Topic: The effect the mixer ban has had on the forum. - page 11. (Read 4437 times)

Don't forget Bitcoin Stack Exchange. Absolute gold mine that. A few days ago I asked a question about default private key types and I got an answer from Pieter Wuille the next day.

Beside this place there is also r/bitcoin (becoming a bit spammy though) and Stacker News, although I guess these are not so oriented to "Expert Questions". And then there is the bitcoin-dev mailing list itself, which is.

https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=63.0

I actually thought to register for a second then I saw this thread above. Look at this beauty^


You actually lose your activity points when you stay inactive and you must buy an annual subscription for $100  (or $4/day wtf?) not to lose your activity points which you can do here in BTT forever for free. You can leave your account inactive for XX years here and you will find it perfectly fine when you return. (unless it gets hacked of course)

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Ask experts? ($99/yearly sub)They are selling their knowledge for money... You can get all the information you need here for free. Some bitcoin devs are still reading this forum and even if you can't reach any devs, there are other people as informed as them will answer your questions for free just to help bitcoin adoption.

THEY DO IT FOR MONEY.

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Trading classes? Are you fkn serious? How is this any different than those scam telegram channels where they shill you scam projects while they are dumping their positions? Imagine theymos giving TA lessons for money in this forum...

If you think  this is the most ridiculous one, you haven't seen nothing yet.

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Am I paying 0.1 eth to delete, modify etc my own posts?? I can modify my posts for free here for fucks sake. ~$222 to edit posts. Nice one.

There is even more don't just leave yet.

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I saved the best one for the last.

This is where it all goes full retard.

They make you king but only till some one else pays more than you. And the price is 10.5 ETH for now, that's ~$22.4k. It doesn't take much smarts to see how can they scam you here. If the admin doesn't like your attitude, one of his sockpuppets can pay 11 eth and take away your title.

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Conclusion:

This forum is trying to milk their users. If you go there and think you can milk them, think twice. Did theymos ever force any of you to pay for the forum expenses? Ever? This forum (shitcointalk) sells the basic forum features in the name of paying their expenses. (The expenses probably include a 50 feet long sailboat too) And you lose something when you don't post so they are forcing you to be active all the time (unless you pay to stay inactive)

This is worse than yobit's forum. This is a full blown pyramid scheme.

Well, I do take a look at that forum from time to time, but I don't get to the point of following everything you all do there. I simply put on that list those I saw teleported at the time.


Again with the still photo. Fine, you keep the still photo and I'll keep the process. I feel like I'm going to have to repeat it a million times in the thread.


Aside from the fact that you also insist on the still photo, I hope you are not saying this to argue with me because if what you mean is that as of today there is more spam there than here I agree.

I took another look, tried to read what was going on there, and its pretty awful. Good god. What are y'all possibly thinking. It's not just a spamfest, its a Super Summer Spam Extravaganza.



Yes I know it would take me about 5 seconds to find a post equally as bad on this forum, but these types of post dominate over there. To each their own I guess. You guys have fun.

If you pay a little or more attention to the forum, you would have seen that there is a massive reshuffling going on right now, with open discussions on boards and sub-boards to be deleted.Things may be slower since the administrator does not sit behind the monitor and make choices; instead, he allows members to decide what is best for the forum. The ALT forum is more democratic, which is something we lack here.

There is no such thing as a spam-free forum; if you're waiting for the forum to be spam-free, you will wait forever.

Asides from my teleported message, I have never submitted a single post!  And yes, the rest are quality posters, but they're a really small minority.

As an aforementioned user, I can assure you that altcoinstalks is a spamfest. Having "Coin Voting", "Bounties & Rewards" and "Aidrops & Giveaways" as the very first sub-boards visitors will immediately see, says it all.

Ok, sorry then . I am not native english speaker and might have missed something.

That requires you put in the effort first

I got a notification for this.
@bitmover, I think you misunderstood Poker Player. As a counterargument to the @nutildah statement, about the opening of the spamfest, he mentioned these names with the question of whether this is expected of them as well. I'd say it even sounded respectable on his part.


Similarweb is the closest thing to what Alexa used to do.

It might be unfortunate but that is how things work sometimes. There was a clear stretch going back many years which allowed mixers to be promoted here freely and many members enjoyed the benefits of participating in various signature campaigns. As part of the evolution of this forum a decision was taken by the administrator to exclude/ban mixers therefore we have to move.

I see nothing positive nor constructive when reading about how the ban has affected people. It was not nice when you made a partial refund to that mixer for your bespoke deal and also to read you stating you receive peanuts to promote the same mixer on a different forum therefore I sympathise with you but it will be better if the comparisons stop and we all move forward.

If in the end as a result of the ban other forums start building momentum, traffic and popularity then that simply is another option for those that want to register and effectively join signature campaigns. I hope you get over the money you repaid and simply enjoy looking at what possibilities await after the mixer ban dust settles.

Which source for visitor numbers would you recommend or suggest using as a comparator for what could be deemed more accurate statistics?

Oh, so what I see is that you didn't understand, at all, what I said.

You know what sarcasm is, buddy?

You understood it completely the opposite.

I didnt criticize you. I quoted you criticizing me. That is enterily different.

I am not confusing you with nutildah. You explicitly mentioned me, and he didn't

well you could be correct I have zero idea how to know website traffic reported is accurate.

How about if I sign in and out of this website 10 times an hour daily does it count at 240 visits or 1 ?

Many people say that Bitcoin is good and altcoins are shit because, to my mind, majority of them want to post for the sake of post counts and spam threads. It's like a copied text everywhere. They say that Bitcoin is good and altcoins are shit without even discussing about them. For example, why is Monero shit compared to Bitcoin? Can anyone with solid arguments tell me that Monero is a shitcoin? They can't, so, don't take that mantra seriously. There are altcoins that have their pros and cons, bitcoin has its pros and cons too. For some, Bitcoin might be the best coin and for others, some altcoins might be the best choice but this doesn't mean that every other alternative currency is a shit.

Alexa is dead, those are false numbers. To be honest, I wouldn't rely on statistics given by those websites.

that's funny.

So I now get paid peanuts for promoting that same mixer I used to promote.

It will take me years on the lessor site to get back the coin I refunded to them when they were ended here.

Sidebar question which belongs in the banned mixer thread.

I have these words under my avatar

"Your Privacy Matters"

Rather than say I cut the deal and get accused of a deal for that would changing it to

" Privacy Matters " cover me from any accusations .

 I am willing to change it to anything that is approved

Maybe  'The right to privacy matters'. it is now

'The right to privacy matters'.

I think it is not a quote of any known person so I made it that.

Your wife found a husband.  Anything is possible.

Hey @bitmover. If you are going to criticize me, I think you should say it to my face, in this forum. And apart from that I would be better that you criticized me for things that I have said, not for things that I have not said and nutildah has said.

In other words, you said:


@bitmover: I'm watching you lol.

Ok, I understand now what you are talking about. In that case, get in contact with their representatives and see what kind of deal you can get for posting on Altcoinstalk, but don't expect such an attractive package this time. Remember to reserve and duplicate your profile from Bitcointalk to Altcointalk.

Oh damn. Remind me to stand up the next time I address you. 

Agreed, they should be banned. In an attempt to try to force the hand of moderators I placed a negative tag on a Stake signature spammer that either uses AI or employs others with less English grammatical understanding to write posts for him. The spammer started writing in perfect English complaining at every possible opportunity that he should not have received a negative tag (and was no longer wearing the Stake signature therefore it is safe to say he was kicked out as a result of my negative tag).

I eventually withdrew the negative tag as advised and replaced it with a neutral. The Stake signature campaign spammer immediately returned to the gambling board to spam there after he was wearing the Stake signature again (albeit he was celebrating that 3 members added me to their distrust list because I gave him a negative tag). What this incident shows is that using AI does not get members a ban. Using others to post on your account to meet signature quota does not get a ban. Something does need to change at some point.

If the Stake campaign manager was operating with a due-diligence policy then the discussion would never have happened. These spammers cannot get on to other campaigns therefore the Stake campaign manager has contributed to the problem by giving them a platform and paying them to spam with farmed accounts. Moderators do not ban signature spammers and that is also part of the problem.

Would other forums (that see themselves to some degree as competition against this forum) allow that to happen on their platforms as their traffic flow increases? I have not studied any of them long enough to know but if they view what is happening here they should at least try to emulate the good parts and dispose of the worst parts.

What the Op is saying is "futuristic". And he is saying how the evolution will happen if people are teleporting to that side daily. But you only made mentioned or analyzed the past and present data or population of the two sides.  The op said the ban of mixers is making wave for the shitcoinstalks or altcoinstalks forum to secure more traffic compared to the time when mixers have not gone to the other forum or banned here. In the world of capitalism, population is one the great element needed to promote any business or project before quality. Bitcointalk is more popular because the great population and if great number of users in this forum go to that side, it will make that side more popular as well. Then let us come to the quality. Yes those people you mentioned are prestigious members here but how many of them participate and use the signature campaigns and their services. Other users are also needed for the growth of the community. In a community, the poor and the rich live together for the expansion and the growth and the development of the the community. Everyone in the community has their role to play, and failure of one part affect the other side. In any organic system, there are three elements for the progressive of it. The first one is growth: And bitcointalk.org has passed the stage of growth and every orgasm must passthrough this stage so altcoinstalks is on that stage now and that is why the Op said, the evolution is high in the future there. Then secondly, the development stage: This is last stage of all organisms and bitcointalk is in this stage. This is the stage where quality is needed, more features are needed in this stage to beautify the organism or the project. And altcoinstalks has not come to this stage but still on the growth stage so the Op has foresaw what will happen in the future and not the present. And what is happening in the present tells what will happen in the future.

Then concerning the peanut you said. Yes the other forum has peanut as the reward to the participants but it was a manager from here initiated that payment there and others follow suit and presently he has brought it to this forum as well. Didn't you think others might follow suit? Since the competition is not like before again. Yes the spamfest is high there but the visibility and the participation of users in the services of the campaign sites is one of the major thing in the advertisement. Qualitative is highly needed in all advertisement but according to the Holy Bible, let all grow together.