mitchell Starc and Pat Cummins bowling in peak form, I don't think that the spinners may get much opportunities to bowl their spells.

I think Lyon will play a major role in picking up the wickets in the final two days, if you are talking about part time bowlers then Australia does have some good part time bowlers like Marnus Labuschagne, Steven Smith as both can bowl decent leg spins and Travis Head is a multi talent who can bowl off spin as well as a good wicket keeper. Australia will win the match with the way they bowled in the first innings and how long New Zealand can prolong the match is the interesting part.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on December 14, 2019, 08:48:00 AM

The players and the bowlers at the international level need rest specially when they belong to one of the best cricketing team. Strange Huh

You are suggesting that they are tired after playing just 2 days of cricket ? Undecided

Australia is playing a Test match with three bowlers as Hazlewood is injured, Starc, Cummins and Lyon, what do you expect they rotate these bowlers and enforce the follow on and let them bowl like a machine so that they will be out of the game for the next few months because of injury Roll Eyes

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If you have any idea about how many overs a fast bowler bowls in a spell you will not have this thought of international players being super humans Tongue

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Well, if you see the Pakistani team they are batting for the consecutive 4 days in the test match against srilanka and are still not tired. They are surely super humans. Tongue

They will bat for the fifth day too. I think it will be some sort of a record in the history of test cricket.

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Quote from: mersal on December 14, 2019, 11:19:14 AM

OZ will struggle more in their second innings due to changes in the pitch its likely the match will end before day four and we will have a result for sure if there is no interruption rains.

Australia is already having a lead of 400 plus and therefore the pressure on the bowlers will be reduced. The absence of Hazlewood will be neutralized by part time bowlers such as Marnus Labuschagne and Steve Smith. And I don't think that the Kiwis will go in to attack mode with such a huge target on board. They will be defensive from the first ball onward.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 14, 2019, 09:33:57 AM

Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on December 14, 2019, 09:12:29 AM

The point here is that New Zealand will not chase anything beyond 300 runs as the pitch will not be that easy to bat on, you can see how the Australian players struggled in the second innings as the New Zealand bowlers were peppering them with short balls and it was not that easy to bat on and in that case how can we expect them to chase a total like that and they have a good spinner in Lyon to contain one end.

Not just Lyon, but Marnus Labuschagne is also there as the spin option. During the first innings of New Zealand, he had taken the crucial wicket of Mitchell Santner. But that said, with both Mitchell Starc and Pat Cummins bowling in peak form, I don't think that the spinners may get much opportunities to bowl their spells. If everything goes as per the plan, then Starc will finish with another 5 wicket haul and New Zealand will lose the match by a considerable margin.

Forcing pacers to bowl more overs will affect their health,many bowlers agreed that most hardest part of test match is for pacers so they should have to rotate their spells with spinners as well to keep them effective.

OZ will struggle more in their second innings due to changes in the pitch its likely the match will end before day four and we will have a result for sure if there is no interruption rains.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on December 14, 2019, 09:12:29 AM

The point here is that New Zealand will not chase anything beyond 300 runs as the pitch will not be that easy to bat on, you can see how the Australian players struggled in the second innings as the New Zealand bowlers were peppering them with short balls and it was not that easy to bat on and in that case how can we expect them to chase a total like that and they have a good spinner in Lyon to contain one end.

Not just Lyon, but Marnus Labuschagne is also there as the spin option. During the first innings of New Zealand, he had taken the crucial wicket of Mitchell Santner. But that said, with both Mitchell Starc and Pat Cummins bowling in peak form, I don't think that the spinners may get much opportunities to bowl their spells. If everything goes as per the plan, then Starc will finish with another 5 wicket haul and New Zealand will lose the match by a considerable margin.

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Quote from: onrise on December 14, 2019, 08:14:24 AM

What a game we are witnessing where OZ in first innings made 416 and in second innings are now 167 for 6 . But NZ are now trail by 417 and still 4 wickets of OZ is left and this means very high chance the match is already in OZ favour .

The only thing New Zealand can do is to defend for a draw and it is impossible to defend for a long period of time and you really do not need this much runs to win the match.

Quote from: JohnBitCo on December 14, 2019, 08:29:50 AM

but this 2nd innings will shake the confidence of the Australian batsmen in next matches.

Let us see if New Zealand will collapse in the second innings too then you can understand that it is not an easy pitch bat.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 14, 2019, 08:31:32 AM

But his decision today went against the norm. Anyway, there is no hope for New Zealand. I really doubt they will be able to score anything more than 200.

Not sure why he delayed the declaration when they are in a good position. They should have put New Zealand to bat with 10 overs left in the day.

Quote from: UmerIdrees on December 14, 2019, 08:48:00 AM

The players and the bowlers at the international level need rest specially when they belong to one of the best cricketing team. Strange Huh

You are suggesting that they are tired after playing just 2 days of cricket ? Undecided

Australia is playing a Test match with three bowlers as Hazlewood is injured, Starc, Cummins and Lyon, what do you expect they rotate these bowlers and enforce the follow on and let them bowl like a machine so that they will be out of the game for the next few months because of injury Roll Eyes

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If you have any idea about how many overs a fast bowler bowls in a spell you will not have this thought of international players being super humans Tongue

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