^^^ LOL... the West Indians are claiming that playing without the crowd can help them, as the England players will be demoralized without the support from their fans. I don't know how much of it is true. Even without the crowd, England would be at an advantage as a result of familiar ground conditions and weather. And I am afraid that West Indies have performed poorly in tests for sometime now.
Have you heard about the barmy army and if they are in the stadium they will troll any player and for the opposition it is pressure and if the West Indies players claim that they are in a good position without the crowd they have a point as they will be humiliated with every miss field other than that England are a much better team in Test and ODI and West Indies is competitive only in T20. 
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England is in much better shape now, and in all probability they'll extract revenge against the West Indians. West Indies have toured England dozens of times. But the 2000 series is still fresh in my mind. Back then, West Indies had players such as Courtney Walsh, Sir Curtly Ambrose, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Brian Lara and Chris Gayle. Perhaps that squad was the strongest ever sent to England by West Indies. But despite that, they lost the series to England 1-3.
During that time West Indies was struggling with the batting line up and in that series if i remember correctly shivnarine chanderpaul was not in the team in all the matches and while watching those matches i thought he would have held up one end if he was in the team. Chris Gayle was not an impact player during that time and he was not at all consistent and during that period i held Wavell Hinds a better player than Chris Gayle and it was the weakest batting line up and that continued for a long time. England is in much better shape now, and in all probability they'll extract revenge against the West Indians. West Indies have toured England dozens of times. But the 2000 series is still fresh in my mind. Back then, West Indies had players such as Courtney Walsh, Sir Curtly Ambrose, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Brian Lara and Chris Gayle. Perhaps that squad was the strongest ever sent to England by West Indies. But despite that, they lost the series to England 1-3.
^^^ LOL... the West Indians are claiming that playing without the crowd can help them, as the England players will be demoralized without the support from their fans. I don't know how much of it is true. Even without the crowd, England would be at an advantage as a result of familiar ground conditions and weather. And I am afraid that West Indies have performed poorly in tests for sometime now.
https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricket/story/west-indies-tour-of-england-no-fans-help-us-phil-simmons-1688876-2020-06-14
This statement sounds logical for the ashes series, where spectators and players sledge each others all the time but for this series Meh!https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricket/story/west-indies-tour-of-england-no-fans-help-us-phil-simmons-1688876-2020-06-14
Its home ground for England so they have edge due to obvious reason. Last time Windies humiliated English team in their backyard now its England's turn.
England is in much better shape now, and in all probability they'll extract revenge against the West Indians. West Indies have toured England dozens of times. But the 2000 series is still fresh in my mind. Back then, West Indies had players such as Courtney Walsh, Sir Curtly Ambrose, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Brian Lara and Chris Gayle. Perhaps that squad was the strongest ever sent to England by West Indies. But despite that, they lost the series to England 1-3.
@vishnu.reang I believe that West Indies are showing signs of over confidence and arrogance with their statements, and this is not a good sign for them as their sole priority should be on winning the upcoming series, rather than indulging in unwanted banter with the England player's. @JSRAW yea it’s obvious that England will start as the favourites due to the home ground advantage, but it’s pertinent to note that both sides player’s will be rusty too, as they haven’t played competitive cricket in quiet a while now, hence anything can happen in this series.
Sources:
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/29292914/jason-holder-says-world-come-together-west-indies-arrive-historic-tour
This statement sounds logical for the ashes series, where spectators and players sledge each others all the time but for this series Meh!
Its home ground for England so they have edge due to obvious reason. Last time Windies humiliated English team in their backyard now its England's turn.
Its home ground for England so they have edge due to obvious reason. Last time Windies humiliated English team in their backyard now its England's turn.
England is in much better shape now, and in all probability they'll extract revenge against the West Indians. West Indies have toured England dozens of times. But the 2000 series is still fresh in my mind. Back then, West Indies had players such as Courtney Walsh, Sir Curtly Ambrose, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Brian Lara and Chris Gayle. Perhaps that squad was the strongest ever sent to England by West Indies. But despite that, they lost the series to England 1-3.
^^^ LOL... the West Indians are claiming that playing without the crowd can help them, as the England players will be demoralized without the support from their fans. I don't know how much of it is true. Even without the crowd, England would be at an advantage as a result of familiar ground conditions and weather. And I am afraid that West Indies have performed poorly in tests for sometime now.
https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricket/story/west-indies-tour-of-england-no-fans-help-us-phil-simmons-1688876-2020-06-14
This statement sounds logical for the ashes series, where spectators and players sledge each others all the time but for this series Meh!https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricket/story/west-indies-tour-of-england-no-fans-help-us-phil-simmons-1688876-2020-06-14
Its home ground for England so they have edge due to obvious reason. Last time Windies humiliated English team in their backyard now its England's turn.
^^^ LOL... the West Indians are claiming that playing without the crowd can help them, as the England players will be demoralized without the support from their fans. I don't know how much of it is true. Even without the crowd, England would be at an advantage as a result of familiar ground conditions and weather. And I am afraid that West Indies have performed poorly in tests for sometime now.
https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricket/story/west-indies-tour-of-england-no-fans-help-us-phil-simmons-1688876-2020-06-14
https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricket/story/west-indies-tour-of-england-no-fans-help-us-phil-simmons-1688876-2020-06-14
Someone please correct me if I am wrong. As far as I know, no international cricket matches are scheduled for this month. The next scheduled match is on 8th July, when the first test match between England and West Indies will be played. Or have I missed anything? After a break of more than three months, we'll be able to watch live action in less than four weeks.
Yeah, first game Eng vs Windies, Pakistan playing few tests and T-20 against England after this. then we have Zim, windies, Afghanistan, India tour of Australia. More games should be lined up for other teams but no-one declared their schedule.~snip~
Edit : One more month fellas....
ECB announces schedule of three closed-door Tests against WI
"Proposed Tour Schedule
First Test: July 8-12, Ageas Bowl Southampton
Second Test: July 16-20, Old Trafford Manchester
Third Test: July 24-28, Old Trafford Manchester"
Edit : One more month fellas....
ECB announces schedule of three closed-door Tests against WI
"Proposed Tour Schedule
First Test: July 8-12, Ageas Bowl Southampton
Second Test: July 16-20, Old Trafford Manchester
Third Test: July 24-28, Old Trafford Manchester"
Someone please correct me if I am wrong. As far as I know, no international cricket matches are scheduled for this month. The next scheduled match is on 8th July, when the first test match between England and West Indies will be played. Or have I missed anything? After a break of more than three months, we'll be able to watch live action in less than four weeks.
The latest news from BCCI is that the Indian tour of Sri Lanka is called off (originally scheduled for June-July). This series was not very important for the BCCI, but the SLCB will be furious about it. They are already facing financial issues and the cancellation of the tour is going to hit them hard. They were hoping that the BCCI would just postpone the tour, and not cancel it altogether.
What is happening in not intended as the current situation makes it? Money grossing IPL is still in a dilemma no one knows it will happen! But, if the boards take it as an issue then it is their issue.
I do not blame the board but the condition in the subcontinent is pretty bad and every day it is becoming worst for everyone living there.
I am sure they will do a favor for the Srilankan cricket team later on when things are quite normal.
The latest news from BCCI is that the Indian tour of Sri Lanka is called off (originally scheduled for June-July). This series was not very important for the BCCI, but the SLCB will be furious about it. They are already facing financial issues and the cancellation of the tour is going to hit them hard. They were hoping that the BCCI would just postpone the tour, and not cancel it altogether.
What is happening in not intended as the current situation makes it? Money grossing IPL is still in a dilemma no one knows it will happen! But, if the boards take it as an issue then it is their issue.
I do not blame the board but the condition in the subcontinent is pretty bad and every day it is becoming worst for everyone living there.
I am sure they will do a favor for the Srilankan cricket team later on when things are quite normal.
The latest news from BCCI is that the Indian tour of Sri Lanka is called off (originally scheduled for June-July). This series was not very important for the BCCI, but the SLCB will be furious about it. They are already facing financial issues and the cancellation of the tour is going to hit them hard. They were hoping that the BCCI would just postpone the tour, and not cancel it altogether.
They play enough cricket with each others so that's fine and i guess SLC board also understand that. BCCI and SLC board's relations are like that - whenever they gets bored, they play dead series-
The latest news from BCCI is that the Indian tour of Sri Lanka is called off (originally scheduled for June-July). This series was not very important for the BCCI, but the SLCB will be furious about it. They are already facing financial issues and the cancellation of the tour is going to hit them hard. They were hoping that the BCCI would just postpone the tour, and not cancel it altogether.
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For the record you messed up with the quotes and quoting your own reply please check and correct it hehehe
Yeah bit messy arrangement as players might end up using saliva unintentionally due to old habits.
Yesterday night had a huge party and the hangover is still there and yet to have food For the record you messed up with the quotes and quoting your own reply please check and correct it hehehe
Yeah bit messy arrangement as players might end up using saliva unintentionally due to old habits.
.There will be many controversies in this rule because of the 5 run penalty which is really absurd. If everyone is tested there is no point in implementing this rule and on top of it the 5 runs is just too much and it will cause tensions in the middle because of the reasons you mentioned. It was a normal thing that was going on for decades and now all of a sudden you ban a move will end up messy.
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What ever it may be the situation everything is a bit messy, players will do some sort or the other to shine the ball and rewarding 5 runs under the assumption that they used saliva, to be frank it is a thin line.Lets see what is going to happen and how many conservatory we are going to see regarding this. I am sure this will end up messy.
For the record you messed up with the quotes and quoting your own reply please check and correct it hehehe
Yeah bit messy arrangement as players might end up using saliva unintentionally due to old habits.
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Normally, Polishing the ball job is fixed for Mid off,Mid on and covers fielders. Cameras already keeps eye on them but if this "Ball tampering rule" gets approval from the ICC then we can expect strict surveillance, like 10 cameras following the ball religiously from every angle including umpires, sounds logical to me.
Normally, Polishing the ball job is fixed for Mid off,Mid on and covers fielders. Cameras already keeps eye on them but if this "Ball tampering rule" gets approval from the ICC then we can expect strict surveillance, like 10 cameras following the ball religiously from every angle including umpires, sounds logical to me.
What ever it may be the situation everything is a bit messy, players will do some sort or the other to shine the ball and rewarding 5 runs under the assumption that they used saliva, to be frank it is a thin line.
Lets see what is going to happen and how many conservatory we are going to see regarding this. I am sure this will end up messy.
This is a temporary rule, or a permanent one?
As far as i can tell its temporary due to pandemic.ICC already gave verdict on Saliva ban or any kind of additional substance for "Shine the ball". They went one step ahead by saying that repeated use of saliva will lead to 5 runs penalty to the fielding side.
The camera will be focusing on seeing someone polishing the ball using saliva . May be the third umpire will be monitoring all those activities to award 5 runs if they ever use saliva, hope they do not change the ball every time they think there is saliva in the ball .Normally, Polishing the ball job is fixed for Mid off,Mid on and covers fielders. Cameras already keeps eye on them but if this "Ball tampering rule" gets approval from the ICC then we can expect strict surveillance, like 10 cameras following the ball religiously from every angle including umpires, sounds logical to me.
Meanwhile... Tendulkar suggests use of new ball every 45-50 overs[/b][/url]
We need to forget about reverse swing if they change the ball by 45 overs and with no way to shine the ball it is going to be difficult for the bowlers. Batsman might average 60 plus during these period.This is a temporary rule, or a permanent one?
As far as i can tell its temporary due to pandemic. legendary
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ICC already gave verdict on Saliva ban or any kind of additional substance for "Shine the ball". They went one step ahead by saying that repeated use of saliva will lead to 5 runs penalty to the fielding side.
Meanwhile...Tendulkar suggests use of new ball every 45-50 overs
Meanwhile...Tendulkar suggests use of new ball every 45-50 overs
This is a temporary rule, or a permanent one? I hope that the saliva ban is a permanent one and the practice won't return after the COVID 19 pandemic gets contained in major cricket playing nations. Anyway, I am not sure whether this is practical. They need to monitor all the 11 fielders, and one person (the third umpire) may not be able to do that alone.
The International Cricket Council (ICC) on Tuesday announced a temporary ban on the use of saliva on the ball before it resumes next month after a long shutdown.
A controversial rule change during the coronavirus epidemic could change the way cricket is played, as it will benefit the batsmen more. The bowlers had the advantage of swinging the ball with saliva.
Cricketers use saliva or sweat to shine on one side of a leather ball for long periods of time, helping fast bowlers to move in the air as well as create more swings in the air.
ICC already gave verdict on Saliva ban or any kind of additional substance for "Shine the ball". They went one step ahead by saying that repeated use of saliva will lead to 5 runs penalty to the fielding side.
Meanwhile...Tendulkar suggests use of new ball every 45-50 overs
Meanwhile...Tendulkar suggests use of new ball every 45-50 overs
This is a temporary rule, or a permanent one? I hope that the saliva ban is a permanent one and the practice won't return after the COVID 19 pandemic gets contained in major cricket playing nations. Anyway, I am not sure whether this is practical. They need to monitor all the 11 fielders, and one person (the third umpire) may not be able to do that alone.
ICC already gave verdict on Saliva ban or any kind of additional substance for "Shine the ball". They went one step ahead by saying that repeated use of saliva will lead to 5 runs penalty to the fielding side.
The camera will be focusing on seeing someone polishing the ball using saliva . May be the third umpire will be monitoring all those activities to award 5 runs if they ever use saliva, hope they do not change the ball every time they think there is saliva in the ball .Meanwhile... Tendulkar suggests use of new ball every 45-50 overs[/b][/url]
We need to forget about reverse swing if they change the ball by 45 overs and with no way to shine the ball it is going to be difficult for the bowlers. Batsman might average 60 plus during these period.
ICC already gave verdict on Saliva ban or any kind of additional substance for "Shine the ball". They went one step ahead by saying that repeated use of saliva will lead to 5 runs penalty to the fielding side.
Meanwhile...Tendulkar suggests use of new ball every 45-50 overs
Meanwhile...Tendulkar suggests use of new ball every 45-50 overs
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