Topic: The impact of Russian and Ukrain war on world economy - page 5. (Read 13382 times)

Ukraine cooperating with Terrorists organizations like Al-Qauida and ISIS in another sovereign nation called Syria that is destabilizing that country and the entire region has nothing to do with "punishing Russia". It is an act of terrorism and an attack on Syria, regardless of how Ukrainian officials want to cover it up.

It is worth recalling the words of the head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine Budanov that Russian war criminals will receive fair punishment in different parts of the world, wherever they are. And now we are seeing it live.

Russia has been active in recent decades, including on the African continent, where it has tried to resolve geopolitical and economic issues, change or support certain governments in its interests. And today the whole world sees that this potential is no longer the same and Russia’s capabilities are no longer the same. This means that there will be fewer new orders and fewer hopes for Russia to solve problems in the region.

On the night of July 28, reports began to appear on social networks that dozens of militants from the former Wagner PMC, as well as representatives of the Mali army, were killed by Tuareg rebels. These messages were accompanied by photographs and videos showing burnt equipment, the bodies of killed white people in military uniform, as well as possible prisoners.
According to reports, at least 82 mercenaries from the Wagner PMC were killed. Apart from the war in Ukraine, the Wagnerites have not had such simultaneous losses anywhere since February 2018, when Russian militants came under attack from the United States in Syria.

According to the Air Force, other sources and the militants themselves, it is known that several leading figures among the Wagnerites were killed in this battle, including the “commander of the 13th assault detachment” Sergei Shevchenko, as well as the administrator of the Gray Zone telegram channel Nikita Fedyanin, also known as “ White". It was this channel that was the most popular of those close to the Wagner PMC. The Russian convoy, which was actually ambushed, could also include one of the most famous commanders of the Wagner PMC, Anton Elizarov (“Lotus”), who participated in the capture of the Ukrainian city of Soledar and has the title of “Hero of Russia,” but there is no word yet on his fate accurate information.

Mali is the last area where the Wagner PMC maintained control and made profits, primarily from gold mining. Now a replacement for the Wagner Group with the Afrika Korps is being prepared in Russia according to the same principle and scenario as in Syria. The dispatch of the Afrika Korps and their complete replacement of the African control areas of the Wagner PMC will relieve at least one direction in the north of the Kharkov region, where this corps is now located, attacking Ukraine.

The Ukrainian Main Intelligence Directorate hinted that they provided information support to the Tuaregs in defeating the Avgnerites, and not only informational.
https://rubryka.com/ru/2024/07/29/prodovzhennya-bude-povstantsi-otrymaly-potribnu-informatsiyu-yusov-pro-rozgrom-vagnerivtsiv-u-mali/

The war in Ukraine continues...

From the beginning why did they go to war is because they don’t have compassion for people and the trauma people will go true before  and after the war. No matter how develop a country is there will always be marks and scars that people will not forget. I still can not see any tangible reason why countries want to go to war, maybe there is something they are not telling us. After every war their is always disruption in structures and economy because things won’t be that balance and everything will become expensive because only few will have it, which makes it scarce, countries benefiting from the countries that are at war or even doing business with them will all be on hold as a result of the war all this shows that going to war is bad.

As I explained already those groups are not "rebels" they are the remainder of ISIS and Al-Qaida (Al-Nusra) terrorists that Ukraine is helping.

You keep using the term rebel because all your arguments fall apart if you admit the truth...

A better question is why does Ukraine help the terrorist groups in another sovereign nation far away from its own borders?

But you like to write about double standards in relation to the outbreak of wars. You write that Russia sent its troops into Syria at the request of the government of Bashar al-Assad and this is completely legal, but if Ukraine supported the Syrian rebels, then it did so illegally.

How, in this case, can we characterize the invasion of the Russian military since 2014 into the Donetsk and Lugansk regions of Ukraine, since the Ukrainian government did not invite them, and the Russian military ended up on the territory of Ukraine, allegedly at the request of the Ukrainian “rebels”. In both cases, on your part, Russia is right and Ukraine is wrong.

By the way, how do you feel about the fact that in Mali the Tuareg rebels said that, as a sign of solidarity, they are ready to hand over to Ukraine dozens of Wagner soldiers who were recently captured by them.
“Dear Ukrainian brothers, we, the armed forces of the CSP-DPA, want to express our solidarity with your fight against Russian criminals. We have captured a significant number of Wagner mercenaries and want to hand over these prisoners to you as a sign of support and solidarity,” the message says. "This gesture is intended to help you in your fight for justice and freedom. We hope this will contribute to strengthening our ties and our common victory. With all our support, the CSP-DPA armed forces," their statement said .
https://world.comments.ua/news/africa/tuaregi-plenili-vagnerovcev-v-mali-teper-predlagayut-peredat-ih-ukraine-737685.amp

What are the Wagnerites, that is, Russian mercenaries sponsored by the Russian state, doing in Mali? Why did they flee the battlefield in Ukraine, where they lost 76,192 of their fellow soldiers?

What are they doing there? Let me see, they were officially invited by the legitimate government of Syria:


Meanwhile, your owners are illegally supporting rebels who oppose the legitimate president:


So, cut out your stupid whining "Russia supported Donbass rebels" while you're supporting the US intervention in the independent state.

War everywhere always has a bad impact, especially for countries in conflict, the economy is the main factor that has an impact on destruction, that's for sure, what's more, Russia is a bear country which has the largest gas reserves in the world, the country can revive some other top countries with gas and economy like Germany, Poland and others, if Russia makes crazy rules for other countries, if they support Ukraine, it is clear that the world economy will worsen, Russia currently has the power to tear up the world economy.

So it is not surprising that Russia's war with Ukraine will have an impact on the economy. The effects of the recent war between these two countries have had a huge impact on world economic growth, I hope that the two countries can make peace and live life as usual for the good of the global economy.

Russian forces are in Syria, at the request of the elected Syrian government. BTW, how come the NATO forces are there in Syria? Who invited them there? And who invited NATO troops to Libya and Yemen? Or for that matter Iraq or Niger? AFAIK, there are no instances of Russian troops in any foreign nation unless the (elected) government of that country requested for that. On the other hand, how can you explain the presence of NATO forces in 100 plus nations? Who asked NATO to play world police?

What, exactly, are the Russian military doing on Syrian territory? This is so far from their own borders.

Has Russia finally remembered that there are international laws and that attacking another state is not good from the point of view of these laws? This is the Russia that has been trying to seize the territory of Ukraine for more than ten years and has even included both captured and not completely captured territories of the Crimean peninsula, as well as the Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions of Ukraine into the borders of its state and is trying to destroy the Ukrainians there and Is everything Ukrainian? Don’t you think that this is precisely a gross violation of those international norms to which you refer, that it was Ukraine that violated them?

Tell this also to Georgia, where Russia, after the military invasion in 2008, seized and still holds part of the Georgian territories, as well as to Moldova, from where Russian troops have not been able to leave since the collapse of the USSR and, within the framework of the Transnistrian Republic, are terriorizing Moldova. Russia has always ignored any international laws and exclusively recognized force.

Calling ISIS and other Takfiri terrorists "Syrian rebels" doesn't change their nature and the cooperation between Ukraine and these terrorists has been to attack the Armed Forces of Syria in order to destabilize the country even more, specially in Western Syria to keep them busy domestically and prevent them from looking at occupied Golan heights. The part of Syria soil that is under occupation by another terrorist organization called Israel.

Bottom line is what HUR did here and in a lot of other cases is a clear violation of a dozen international laws and it was an act of war against another sovereign nation called Syria. Russia being there does not give Ukraine any permission to attack Syria forces specially when the attack is in coordination with the terrorists.

And what unusual did you see in the fact that the Ukrainian special forces of the Main Directorate of Military Intelligence of Ukraine (HUR), together with the Syrian rebels, destroyed the Russian military in Syria in March 2024? Even the article you are referring to indicates that in the fall of 2022, Russia had already transferred some troops and equipment from Syria to the Ukrainian battlefield, and previously these Russian units had already fought with the Ukrainians in Ukraine.

Russia attacked Ukraine, there is a long and bloody war going on and the Ukrainian Armed Forces have the right to destroy Russian military personnel anywhere in the world, and this article contains the words of the head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine Budanov, where he states exactly this. A. What are Russian troops doing in Syria, where there is a civil war?
Among other things, the Russians set up several recruitment centers there to send Syrian mercenaries to Ukraine. There, Syrian mercenaries are given Russian passports, and then they are mobilized into the Russian Armed Forces. Therefore, several times already among the prisoners captured by the Ukrainian Armed Forces there were Syrians who declared that they had been deceived. They were told that they would not fight, but would do other duties, but upon arrival in Ukraine they were almost immediately sent to the front in Ukraine.

They did keep that promise, the only problem was that the terrorist organization called Israel started a killing spree in Gaza and that genocide required a lot of ammunition so what was supposed to be sent to Ukraine was redirected to this terrorist organization instead.

And also volunteers from Daesh (aka ISIS) and other Takfiri terrorist groups like the rebranded Al-Qaida. These are members of the same terrorist groups that Ukraine is openly and shamelessly supporting and cooperating with inside Syria as well https://www.kyivpost.com/post/33695

The provision of financial and military assistance to Ukraine by various countries to repel an attack by Russia does not at all mean that these countries are fighting together with Ukraine against Russia. European countries pledged to supply Ukraine with one million shells, but never fulfilled their promise. At the same time, during this period, North Korea supplied Russia with about five million artillery shells. And we have been talking about Iranian drones that are launched every day from Russian territory for several years now. But this does not mean at all that Ukraine is also at war with North Korea and Iran.

The Armed Forces of Ukraine have volunteer units from Russia, Belarus, Georgia, European countries and other countries, but there are no regular army units of NATO countries on the territory of Ukraine. On the other hand, Russia itself is actively recruiting volunteers for the war with Ukraine all over the world, as evidenced by the recent outrage of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who arrived on an official visit to Russia.
https://www.dw.com/ru/rossia-razorvet-kontrakty-s-grazdanami-indii-vouusimi-v-ukraine/a-69604879

Poland has recently taken the initiative to form, equip and train Ukrainian citizens who went to Poland in connection with the Russian attack.
https://www.moscowtimes.ru/2024/05/31/polsha-predlozhila-podgotovit-podrazdelenie-izukrainskih-voennoobyazannih-prozhivayuschih-vstrane-a132593
This will be a good help to Ukraine.

Why go that far? Why not talk about Ukraine itself?
After all they've participated in a lot of illegal invasions and armed interventions in other countries from Kosovo to Iraq and Afghanistan.

The absurd thing is that 2 years ago when I asked them about it (specially DrTroll) they referred to the slaughter of over a million Iraqi civilians as a "peace keeping mission by Armed Forces of Ukraine".
It's of course an obvious double standard that I also pointed out a couple of days ago regarding @Ozero's statements about United Nations's uselessness.

BTW Zelenskyy is an openly Zionist person and fully supports the terrorism and genocide that Israel is committing in Palestine.

War is extremely bad for any country's economy sovereignty and livelihood. Not only warring countries but every country in the world faces economic threats. Because every country in the world is connected with other countries economically or diplomatically. No country in the world is self-sufficient and so if any country is affected the supply chain is affected. As a result the life of common people becomes difficult.

In reality, Russia is not fighting Ukraine, but the NATO. Thousands of mercenaries from NATO countries are fighting along with the Ukrainians, and advanced NATO weaponry such as F16, ATACMS and HIMARS have been given to Ukraine. And despite all this, Ukraine has been losing ground steadily for the last one year or so. And now the Ukrainian military commanders are crying that they are running out of manpower and they need to recruit among the refugees who are currently residing in foreign countries.

Russian Z-patriots cannot come to terms with the fact that all their military power has been stuck and worn down in Ukraine for the third year, which they planned to capture in a few days. To justify the virtually crushing defeat on a front with a total length of over a thousand kilometers, they came up with the excuse that they were fighting not with Ukrainians, but with all NATO members. The justification that they are being defeated by a stronger opponent calms them down a little.

 Other states are providing assistance to Ukraine, but military assistance is coming too slowly and in insufficient quantities. Therefore, Ukrainians bear the brunt of defending against Russian aggression in this war. At the end of last year and the beginning of this year, the United States did not provide military assistance to Ukraine for about eight months, and the occupiers wanted to take advantage of this, launching endless assaults along almost the entire front line. Ukraine was able to survive this time only thanks to its unmanned systems, and its naval drones, together with Ukrainian Neptune missiles, were able to destroy a third of the Russian Black Sea Fleet and forced Russia to hide its remains in Russian ports.

As for Israel, the International Criminal Court has already issued several warrants against its political and military leaders for excessive brutality in repelling an attack by Hamas. Therefore, Israel will also be responsible.

I think he meant the REAL sides of this conflict: Russia and USA. Nobody cares about this sockpuppet "country", the anti-Russia.  

And what about Israel? Should they be punished too for their war crimes?

Where do you see selfishness on the part of Ukraine in this war? A few weeks ago, Putin and his circle laid down conditions for the start of peace talks. They include the withdrawal of Ukraine's armed forces from four of its regions - Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporozhye, even though significant parts of the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions were never even occupied by Russia, which is more than 20 percent of the entire territory of Ukraine. In addition, Ukraine must continue to be non-aligned, that is, refuse to join NATO, and not have nuclear weapons. The armed forces of Ukraine should be greatly reduced, sanctions against Russia should be lifted and other nonsense, which would actually mean the capitulation of Ukraine.
https://www.dw.com/ru/putin-nazval-uslovia-dla-peregovorov-s-ukrainoj/a-69362526

In your opinion, is Ukraine showing selfishness in that it defends its freedom and independence and does not want to give up its territories along with its citizens to Russia to be torn to pieces? Would you agree to similar conditions for your country?

Russia must definitely be punished for its many crimes in Ukraine, and international law must be restored without any reservations, otherwise chaos and violence will engulf this world.

It's right. Russia's attack on Ukraine led to a sharp increase in defense spending in Europe, the United States and other countries, which realized that the precarious balance of world security had been upset. Many states began to provide assistance to Ukraine with weapons and military equipment, and they themselves developed a certain shortage of weapons.

In addition, this situation accelerated the rearmament of many countries, especially in Europe, where there were still Soviet weapons, which were primarily provided to Ukraine to protect against Russian invasion. In return, they acquired the latest models of NATO weapons, which showed good results in this war. Also, many countries began to refuse supplies of Russian weapons, which turned out to be worse than NATO ones, and to order purchases from NATO countries.

Due to the fact that Russia began to openly threaten many states with war, in particular the Baltic countries and Poland, they also began to increase the size of their army and military equipment. The military factories of the NATO countries are operating at full capacity and for many years to come.