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What is wrong with ICC? They act so gullible sometimes. Stokes is a great player, but calling him the greatest of all time is pathetic and an insult to all the legends. Whoever is handling their twitter account is seriously dumb for posting such bullshit.
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One? I guess both of his innings are controversial. Lips sealed
I missed watching the last innings so I do not have much to say about it however the first one (World cup final), I will say it was not about him or his innings. It was about bad umpiring and extremely Lucky England.

- What could be a perfect catch ended up with an over boundary: You can not blame the fielder, he gave his best but it was too hard to control.
- Boundary after hitting the bat and awarded 6 runs where it was suppose to be given 5 runs: Not a single players, officials were aware about this error. Umpires should have known it but they were shit at it.

In both incidents, Stokes had nothing to do. He was giving his THE BEST for his country and rest happened because it was destined to be happened.
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Luck + Poor Umpiring + Fumbles from opposition here and there  Lips sealed
I almost forgot about the umpiring. These days umpires are making too many mistakes. ICC really needs to do something about it.
I doubt they will do anything about this since these idiots don't bother listening to fan criticism majority of the time. The pressure is building though and they might have to do something soon.

I believe that Strac needs to come into the Australian team for the fourth test match. Lets be honest James Pattinson hasn't really done much with the ball and to say that they want to give the younger bowlers a go is false as James Pattinson is 29 years old and is the same age as Strac so there must be something more to it for leaving Strac out of the three test matches so far but this next test he needs to play as he could be the man to help build Australia's confidence as right now it is shot after that loss.
Mitchell Starc is only 29? Damn. I actually thought that he was way older than that(Certainly looks like it). Anyway, I do agree with you since I still remember the manner in which he troubled the English batsmen in the World Cup(That amazing yorker to Stokes).

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In sports, luck plays a big role and I think this year we are seeing luck is favoring too much for England and it's Stokes always playing monster innings. So, if luck combined with Stokes miraculous innings continue then may be we will see England is going to regain the Ashes or the job is too hard.

I am still of the opinion that Australia is going to win the Ashes. Apart from Stokes, none of the English batsmen are in form. And I hope Australia would select Mitchell Starc over James Pattinson, and this will prevent the English lower order adding crucial runs, as happened with the first three matches of the series. Also, they should think about replacing Nathan Lyon as the primary spinner. He was quite ineffective during the second and the third matches and conceded a lot of runs against the lower order batsmen.
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I believe that Strac needs to come into the Australian team for the fourth test match. Lets be honest James Pattinson hasn't really done much with the ball and to say that they want to give the younger bowlers a go is false as James Pattinson is 29 years old and is the same age as Strac so there must be something more to it for leaving Strac out of the three test matches so far but this next test he needs to play as he could be the man to help build Australia's confidence as right now it is shot after that loss.

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Now Stokes could be remembered for very long time in cricket history for his two best innings even one is controversial but still he achieved his target for his team and country one of best fighters in recent time

One? I guess both of his innings are controversial. Lips sealed
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I know. It's the same crazy level like not to have bowlers but bowling machines :-P

He also had a past where on his bowling four sixes were hit and Engalnd lost the cup.
I will remember him as a Batsman not Bowler. These two innings made him legend.
Now Stokes could be remembered for very long time in cricket history for his two best innings even one is controversial but still he achieved his target for his team and country one of best fighters in recent time
About umpiring its really poor even using technology and now many old legend cricketers also talking about this but I am sure ICC is not going to do any thing as its their best weapon.
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I know. It's the same crazy level like not to have bowlers but bowling machines :-P

He also had a past where on his bowling four sixes were hit and Engalnd lost the cup.
I will remember him as a Batsman not Bowler. These two innings made him legend.
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The last thing I read was to give the youngsters a chance to prove themselves. It was hard to digest but if that is true then seems like it worked however bowler like Starc is very effective to wrap up the tail of an inning.
 

^ Not sure if it's about giving youngsters a chance. Starc and Siddle almost belong to the Same batch, and Hazlewood also used to play under Micheal Clark's captaincy, so he's not young gun anymore. James Pattinson played less cricket, but he also debut in test cricket around 2011-2012.


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About umpiring: I think it's time for an experimental call.

How about getting rid of human umpires and fully replace them with technology LOL. I know it sounds odd/crazy/unbelievable/shocking but if human umpire keeps giving bad decisions and ruin matches after matches then what's the point to have one!

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That Ben Stokes batting performance was something special, wasn’t it. He was amazing in the World acup too, what a player. Two tests left in the Ashes now & it really is up for grabs.

No doubt one of the best all rounders at this point if to be considered Ben strokes name shoudl deifnately has to appear. World cup innings was something out of imagination considering the pressure was totally on him as he could only help England win the first ever world cup from their. He also had a past where on his bowling four sixes were hit and Engalnd lost the cup.
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True, but I still failed to understand why he was kept out from the Playing XI from the start. Tried to look into details but couldn't any satisfactory answer.
The last thing I read was to give the youngsters a chance to prove themselves. It was hard to digest but if that is true then seems like it worked however bowler like Starc is very effective to wrap up the tail of an inning.

About umpiring: I think it's time for an experimental call.

How about getting rid of human umpires and fully replace them with technology LOL. I know it sounds odd/crazy/unbelievable/shocking but if human umpire keeps giving bad decisions and ruin matches after matches then what's the point to have one!
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Yeah, I also thunk that chances for Starc is very low. A bowler like Starc may never imagined that he will have difficult time even when he is in good form however the positive note here is that Australian bowling unit is at it's best with some very promising top class bowlers.

True, but I still failed to understand why he was kept out from the Playing XI from the start. Tried to look into details but couldn't find any satisfactory answer.

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I almost forgot about the umpiring. These days umpires are making too many mistakes. ICC really needs to do something about it.

ICC elite umpiring panel turning out to be a joke these days, I understand that there is always a chance of Human error in Umpiring but what Joel Wilson did in the last moments, ( LBW) was a sitter! one doesn't need to be elite umpire to figure that out. Call it pressure, bias, or error. But it was a shitty decision indeed.
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Yeah, I also thunk that chances for Starc is very low. A bowler like Starc may never imagined that he will have difficult time even when he is in good form however the positive note here is that Australian bowling unit is at it's best with some very promising top class bowlers.

Luck + Poor Umpiring + Fumbles from opposition here and there  Lips sealed
I almost forgot about the umpiring. These days umpires are making too many mistakes. ICC really needs to do something about it.
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One question is getting around in my head - Will we see Starc in any of the matches in this Ashes?

Its a biggie Cheesy Australian bowlers didn't perform poorly in the last game per se. They only failed to get 10th wicket which cost the match, so I think Starc likely to sit out for next game too.

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In sports, luck plays a big role and I think this year we are seeing luck is favoring too much for England and it's Stokes always playing monster innings. So, if luck combined with Stokes miraculous innings continue then may be we will see England is going to regain the Ashes or the job is too hard.

Luck + Poor Umpiring + Fumbles from opposition here and there  Lips sealed


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I think the tough thing for England is that to regain the Ashes they have to win it outright. We are at 1-1 right now with 1 draw. Two Tests to go, England will have to win both or win 1 & draw the other. If ENG & AUS were to win 1 each of the remaining 2 then AUS retain the urn.
In sports, luck plays a big role and I think this year we are seeing luck is favoring too much for England and it's Stokes always playing monster innings. So, if luck combined with Stokes miraculous innings continue then may be we will see England is going to regain the Ashes or the job is too hard.

Stokes is a marvelous players but it was luck that made them win this time too. The 10th wicket was able to hold the game for 17 balls without being out while Ben Stokes made the necessary runs. Overall English team seems in poorer form than the AUS team. It would be difficult for the English team to win this series from here.
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I think the tough thing for England is that to regain the Ashes they have to win it outright. We are at 1-1 right now with 1 draw. Two Tests to go, England will have to win both or win 1 & draw the other. If ENG & AUS were to win 1 each of the remaining 2 then AUS retain the urn.
In sports, luck plays a big role and I think this year we are seeing luck is favoring too much for England and it's Stokes always playing monster innings. So, if luck combined with Stokes miraculous innings continue then may be we will see England is going to regain the Ashes or the job is too hard.
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That Ben Stokes batting performance was something special, wasn’t it. He was amazing in the World acup too, what a player. Two tests left in the Ashes now & it really is up for grabs.
Cricket (in fact all sports) is all about momentum and mindset. This win is a huge boost for English team and if they can capitalize this boost then we may see England will win this Ashes. There are still plenty of time left for the next Test and I hope both team will prepare to give their best.

One question is getting around in my head - Will we see Starc in any of the matches in this Ashes?

I think the tough thing for England is that to regain the Ashes they have to win it outright. We are at 1-1 right now with 1 draw. Two Tests to go, England will have to win both or win 1 & draw the other. If ENG & AUS were to win 1 each of the remaining 2 then AUS retain the urn.
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That Ben Stokes batting performance was something special, wasn’t it. He was amazing in the World acup too, what a player. Two tests left in the Ashes now & it really is up for grabs.
Cricket (in fact all sports) is all about momentum and mindset. This win is a huge boost for English team and if they can capitalize this boost then we may see England will win this Ashes. There are still plenty of time left for the next Test and I hope both team will prepare to give their best.

One question is getting around in my head - Will we see Starc in any of the matches in this Ashes?
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That Ben Stokes batting performance was something special, wasn’t it. He was amazing in the World acup too, what a player. Two tests left in the Ashes now & it really is up for grabs.
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I lost around 30% of my bet all thanks to Sri Lanka and their pathetic batting performance. I still can't understand why Karunaratne came down the order. Anyway, if someone actually followed your tip(Including draw with good odds), they could have made bank.
I assume you cashed out at some point? Sorry to here the lose percentage bud.

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I personally had a ton of fun playing around with this bet. England winning was a true shocker indeed, but Oz will probably come back strongly in the next match.
This Test match was in Australia's favor all the time. After losing their grip (England) in the first innings everyone in the world thought they are going to lose. Whatever the hope left that washed away when they lost their 9th wicket in the 2nd innings but that innings from Stokes was not in anyone's calculation. I thought all the time that I picked a losing slip but eventually I got a winning one and I am glad for that.

Since it was a 2 fold so choosing win or daw was a safe bet I thought.
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