Topic: The impact of Russian and Ukrain war on world economy - page 10. (Read 11382 times)

You perfectly understand that it is foolish to demand from the participants of this forum knowledge of the contents of the original secret documents, which were recently leaked from the United States to social networks. Therefore, the discussion on this topic is really useless.
Now both sides in the war - Ukraine and Russia are preparing to intensify hostilities after the soil dries up and there is a good opportunity to use heavier armored vehicles. I don’t know about Russia, but Ukraine is going to attack and expel the invaders from its territory within a month and a half. The result of this offensive will put everything in its place and make this dispute irrelevant. But the events themselves promise to be very interesting.

CIA released a bunch of fake documents after the leak to try and create such doubts about the authenticity of those documents and also to spread their propaganda. In other words they did it to make the best out of a bad situation.

That just proves that you have no idea what is going on in the world.

How do you know those secret documents have been edited? Have you read the original, and can you show us what the original says? I won't talk about the war because we don't have the final result yet, so it's pointless to argue because everyone has their own opinion. But the abandonment of USD by countries is happening, and it does not need China to spread. Even their closest allies are slowly realizing the absurdity of the US, and the USD being replaced is just a cycle of world currency because no one can stay on top forever.

https://news.bitcoin.com/french-president-emmanuel-macron-states-europe-must-reduce-its-dependence-on-the-us-dollar-to-avoid-becoming-vassals/

Don't tell me these articles are spread by China and Russia

Well, here you obviously exaggerated everything in the style of Kremlin propaganda.

First, the released secret documents from the United States were edited before publication. For example, they underestimate the losses in the Russian war and overestimate the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. This points to their editing by the Kremlin. But even these documents do not indicate that American intelligence sees no prospects for victory for Ukraine. It states that the war may drag on and reach a stalemate, since neither side will be able to achieve a clear victory. But this is only one of the possible assumptions. Before the Russian attack, they also assumed that Ukraine would not last even seven days against Russia ...

Secondly, the United States and Europe are united in their desire to provide all possible assistance to Ukraine as much as it will be necessary for its victory. Putin's propaganda is trying in every possible way to break this unity and sow doubt in them about the effectiveness of the assistance provided to Ukraine.

Thirdly, that the countries intend to gradually abandon the dollar, this information was born in China and is promoted in every possible way. So they are trying to weaken the United States, with which China may have a military confrontation. This hype appears not for the first time and periodically disappears.

Global trade that was still recovering from pandemic. Food prices have soared, since Russia and Ukraine are major suppliers of wheat and sunflower oil, and Russia is the world's top fertilizer producer. Between this two country's war other European countries is facing such and such problems for millions of people less directly affected, the sudden shattering of Europe's peace has brought uncertainty and anxiety.

While supporters of rashism suffer from the painful haze "Ukraine will not win", we will get acquainted with the new package of "improvements" in Russia

Of course, this item must be the first.
This is really "unparalleled", though in the civilized world. This is an ordinary legalized Middle Ages, and almost slavery. This is what I'm talking about. Federation Council this week, without much discussion and debate, passed the law. The law is like the law, but there are nuances As you know, the "second army of the world" turned out to be a fake, and was actually defeated. In 2024, the terrorist country will have presidential elections. Well, like elections. The next show, where 130% of the population will vote for Putin, will be crowned and appointed the god of the whole world for life Therefore, Putin is afraid to carry out another OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED mobilization - his electorate is already not very pleased, having become massively receiving coffins with their relatives who were called to kill civilian population of Ukraine. What to do ? The army is evaporating before our eyes, the criminals for PMC Wagner are over, ordinary idiots were killed for the first and second mobilization. But it is necessary to replenish the ranks of disposable soldiers, and arrange new "meat assaults", because. the noose on the gallows in The Hague is increasingly coming to Putin in dreams And a way out was found. Mobilization is not announced, but the entire population becomes slaves who have no rights and for whom the constitution does not apply, but there are only slavish obligations to implement the complexes of the Kremlin ghoul!
So what is this law about? And now the most important thing
1. Now all citizens of military age become the objects of the call.
2. The existing mechanism for the transmission of the summons to the call is cancelled. No one will hand over any subpoenas.
3. The new system looks like this - the state register of public services, it simply publishes an electronic agenda there. And then you thought - "well, I published it, okay. And if I'm not connected to this service, or I don't use it, it won't affect me!"
but Putin's painful complexes find excellent solutions!
4. Every resident of Russia IS OBLIGED TO CONSTANTLY CHECK his personal account for the presence of an agenda! And even if you did not register there, this does not bother anyone and does not give you the right to avoid punishment!
You say - but this is nonsense!? No - this is Russia!
If within 20 days from the date of publication of the summons in the state register, a citizen did not appear at the military registration and enlistment office for conscription (to go and die in Ukraine), the punishment system begins to work!

The law states that from the moment the summons is served until the personal appearance at the military registration and enlistment office, the conscript is prohibited from leaving the country. At the same time, we recall that the summons will be automatically considered delivered from the moment it is posted in the user's personal account on the State Services portal.
If the summons is ignored, the conscript in the next draft campaign is ordered to appear at the military registration and enlistment office voluntarily. If he does not do this, in twenty days, according to Andrey Kartapolov, he will face the next loss of rights: a ban on driving a car, on registration of individual entrepreneurs and transactions, on the opportunity to take a loan from a bank. Also, local authorities will be given the right to deprive dodgers of benefits, payments and other support measures.
In addition, no one has canceled the “traditional” measures of influence: a fine for failure to appear on the agenda in the amount of up to three thousand rubles or criminal prosecution with the prospect of receiving a prison term of up to two years.

Those. the classic scheme of disenfranchised serfs who "are obliged to go and die, because the master so desires"

The recent leaked classified documents out of United States shows that US intelligence does not see any hope for Ukraine in this fight and they also don't see any end to it (or any progress) this year either. This means the West is going to continue pouring money into this war continuing the same path as last year with higher inflation and recession and deindustrialization of Europe.

As for the world Economy, any country that succeeded over the past year to not get sucked into this conflict or obey the US demands (like replacing cheap Russian energy with very expensive US energy) is going to continue strengthening their economy and expand their GDP. Possibly a lot more in 2023 compared to 2022 and even more in 2024.
This process will become faster as dedollarisation continues since countries that dump the Dollar will be less affected by its inflation and more importantly they are eliminating United States ability to put any kind of pressure on them to enforce its demands.

Russia miscalculated by underestimating US and NATO support for Ukraine, making the war last longer than expected. But the US and the EU also misjudged the Russian economy and assumed that sanctions would weaken Russia. Things didn't go as they expected, the Russian economy was still standing strong and almost unaffected by the sanctions. Given Russia's close ties with China and India, I don't think the Russian economy will be devastated and left behind.

This is a war not only between Russia and Ukraine but between the two poles of the world. It is a war to assert the power of politicians, it is difficult to say who initiated this war because many people benefit from this war.

You speak in a very veiled way about the war between Ukraine and Russia. The war did not start on its own. Someone started it. Some are aggressive, some are defensive. Here it must be said directly that the aggressor is Russia, which invaded Ukraine and thereby unleashed the most bloody war that has not been seen since the Second World War. In order for the war to end, it is enough for the Kremlin to withdraw its occupying troops from the territory of Ukraine.

But the aggressor, and the aggressor is an impostor, is now presiding over the UN Security Council. A paradoxical situation: Russia has never joined the UN and the UN has never accepted Russia as a member, now it chairs the UN Security Council. What can Russia teach other members of the UN? How to violate all possible norms of this organization? For example, it is interesting how the Kremlin justifies the motives for the invasion of Ukraine. They believe that Ukraine would eventually attack Russia, so Russia itself carried out a preemptive attack.
  Imagine a situation: another person is walking towards a person. The first, due to some delusional thoughts, suspected that the oncoming one could attack him and therefore pulls out a gun and kills him himself. Russia considers it justified. What will happen in the world with such logic is not difficult to imagine.

The Russia-Ukraine war is destroying the global economy. A huge oil supply deficit is driving up prices. This terrible situation requires immediate and strong global action. The only issue? Nobody wants to be kind anymore. Every nation is focused on itself, and cooperation is gone. Some governments are worsening the war to achieve strategic interests. Those jerks must be punished. We must encourage the world community to act quickly and decisively against war-mongering nations. Rethink our economic policies and prioritize sustainable growth and development. Unless we act now, we'll destroy the global economy and leave future generations with our mess.

Why do you stubbornly go on quoting moscowtimes.ru? It's a propaganda website with a connection to CIA.

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Project: Funding English- and Russian-language The Moscow Times - EUR 20,000 (15 November 2021)

Potamos Foundation owns The Moscow Times, an independent English- and Russian-language online newspaper. The English-language newspaper was published on paper in Russia from 1992 to 2017 and was both distributed for free and sold as a subscription. The newspaper was popular among foreign citizens living in Moscow and English-speaking Russians. The newspaper became online-only in July 2017 and launched its Russian-language service in 2020.

Journalistically, The Moscow Times is back and perhaps more impactful than ever before. The Russian edition offers an opportunity to give an extra boost to the brand. The Boomgaard Foundation contributes financially to this independent newspaper and to the future of a generation of young Russian journalists.

After further googling our little Stichting Potamos investigation leads us to Eliot Higgins and Bellingcat. I'm sure you know Bellingcat is a MI6/CIA sockpuppet, just to make sure here's Eliot Higgins' twitter feed: https://twitter.com/eliothiggins/

In other words - this website has nothing to do with Russian state media (or Russian media at all?) apart from the .ru domain apparently.


More lies: Sweden is not a part of NATO. There is access to the Baltic Sea from mainland Russia and also from Russian enclave of Kaliningrad (sheeeit, at this point Bozo the clown looks more credible than you).


Wait, if illegal employment has collapsed, it's actually great for Putin? More taxes will be paid?  

Let's just say that Russia turned out to be the first country that provided a lend-lease service to Ukraine, "transferring" a really huge amount of weapons to Ukraine, after their stampede in the same Kharkiv region
The same picture was after the "good will gesture" and the cowardly flight of the occupying Russian army from the southern direction of Ukraine.
I am sure that around May 2023, we will see new interesting events, where there will be a new wave of Lend-Lease from Russia in favor of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
According to the data that I have, as part of my "additional work", for example, the 8-month-old "offensive" on Bakhmut, so far has only led to indescribable losses of Russian manpower and equipment, and what is important - they act like locusts - simply destroying everything on on their way but do not build fortification areas in the destroyed territories. And this means that when the situation at the front changes, they will not be able to conduct defensive battles, and will again be forced to shamefully, en masse, flee, leaving equipment and heaps of corpses of their soldiers.
While I will give a forecast, we are following the events around May of this year, in the eastern direction.

The impact of Russia and Ukraine war is devastating for the whole world in particular it has disturbed the supply chain of Food and petroleum products which has resulted in food and energy shortage worldwide. This is leading to skyrocketing inflation and making life of the people miserable in particular developing countries of Asian and African continents.

It is crucial for world leaders to sit together and find out a peaceful resolution of this conflict & this situation demands urgent and collective efforts on global level to alleviate the suffering of those affected by this crisis.

The only caveat concerns the third wave of mobilization - I agree officially, of course, the pathetic Kremlin Fuhrer will not officially confirm that there will be a third wave of mobilization
If you remember - at the beginning of the terrorist attack in February 2022, Putin, with a smile, heroically swore to everyone that "there will be no mobilization, I give you my word." The second army of the world, "we will capture Ukraine in 3 days"

... and after the official completion of the mobilization, which, according to Putin's promises, should not have happened, when asked to officially announce the cessation of mobilization, Putin and the company also refused to declare, saying - "well, we have completed, and completed, why write something!" .. .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8aFyA6hW78

After that, they "quietly" carried out a second mobilization for 300,000 plus they recruited 50,000 criminals in the Wagner !

The answer to this question is - just watch, you understand that in the country of total lies, and the constant change of "truth", no one openly curls about it. Just watch!

And this is for reading - you have already received the agenda! Coming soon! -government/


And the rest - we perfectly understand that you simply did not want to "break" such a post with your own hands ... I'll fix it

1. about Mishustin. I am not quoting your speculations, but the article in full (https://www.interfax.ru/russia/826862): Russia's federal budget deficit continues to increase, Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin said, speaking with a report on the work of the government in the State Duma. As of March 8, the government's spending more than doubled its revenues - 6.3 trillion rubles against 3 trillion, Mishustin said. Thus, after a record deficit of 1.8 trillion rubles in January for 25 years, growth to 2.6 trillion rubles in February, in the first week of March, the hole in the treasury reached 3.3 trillion rubles. As of March 21, the deficit increased to 3.7 trillion rubles, follows from the data of the Electronic Budget system. Having collected 3.352 trillion rubles in taxes, the Ministry of Finance spent 7.035 trillion. “This is the so-called advanced financing,” Mishustin told the deputies. According to him, "part of the costs" was decided to be postponed to the beginning of the year, so that "the conclusion of contracts would not stand." “In this sense, the deficit will continue to come in line with the parameters,” the prime minister said. The Ministry of Finance, we recall, drew up a budget with a hole of 2% 25 of GDP or 2.9 trillion rubles, but this figure was already exceeded in February. “In terms of revenue, the problem for the Russian Ministry of Finance is the very low revenue from oil and gas,” says Janis Kluge, senior fellow at the German Institute for International and Security Affairs. According to the Ministry of Finance, in January-February, the collection of raw materials taxes to the treasury fell by 46%, and non-oil and gas revenues - by 9.1%. The total budget revenues sank by 25% to 3.163 trillion rubles. “In terms of costs, the war forces the government to pay in advance for the production of weapons,” Kluge explains. For the year, the Ministry of Finance intends to allocate almost 10 trillion rubles, or almost a third of the treasury's expenses, to provide for the army, law enforcement agencies and the state defense order.

About Hungary - google in 1 second https://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2023/03/30/20091241.shtml https://ria.ru/20230330/vengriya-1861741380.html
You can refute the answers !?

And the question is - why are you trying to lie so stupidly, primitively twist the facts!
“Perhaps this is a defensive reaction of the Russian psyche, which prefers not to notice that the economy of his country has completely degraded, the country has become an outcast, greatness has been “blown away”, GDP has fallen by more than 40% in a year, the army is on the verge of defeat. In such difficult life circumstances, it is easy lose all touch with reality. Let's be more lenient, it is not known how each of us would behave in a similar situation. " (c) my favorite humorist be.open

PS By the way - about the budget. I predict that in the next 3 months, many social programs will be reduced in Russia, and they will try to close the ever-growing hole at the expense of .. private individuals' savings, in fact, direct withdrawal of funds from accounts, and replacing them with pieces of paper that cost nothing. They call it internal loan bonds

- about the "CIA-sponsored" - provide the facts?

Well, rumors that Russia is running out of missiles are unlikely to have appeared as early as a month after the large-scale invasion of Ukraine. Most likely, it was at the end of summer - in the fall. Residents of Ukraine have already felt the consequences of the lack of missiles from Russia. Mass attacks are becoming less and less frequent and this is good news.

For now, I can give a link to an article where the photo shows these obsolete T-54 and T-55 tanks, which are sent to the war in Ukraine on railway platforms. When they become a real scrap metal in Ukraine, I will definitely throw off more.
https://www.unian.net/weapons/t-54-rossiya-snimaet-s-hraneniya-drevnie-tanki-t-54-dlya-otpravki-na-voynu-v-ukrainu-12188649.html


Russia is really now opposing NATO members in the sense that they are providing Ukraine with all possible assistance with weapons, material and financial resources. At the same time, assistance to Ukraine comes not only from NATO countries. But the Ukrainians are fighting against the Russians, with some exceptions of volunteers from Russia itself, Belarus, Chechnya, all those who hope that the victory of Ukraine will bring deliverance to their peoples from Russian oppression.
Russia deliberately attacked critical infrastructure facilities in Ukraine in winter in order to deprive its inhabitants of light, water and heat. Because of this, there were critical periods with a lack of energy in Ukraine, but again, thanks to international assistance with generators and the necessary electrical equipment, the situation was stabilized. Many politicians came to Ukraine to see the consequences of Russian war crimes. It's strange that you don't know.

New "achievements of great Russia"
- The Ministry of Finance reported on the fall in the price of Russian oil to a new "bottom". The Kremlin's decision to cut oil production by 500,000 barrels per day proved powerless to raise prices for the Russian grade Urals.
In March, the average price of the main Russian export brand fell to $47.85 per barrel, the Ministry of Finance reported on Monday.
Compared to February, Urals quotes sank another $1.71 (3.4%), compared to January they turned out to be lower by $1.63, and in annual terms they collapsed almost 2 times.
So cheap, according to official statistics, Russian oil has never been worth since November 2020, when the global market experienced the shock of the pandemic and the strongest overproduction crisis in history.

https://www.moscowtimes.ru/2023/04/03/minfin-otchitalsya-o-padenii-tseni-rossiiskoi-nefti-na-novoe-dno-a38918

But some still squeal "Russian oil costs $70" 


- Finland officially joins NATO and becomes the 31st member of the union. +1340 km border with NATO from Russia. The Baltic Sea has become NATO's inland sea


- In Russia, the shadow economy collapsed: more than a million citizens lost their unofficial jobs
The shadow economy of Russia, which before the war, according to RANEPA, accounted for up to a third of the national GDP, experienced a shock unprecedented for more than 10 years.

The number of people employed in the informal sector, which includes workers in the gray, as well as individual entrepreneurs and their employees, decreased by 1.2 million people last year, Vedomosti reports, citing Rosstat statistics.

https://www.moscowtimes.ru/2023/04/03/v-rossii-posipalas-tenevaya-ekonomika-bolshe-milliona-grazhdan-poteryali-neofitsialnuyu-rabotu-a38851


Well, a little history that repeats itself: Russian businessmen steal Ukrainian enterprises in the occupied territories ... In the best traditions of their ancestors who plundered Germany in 1944-1945 ...

There are rumors about "Russia running out of rockets" circulating since March last year. Unfortunately, what we still see now are the Russian rockets flying, including newer Caliber ones. I don't know where they're taking the chips from, washing machines, electric kettles or whatever but the fact is: Russia is still able to produce hi-tech arms. Let's face it - sanctions don't work.

I'd really like to see a pic of a T54 or T55 tank destroyed or captured in Ukraine. If you have any, please post a link.

Let's make it clear: Russia is facing the entire NATO and almost the entire Western world in Ukraine. Most of the ex-Soviet tanks, APCs, artillery and anti-aircraft units of the Ukrainian army have been destroyed already. And another thing: I don't think Russian rockets are hitting civilian infrastructure because Putin is an evil and bloodthirsty monster. He's too pragmatic to afford that. The real reason is that the rockets are not precise enough and going off-target frequently.

Two main issues this offensive is going to face are: lack of experienced military personnel and lack of modern tanks and armored vehicles, artillery support and aircraft. Some of these issues can be solved, some can't (short-term). In any case, I will be following the situation closely, I believe we'll find out the result in some 4-5 months.

Yes, stop! Explain: according to your logic - if robbers or murderers attack you, calling the police or trying to disarm or detain criminals is impossible! Because they can hurt the policemen and you even more? Are you seriously ?! Russia began the seizure and destruction of Ukraine, long before military-technical assistance went to Ukraine. Nothing bothers you? Only honestly, in relation to yourself it is desirable?

PS if there was no lend-lease, would the second world war have ended and Nazi Germany calmed down, returned the occupied territories, restored the destroyed cities, resurrected the dead? So it turns out?

By the time the full-scale war began, over 20 million tons of unexported grain remained in Ukrainian warehouses. At the same time, 1.5 million tons - in the territory of Kherson, Zaporozhye, Luhansk and Donetsk regions temporarily occupied by Russia.

As part of the Grain Initiative, about 25 million tons of food products were exported from Ukraine, and thanks to the Black Sea Initiative, WFP has delivered more than half a million tons of wheat since August to support humanitarian operations in Afghanistan, Ethiopia, Kenya, Somalia and Yemen. We can say that Ukraine managed to export its agricultural products last year.

Putin promised to provide African countries with grain for free if the agreement on the transportation of grain through the Black Sea ports is not extended?
But it was Russia that blocked the export of Ukrainian grain from its Black Sea ports. And what kind of grain does Putin promise to deliver to African countries? Maybe stolen in Ukraine and which is very difficult for him to sell due to monitored actions by the world community?

During the occupation of the southern and eastern Ukrainian regions, the Russians stole over 500 thousand tons of grain - a third of the reserves in these territories. But this information may be outdated and the volume of theft can be much larger.

Are you really surprised that the sides of the Russian world are so stupidly and primitively lying and distorting the facts?
I will tell you a secret - this is the only option for them to survive at least in an alternative reality consisting of their lies. In it, lies, they are great, they defeat the USA and the whole world, the whole world depends on them, they have the second army of the world, they live in abundance. But it's all FAKE! Yes, and Russia itself is a huge, centuries-old FAKE created on the basis of LIES and crimes! They either attribute crimes to others, or present them in the form of their heroism and honor. Otherwise, they will have to plunge into reality - where they are nobody, and there is no way to call them!

A simple example from this forum: Some participants say, stubbornly, every day that Russian oil costs 75-80 dollars. And even when you "poke your nose" at them, even at Russian official data, data from online exchanges and trading platforms, they still continue to mutter "you are all lying, Russian oil is expensive, the world cannot do without it, everyone will die without it, so everyone they buy it for 80 dollars and stand in a big queue"

Believe me, a couple of years will pass, and what has happened in Russia over the past 20 years will be settled not only by international courts, but also by international PSYCHIATRY, because without mental deviations, people en masse cannot behave like this! The question remains - how did it manage to influence mental health through propaganda