Topic: The impact of Russian and Ukrain war on world economy - page 7. (Read 13382 times)

1. We do what we need to do in our own country, it has nothing to do with you, and no one is interested in your opinion .

2. A coup is what happened in Russia, during the change of power, with the shooting of the White House, and the violent seizure of power.

3. Provide evidence in favor of your morbid fantasy of a "coup" ?  

3.1 The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, the constitution and other attributes of the LAWful power were not changed. No organs of power were seized.  Just the criminal president (kleptomaniac and swindler, a copy of Putin), cowardly ran away, leaving his post. After almost half a year, due to his unwillingness to return and bear responsibility for his crimes against the people of Ukraine, special presidential elections were held. By this time, Russia, having violated all obligations and treaties, had already invaded Ukraine and destroyed Ukrainian citizens....

4. The only thing that pisses off the Russians in this situation is that the Ukrainians are fighting the power of thieves, and can fearlessly oppose the government, and the Russians - cowardly sit and endure everything that their under-furrer does to them )

But I don't expect an answer from you, why should I listen to another portion of Rashist nonsense ?

Let's get back to the topic: on the day of celebration, hopefully the last birthday of the world terrorist Putin, Russian terrorists blew up Balticconnector - "The offshore gas pipeline between Finland and Estonia has been stopped. A possible explosion was detected in the area of the facility". In general, I wrote about economic terrorism on the part of Russia back in 2021, so I am not surprised.
I am also not surprised that in the videos of terrorists from Gaza, you can hear Russian cries of "cover/retreat/...", as well as a lot of information about the hysterical attempt of Russia to remove its Hamas advisers and helpers from this territory. The goal here is very clear - destabilization of the eastern region, increased burden on the U.S. budget, due to the need to help Israel, as well as possible problems in the oil market, as the region may "catch fire" again for many years. The underline of the international terrorists, the Kremlin, is hard to hide.....

Out of the countries that you have listed, only Iran is a major producer of crude oil. And as far as I have heard, Israel may refrain from directly attacking Iran. That is not the case with Lebanon, as there is a good chance that the Israeli military will conduct a few incursions into that country to destroy the Hezbollah. One risk factor that I can foresee is Iranian backed Houthi rebels attacking the oil installations within Saudi Arabia. Any such attack would immediately push the Brent crude to three digit levels, worsening the inflation issue around the globe.

Countries around the world moving towards Electric Vehicles had been a big thing. This have cut the energy requirements and countries are into infrastructure development for the production of renewable energy sources to lower the dependence over oil. This won't let the price of oil increase to such a level as that happened past due to different wars. Most of the countries have taken the decision soon after the Ukraine-Russia war by which the sanctions caused the stop of oil supply to western countries. Many countries suffered much during those days and had taken it a learning.

That's because the market is afraid that this conflict will turn into some kind of a regional war. Countries like Lebanon, Iran and Egypt can be easily dragged into this conflict any moment. The price of oil is already surging, and I really hope we won't see the price quadruple because of this conflict like in the 1970ies.

The fallout from the Ukraine conflict is expected to weigh heavily on economies in Europe and the wider Central Asian region this year. Apart from the consequences of political events the developing world is suffering the most from the sanctions and counter sanctions caused by the war although the people of Ukraine are very vigilant. While the world economic situation is on the way to return to normality after coping with the corona pandemic, the Russia-Ukraine war which has turned into a war between the superpowers has put the world economic situation in a deep crisis and stress and the impact of their war is on the poor countries.

This is very simple to understand; the oil market reacted with growth to a significant increase in risks due to the escalation of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. Just remember the events of 50 years ago during the Yom Kippur War, which provoked an oil crisis throughout the world with the price of oil quadrupling.

Crude oil prices went up by 5% as soon as the information about Hamas attack was published. I don't understand this. Both Israel and Palestine are not among the top producers of crude oil. So why the prices went up? There is only a remote possibility that some of the crude producers such as Iran will get involved. This is like a double whammy for people like me. Here in India, we import close to 85%-90% of all the crude for our consumption. The rising cost of crude oil import is worsening the account deficit, and the inflation rate has gone up. 

I won't even comment on your nonsense. For any significant political event, one can find rebuttals from suspicious witnesses to sow doubt about the events that took place. However, people in Ukraine know how the events took place in 2013-2014 in the central square of the capital of Ukraine. And they will trust their eyes, and not the similar evidence in the article that you provide.

Israel and Hamas have intensified the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, which has not even begun. At this point, it is unclear how it will affect countries that are far away from the conflict. Could Israel and Hamas be to blame if fuel prices and prime commodities are quickly impacted even in Russia and Ukraine?

It's still unfortunate for the citizens of the aforementioned nations, though. How do they manage to survive there? Given the current state of the nation, the situation must be challenging, right?

Those were Georgian mercenaries lead by US military instructors shooting at the crowd:


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Source: https://bsahely.com/2018/03/24/the-hidden-truth-about-ukraine-and-the-us-involvement-in-the-maidan-massacre/

Fun fact: years later very similar "carbon copy" riots took place in another post-Soviet country - Belarus. Again, young people, mostly students, lead by "activists" planned to overthrow democratically-elected president Lukashenko. But they failed this time...

All this proves yet another time that you're too shallow to understand what is really going on around you. You have no idea why the war started, what was the reason and who is making profit due to it. You are blindly consuming propaganda without using your own brain. 

It is you that is mixing things here, no one is saying that other things could not cause the economy to be badly affected but pointing to the fact that the present one, or should I say the last one was mainly caused by the war between Russia and Ukraine. Also, I don't know why you are even linking Covid-19 to this, it's a disaster and pandemic that could cause the world to be at a standstill position. However, the world has passed that and the government made adequate efforts to cushion its effect, it's gone.

Anything could induce economic turmoil, but the current ones that are still being faced by some countries were aggravated by the Russia-Ukriane war. I blame the world that depends on just two countries for the supply of important raw materials and commodities.

International human rights organizations such as the UN, OSCE, IAEA and others are very much corrupted by Russia, which did not spare its money on this. In addition, the charters of these organizations are very outdated and do not meet the requirements of the current time. Any UN resolutions assessing Russia’s attack on Ukraine are now blocked by Russia itself, which is a permanent member of the UN Security Council and can veto any decisions of this international organization. The paradox also lies in the fact that no one has ever accepted Russia into the UN; Russia is in the UN without permission and illegally, only because at one of the meetings it announced that it is the legal successor of the USSR.

A state that is accused of violating the UN charter should not have the right to vote in decisions made against it, much less have the right to veto its decisions. This is the essence of the current inaction of such international organizations.

If you think that punishing the aggressor country is not a solution to the issue, offer your options. You can offer Putin's Russia the territory of your country in exchange for peace. Just keep in mind that Russia does not keep its promises and after capturing some territories, after some time it will come to capture everything.

I agree with you, but partially, of course, war is not a small thing, and its impact is unimaginable too. At the same time, all should think about why it's happening in the first place. Who's started it, and why? Who's pouring the gasoline in the fire? Out of all these questions, should we conclude by accusing one country? Why are international so-called peacemaking organizations silent? There are many questions still unanswered, so, in conclusion, the leader of the country should always be highly diplomatic and keep diplomacy in neighboring countries. Even though it's difficult, as a leader who is responsible for the people of his or her country, diplomatic talk with other countries is always better than a war. Never ever think war is the solution to a problem. And finally, I don't think punishment is the solution, but stopping war, giving a new life to the affected, and making peace with two countries And all these should be done by international organizations and common-friend countries of both Ukraine and Russia.

I do not deny that the war between Russia and Ukraine is destabilizing the world economy. But don't forget that the Covid pandemic is also one of the causes of the current chaos. Even without a pandemic or war, there would still be an economic crisis because it would be the result of the government printing money uncontrollably. Crises and recessions are part of the economy and will recur periodically.

Don't blame this war entirely because neither side benefited much from the war. But there is one country that is benefiting as much from the war as it is exporting inflation to the world. When talking about the world economic situation, we need to have a broader view than just blaming war.

You incorrectly state the events that took place in Ukraine from November 2013 to February 2014, which went down in the history of Ukraine as the Revolution of Dignity. Since many participants in this forum probably do not know these events, I will provide a brief chronology of them here.

On November 21, 2013, the government of Mykola Azarov decided to suspend the process of preparing for the signing of an association agreement between Ukraine and the EU. This happened at a time when President Viktor Yanukovych assured journalists in Vienna that Ukraine’s European integration was continuing. At the EU summit, Yanukovych refused to sign an association agreement with the European Union. After this, people began to gather in the center of Kyiv. At this time, fighters of the Berkut special forces began to arrive in the Ukrainian capital from all regions.

On the night of November 30, security forces brutally dispersed activists, mostly students, on Kiev's Independence Square. The authorities motivated this by the desire to clear space for the New Year tree. Berkut's actions sparked new protests in Kyiv.

On December 1, people occupied Independence Square. Since that time, the protests have not stopped. Activists demanded the resignation of the government and early elections. Activists created a tent city and stayed there around the clock.

On the afternoon of December 11, information appeared about preparations for an assault on the tent city. Activists strengthened barricades in anticipation of an assault. The security forces began storming the barricades on the Maidan, but were unable to capture them. On January 16, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine adopted so-called “dictatorial” laws in order to minimize protests. This led to a new wave of confrontation.

On the night of January 22, the first two unarmed activists, Sergei Nigoyan and Mikhail Zhiznevsky, died from gunshot wounds on the Maidan. Residents of Kyiv began to move en masse to the site of the clash between protesters and security forces on Grushevsky Street. At about eight in the evening on February 18, security forces announced the start of an anti-terrorist operation and began storming the barricades on Independence Square using armored vehicles.

February 20 became the bloodiest in the history of Euromaidan. The security forces began to use firearms. A video has appeared of how on Instytutska Street snipers are shooting at activists who, without weapons, under the cover of wooden shields, tried to approach along Instytutska Street in the direction of the Verkhovna Rada and the Presidential Administration. Snipers pierced through homemade shields and the bodies of activists. According to the Prosecutor General's Office, 2.5 thousand people were injured during Euromaidan, 104 of them died. The dead protesters began to be called the Heavenly Hundred.

Negotiations lasted almost the entire night of February 21, in which the then President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych, representatives of the European Union and Russia took part. In the morning, the presidential administration announced their completion, and in the afternoon an agreement was signed to hold early presidential elections in December 2014. But their results did not satisfy the people. People present at Independence Square booed opposition leaders who came out to them to tell them about the signing of an agreement with the Ukrainian authorities to resolve the crisis. One of the Maidan centurions came onto the stage and declared that after 77 Maidan activists were killed, if information does not arrive by 10 a.m. the next day, February 23, that President Yanukovych has resigned, his self-defense hundred will go to storming of the Presidential Administration. https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2014/02/21/7015590/

  Already that same evening it became known that President Viktor Yanukovych fled from his Mezhyhirya residence and flew to Kharkov, then to Donetsk. There he tried to fly out of Ukraine by plane, but the border guards did not let him out due to the lack of properly executed documents. After that, he arrived in Crimea by plane at 12 o’clock on February 23, where Yanukovych was met by about 30 Russian military personnel who accompanied him to the Russian Navy sanatorium in Yalta. (At that time, there was a treaty Russian naval base on the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea, which Russia later used to seize the peninsula.) Yanukovych was taken from Crimea to Russia by the Russian military. Yanukovych’s last step before leaving Ukraine was to write a statement renouncing state protection. After that, some of the guards went with him to Russia, and some stayed behind. A detailed chronology of Yanukovych’s escape from Ukraine after he ordered the shooting of unarmed Maidan activists can be read here. https://nv.ua/ukraine/events/podhotovka-panika-i-tajnye-perehovory-kak-janukovich-sbezhal-iz-ukrainy-v-rossiju-2453201.html

Thus, no one overthrew Yanukovych from the post of President of Ukraine. He himself fled from Ukraine like a coward, fearing popular anger and never appeared in Ukraine again.

As a result of the war between these two countries, Ukraine and Russia, almost all countries of the world are in economic crisis. With the products of these two countries, Ukraine and Russia, the needs of almost all countries are covered. The long-running war between Ukraine and Russia has put many risks in the supply and exchange of goods. Failure to properly exchange Russian food products and Ukraine's energy products has created a global crisis. Due to this crisis, the prices of everything are increasing day by day. This is clear as a result of the war between Ukraine and Russia, the global economy has suffered a major collapse

I guess you wanted to say after a US sponsored and masterminded coup in Ukraine (I hope the cookies were worth it haha?) and overthrowing legitimate president Yanukovych, coup leaders aka US sockpuppets suddenly realized they need to join NATO? Muahaha...  


 

The thesis that Russia attacked Ukraine because of Ukraine's alleged desire to join NATO is a "Russian information duck", which they then tried to justify themselves with. The problem is... Russia's attack on Ukraine took place in early 2014, when the seat of the criminal president Yanukovych was still warm, and there was no talk of NATO or even "near" it. The desire (but not the plan of accession) of Ukraine to become a member of NATO, officially appeared only at the end of 2018 and was not formalized as "join NATO", but "choosing a vector for potential membership in NATO", and one of the main goals was to restore and reform the army, and departure from the standards of the USSR. So the idea of Ukraine's membership in NATO is a consequence of Russian aggression, not the other way around.

So Russia, as always, is primitively lying, trying to justify its crimes.

If someone claims that he doesn't know a war is going on in Ukraine, then the person may either not be in an urban area or doesn't care about what is going on in the world around him. This was the talk of the town then, both local and international news outlets propagated it. This is a senseless Putin war that he thought he could win easily, but he was wrong. Putin has no right to engage a sovereign nation for whatsoever reason, any independent country is free to ally with anyone they choose to.

China is the main reason for NATO of today, not Russia, and Russia could have been the second most powerful voice in NATO if Putin saw things the way other European countries see it. I don't know how any country will attack such a nuclear power country like Russia without thinking twice. Why that much fear to the point of wasting thousands of lives in his senseless war?

Russia's large-scale military attack on Ukraine has been going on for the 19th month, that is, for more than a year and a half. The fact that Putin did not want Ukraine to join NATO is not the main reason for Russia's attack on Ukraine. If the question of Ukraine's membership in NATO had not arisen, Putin and his circle would have come up with another reason for attacking Ukraine.

If Putin was so afraid of increasing Russia’s direct border with NATO members, why then did Russia not react in any way to the fact that on April 4, 2023, Finland became the 31st NATO member state after the attack on Ukraine? After all, after its entry into the North Atlantic Alliance, NATO’s common border with Russia doubled and reached 2,600 kilometers. Finland, which joined the Western defense alliance against the backdrop of the Russian invasion of Ukraine that began in February 2022, has a 1,300-kilometer border with the Russian Federation in the far north.

Putin has a manic idea to forcefully return the former Soviet republics to his new empire, and he puts this idea into practice by attacking Ukraine. Let me remind you that every state has the inalienable right to determine its own foreign policy and decide which military or economic unions to join, and to indulge some underfuhrers only means increasing their appetites.