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Quote from: Passion_ltc on August 17, 2015, 10:48:50 AM

Quote from: jwinterm on August 16, 2015, 07:26:17 PM

Quote from: riceberry on August 16, 2015, 06:50:00 PM

There is also this game currently being made, which will run on the NXT platform.
I think that would count as another DAPP.
http://voxelnauts.com/

The word "NXT" doesn't appear even once on that page. How is it running on NXT platform exactly?

For me it's an application utilizing some Nxt functionalities. It's not a decentralized application as the definition allows it. (Running on several nodes, unstoppable, can-be-trustless..)

Yes, you are right Passion_ltc, voxelnaults is not p2p application, I already have mention the issue a few posts up.

Nevertheless, it is good to see what kind of projects that are build over/and/or use 2.0 blockchain functionnality, especially of the span of voxelnaults. I have suggest to jwinterm to add another category where normal apps that use 2.0 blockchain functionnality may be list. This will avoid any confusion with true decentralized p2p apps (dapps).

Edit: @jwinterm, for a label, I would add the category "Applications using 2.0 blockchain functionnality". I also think 1.0 non-decentralized blockchain application are not of interest in this topic (e.g. exchange, gambling site, etc...).

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Quote from: jwinterm on August 16, 2015, 07:26:17 PM

Quote from: riceberry on August 16, 2015, 06:50:00 PM

There is also this game currently being made, which will run on the NXT platform.
I think that would count as another DAPP.
http://voxelnauts.com/

The word "NXT" doesn't appear even once on that page. How is it running on NXT platform exactly?

For me it's an application utilizing some Nxt functionalities. It's not a decentralized application as the definition allows it. (Running on several nodes, unstoppable, can-be-trustless..)

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=== NODE IS OK! ==

Thank you!

jwinterm

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Thanks for ideas and input Sebastien256, SBOSS, Irontiga, and Brangdon.

Also, thanks for message Irontiga Wink

I actually have one wikipedia article to my name already, so this would be #2 if I try to set it up there:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Cecil_Jaffe

I'll try and update some more this evening or tomorrow...I want to try to figure out how to incorporate Ether's Gas concept versus just paying tx fees for other coins/platforms, but I need to read a bit more about it myself first.

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"Block target time" is pretty meaningless. Nxt may target 1 minute, but it doesn't achieve it. Why not show the measured average block time instead? For Nxt this is about 1.8 minutes, or 104 seconds per block. For 10 confirmations you can expect to wait 18 minutes on average.

(Block 493582 was just before midnight on the 9th August, and block 499047 was just before midnight on the 16th, so 5866 blocks that week or 781 blocks a day over that period. I think that's pretty typical.)

(The reason the block-time is longer than was hoped is known. It's a coding issue that the devs apparently don't want to fix for now, because of transparent forging or whatever. If ever they do fix it, update the table then.)

(Sometimes the Nxt block time is vastly longer. I don't know how you'd capture that variance in the chart, but it's may be a concern if you are trying to base a business on Nxt.)

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wooooow Very nice @jwinterm Kiss

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Maybe a category for public developer?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12161462
NEM's core developer is Makoto Takemiya, a computational neuroscientist. I think Bitshares, CounterParty and Ethereum are public too. The rest are private / anonymous.

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Should make an article on wikipedia...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Your_first_article

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Quote from: riceberry on August 16, 2015, 06:50:00 PM

There is also this game currently being made, which will run on the NXT platform.
I think that would count as another DAPP.
http://voxelnauts.com/

This is not a dapps. It is a normal app that will use the Nxt blockchain. The voxelnauts game is not p2p.

However, since voxelnault is probably the biggest "third party" project using Nxt blockchain to date, I think it might be nice to add a section for project that will uses the blockchain in question. This would be to differentiate between decentralized apps and normal apps.

If possible, maybe listing the various project with a dot like list, it would be more easy to read.
I would also add "(p2p)" rigth after the "decentralized apps" label so that it clear that decentralized apps are p2p.

jwinterm

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Updated again. Table is getting big, gonna need to find another way to generate image soon o_O

Lots of question marks now. Any help getting them filled in much appreciated

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Quote from: Irontiga on August 16, 2015, 07:28:21 PM

Hmm, great, the table looks great.

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Quote from: jwinterm on August 16, 2015, 07:26:17 PM

Quote from: riceberry on August 16, 2015, 06:50:00 PM

There is also this game currently being made, which will run on the NXT platform.
I think that would count as another DAPP.
http://voxelnauts.com/

The word "NXT" doesn't appear even once on that page. How is it running on NXT platform exactly?

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Voxelnauts is a sandbox MMO that will use Nxt as an "economy engine" for its universe.

Here are some other links:

http://cointelegraph.com/news/114443/voxelnauts-a-minecraft-inspired-game-with-nxt-backed-property-rights-and-drm
https://nxtforum.org/news-and-announcements/voxelnauts-mmo-economy-to-be-powered-by-nxt/
http://upstart.bizjournals.com/companies/rebel-brands/2015/06/08/a-new-breed-of-video-games-will-let-users-spend.html

And regarding the 'failed' kickstarter campaign: http://forums.voxelnauts.com/index.php?threads/thank-you-backers-but-our-funding-is-in-another-castle.103/

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Hmm, great, the table looks great.

Burst has got encrypted messaging. Post ur address and i'll send you one ;P

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Quote from: riceberry on August 16, 2015, 06:50:00 PM

There is also this game currently being made, which will run on the NXT platform.
I think that would count as another DAPP.
http://voxelnauts.com/

The word "NXT" doesn't appear even once on that page. How is it running on NXT platform exactly?

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Cross-chain transactions on Bitcoin-likes is trickier, but mostly solved: https://github.com/rnicoll/cate/

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Atomic_cross-chain_trading goes into the theory. Right now there's issues with transaction malleability risks; BIP 66 is a huge step in the right direction, but we need to go back to a lot of what was in BIP 62 for a full solution. Still, thought worth mentioning.

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There is also this game currently being made, which will run on the NXT platform.
I think that would count as another DAPP.
http://voxelnauts.com/

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I think that "Full offline transaction signing support" label short as "Offline transaction signing" is an important security feature that any crypto should be able to do. I think that bitcoin offer this, but the new 2.0 platform might not support it yet or it might be a very complicated thing to do for the user without having the knownledge of a dev or equivalent.

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The purpose of this security feature is to allow users to sign transactions
without ever entering their passphrase on a workstation connected to the
internet, thus avoiding the risk of having their passphrase stolen by locally
installed malware such as key loggers or copy/paste loggers, or malicious
plugins.

Nxt currently offer that security feature by following a simple procedure. I'm wondering which other 2.0 platform actually support full offline transaction signing.

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Quote from: jwinterm on August 16, 2015, 02:43:17 PM

OK, updated rockethead and rwfreshmore. I'd love to get some more examples of actual decentralized applications that are running, in wallet or especially that are accessible by website?

Well to give you one more exciting example. Qora has a built in social network, with posting, liking, sharing, custom blogs and everything decentralized on blockchain. Although the html pages for that are currently hardcoded (only the website for showing the results, all posts and data is on blockchain!) this relies completly on the namestorage that is accessible and modifiable through any third party application (or decentralized website). So the social network could have been done by any user and not only by the dev team, this just shows how powerful this is. All of this is automatically accessible through wallet so there is no need to download another third party application, it is all built in, easy to use and can be extended by anyone.

You can browse the social network here to have a quick look: http://qora.co.in:9090/index/main.html

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You can also add DeBuNe (Decentralized Business Network) as a Nxt dApps build on top of Nxt:
http://debune.org/

This is also a project under devellopement.

Please, I suggest you sort the apps alphabetically in the list.

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OK, updated rockethead and rwfreshmore. I'd love to get some more examples of actual decentralized applications that are running, in wallet or especially that are accessible by website?

Also, I need to look into NEM a bit more. What market pegged assets are the using and what is the mechanism for the peg? I'm also needing to read more about this stuff:

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Asset backed by another crypto asset - Yes
mutable quantity assets - yes
Time to live assets (with expiration) - yes

and maybe add some rows for them.

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