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In 2015, the US Congress recognized Azov as an "openly neo-Nazi" and "fascist" battalion.

On the other points, I can provide similar direct evidence of my words, but I see no reason to throw pearls in front of a pig that openly justifies Nazism.

What a pathetic and stupid attempt at manipulation Smiley

Let's once again dip your face into your stupid lies, you seem to like it Smiley

And so - you want to give out the personal opinion of one person for "the US recognition of the Azov regiment as Nazi"
Are you serious ? Mr. CONYERS is this USA? Smiley

Do you really think that everyone here is as stupid as your environment, and will unconditionally believe in any scribbling? Smiley

Come on, let's bring the other points of "evidence", now we'll all laugh heartily from the "honest Russian" Smiley))

I recommend everyone to follow the link given by this system liar, study what kind of transcript it is, and try to find the section about the Azov battalion without searching Smiley

Clue. The title of the section is "Amendment Proposed by Mr. Conyers". No, not the recognition of the Azov Regiment as Nazi, but the "Amendment proposed by Mr. Conyers" Smiley

Well, back to the topic of the impact of this terrorist war on the world. You see how many primitive, stupid lies are now pouring out of the Russian media and their "pet dogs". You see what kind of influence they are trying to get over people's thoughts. You see how politicians are bought to justify RASHISM. Do you see what massive manipulation and lies are coming from Russia and its adherents? But it's easy to deal with it. IS IT TRUE ! The truth is what the "Russian world" is afraid of like the evil spirits of incense! Just speak the TRUTH, seek the TRUTH, share the TRUTH. And you don't have to look as stupid as the supporters of the Russian world!
By the way - information sabotage has one of the goals - economic destabilization, do not forget.

Look - these are real faces of the "Russian world". it is they who bring the "new world". But in the end, they only destroy, lie, destroy and steal. By the way, the economic terror by Russia against, for example, the EU, was organized long before the terrorist attack on Ukraine, and long before the imposition of sanctions - just study the history ...

You are trying in vain to present this as the private opinion of Mr. Conyers. He is the co-author and initiator of the amendment, for which all members of the US House of Representatives voted unanimously and it was adopted. And I gave a prooflink to the US Congress website, not to Mr. Conyers' personal blog. And from you in response, I hear only empty verbiage, behind which you are vainly trying to hide the lack of evidence and good arguments.

That's what he does as a typical troll. No sources, no proof but accusing everyone else of all mortal sins. Imagine, it turns out the guy was in the "territorial defense" and was wounded near Kiev in December 2022 (Russian army was nowhere near Kiev at that time but that's ok).  Grin

In fact a quick look at this liar's account activity shows that this couch warrior was spamming the shit out of this forum (posting at least 3-5 times a day) during that time. So, he is all fake and full of shit. He is a pathological liar and a troll.  Grin
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In 2015, the US Congress recognized Azov as an "openly neo-Nazi" and "fascist" battalion.

On the other points, I can provide similar direct evidence of my words, but I see no reason to throw pearls in front of a pig that openly justifies Nazism.

What a pathetic and stupid attempt at manipulation Smiley

Let's once again dip your face into your stupid lies, you seem to like it Smiley

And so - you want to give out the personal opinion of one person for "the US recognition of the Azov regiment as Nazi"
Are you serious ? Mr. CONYERS is this USA? Smiley

Do you really think that everyone here is as stupid as your environment, and will unconditionally believe in any scribbling? Smiley

Come on, let's bring the other points of "evidence", now we'll all laugh heartily from the "honest Russian" Smiley))

I recommend everyone to follow the link given by this system liar, study what kind of transcript it is, and try to find the section about the Azov battalion without searching Smiley

Clue. The title of the section is "Amendment Proposed by Mr. Conyers". No, not the recognition of the Azov Regiment as Nazi, but the "Amendment proposed by Mr. Conyers" Smiley

Well, back to the topic of the impact of this terrorist war on the world. You see how many primitive, stupid lies are now pouring out of the Russian media and their "pet dogs". You see what kind of influence they are trying to get over people's thoughts. You see how politicians are bought to justify RASHISM. Do you see what massive manipulation and lies are coming from Russia and its adherents? But it's easy to deal with it. IS IT TRUE ! The truth is what the "Russian world" is afraid of like the evil spirits of incense! Just speak the TRUTH, seek the TRUTH, share the TRUTH. And you don't have to look as stupid as the supporters of the Russian world!
By the way - information sabotage has one of the goals - economic destabilization, do not forget.

Look - these are real faces of the "Russian world". it is they who bring the "new world". But in the end, they only destroy, lie, destroy and steal. By the way, the economic terror by Russia against, for example, the EU, was organized long before the terrorist attack on Ukraine, and long before the imposition of sanctions - just study the history ...

You are trying in vain to present this as the private opinion of Mr. Conyers. He is the co-author and initiator of the amendment, for which all members of the US House of Representatives voted unanimously and it was adopted. And I gave a prooflink to the US Congress website, not to Mr. Conyers' personal blog. And from you in response, I hear only empty verbiage, behind which you are vainly trying to hide the lack of evidence and good arguments.
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The whole world economy is going through problems because of the war between the two countries. As far as we know, Ukraine is far ahead in wheat production. Until the war between the two countries is stopped, the import or export of anything from the two countries will have to be done with great risk. But this way  If it continues, it will cause a lot of problems for the people of all the countries, the prices of all the daily necessities will increase a lot.
Yes you are right  Just as Ukraine is a leader in wheat production, Russia plays a major role in supplying oil, gas, grains, etc. to the entire world.  As a result of the conflict between these two countries, our entire world is suffering in one way or another.  They should think about their own good and the good of the people of the world and settle this mutual conflict.
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War is a boomerang for the world economy, especially now that Russia and Ukraine are in dispute, where Russia is the most influential country in the world's oil sector, if their oil reproduction is hampered then it is certain that the economies of other countries on earth will also be hampered.

       One of the impacts felt is the increase in crude oil up to 50-80% per barrel, this will certainly increase the need for clothing and food as well as other needs.

        The Russian-Ukrainian war further exacerbated the situation of world wheat availability and prices. Without intervention in the form of substitutes, it turns out that rising wheat prices at the global level will reduce world economic growth. As we all know, wheat is one of the most consumed commodities and is the main raw material for making  staples that can make the world's population survive,

       It's a shame that both sides haven't found a bright spot for peace, hopefully in the near future the two countries can get rid of their selfishness, and can negotiate to end the war, because the impact is huge.
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Or maybe we'd better talk about the surge of neo-Nazism that has swept Ukraine? That the national heroes of Ukraine Bandera and Shukhevych are Nazis? The fact that the Nazi battalion Azov is quite officially part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine? The fact that Ukraine refuses to admit guilt for the massacre of Poles during the Volyn massacre? About the annual thousands of marches in Kyiv on Bandera's birthday with calls to kill Russians? Do not shift from a sick head to a healthy one, the brown plague is not in Russia, but in Ukraine.


Great topic, and let's discuss ? Smiley
But 2 conditions:
1. We remember that the terrorist attack of Russia in Ukraine was held under the slogan "defense of the Russian language". This was in 2014, then depending on failures, Russia changed the "reasons" to Nazism, mosquitoes, demilitarization, and other boraed.
2- You provide provable facts and we evaluate it. We compare scales, events, etc.

I'm ready, I answer:

1. Bandera and Shukhevych were nationalists, pro-Ukrainian. Perhaps you are confusing words ? But nationalist and Nazi are different, believe me Smiley  Your first statement is a pure lie Smiley
2.  "The Nazi battalion "Azov" is quite officially part of the AFU ?" - is Russian propaganda, nothing more. How can Azov be NAZISTS if they are destroying Rashism - Russian Nazism ?! Do you have any facts? Try to provide Smiley
3.  "The fact that Ukraine refuses to admit guilt for the massacre of Poles during the Volyn massacre ?" - The so-called "Volyn massacre" is a localized one, arising on national, mutual dislike, and mutual actions. Yes, the fact took place, it is silly to deny it, but it was preceded by other facts, which Russian propaganda for some reason forgets. But this is a national conflict, historical, and has nothing to do with Nazism. For example, Muscovy and Russia purposefully destroyed Ukrainians, their history, culture, language speakers, for many centuries. And now continues this business. The cause of Nazism under Vlasov's flags. Do you want to talk about how Russians served Nazi Germany, and destroyed Poles, Ukrainians, and other peoples? About Poles - how about September 17, 1939 ? And about the mass extermination of the inhabitants of Poland ?  And how the USSR and Germany started the destruction of European countries? Or is it different? 
4. "About the annual processions of many thousands in Kiev on Bandera's birthday with calls to kill Russians?". - lies again Smiley It is not Russians who are called to kill, but Russian aggressors - don't manipulate words Smiley. Yes, and one more thing - marches are not annual, and not as mass as for example in St. Petersburg or Moscow marches of neo-Nazis and Rashists. Can I show you a photo-video or can you find it yourself? Smiley

Here we go again, so beautifully started and so idiotic, and habitually shit himself in front of everyone  Grin Grin Grin Grin


In 2015, the US Congress recognized Azov as an "openly neo-Nazi" and "fascist" battalion.

On the other points, I can provide similar direct evidence of my words, but I see no reason to throw pearls in front of a pig that openly justifies Nazism.

What a pathetic and stupid attempt at manipulation Smiley

Let's once again dip your face into your stupid lies, you seem to like it Smiley

And so - you want to give out the personal opinion of one person for "the US recognition of the Azov regiment as Nazi"
Are you serious ? Mr. CONYERS is this USA? Smiley

Do you really think that everyone here is as stupid as your environment, and will unconditionally believe in any scribbling? Smiley

Come on, let's bring the other points of "evidence", now we'll all laugh heartily from the "honest Russian" Smiley))

I recommend everyone to follow the link given by this system liar, study what kind of transcript it is, and try to find the section about the Azov battalion without searching Smiley

Clue. The title of the section is "Amendment Proposed by Mr. Conyers". No, not the recognition of the Azov Regiment as Nazi, but the "Amendment proposed by Mr. Conyers" Smiley

Well, back to the topic of the impact of this terrorist war on the world. You see how many primitive, stupid lies are now pouring out of the Russian media and their "pet dogs". You see what kind of influence they are trying to get over people's thoughts. You see how politicians are bought to justify RASHISM. Do you see what massive manipulation and lies are coming from Russia and its adherents? But it's easy to deal with it. IS IT TRUE ! The truth is what the "Russian world" is afraid of like the evil spirits of incense! Just speak the TRUTH, seek the TRUTH, share the TRUTH. And you don't have to look as stupid as the supporters of the Russian world!
By the way - information sabotage has one of the goals - economic destabilization, do not forget.

Look - these are real faces of the "Russian world". it is they who bring the "new world". But in the end, they only destroy, lie, destroy and steal. By the way, the economic terror by Russia against, for example, the EU, was organized long before the terrorist attack on Ukraine, and long before the imposition of sanctions - just study the history ...
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For Russian and Ukraine war world economy wavering. Because Russia and USA Prohibition each other. As a result business are also restricted with them. And for this restriction others countries are could not  trade with others so big impact creating on economy in worldwide. Ukrain is big country for Wheat production. But they could not export that property so there creating big crisis worldwide. And also Russia is big exporter for gas but now many country could not buy it for restriction. So i think for Russian and Ukraine war directly and indirectly The world economy is suffering there has no doubt.
The whole world economy is going through problems because of the war between the two countries. As far as we know, Ukraine is far ahead in wheat production. Until the war between the two countries is stopped, the import or export of anything from the two countries will have to be done with great risk. But this way  If it continues, it will cause a lot of problems for the people of all the countries, the prices of all the daily necessities will increase a lot.

If this is just a war between Russia and Ukraine, the effects on the world economy will not be too great. But the war is no longer between the two countries, but between the US-led NATO and Russia. This is a war between the two most powerful forces in the world, so it will have a lot of influence and can cause more negative effects if not prevented soon.

And to be honest, I don't see any signs that the war will stop anytime soon because neither the US nor Russia have achieved their goals. We should prepare ourselves more as the war continues to drag on and may become more severe.
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For Russian and Ukraine war world economy wavering. Because Russia and USA Prohibition each other. As a result business are also restricted with them. And for this restriction others countries are could not  trade with others so big impact creating on economy in worldwide. Ukrain is big country for Wheat production. But they could not export that property so there creating big crisis worldwide. And also Russia is big exporter for gas but now many country could not buy it for restriction. So i think for Russian and Ukraine war directly and indirectly The world economy is suffering there has no doubt.
The whole world economy is going through problems because of the war between the two countries. As far as we know, Ukraine is far ahead in wheat production. Until the war between the two countries is stopped, the import or export of anything from the two countries will have to be done with great risk. But this way  If it continues, it will cause a lot of problems for the people of all the countries, the prices of all the daily necessities will increase a lot.
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I'm ready, I answer:

1. Bandera and Shukhevych were nationalists, pro-Ukrainian. Perhaps you are confusing words ? But nationalist and Nazi are different, believe me Smiley  Your first statement is a pure lie Smiley
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I do not believe you, you don't know the history of your own country well.

According to this CIA document, Stepan Bandera is a "Ukrainian fascist and Hitler's professional spy." Shukhevych was a Hauptmann (captain) of the Abwehr, served in the Nazi regiment "Brandenburg-800". Dozens of streets, avenues and squares in Ukraine have been named after Shukhevych and Bandera, and most of the renamings have already taken place in recent history.

ps Even the very common in Ukraine password-chant "Cлaвa Укpaинe! Гepoям Cлaвa!" is a paraphrase from the German password-greeting "Heil Hitler! Sieg Heil!" Grin


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The only real problem is your absolutely propaganda-damaged brains Smiley But it's good to have them at least Smiley

1. Tell me better, why in the USSR only 8 volumes of the 48 volumes of the Muremberg Trials were published?
Answer - because the remaining volumes contain documentary evidence that the INTERNATIONAL tribunal recognized UNA/UNSO/UPA and their leaders as a national liberation movement. And the rest is your fantasies and assumptions.

2. ""Long live Hitler!", "Glory to Hitler!"" - is a literal translation. It's a chant of the Fuhrer!
"Glory to Ukraine" is a glorification of the Motherland. "Glory to Heroes" is honor and respect for the heroes who gave their lives for its freedom.
And you should see a psychiatrist - you see Nazism everywhere. ...but you don't see it around you, in a country that has revived 21st century Nazism - Rashism !:)

Maybe let's remember it better:
- ""There will be Putin, there will be Russia"". - a copy of the Nazi slogan "There's Hitler, there's Germany".
- "Why do we need a world without Germany in it" and Putin: "Why do we need a world without Russia?".
- Hitlerjugent and Unarmia are twins.
- abduction and removal of children from occupied territories. A complete copy of the Nazi regime. For this, by the way, a certain Putin V.V. has been put on the international wanted list Smiley.
- Nazi Germany state propaganda and Russian state propaganda are twins !
- Rashism is a pathetic copy of Nazism, just study the description of the regimes.

I can give many more examples of the Kremlin's tracing of Nazi Germany, but I think you can find it yourself, familiarize yourself, and ... make up some more fairy tales about Ukraine Smiley But we know the TRUTH !



And let's return from the Rashist fantasies be.open, to the topic of the topic.....
A "friend" of the terrorist country, China has sharply reduced its oil purchases from Russia and Saudi Arabia. Beijing has reduced its purchases of Russian oil by 20% to the level of early 2022.
And a second "friend" followed China - India sharply reduced its purchases of Russian oil. Russian oil supplies fell 5.7 percent to 1.85 million barrels per day. At the same time, oil purchases from Saudi Arabia plummeted by 26 percent to 470,000 barrels per day, the lowest in two and a half years. India imports more than 80 percent of the country's oil consumption.

I think it's the impact of two factors:
- big problems in China's economy, where oil consumption is declining.
- temporary shutdown of refineries in India. Officially, "equipment maintenance". But there is other information, I hope that in the coming weeks it will become more reliable and will be officially published. And if it is confirmed - it looks like very soon salaries in Russia will be paid with oil Smiley


Wait, you're still here? Your Motherland wants you on the Eastern front! While your more brave compatriots are dying in Donbas, you're cowardly sitting in safety of your apartment and typing bullshit on an internet forum? Did you bribe the recruitment officer? Or still no conscription of mentally retarded?  Grin Grin Grin

Anyway, if everything is so grim for Russia, oil sales are declining, then why where I live gas prices are soaring? Please note I don't live in Russia, China or India. Perhaps you could provide a valid source? Wait, I know you're not going to, you never do. Most things happen in your imagination only.  Grin

As to the state propaganda, I can ensure you that Ukrainian propaganda is MUCH more similar to German nazi propaganda during WW2. Just read your own posts, that's a very good example of Ukrainian propaganda.

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it looks like very soon salaries in Russia will be paid with oil

In oil? Why not in rubles? It costs Putin nothing to pay in rubles, he's printing it.  Cool
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I'm ready, I answer:

1. Bandera and Shukhevych were nationalists, pro-Ukrainian. Perhaps you are confusing words ? But nationalist and Nazi are different, believe me Smiley  Your first statement is a pure lie Smiley
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I do not believe you, you don't know the history of your own country well.

According to this CIA document, Stepan Bandera is a "Ukrainian fascist and Hitler's professional spy." Shukhevych was a Hauptmann (captain) of the Abwehr, served in the Nazi regiment "Brandenburg-800". Dozens of streets, avenues and squares in Ukraine have been named after Shukhevych and Bandera, and most of the renamings have already taken place in recent history.

ps Even the very common in Ukraine password-chant "Cлaвa Укpaинe! Гepoям Cлaвa!" is a paraphrase from the German password-greeting "Heil Hitler! Sieg Heil!" Grin


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The only real problem is your absolutely propaganda-damaged brains Smiley But it's good to have them at least Smiley

1. Tell me better, why in the USSR only 8 volumes of the 48 volumes of the Muremberg Trials were published?
Answer - because the remaining volumes contain documentary evidence that the INTERNATIONAL tribunal recognized UNA/UNSO/UPA and their leaders as a national liberation movement. And the rest is your fantasies and assumptions.

2. ""Long live Hitler!", "Glory to Hitler!"" - is a literal translation. It's a chant of the Fuhrer!
"Glory to Ukraine" is a glorification of the Motherland. "Glory to Heroes" is honor and respect for the heroes who gave their lives for its freedom.
And you should see a psychiatrist - you see Nazism everywhere. ...but you don't see it around you, in a country that has revived 21st century Nazism - Rashism !:)

Maybe let's remember it better:
- ""There will be Putin, there will be Russia"". - a copy of the Nazi slogan "There's Hitler, there's Germany".
- "Why do we need a world without Germany in it" and Putin: "Why do we need a world without Russia?".
- Hitlerjugent and Unarmia are twins.
- abduction and removal of children from occupied territories. A complete copy of the Nazi regime. For this, by the way, a certain Putin V.V. has been put on the international wanted list Smiley.
- Nazi Germany state propaganda and Russian state propaganda are twins !
- Rashism is a pathetic copy of Nazism, just study the description of the regimes.

I can give many more examples of the Kremlin's tracing of Nazi Germany, but I think you can find it yourself, familiarize yourself, and ... make up some more fairy tales about Ukraine Smiley But we know the TRUTH !



And let's return from the Rashist fantasies be.open, to the topic of the topic.....
A "friend" of the terrorist country, China has sharply reduced its oil purchases from Russia and Saudi Arabia. Beijing has reduced its purchases of Russian oil by 20% to the level of early 2022.
And a second "friend" followed China - India sharply reduced its purchases of Russian oil. Russian oil supplies fell 5.7 percent to 1.85 million barrels per day. At the same time, oil purchases from Saudi Arabia plummeted by 26 percent to 470,000 barrels per day, the lowest in two and a half years. India imports more than 80 percent of the country's oil consumption.

I think it's the impact of two factors:
- big problems in China's economy, where oil consumption is declining.
- temporary shutdown of refineries in India. Officially, "equipment maintenance". But there is other information, I hope that in the coming weeks it will become more reliable and will be officially published. And if it is confirmed - it looks like very soon salaries in Russia will be paid with oil Smiley



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For Russian and Ukraine war world economy wavering. Because Russia and USA Prohibition each other. As a result business are also restricted with them. And for this restriction others countries are could not  trade with others so big impact creating on economy in worldwide. Ukrain is big country for Wheat production. But they could not export that property so there creating big crisis worldwide. And also Russia is big exporter for gas but now many country could not buy it for restriction. So i think for Russian and Ukraine war directly and indirectly The world economy is suffering there has no doubt.
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Now that Russia has entered a civil war (yes sorry russians killing russians even from Wagner is called a civil war) things are about to become wildly unpredictable. Hold on to your hats.

It's certainly not a civil war, the news coming from Russia are quite weird to say the least. Was Prigozhin aboard that plane? What happened to the plane. There was a second plane belonging to Prigozhin which turned around after the news about the disaster. There are more questions than answers...
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I'm ready, I answer:

1. Bandera and Shukhevych were nationalists, pro-Ukrainian. Perhaps you are confusing words ? But nationalist and Nazi are different, believe me Smiley  Your first statement is a pure lie Smiley
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I do not believe you, you don't know the history of your own country well.

According to this CIA document, Stepan Bandera is a "Ukrainian fascist and Hitler's professional spy." Shukhevych was a Hauptmann (captain) of the Abwehr, served in the Nazi regiment "Brandenburg-800". Dozens of streets, avenues and squares in Ukraine have been named after Shukhevych and Bandera, and most of the renamings have already taken place in recent history.

ps Even the very common in Ukraine password-chant "Cлaвa Укpaинe! Гepoям Cлaвa!" is a paraphrase from the German password-greeting "Heil Hitler! Sieg Heil!" Grin
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No, these guys definitely DO NOT look like nazis   Grin
Their masters from the other side of the pond are known to support any party which is anti-Russian. They basically don't care if the guys are nazis, skinheads, could even be baby-eating cannibals. If they are against Russia, they can be of some use to the masters and are getting unlimited support.  


I've been waiting for this one, or similar "photos" Smiley)))
Let's have a "real story" about a "crucified boy", the blood of Russian-speaking babies, and a nurse from Donetsk who "saved 50 wounded DNR fighters with her breasts and breastfed them with breast milk" Smiley) Well, if you make a clown show, you should do it from the heart, not this pathetic, almost daily, attempt to find something. It's really not clear what's in the photo... Yes, and it is not clear who ... But very much want to slip in the hope - and what if it will work, and someone will believe ... The only hope is that there is another meanderer like you on the forum  Grin Grin Grin

I'll tell you right away - you have chosen a VERY bad topic for a Russian:))))))) To be more precise, you again shit yourself in front of everyone.... Habitually  Grin


And now no photoshop, just a video from Russia Smiley

1. "Russia for Russians". "I am a Nazi." "Rusich". etc.... Translation + credits, you'll see what it's about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll2UOq4tFaQ
2. and a small photobroadcast, from St. Petersburg, Moscow....















PS I recommend everyone to type in Google the phrase "Haцизм в poccии", and "enjoy" the new homeland of Nazism, in photos, videos, where there are faces, names, real events and not this pathetic attempt serveria.com, to pass off wishful thinking.

Look - these are real faces of the "Russian world". it is they who bring the "new world". But in the end, they only destroy, lie, destroy and steal. By the way, the economic terror by Russia against, for example, the EU, was organized long before the terrorist attack on Ukraine, and long before the imposition of sanctions - just study the history ...
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I think I'll just leave this here:



No, these guys definitely DO NOT look like nazis   Grin

Their masters from the other side of the pond are known to support any party which is anti-Russian. They basically don't care if the guys are nazis, skinheads, could even be baby-eating cannibals. If they are against Russia, they can be of some use to the masters and are getting unlimited support. 

Anyone who wants to compromise the Armed Forces of Ukraine can take a picture with similar flags in camouflage and with a closed face. But if this is so, then in Russia one can see similar movements that are encouraged or openly exist with the tacit consent of the Russian authorities.

At the same time, in Ukraine, Article 436-1 was introduced into the criminal code, which provides for a prison term of up to ten years for the manufacture, distribution, and public use of symbols of the communist, national socialist (Nazi) totalitarian regimes.

If these guys are fighting against Russia, then it should be borne in mind that they are protecting their land from Russian military aggression and this is the right of any normal person. Russian troops came to Ukraine to rob, kill and rape women and children, destroy Ukrainian cities and villages, destroy the Ukrainian language and cultural heritage of Ukraine. That is, the Russian occupiers even surpassed the Nazis because, unlike the Russians, they did not seek to destroy the Ukrainians as a nation. Now there is not a single Ukrainian school left in the occupied part of Ukraine, Ukrainian textbooks have been destroyed, and the Ukrainian population is being forcibly Russified. Russia is trying to completely erase Ukraine as an independent state, but will get what it deserves.

Yes, movements and groups like these exist in pretty much every country, also the US. But we here are discussing Azov specifically. Unlike you and your friend DrBeer, other countries don't deny that they exist. Why do you always try to deny the obvious? If I were you (Ukrainian troll) I'd try to avoid such laughable claims as it's clear as day that you're exposing yourself, showing your bias and making it obvious that you're a troll/propagandist shill. Trolls have zero credibility and are made fun of. Think about it. Cool
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I think I'll just leave this here:



No, these guys definitely DO NOT look like nazis   Grin

Their masters from the other side of the pond are known to support any party which is anti-Russian. They basically don't care if the guys are nazis, skinheads, could even be baby-eating cannibals. If they are against Russia, they can be of some use to the masters and are getting unlimited support. 

Anyone who wants to compromise the Armed Forces of Ukraine can take a picture with similar flags in camouflage and with a closed face. But if this is so, then in Russia one can see similar movements that are encouraged or openly exist with the tacit consent of the Russian authorities.

At the same time, in Ukraine, Article 436-1 was introduced into the criminal code, which provides for a prison term of up to ten years for the manufacture, distribution, and public use of symbols of the communist, national socialist (Nazi) totalitarian regimes.

If these guys are fighting against Russia, then it should be borne in mind that they are protecting their land from Russian military aggression and this is the right of any normal person. Russian troops came to Ukraine to rob, kill and rape women and children, destroy Ukrainian cities and villages, destroy the Ukrainian language and cultural heritage of Ukraine. That is, the Russian occupiers even surpassed the Nazis because, unlike the Russians, they did not seek to destroy the Ukrainians as a nation. Now there is not a single Ukrainian school left in the occupied part of Ukraine, Ukrainian textbooks have been destroyed, and the Ukrainian population is being forcibly Russified. Russia is trying to completely erase Ukraine as an independent state, but will get what it deserves.
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We are currently living in a world based on alliances in almost all fields. BRICS is basically an economic alliance whose first goal was to facilitate exchanges between its member countries. It was not possible to cancel this alliance according to geopolitical variables, nor to hold one of its members accountable according to his position in international politics, and I mean here Russia, especially since the alliance includes China (in a trade war with the United States for years) and India (in an indirect war against The United States, which supports its regional enemy Pakistan), and Brazil (which adopts open economic policies contrary to the influence of the dollar) and the desire of other countries to join this alliance, who all want liberation from the authority of the United States that extends its influence (literally) on the global economy through policies She alone controls it.

In terms of economic union theory - I absolutely agree with you. This is an absolutely normal process, which allows, due to the "synergy" of the participants, to obtain the effect "1+1=3", as well as reducing risks for the economies of the participants of the union, due to the diversification of risks.

But there is another "side of the coin" here. Some, especially "cunning" participants of unions, begin to use them to solve their personal problems. And the best example is the BRICS attempt to use the yuan as the "BRICS dollar", with China's unconcealed attempts to de-dollarize the economies of its BRICS partners, but very cunningly. The concept is unique - you give up the dollar, take the yuan, and China will somehow figure out what to do with its dollar, the main thing is to take the yuan, and trade for it Smiley I hope you don't need to be told about the current problems in the Chinese economy ? And why the yuan is being so actively promoted in BRICS, I'm sure you understand ? if you know - India is now starting to pay Russia for Russian oil in .... YUAN! I will not tell you once again how India "screwed" Russia by buying oil for rupees, this is a scenario for a separate erotic-economic comedy Smiley But India realized where China was going, and refused to "import China's problems" to itself, through yuan. So it is not very correct to talk about a full-fledged, equal alliance here
If I did not know that the Chinese yuan suddenly became so important in the BRICS alliance, especially since all of the economies that make up the alliance have enough awareness of the danger of using the yuan (or any other currency) as an official currency for exchanges between them.
There is no problem in any country in the alliance trying to solve its problems with the help of the alliance, but this does not mean at all exporting its crises to the rest of the countries, and this, in my opinion, is the most important reason that prevents the BRICS from adopting the currency of one of the alliance countries as an official currency for exchanges among them.
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In 2015, the US Congress recognized Azov as an "openly neo-Nazi" and "fascist" battalion.

On the other points, I can provide similar direct evidence of my words, but I see no reason to throw pearls in front of a pig that openly justifies Nazism.
First, about the Azov division, let's turn to Wikipedia as an impartial publication. It is written there:
The Azov Brigade (Ukrainian Azov Brigade), previously known as the Azov Battalion and the Azov Regiment (Ukrainian Azov Regiment), is a tactical formation of the National Guard of Ukraine. During the battles for Mariupol in 2022, the formation was referred to as the "separate special forces detachment" Azov "" (Ukr. Okremiy zagin special recognition "Azov") as part of the military unit 3057 (12th operational brigade of the NGU) of the Eastern Operational-Territorial Association National Guard of Ukraine.

The unit was formed in May 2014 in Mariupol from volunteers, football hooligans, and far-right extremists who banded together to fight Moscow-backed pro-Russian armed groups that organized the secession of two separatist regions in eastern Ukraine in 2014. Azov rose to prominence in June 2014 after the liberation of Mariupol, which was captured by Russian-backed separatists. "Azov" was formed as a battalion of the special police patrol service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, in September 2014 it was deployed into a regiment, in November 2014 it was transferred to the National Guard of Ukraine. Azov was one of the most famous Ukrainian military formations, fighting in 2022 alongside the Ukrainian army against Russian forces in the east of the country. Many Azov troops were taken prisoner by Russian forces when, after a nearly three-month siege, Russian troops captured Mariupol in May.

The unit and its members are associated with the far right, and have previously been associated with neo-Nazi ideology. Its participants are also suspected of violating human rights during the war in Donbass.

  On August 2, 2022, the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation recognized the Azov Regiment as a terrorist and extremist organization, completely banning its activities in Russia. Russian President Putin referred to the presence of such units in the armed forces of Ukraine as one of the reasons for the invasion of Ukraine "in order to ... demilitarize and denazify Ukraine." Ukraine and its allies say Putin's announcement is a blatant pretext for aggressive war.

Russian propaganda often uses "Azov" as a symbol of neo-Nazism allegedly dominant in Ukraine and that Ukraine is controlled by "fascists". Azov has changed significantly since 2014, when the battalion was formed from football hooligans and far-right extremists. Azov was included in the National Guard, significant attention was paid to the cleansing of far-right elements, and in 2022 Azov is an example of successful de-radicalization. Numerous experts point out that the modern "Azov" is a typical combat brigade and refute the myth about the "Nazis" Azov "".

On my own behalf, I will add that the military unit "AZOV" has never been and is not now Nazi in its ideology. This unit is an example of the courage, resilience and heroism of the Ukrainian people, which, completely surrounded in Mariupol, from March 18 to May 20, 2022, repulsed all attacks of the Russian invaders many times superior to them and significantly complicated the Russian offensive against Ukraine from the south. It is for this that Russian propaganda seeks to discredit Azov. Only because of the lack of ammunition, food, medicines and even water, taking into account the hundreds of seriously wounded, and also after a direct order from the President of Ukraine, their remnants surrendered. But the Russians themselves were surprised that there were no Nazi tattoos on the "Azov" people, there were no outright Nazi views or actions. And Russia, believe me, tried to reveal it. As a result, more than a hundred Azovites were burned alive by the Russians in the Olenovka colony, where they were held captive, using thermobaric ammunition against the prisoners. This just can be considered Russian Nazism.

History will eventually put everything in its place. And in it there is a place for Ukrainian heroes from the Azov regiment. If someone has specific facts of the manifestation of Nazism on the part of the Azov unit, we can discuss this.
Haha, lol dude. Here is a video with Nazi tattoos of Azov fighters taken prisoner in Mariupol - there are portraits of Hitler, swastikas, 1488 and more in stock. The Ukrainian Nazis did not even have the imagination to come up with their own symbols and simply copied the symbols of the Third Reich. And all Western armored vehicles supplied to Ukraine are decorated with Wehrmacht crosses from the Second World War. So eat that shit yourself.


I think I'll just leave this here:



No, these guys definitely DO NOT look like nazis   Grin

Their masters from the other side of the pond are known to support any party which is anti-Russian. They basically don't care if the guys are nazis, skinheads, could even be baby-eating cannibals. If they are against Russia, they can be of some use to the masters and are getting unlimited support. 
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In 2015, the US Congress recognized Azov as an "openly neo-Nazi" and "fascist" battalion.

On the other points, I can provide similar direct evidence of my words, but I see no reason to throw pearls in front of a pig that openly justifies Nazism.
First, about the Azov division, let's turn to Wikipedia as an impartial publication. It is written there:
The Azov Brigade (Ukrainian Azov Brigade), previously known as the Azov Battalion and the Azov Regiment (Ukrainian Azov Regiment), is a tactical formation of the National Guard of Ukraine. During the battles for Mariupol in 2022, the formation was referred to as the "separate special forces detachment" Azov "" (Ukr. Okremiy zagin special recognition "Azov") as part of the military unit 3057 (12th operational brigade of the NGU) of the Eastern Operational-Territorial Association National Guard of Ukraine.

The unit was formed in May 2014 in Mariupol from volunteers, football hooligans, and far-right extremists who banded together to fight Moscow-backed pro-Russian armed groups that organized the secession of two separatist regions in eastern Ukraine in 2014. Azov rose to prominence in June 2014 after the liberation of Mariupol, which was captured by Russian-backed separatists. "Azov" was formed as a battalion of the special police patrol service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, in September 2014 it was deployed into a regiment, in November 2014 it was transferred to the National Guard of Ukraine. Azov was one of the most famous Ukrainian military formations, fighting in 2022 alongside the Ukrainian army against Russian forces in the east of the country. Many Azov troops were taken prisoner by Russian forces when, after a nearly three-month siege, Russian troops captured Mariupol in May.

The unit and its members are associated with the far right, and have previously been associated with neo-Nazi ideology. Its participants are also suspected of violating human rights during the war in Donbass.

  On August 2, 2022, the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation recognized the Azov Regiment as a terrorist and extremist organization, completely banning its activities in Russia. Russian President Putin referred to the presence of such units in the armed forces of Ukraine as one of the reasons for the invasion of Ukraine "in order to ... demilitarize and denazify Ukraine." Ukraine and its allies say Putin's announcement is a blatant pretext for aggressive war.

Russian propaganda often uses "Azov" as a symbol of neo-Nazism allegedly dominant in Ukraine and that Ukraine is controlled by "fascists". Azov has changed significantly since 2014, when the battalion was formed from football hooligans and far-right extremists. Azov was included in the National Guard, significant attention was paid to the cleansing of far-right elements, and in 2022 Azov is an example of successful de-radicalization. Numerous experts point out that the modern "Azov" is a typical combat brigade and refute the myth about the "Nazis" Azov "".

On my own behalf, I will add that the military unit "AZOV" has never been and is not now Nazi in its ideology. This unit is an example of the courage, resilience and heroism of the Ukrainian people, which, completely surrounded in Mariupol, from March 18 to May 20, 2022, repulsed all attacks of the Russian invaders many times superior to them and significantly complicated the Russian offensive against Ukraine from the south. It is for this that Russian propaganda seeks to discredit Azov. Only because of the lack of ammunition, food, medicines and even water, taking into account the hundreds of seriously wounded, and also after a direct order from the President of Ukraine, their remnants surrendered. But the Russians themselves were surprised that there were no Nazi tattoos on the "Azov" people, there were no outright Nazi views or actions. And Russia, believe me, tried to reveal it. As a result, more than a hundred Azovites were burned alive by the Russians in the Olenovka colony, where they were held captive, using thermobaric ammunition against the prisoners. This just can be considered Russian Nazism.

History will eventually put everything in its place. And in it there is a place for Ukrainian heroes from the Azov regiment. If someone has specific facts of the manifestation of Nazism on the part of the Azov unit, we can discuss this.
Haha, lol dude. Here is a video with Nazi tattoos of Azov fighters taken prisoner in Mariupol - there are portraits of Hitler, swastikas, 1488 and more in stock. The Ukrainian Nazis did not even have the imagination to come up with their own symbols and simply copied the symbols of the Third Reich. And all Western armored vehicles supplied to Ukraine are decorated with Wehrmacht crosses from the Second World War. So eat that shit yourself.
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In 2015, the US Congress recognized Azov as an "openly neo-Nazi" and "fascist" battalion.

On the other points, I can provide similar direct evidence of my words, but I see no reason to throw pearls in front of a pig that openly justifies Nazism.
First, about the Azov division, let's turn to Wikipedia as an impartial publication. It is written there:
The Azov Brigade (Ukrainian Azov Brigade), previously known as the Azov Battalion and the Azov Regiment (Ukrainian Azov Regiment), is a tactical formation of the National Guard of Ukraine. During the battles for Mariupol in 2022, the formation was referred to as the "separate special forces detachment" Azov "" (Ukr. Okremiy zagin special recognition "Azov") as part of the military unit 3057 (12th operational brigade of the NGU) of the Eastern Operational-Territorial Association National Guard of Ukraine.

The unit was formed in May 2014 in Mariupol from volunteers, football hooligans, and far-right extremists who banded together to fight Moscow-backed pro-Russian armed groups that organized the secession of two separatist regions in eastern Ukraine in 2014. Azov rose to prominence in June 2014 after the liberation of Mariupol, which was captured by Russian-backed separatists. "Azov" was formed as a battalion of the special police patrol service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, in September 2014 it was deployed into a regiment, in November 2014 it was transferred to the National Guard of Ukraine. Azov was one of the most famous Ukrainian military formations, fighting in 2022 alongside the Ukrainian army against Russian forces in the east of the country. Many Azov troops were taken prisoner by Russian forces when, after a nearly three-month siege, Russian troops captured Mariupol in May.

The unit and its members are associated with the far right, and have previously been associated with neo-Nazi ideology. Its participants are also suspected of violating human rights during the war in Donbass.

  On August 2, 2022, the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation recognized the Azov Regiment as a terrorist and extremist organization, completely banning its activities in Russia. Russian President Putin referred to the presence of such units in the armed forces of Ukraine as one of the reasons for the invasion of Ukraine "in order to ... demilitarize and denazify Ukraine." Ukraine and its allies say Putin's announcement is a blatant pretext for aggressive war.

Russian propaganda often uses "Azov" as a symbol of neo-Nazism allegedly dominant in Ukraine and that Ukraine is controlled by "fascists". Azov has changed significantly since 2014, when the battalion was formed from football hooligans and far-right extremists. Azov was included in the National Guard, significant attention was paid to the cleansing of far-right elements, and in 2022 Azov is an example of successful de-radicalization. Numerous experts point out that the modern "Azov" is a typical combat brigade and refute the myth about the "Nazis" Azov "".

On my own behalf, I will add that the military unit "AZOV" has never been and is not now Nazi in its ideology. This unit is an example of the courage, resilience and heroism of the Ukrainian people, which, completely surrounded in Mariupol, from March 18 to May 20, 2022, repulsed all attacks of the Russian invaders many times superior to them and significantly complicated the Russian offensive against Ukraine from the south. It is for this that Russian propaganda seeks to discredit Azov. Only because of the lack of ammunition, food, medicines and even water, taking into account the hundreds of seriously wounded, and also after a direct order from the President of Ukraine, their remnants surrendered. But the Russians themselves were surprised that there were no Nazi tattoos on the "Azov" people, there were no outright Nazi views or actions. And Russia, believe me, tried to reveal it. As a result, more than a hundred Azovites were burned alive by the Russians in the Olenovka colony, where they were held captive, using thermobaric ammunition against the prisoners. This just can be considered Russian Nazism.

History will eventually put everything in its place. And in it there is a place for Ukrainian heroes from the Azov regiment. If someone has specific facts of the manifestation of Nazism on the part of the Azov unit, we can discuss this.
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Or maybe we'd better talk about the surge of neo-Nazism that has swept Ukraine? That the national heroes of Ukraine Bandera and Shukhevych are Nazis? The fact that the Nazi battalion Azov is quite officially part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine? The fact that Ukraine refuses to admit guilt for the massacre of Poles during the Volyn massacre? About the annual thousands of marches in Kyiv on Bandera's birthday with calls to kill Russians? Do not shift from a sick head to a healthy one, the brown plague is not in Russia, but in Ukraine.


Great topic, and let's discuss ? Smiley
But 2 conditions:
1. We remember that the terrorist attack of Russia in Ukraine was held under the slogan "defense of the Russian language". This was in 2014, then depending on failures, Russia changed the "reasons" to Nazism, mosquitoes, demilitarization, and other boraed.
2- You provide provable facts and we evaluate it. We compare scales, events, etc.

I'm ready, I answer:

1. Bandera and Shukhevych were nationalists, pro-Ukrainian. Perhaps you are confusing words ? But nationalist and Nazi are different, believe me Smiley  Your first statement is a pure lie Smiley
2.  "The Nazi battalion "Azov" is quite officially part of the AFU ?" - is Russian propaganda, nothing more. How can Azov be NAZISTS if they are destroying Rashism - Russian Nazism ?! Do you have any facts? Try to provide Smiley
3.  "The fact that Ukraine refuses to admit guilt for the massacre of Poles during the Volyn massacre ?" - The so-called "Volyn massacre" is a localized one, arising on national, mutual dislike, and mutual actions. Yes, the fact took place, it is silly to deny it, but it was preceded by other facts, which Russian propaganda for some reason forgets. But this is a national conflict, historical, and has nothing to do with Nazism. For example, Muscovy and Russia purposefully destroyed Ukrainians, their history, culture, language speakers, for many centuries. And now continues this business. The cause of Nazism under Vlasov's flags. Do you want to talk about how Russians served Nazi Germany, and destroyed Poles, Ukrainians, and other peoples? About Poles - how about September 17, 1939 ? And about the mass extermination of the inhabitants of Poland ?  And how the USSR and Germany started the destruction of European countries? Or is it different? 
4. "About the annual processions of many thousands in Kiev on Bandera's birthday with calls to kill Russians?". - lies again Smiley It is not Russians who are called to kill, but Russian aggressors - don't manipulate words Smiley. Yes, and one more thing - marches are not annual, and not as mass as for example in St. Petersburg or Moscow marches of neo-Nazis and Rashists. Can I show you a photo-video or can you find it yourself? Smiley

Here we go again, so beautifully started and so idiotic, and habitually shit himself in front of everyone  Grin Grin Grin Grin


In 2015, the US Congress recognized Azov as an "openly neo-Nazi" and "fascist" battalion.

On the other points, I can provide similar direct evidence of my words, but I see no reason to throw pearls in front of a pig that openly justifies Nazism.
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