AI posters only receive neutral tags. Signature spammers only receive neutral tags.
Neutral tags aren't the problem, the problem is they should get banned. 
Topic: The effect the mixer ban has had on the forum. - page 12. (Read 4424 times)
There is no such thing as loyalty when it comes to online space (and if there is, the definition of the word 'loyalty' changes between perceptions). Though many of us have an affinity and soft spot for the forum, we will go where the money is. If signature campaigns are banned in totality, the forum will remain open but the traffic flow will become almost non-existent. As a result, alternative forums will thrive to fill the void.
After the mixers ban, it is difficult to see what else could be banned next because pretty much everything else is allowed. Scams are not moderated so scammers continue to post. AI posters only receive neutral tags. Signature spammers only receive neutral tags. Banned account operators return to make new accounts and do not get banned again when reported. Account farmers only receive neutral tags when all their accounts are linked together. I guess, everything else is (and will be) allowed for the foreseeable future but the more restrictions that are placed in this forum, the more other forums will grow.
After the mixers ban, it is difficult to see what else could be banned next because pretty much everything else is allowed. Scams are not moderated so scammers continue to post. AI posters only receive neutral tags. Signature spammers only receive neutral tags. Banned account operators return to make new accounts and do not get banned again when reported. Account farmers only receive neutral tags when all their accounts are linked together. I guess, everything else is (and will be) allowed for the foreseeable future but the more restrictions that are placed in this forum, the more other forums will grow.
Well man, I've repeated it throughout the thread but I'll repeat it one more time: that if new restrictions on signature campaigns were to be introduced, what has happened now is a warning of what could happen: that traffic would go elsewhere. It's something that has been talked about many times on Meta, there's even a current thread on the subject, but this is the first time we've seen a restriction and its consequences.
Shitcointalks.com? I don’t have an account there and probably never will.
So you're saying I can get a high-ranking shitcointalk account and sell it? 
I don't know what they do about that. I actually have taken a look around and I see that they don't let you have multiple accounts there unlike here. They ban it right away. So they are probably against account selling.
I also noticed there are many grammar errors made by either the admin or the mods. There is a picture made with paint.exe tells you about the forum rules... Everything in that forum reeks of unprofessionalism and it indeed looks like yobit's forum version 2.0.
People also can’t make money from sharing nudes here
Sure they can, but who's going to pay a bunch of ugly guys for nudes?Are you telling me that you wouldn't pay a great deal to see foxpup's panties?
“If you build the platform, pretty girls will come.”
Shitcointalks.com? I don’t have an account there and probably never will.
So you're saying I can get a high-ranking shitcointalk account and sell it? People also can’t make money from sharing nudes here
Sure they can, but who's going to pay a bunch of ugly guys for nudes?Quote
Here is another deal btt failed to take advantage of. All those pretty girls do their thing on onlyfans instead of btt…
That is a pity indeed 
So what are you really telling? Are they going to become as big as btt? They may get bigger as btt gets bigger but will they become bigger than btt just because they have the mixer campaigns?
Well man, I've repeated it throughout the thread but I'll repeat it one more time: that if new restrictions on signature campaigns were to be introduced, what has happened now is a warning of what could happen: that traffic would go elsewhere. It's something that has been talked about many times on Meta, there's even a current thread on the subject, but this is the first time we've seen a restriction and its consequences.
People also can’t make money from sharing nudes here as they do it on onlyfans. Here is another deal btt failed to take advantage of. All those pretty girls do their thing on onlyfans instead of btt… and showing nudes for money is legal in the US as far as I know. Why don’t theymos create a board for the nsfw content? Lots of rich bitcoiners would pay for this kind of content.
theymos saw the risk with the mixers isn’t worth taking.
I wonder where the altcointalk servers are located. Does anyone have an idea about the admin’s home country there? Is it Russia by any chance?
So what are you really telling? Are they going to become as big as btt? They may get bigger as btt gets bigger but will they become bigger than btt just because they have the mixer campaigns?
Well man, I've repeated it throughout the thread but I'll repeat it one more time: that if new restrictions on signature campaigns were to be introduced, what has happened now is a warning of what could happen: that traffic would go elsewhere. It's something that has been talked about many times on Meta, there's even a current thread on the subject, but this is the first time we've seen a restriction and its consequences.
I see some other user said it is easier to rank up there, if that’s the case, it is a good opportunity to make some extra income for those who have the extra time and dedication to raise an acc there.
I guess everyone has a different condition which makes them see this differently. For a person like me who has limited free time, it doesn’t make any sense to raise an acc there especially when that forum’s future is uncertain.
For somebody who doesn’t have a full time job, it is a nobrainer decision. Go and milk that forum.
I guess everyone has a different condition which makes them see this differently. For a person like me who has limited free time, it doesn’t make any sense to raise an acc there especially when that forum’s future is uncertain.
For somebody who doesn’t have a full time job, it is a nobrainer decision. Go and milk that forum.
I agree.
I maintain that there are about 4-6 good POW coins worth mining
Could you share those coins, please?I see some good Proof of Work coins worth mining and worth to use for fund transfers too.
Dogecoin
Litecoin
Monero
Zcash
Ethereum Classic
Those PoW coins are best in network security but they of course can not compare with Bitcoin network.
https://howmanyconfs.com/
add btc and grin
and the hotspot network has possibility to be okay.
I maintain that there are about 4-6 good POW coins worth mining
Could you share those coins, please?I see some good Proof of Work coins worth mining and worth to use for fund transfers too.
Dogecoin
Litecoin
Monero
Zcash
Ethereum Classic
Those PoW coins are best in network security but they of course can not compare with Bitcoin network.
https://howmanyconfs.com/
It is too early to talk about any effect, only 17 days have passed.
Honestly, there is quite a lack of quality discussions there. A fairly small number of members (mostly teleported from here) influence the quality of the conversation, and it is not easy to maintain continuity in writing meaningful posts. It's a good thing that the admin noticed an opportunity for the growth and improvement of the forum, so he works quite actively on it.
Mixer ban is theymos' decision, there is no question of regulation, they are still legal services. So just a rule of the forum, not global at all. I think that the Alttalk admin himself confirmed that he has no intention of banning mixers, at least until it is not punishable to talk about them at all.
I've noticed more people joining like mocacinno/BlackHatCoiner/witcher_sense in the last 24 hours.
I think ABCbits aka ETFbitcoin is the highest ranking member in terms of merits who join.
I think ABCbits aka ETFbitcoin is the highest ranking member in terms of merits who join.
Honestly, there is quite a lack of quality discussions there. A fairly small number of members (mostly teleported from here) influence the quality of the conversation, and it is not easy to maintain continuity in writing meaningful posts. It's a good thing that the admin noticed an opportunity for the growth and improvement of the forum, so he works quite actively on it.
Let's wait and see how long will they be able to allow mixer advertisement on their forum. At the moment there is not a big traffic and nobody cares about their forum and when mixers will be banned, they will be forced to disallow its promotion.
Mixer ban is theymos' decision, there is no question of regulation, they are still legal services. So just a rule of the forum, not global at all. I think that the Alttalk admin himself confirmed that he has no intention of banning mixers, at least until it is not punishable to talk about them at all.
Look I will post 10 - 20 posts a day there but mostly so far I do not get much discussion. I actually welcome its growth as I do not like the BTC good all the coins shit coins mantra that many practice here. (I maintain that there are about 4-6 good POW coins worth mining)
btw
https://altcoinstalks.com.webstatdata.com/
has 2,266 unique visitors
and 9,064 page views
Alexa rank is 371,541
this site loves them
https://www.similarweb.com/website/altcoinstalks.com/#overview
Though you are right about those that do not have a full time job, there are also those that employ others to post for them while they themselves concentrate on building up other accounts. I recently tagged an account that used either AI or had someone with less understanding posting on his behalf and that is another aspect of what lengths some people go to in order to pocket some cash whether at this forum or elsewhere.
For somebody who doesn’t have a full time job, it is a nobrainer decision. Go and milk that forum.
Bitcointalk Global Rank: #39,778 Worldwide
Altcoinstalks Global Rank: #540,599 Worldwide
Altcoinstalks Global Rank: #540,599 Worldwide
This quote tells everything you need to know about that forum. They won’t last.
Another blind member who sees still photos instead of processes. In October 2017, which is when ATT was created, that difference sure was a lot worse. And you could have said that with much more reason. 7 years later it's still alive and kicking. As well as having a bunch of quality posters teleported from Bitcointalk there.
So what are you really telling? Are they going to become as big as btt? They may get bigger as btt gets bigger but will they become bigger than btt just because they have the mixer campaigns?
I see some other user said it is easier to rank up there, if that’s the case, it is a good opportunity to make some extra income for those who have the extra time and dedication to raise an acc there.
I guess everyone has a different condition which makes them see this differently. For a person like me who has limited free time, it doesn’t make any sense to raise an acc there especially when that forum’s future is uncertain.
For somebody who doesn’t have a full time job, it is a nobrainer decision. Go and milk that forum.
Bitcointalk Global Rank: #39,778 Worldwide
Altcoinstalks Global Rank: #540,599 Worldwide
Altcoinstalks Global Rank: #540,599 Worldwide
This quote tells everything you need to know about that forum. They won’t last.
Another blind member who sees still photos instead of processes. In October 2017, which is when ATT was created, that difference sure was a lot worse. And you could have said that with much more reason. 7 years later it's still alive and kicking. As well as having a bunch of quality posters teleported from Bitcointalk there.
I am going to say something very simple.
I am a miner. I believe in turning watts into wealth.
This means POW may be good or bad.
I know of at least 4 or 5 POW coins I respect and have always done well mining.
So one of the most annoying this about Bitcointalk is "BTC good all else is shit."
Seems like a form of racism to me. But that's how I see it and I am just a guy in NJ,USA
So I know have two places to posts. I am going to try to cut a deal with the mixer that was forced to end here and that I promptly refunded over 4,000 usd worth of payments in late Dec.
and lets see those rankings in 30 more days.
Bitcointalk Global Rank: #39,778 Worldwide
Altcoinstalks Global Rank: #540,599 Worldwide
Bitcointalk Global Rank: #39,778 Worldwide
Altcoinstalks Global Rank: #540,599 Worldwide
Altcoinstalks Global Rank: #540,599 Worldwide
This quote tells everything you need to know about that forum. They won’t last.
Another blind member who sees still photos instead of processes. In October 2017, which is when ATT was created, that difference sure was a lot worse. And you could have said that with much more reason. 7 years later it's still alive and kicking. As well as having a bunch of quality posters teleported from Bitcointalk there.
Shitcointalks.com? I don’t have an account there and probably never will. Yobit tried to have their own forum and they failed miserably. The forum you are talking about is probably another wasteland. Even if somehow they have some conversation going on there, it won’t be any different than what happened on yobit’s forum. Mixers are advertising there now? Well, good riddance… If these mixers pay the same rate as they did in btt, then they are scamming themselves. I don’t think any real person reads that forum for real. It must be a massive spamfest. Still though, If any of you have a ranked acc there, go take advantage of it.
This quote tells everything you need to know about that forum. They won’t last.
Bitcointalk Global Rank: #39,778 Worldwide
Altcoinstalks Global Rank: #540,599 Worldwide
Altcoinstalks Global Rank: #540,599 Worldwide
This quote tells everything you need to know about that forum. They won’t last.
~snip
I've seen that you have already been teleported. The only thing I would advise you to do is to try to get a customized deal, as hugeblack said.
You can get a special deal at $2.5 per post, so the best payment in ALTT is the same as the worst payment for an SR account in BTT.
And as you said, you can combine the two forums. With how much you write you can do a good job in both.
Good luck with it.
I don't think that's going to be the least of their concerns or worries as I noticed that most users who got their accounts teleported from BTT to ALTT end up using the very same email they used to sign up to this site as well. Which means that regardless if they used the same password or not. A hacker determined to really get a hold of some BTT user's details will be able to use their email as an access pass without real issue.
Unless those users that you mentioned haven't hidden their email addresses in their Bitcointalk settings page, you can't possibly know that they have used the same email account on this forum and Altcoinstalk. I am guessing that 7/10 Bitcointalk users have hidden their email addresses from the public. I could be wrong, though. And hacking an email just because you want to isn't that easy if the user has a strong password + the all important 2FA, which can be set up on email accounts as well. Now I only understand the importance of 2FA after hearing your explanation that the problem of password leaks can be solved with 2FA. Initially I ignored this feature because I still felt I didn't need this feature. But you are right that with 2FA our account security becomes thicker or more layered.
2FA can prevent a 3rd-party from gaining access to your account by entering your username and password. It's important to point out that it can't prevent data leaks. It can't prevent that the forum gets hacked and user data lands in the wrong hands. It only prevents unauthorized access if the second factor is active.I will likely look to start posting there myself.
I am getting older and mining has been a grind for me.
I had a really good deal with an un named mixer.
It ended and I had to refund four months of prepaid btc. Well over 4,000 dollars.
I will continue posting here but likely less than I have.
I had planned to end mining and use the mixer signature to help with the transition.
Why go there only for the sake of advertising for mixers, which is no longer allowed on Bitcointalk, when you can join a different kind of signature campaign here? I don't see you as someone who is going to have difficulties finding someone willing to pay for your signature space.I am getting older and mining has been a grind for me.
I had a really good deal with an un named mixer.
It ended and I had to refund four months of prepaid btc. Well over 4,000 dollars.
I will continue posting here but likely less than I have.
I had planned to end mining and use the mixer signature to help with the transition.
Well if you know me you know most of the time I never used a signature. Been here 11 going on 12 years. Maybe did 3 or 4 years of signatures and 7 or 8 without.
I was prepaid for 6 months and had done 1 month with the unnamed mixer. They had to end and asked for 4 months refund. I thought if they are on altcoinstalk I would contact them and do an ad specifically for them.
If I were younger and still planned to mine I would not need the signature money.
I likely will end up doing a set of two signatures one here with a non mixer and one with a mixer on alt coin. they likely will be less than the 6 month deal I had. but maybe close enough to end mining. I am older my 67th birthday is in 4 days and mining only gets harder to do with age.
It has already grown since the ban of Mixers on Bitcointalk, with some of the forum's reputable members and many more having already transferred their accounts there. FYI, traffic to Bitcointalk increased when the signature campaign launched in 2011. Nobody expected Altcointalk to reach the level of Bitcointalk, but it is now on the right path to compete
Okay, let's wait and see. I don't consider altcoinstalks as a threat in any way. There is always a place for high quality posters in high paying campaigns and if someone leaves bitcointalk because they aren't good enough to participate in current signature campaigns (which pay more than campaigns listed on altcoinstalks), then they can leave bitcointalk and move on campaigns that pay $40.Mixers are not illegal and from what I've read the altcointalk forum is not hosted on the U.S jurisdiction so it's safe to say the forum is on a safer space than Bitcointalk.
It's not only about being legal and illegal. When you let services like that to promote on your website, you'll be in trouble. When you are a small guy, no one cares but when you have a big traffic and an active audience, then they care. If altcoinstalks grow, they'll have to deny mixer signature campaigns, if they don't grow, then no one will ever care. And if they don't grow, payments will remain low. 
Now I only understand the importance of 2FA after hearing your explanation that the problem of password leaks can be solved with 2FA. Initially I ignored this feature because I still felt I didn't need this feature. But you are right that with 2FA our account security becomes thicker or more layered. Thank You
It seems I really have to thank the person who came up with the idea of adding (optional) 2FA to this forum, namely PowerGlove. Thanks very much PowerGlove.
All we have to do is to protect our email its better to create a dedicated email for Bitcointalk.
BTW, 2fa can also be compromised if the browser gets hijacked AFAIK.
Maybe I am derailing the main topic, sorry for that.
You look at the still photo, and I'm talking about the possible evolution.
Altcoinstalks is at a severe disadvantage in every relevant metric. No way its going to take a measurable traffic share from Bitcointalk. Did all the posters you mention "defect" from here to there? If they want to post over there as well, good for them, but I'd be very surprised if they stopped posting here.
Sig campaigns are the result of Bitcointalk's traffic, prestige & reputation; not the other way around.
Guess I just fail to understand what the problem here is.
That is exactly the point
I use many forums. You can also find me in stackoverflow and reddit.
There is no "spam fest". I think the forum is trying to evolve.
Now that bitcointalk is not the place to host the community of bitcoin mixer users, there is gap. Altcoinstalk is trying to fill that gap. I see no problem at all. It might succeed or not.
Where will you go ask for help if you mix some coins and have problems? Or where will you go ask for information about which mixer to use? This is important, and bitcointalk used to be that place.
I don't think that's going to be the least of their concerns or worries as I noticed that most users who got their accounts teleported from BTT to ALTT end up using the very same email they used to sign up to this site as well. Which means that regardless if they used the same password or not. A hacker determined to really get a hold of some BTT user's details will be able to use their email as an access pass without real issue.
Unless those users that you mentioned haven't hidden their email addresses in their Bitcointalk settings page, you can't possibly know that they have used the same email account on this forum and Altcoinstalk. I am guessing that 7/10 Bitcointalk users have hidden their email addresses from the public. I could be wrong, though. And hacking an email just because you want to isn't that easy if the user has a strong password + the all important 2FA, which can be set up on email accounts as well. Now I only understand the importance of 2FA after hearing your explanation that the problem of password leaks can be solved with 2FA. Initially I ignored this feature because I still felt I didn't need this feature. But you are right that with 2FA our account security becomes thicker or more layered.
2FA can prevent a 3rd-party from gaining access to your account by entering your username and password. It's important to point out that it can't prevent data leaks. It can't prevent that the forum gets hacked and user data lands in the wrong hands. It only prevents unauthorized access if the second factor is active.I will likely look to start posting there myself.
I am getting older and mining has been a grind for me.
I had a really good deal with an un named mixer.
It ended and I had to refund four months of prepaid btc. Well over 4,000 dollars.
I will continue posting here but likely less than I have.
I had planned to end mining and use the mixer signature to help with the transition.
Why go there only for the sake of advertising for mixers, which is no longer allowed on Bitcointalk, when you can join a different kind of signature campaign here? I don't see you as someone who is going to have difficulties finding someone willing to pay for your signature space. I am getting older and mining has been a grind for me.
I had a really good deal with an un named mixer.
It ended and I had to refund four months of prepaid btc. Well over 4,000 dollars.
I will continue posting here but likely less than I have.
I had planned to end mining and use the mixer signature to help with the transition.
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