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legendary
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August 18, 2015, 09:42:57 AM
#94
Why don't you delete all the fields and just put one field that says [turing complete]. X's next to all those coins and a big green tick next to Ethereum.

Ethereums programming language allows you to implement all those things in that list for far less cost in time and money.

Your coins are deprecated.

Didn't you hear that Counterparty recreated ETH on their blockchain?
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/counterparty-recreates-ethereum-bitcoin/

So, I'm pretty sure that's not true, but if you have some supporting info, maybe I'd consider it...
sr. member
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August 18, 2015, 09:39:58 AM
#93
Why don't you delete all the fields and just put one field that says [turing complete]. X's next to all those coins and a big green tick next to Ethereum.

Ethereums programming language allows you to implement all those things in that list for far less cost in time and money.

Your coins are deprecated.
legendary
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August 18, 2015, 09:35:07 AM
#92
Sebastien256, good idea. I'll try to add that this evening.

Buratino...maybe. I'll try and play with the colors some more tonight.

stoat, I added a disclaimer at the bottom of OP saying which coins I own. I have Ethereum probably the least filled out because I know the least about it, but I do own some, and am not trying to discredit it in anyway. If you actually know anything about it, please share, otherwise feel free to keep bumping the thread Wink
sr. member
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August 18, 2015, 06:07:48 AM
#91
"Please add another irrelevant biased field to your pathetic FUD table"
legendary
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August 18, 2015, 06:00:55 AM
#90
@TopicStarter:
Please add FMA (First Mover Advantage) label or color for each feature in your nice table. Thanks!
sr. member
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August 18, 2015, 05:58:58 AM
#89
What is burst even...oh wait that was made redundant by Ethereum too.
hero member
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August 18, 2015, 05:56:54 AM
#88
Your shitty NXT coin was a failure.  Ethereum has made your coin and your efforts at FUD utterly redundant.

Delete your silly biased charts and quit software development permanently.

Wow man, ETH is good..but it's actually just a heavily funded something, which is no better than Burst...or i suppose nxt etc. if you're into the PoS thing.

How can any coin survive today if it consumes that much power from mining? I think any gpu/cpu mining thing is doomed. PoS and HDD mining are the future....no doubt about it.
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August 18, 2015, 05:37:43 AM
#87
Your shitty NXT coin was a failure.  Ethereum has made your coin and your efforts at FUD utterly redundant.

Delete your silly biased charts and quit software development permanently.
hero member
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August 18, 2015, 05:32:35 AM
#86
It's transparent what OP is trying to do with his biased silly chart.  Trying to FUD down ethereum, the blockchain which makes those other shitcoins look like a pile of shit.

Sorry ethereum stole your thunder, don't act so butthurt.

Instead of posting non constructive comment. Pease try to post relevant data so that jwinterm can update the chart (concerning ETH)!
hero member
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August 18, 2015, 05:31:24 AM
#85
That is great work jwinterm!

There are couple of centralized "apps or platforms" using the Nxt blockchain (which write on it, i.e. they are not read-only apps). Maybe put the "Centralized apps utilizing blockchain" at the end of the chart and with another color instead of a green label. Indeed, those are not core features of the blockhain. I would also do the same concerning the decentralized apps since these are done third party.

I made some digging and here a few important one:

Drachmaeconnect
http://www.drachmaeconnect.com/
It use the unique Monetary System core feature of Nxt.

Secure Asset Exchange
http://www.secureae.com/
It allows to invest in Nxt asset with bitcoin in a very very simple manner.

Lyth, the Nxt MMO
http://lythmmo.com/
It plan to use the Nxt platform for it economy.

Nxtty
http://nxtty.com/
It use the nxttycoin of the NXT AE as well as account creation and p2p encryption of Nxt.

Freebieservers.
http://freebieservers.com/
In particular, it use the blockchain to manage account and some transactions on the Nxt network.

If I find something else. I will let you know. Keep up the good work!


Edit:
This one is another decentralized apps runing on top of Nxt:
Helix
Quote
http://finhive.com/fh_helix.html
"Helix itself is written as an decentralized app, means it can run signed sourcecode or even code fraqments directly from the NXT blockchain during runtime."
sr. member
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August 18, 2015, 05:25:04 AM
#84
It's transparent what OP is trying to do with his biased silly chart.  Trying to FUD down ethereum, the blockchain which makes those other shitcoins look like a pile of shit.

Sorry ethereum stole your thunder, don't act so butthurt.
legendary
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August 18, 2015, 03:13:46 AM
#83
Updated a bit, not too much, but converted table over to HTML, so it should be easier to customize and maybe switch to wiki format. Also, linked in OP to actual webpage where links are clickable ( http://myrcraft.com/2p0platformtable.html ).

Still got lots of stuff to fill in, and need to work on my color scheme a bit too I think  Undecided
legendary
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August 17, 2015, 07:28:22 PM
#82
Few corrections with regard to counterparty:
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Thanks for the info. I really appreciate the links. I'll update the chart later this evening probably. Does counterparty currently have any operational market Pierre assets atm, or is it just hypothetical for now?
member
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August 17, 2015, 06:49:25 PM
#81
Few corrections with regard to counterparty:

Counterparty absolutely does have a DEX Marketplace (actually to my knowledge, it was the first p2p smart property marketplace)
Counterparty does have voting (in fact the bitcoin foundation 2014 elections were for a while based off CounterParty) see here: https://blockscan.com/vote/A8911401948086144000 http://blog.bitcoinfoundation.org/voting-on-the-blockchain-version-1-0/
And counterparty does have market pegged assets http://counterparty.io/docs/counterparty_features/#currency-peg
hero member
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August 17, 2015, 05:12:19 PM
#80
it has unique feature which is Avatars, user can assign an image to his account.

I proposed an additional category. Many 2.0 platform has unique features, such as this one. The feature that are unique to each blockchain could be put in a list with a category name "Additional unique core features" or something like that. Doing so would take less space in the chart.

For example, Nxt also has the core feature Monetary system, which I believe is unique to Nxt.
http://nxt.org/about/monetary-system/

Yes, that would help even more. Even if someone is full-time into cryptos there is so much going on it is hard to follow everything so a complete comparison table would be kickass.

If you want to go into details about each team, fine, I just wanted to explain why anonymity should not be taken as a negative point. Actually, of the currently active Nxt developers I am the only one that is anonymous, see AUTHORS.txt for the full list: https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/src/369546f91ba32142562c18d224369ea64a3f0720/AUTHORS.txt?at=master

And if we start comparing developers' credentials, I did get my PhD from one of the top universities in my field (which is not computer science though), more than 15 years ago.

Let's not forget Satoshi Nakamoto is still anon, not much negative effect on Bitcoin, right? I prefer anon devs over known ones, later ones are too easy targets and that is not good at cryptospace. Just wait until cryptos eventualy become the real deal (mass adoption), I can already see most known developers being kidnaped or blackmailed on a weekly basis.
sr. member
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August 17, 2015, 05:08:29 PM
#79
If you want to go into details about each team, fine, I just wanted to explain why anonymity should not be taken as a negative point. Actually, of the currently active Nxt developers I am the only one that is anonymous, see AUTHORS.txt for the full list: https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/src/369546f91ba32142562c18d224369ea64a3f0720/AUTHORS.txt?at=master

And if we start comparing developers' credentials, I did get my PhD from one of the top universities in my field (which is not computer science though), more than 15 years ago.
hero member
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August 17, 2015, 04:55:59 PM
#78
it has unique feature which is Avatars, user can assign an image to his account.

I proposed an additional category. Many 2.0 platform has unique features, such as this one. The feature that are unique to each blockchain could be put in a list with a category name "Additional unique core features" or something like that. Doing so would take less space in the chart.

For example, Nxt also has the core feature Monetary System, which I believe is unique to Nxt.
http://nxt.org/about/monetary-system/
hero member
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August 17, 2015, 04:51:33 PM
#77
Crypti (XCR) transaction cost is 0.1% and it has unique feature which is Avatars, user can assign an image to his account.

BTW, this is very useful thread. I've never found enough time to check all those coins myself so big thanks!
legendary
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August 17, 2015, 04:19:46 PM
#76
Maybe a category for public developer?
In the current political and legal environment...


I agree with much of what you said, but if a public developer/founder is a possibly influential and objective aspect of a project, then why not include a row about the founder and current development team?
sr. member
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August 17, 2015, 03:27:14 PM
#75
Maybe a category for public developer?
In the current political and legal environment, being public puts both the developer, and the project, at risk.

A financially independent, anonymous developer, can afford to do what he believes is right. There is less risk that he may be put under duress, have his kids or wife kidnapped, be forced to do something against his will by a totalitarian government (and put under a gag order about it), or receive a friendly visit from the local mobsters. Or be subject to a targeted access operation by a three-letter agency. Being open source (and in the case of Nxt, even GPL), the project will survive and someone else will take over, even if the anonymous developer decides to leave at some point. We are talking about established cryptocurrency projects here, not assets where indeed an anonymous asset issuer can decide to disappear with the shareholders' funds. Being public or anonymous does not make it more or less likely that a developer would leave the project, Nxt has seen a few public developers leave, and then new ones join (and even though anonymous, I am still around).

A public developer, funded by VC investments, must ultimately do what the VC's tell him. Being very profit oriented, some VCs will just run a company to the ground for the short term profit, and they couldn't care less about the cryptocurrency movement goals of decentralization, financial independence, being in control of your own money and investments, not having to trust third parties, etc. A public developer may need to do what is politically correct, rather than what is morally correct, or risk jeopardizing his future career.

Back on topic, I think we should limit this to an objective comparison of the technical characteristics of the 2.0 platforms, existing or being currently worked on.
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