Pages:
Author

Topic: The impact of Russian and Ukrain war on world economy - page 3. (Read 13382 times)

legendary
Activity: 2422
Merit: 1191
Privacy Servers. Since 2009.
During Putin's visit to Vietnam in June 2024, Putin said that in the event of Russia's strategic defeat in Ukraine, Russia is allegedly ready to take the most extreme measures.
"For Russia, this means the end of its statehood. This means the end of the thousand-year history of the Russian state. I think this is clear to everyone. And then the question arises: why should we be afraid? Isn't it better to go to the end? This is elementary formal logic," he said.
https://nv.ua/world/geopolitics/ugrozy-putina-diktator-snova-pugal-yadernym-oruzhiem-v-sluchae-porazheniya-v-ukraine-50428889.html
How many times I have asked you not to use Ukrainian propaganda outlets as sources? During war, do you expect the media of the war-affected country to be objective to the enemy? Don't get ridiculous!

As to what Putin meant, it's about direct confrontation with NATO ground forces. Only in that case Russia can be defeated. Russia can't be defeated by Ukraine alone, it's impossible. In fact, Ukraine has already lost this war.  

With the thousand-year history of the Russian state, Putin, of course, lied.
But perhaps you can comment on what Putin was threatening here if Ukraine continues to resist military aggression and the Russian army continues to suffer military defeats in Ukraine?

OMG, hilarious!  Grin Grin Grin So, in your parallel universe Russian army suffers military defeats in Ukraine?  Grin Grin Grin
sr. member
Activity: 2464
Merit: 252
Also, the tactic of cowards is the constant intimidation of both Ukrainians and the entire civilized world by the fact that if Ukrainians continue to resist destruction or if other countries provide Ukraine with assistance with conventional weapons, then Russia will use nuclear weapons. This intimidation cannot work, because in this case, the maddened Putin will seize one state after another with impunity, waving a nuclear baton. Such military actions against neighboring states in the 21st century can really lead to a nuclear apocalypse if Putin and his entourage are not stopped in time. After all, it is not only Russia that has nuclear weapons.
That's not true. Russia only said they might use the nukes if NATO uses long-range missiles on targets in Russia (as Ukrainian military can't operate such weapons they will be operated by NATO personnel thus NATO will be considered side of the conflict). If Russia wanted to use nukes, they would have used them long ago. But there is no winner in a nuclear war, only losers.

Our planet is in danger not because individual states are trying to defend their independence from military invasion by an aggressive neighbor, but because aggressors like Russia, when attacking, threaten to use nuclear weapons as well.
Russia has never threatened to attack anyone with nukes, just defend itself, if it's own territory is in danger (like in case of a retarded suicidal attack on Kursk region).


During Putin's visit to Vietnam in June 2024, Putin said that in the event of Russia's strategic defeat in Ukraine, Russia is allegedly ready to take the most extreme measures.
"For Russia, this means the end of its statehood. This means the end of the thousand-year history of the Russian state. I think this is clear to everyone. And then the question arises: why should we be afraid? Isn't it better to go to the end? This is elementary formal logic," he said.
https://nv.ua/world/geopolitics/ugrozy-putina-diktator-snova-pugal-yadernym-oruzhiem-v-sluchae-porazheniya-v-ukraine-50428889.html

With the thousand-year history of the Russian state, Putin, of course, lied.
But perhaps you can comment on what Putin was threatening here if Ukraine continues to resist military aggression and the Russian army continues to suffer military defeats in Ukraine?
legendary
Activity: 2422
Merit: 1191
Privacy Servers. Since 2009.
Also, the tactic of cowards is the constant intimidation of both Ukrainians and the entire civilized world by the fact that if Ukrainians continue to resist destruction or if other countries provide Ukraine with assistance with conventional weapons, then Russia will use nuclear weapons. This intimidation cannot work, because in this case, the maddened Putin will seize one state after another with impunity, waving a nuclear baton. Such military actions against neighboring states in the 21st century can really lead to a nuclear apocalypse if Putin and his entourage are not stopped in time. After all, it is not only Russia that has nuclear weapons.
That's not true. Russia only said they might use the nukes if NATO uses long-range missiles on targets in Russia (as Ukrainian military can't operate such weapons they will be operated by NATO personnel thus NATO will be considered side of the conflict). If Russia wanted to use nukes, they would have used them long ago. But there is no winner in a nuclear war, only losers.

Our planet is in danger not because individual states are trying to defend their independence from military invasion by an aggressive neighbor, but because aggressors like Russia, when attacking, threaten to use nuclear weapons as well.
Russia has never threatened to attack anyone with nukes, just defend itself, if it's own territory is in danger (like in case of a retarded suicidal attack on Kursk region).

Anyway, Russians continue their advances in Donbas: today they have captured the town of Ukrainsk and the village Lesovka. Ukraine has lost these territories without a chance to regain, they will never belong to Ukraine again.

AFU also hastily withdrew from a number of villages near Kurakhove: Berestki, Novoselidovka, Ilyinka. The end of this war is near.  
sr. member
Activity: 2464
Merit: 252

Ukraine has lost the war, it's pretty clear already. NATO are considering direct confrontation with Russia as a last chance to turn the tide. Very foolish idea and a road to nuclear apocalypse. Our planet is in extreme danger and only because some crazy guys like Blinken and Biden Jr want to secure their investments in Ukraine. C'mon guys, let go, it's over. Money is not worth dying for in nuclear flames.

The "Second Army of Peace" has been attacking Ukraine for three years now, using all possible military means except nuclear weapons. Even taking into account the seizure of Crimea and parts of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions in 2014, this is only 27 percent of Ukraine. Russia cannot defeat Ukraine on the battlefield, so every day it bombs the entire territory of Ukraine with missiles and drones, mainly targeting energy and other civilian facilities, or simply residential buildings of Ukrainians to intimidate them. This is the tactic of cowards and terrorists.

Also, the tactic of cowards is the constant intimidation of both Ukrainians and the entire civilized world by the fact that if Ukrainians continue to resist destruction or if other countries provide Ukraine with assistance with conventional weapons, then Russia will use nuclear weapons. This intimidation cannot work, because in this case, the maddened Putin will seize one state after another with impunity, waving a nuclear baton. Such military actions against neighboring states in the 21st century can really lead to a nuclear apocalypse if Putin and his entourage are not stopped in time. After all, it is not only Russia that has nuclear weapons.

Our planet is in danger not because individual states are trying to defend their independence from military invasion by an aggressive neighbor, but because aggressors like Russia, when attacking, threaten to use nuclear weapons as well.

legendary
Activity: 3122
Merit: 1102
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
World economy

This is hard time for economy to survive what is your thinking about the collapsing of world economy with highing inflation.
We'll I think it's affecting most countries a whole lot and if this continues we can't really tell what will become of the world economy because due to this there's a high rate of things and it's affecting the market as well.
Insurgency, disaster, war and so on are huge effect of economic crisis and if care's not taken things might skyrocket to some level leaving no one with any options and this is majorly caused by the war between Ukraine and Russian.

Honestly there's no positive impacts on them to the world or the economy rather everything keeps depreciating,inflation is in the rise,everything just keeps going higher due to the fact that it's been affected highly by the war between the two allies.i just get sucked with all of this as it's not favourable to the nation and economy.

As we can see, this ongoing war has affected the world in so many aspects. We may not feel it as individuals, but I believe it has impact in the economy especially neighboring countries and countries which have direct relation with Ukraine and Russia, like the import and export of their respective products.
Below are just of the major impact of this war to the world -
> supply chain disruptions
> food security and affordability
> humanitarian crises
> catastrophic damage to civilian infrastructures
> millions of refugees
> and most of all about 23000 casualties and counting...

Source : Ukraine war: What are the impacts on the world today?
legendary
Activity: 2422
Merit: 1191
Privacy Servers. Since 2009.
Of course, for a wild and authoritarian country like Russia, where any issues are still decided by the tsars, no matter what positions they formally and officially hold, the events that took place in Ukraine at the end of 2013 and the beginning of 2014 are something unusual and blasphemous. But for a democratic state, this is natural.
Last time I checked Russia was a democratic country with president being elected by popular vote, there's also parliament (the Duma) with legislative powers. What tsars and authoritarian rule are you talking about, troll?

Let me remind you that according to Article 5 of the Constitution of Ukraine, the people are the bearer of sovereignty and the only source of power in the country. The right to determine and change the constitutional structure belongs exclusively to the people, who are given the right to directly influence any government bodies or their officials. Therefore, when the pro-Russian President of Ukraine Yanukovych went against the will of the people and refused to sign the Association Agreement with the European Union, and also gave the order to kill his citizens who came out to protest, the people exercised their constitutional right. Moreover, no one removed Yanukovych from power. He himself shamefully and secretly fled the country to Russia, afraid of responsibility for what he had done in Ukraine.
... and people belong to the US (Nuland's cookies). There were snipers shooting at the police officers (paid by the CIA) and I'm sure Yanukovych was the ultimate target of these US sockpuppets that's why he had to flee to save his life.

Zelensky was elected as a result of direct and democratic elections of the entire people. 73.22% of voters cast their votes for him, and 24.45% for his opponent Poroshenko. In the run-up to the elections, Zelensky and Poroshenko held open debates at the Olympic Stadium in Kyiv, which simply cannot happen in Russia. International observers confirmed that Zelensky's elections in April 2019 were democratic, peaceful, and corresponded to the will of the people. Therefore, your claims that Zelensky came to power in Ukraine unconstitutionally are a lie.
OMG, are you really that naïve or just retarded? Poroshenko was the first president after Maidan, he is definitely pro-US and Zelensky is certainly pro-US too. So there you go, you're getting the illusion of choice, the illusion of democracy. Very similar to the US democrats vs republicans thing. Both candidates share the same views, it's like Putin debating with Medvedev at a stadium in Moscow.  Grin You see the difference my little retarded friend?

The people of Ukraine also support the activities of President Zelensky in organizing the defense of Ukraine's sovereignty from Russian military aggression.
Yeah, I believe you. I've seen these videos on Telegram and Youtube how eager citizens of Ukraine can't wait to join the AFU on the frontline. Drafting officers are beating them up and throwing into vans and sending to Donbas immediately.

Anyway, AFU are getting their asses kicked in Kursk region. Today Russians have liberated Borki village in the East. I guess their plan is to completely encircle the AFU units in Kursk region and cut them off the border. Then the remaining units will be destroyed or will eventually surrender.  

Ukraine has lost the war, it's pretty clear already. NATO are considering direct confrontation with Russia as a last chance to turn the tide. Very foolish idea and a road to nuclear apocalypse. Our planet is in extreme danger and only because some crazy guys like Blinken and Biden Jr want to secure their investments in Ukraine. C'mon guys, let go, it's over. Money is not worth dying for in nuclear flames.
sr. member
Activity: 2464
Merit: 252
As always for you I will give you training, and give you new knowledge, without which you habitually suffer and also habitually look stupid Smiley As always don't thank me Smiley

1. hunta - a political group that came to power unconstitutionally and exercises dictatorial rule by terror.

1. By unconstitutional means (by rewriting the constitution and rigging elections all the time and using resources)
2. Dictatorial rule by terror - from bombing houses in russia in 1999 to terrorist strikes with ballistic weapons on hospitals, schools, kindergartens, houses with civilians, using banned weapons, etc.
This is exactly what Zelensky's gang is... they came to power as a result of the US masterminded and sponsored Maidan "revolution".


Of course, for a wild and authoritarian country like Russia, where any issues are still decided by the tsars, no matter what positions they formally and officially hold, the events that took place in Ukraine at the end of 2013 and the beginning of 2014 are something unusual and blasphemous. But for a democratic state, this is natural.

Let me remind you that according to Article 5 of the Constitution of Ukraine, the people are the bearer of sovereignty and the only source of power in the country. The right to determine and change the constitutional structure belongs exclusively to the people, who are given the right to directly influence any government bodies or their officials. Therefore, when the pro-Russian President of Ukraine Yanukovych went against the will of the people and refused to sign the Association Agreement with the European Union, and also gave the order to kill his citizens who came out to protest, the people exercised their constitutional right. Moreover, no one removed Yanukovych from power. He himself shamefully and secretly fled the country to Russia, afraid of responsibility for what he had done in Ukraine.

Zelensky was elected as a result of direct and democratic elections of the entire people. 73.22% of voters cast their votes for him, and 24.45% for his opponent Poroshenko. In the run-up to the elections, Zelensky and Poroshenko held open debates at the Olympic Stadium in Kyiv, which simply cannot happen in Russia. International observers confirmed that Zelensky's elections in April 2019 were democratic, peaceful, and corresponded to the will of the people. Therefore, your claims that Zelensky came to power in Ukraine unconstitutionally are a lie.

The people of Ukraine also support the activities of President Zelensky in organizing the defense of Ukraine's sovereignty from Russian military aggression.
sr. member
Activity: 546
Merit: 268
It goes without saying that the impact of the war between Russia and Ukraine has reached the entire world.  It is natural that countries that have trade relations with Ukraine and Russia will face massive economic disruption. It becomes very difficult to properly conclude a trade agreement with a war-torn country. Finally, when a country enters into a direct trade agreement with Russia and imports goods, the effects of the war will certainly be with that country. If the products are not delivered on time, there will definitely be a shortage of those products in the global market and there is a possibility of a huge price increase later on. My country imports oil from Russia and my country only because of the war has increased the price of oil more than before because of the effect of the war in Ukraine and Russia.
legendary
Activity: 2422
Merit: 1191
Privacy Servers. Since 2009.
As always for you I will give you training, and give you new knowledge, without which you habitually suffer and also habitually look stupid Smiley As always don't thank me Smiley

1. hunta - a political group that came to power unconstitutionally and exercises dictatorial rule by terror.

1. By unconstitutional means (by rewriting the constitution and rigging elections all the time and using resources)
2. Dictatorial rule by terror - from bombing houses in russia in 1999 to terrorist strikes with ballistic weapons on hospitals, schools, kindergartens, houses with civilians, using banned weapons, etc.
This is exactly what Zelensky's gang is... they came to power as a result of the US masterminded and sponsored Maidan "revolution".


If someone does not believe - I will give a huge amount of video materials where local residents meet liberators from the AFU, thank them, and the AFU help the victims of the Kremlin junta with everything - from medicines to clothes and food.
So stop your usual, stupid propaganda Smiley
Would be nice if you could provide at least one such video. Thanks in advance. Btw, AFU were instructed to shoot any civilians who wouldn't listen to orders or show some resistance (according to Ukrainian military who surrendered to the Russian forces).


PS As of today the AFU has already liberated more than 2000 square kilometers from the Kremlin junta, and this is only for 3 weeks ! In 3 weeks the AFU has gained control over the territory many times larger than the Russian terrorist army in Ukraine ! Smiley

AFU are getting their ass kicked in Kursk region. Russians have liberated some 10-15 villages including:  Apanasovka, Byahovo, Vishnevka, Viktorovka, Vnezapnoe, Gordeevka, Krasnooktiabrskoe, Obukhovka, Sagost, 10th of October etc. Retarded AFU commanders keep throwing their last elite reserves into this meat grinder.

Meanwhile, in Donbas Russian offensive is under way too. Next towns to be captured by the Russians will probably be Pokrovsk, Kurakhove, Uhlidar.
sr. member
Activity: 2464
Merit: 252

If a war breaks out between big countries, its effects will spread all over the world. Russia is one of the largest countries in the world with which the world has business and trade relations. On the other hand, Ukraine's situation is similar, although not as widely as Russia, a large part of the world's food demand is consumed from that country throughout the world. The bad times the world economy would go through when the war broke out between the two countries was already predicted and it has had that effect. The state of the world economy comes to a critical stage. Due to inflation, the economy of low-income countries has come to collapse. As we can easily guess from a chart, almost all of the high, low and middle income earners start to get worse.


For the deterioration of the global economy and the lives of most people on the planet, we must first of all "thank" Russia and its population, which by 70-80 percent supports Putin's actions in his attempt to destroy Ukraine and Ukrainians during all the years of the war with Ukraine. After all, the war in Ukraine is not a natural disaster that suddenly happened and which could not be prevented.

Russia attacked Ukraine back in 2014, seizing the Crimean peninsula and parts of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions. But the reaction of the international community to this was extremely passive and generally amounted to "concern". Putin regarded this reaction as an invitation to further aggression. Russia strikes with missiles at populated areas throughout Ukraine almost every day. But the United States and Europe do not allow Ukraine to strike Russian military facilities deep into its territory with their weapons. Ukraine is bleeding, but it is not allowed to fully defend itself. It is not surprising that, seeing this, other authoritarian states are unleashing military conflicts in other places.
hero member
Activity: 1764
Merit: 514
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
When war breaks out between important countries of the world, the loss of trade between neighboring countries gradually becomes a global problem. For example, as a result of the war between Russia and Ukraine, they cannot complete the commercial agreements between their neighboring countries, as a result, the delivery of imported and exported products is greatly affected, resulting in a shortage of products in that country. Moreover, when a war takes place in a country, the neighboring countries do not want to create any new LC towards these affected countries.  Thus there is a huge loss of trade between the neighboring countries and the affected countries.
If a war breaks out between big countries, its effects will spread all over the world. Russia is one of the largest countries in the world with which the world has business and trade relations. On the other hand, Ukraine's situation is similar, although not as widely as Russia, a large part of the world's food demand is consumed from that country throughout the world. The bad times the world economy would go through when the war broke out between the two countries was already predicted and it has had that effect. The state of the world economy comes to a critical stage. Due to inflation, the economy of low-income countries has come to collapse. As we can easily guess from a chart, almost all of the high, low and middle income earners start to get worse.

hero member
Activity: 980
Merit: 585
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
World economy

This is hard time for economy to survive what is your thinking about the collapsing of world economy with highing inflation.



We'll I think it's affecting most countries a whole lot and if this continues we can't really tell what will become of the world economy because due to this there's a high rate of things and it's affecting the market as well.
Insurgency, disaster, war and so on are huge effect of economic crisis and if care's not taken things might skyrocket to some level leaving no one with any options and this is majorly caused by the war between Ukraine and Russian.

Honestly there's no positive impacts on them to the world or the economy rather everything keeps depreciating,inflation is in the rise,everything just keeps going higher due to the fact that it's been affected highly by the war between the two allies.i just get sucked with all of this as it's not favourable to the nation and economy.
sr. member
Activity: 2464
Merit: 252

Meanwhile, the front in Donbas is crumbling: Russians have captured numerous villages and towns earlier today:  Memrik, Kalinovo, Marinivka, Novohrodivka etc. Russians have entered Selydove and are closing in on Pokrovsk. Ukraine has lost all these villages and towns forever they will become a part of Russia. Guess why it happened? Yes, exactly, this is due to geniuses in AFU command throwing 60000 of their last reserves into Kursk meat grinder.  All this drama for a useless PR move: we invaded Russia!  Grin Grin Grin  Stupid and childish AF.      

According to Russian propagandists, the front from the Ukrainian Armed Forces has been collapsing for the entire summer, but it still cannot collapse. The Ukrainian Armed Forces continue to defend themselves and inflict significant damage on the attacking Russian occupiers every day. However, given that in the Pokrovsk direction the occupiers have a practically tenfold superiority in manpower, complete superiority in artillery and aviation, the Ukrainian Armed Forces do not fight in unfavorable conditions for themselves and are sometimes forced to slowly retreat in order to save the lives of their soldiers.
Russian soldiers declared near Kiev that they had come for good, and near Kharkov, and in Kherson, and then fled so quickly that they abandoned military equipment along with the stolen property.

Have the Russians entered Selidovo? Let them try to take this city first. This is incorrect information.
https://censor.net/ru/news/3508393/zsu_trymayut_selydove
https://korrespondent.net/ukraine/4714059-vsu-otbyvauit-shturmy-rossyian-selydovo-nesmotria-na-uhrozu-okruzhenyia-smy
The Russian army's offensive is already running out of steam. If earlier they attacked in seven sections of the front, now they are attacking only near Pokrovsk. Let's see what happens in a few months.

The Ukrainian Armed Forces have been in the Kursk region of Russia for a month now and are currently holding more than 2,000 square kilometers of Russian territory, cutting off the logistical supply routes of Russian troops to wage war in Ukraine, and also showing the whole world that great Russia cannot even defend its territory. In the Glushkovsky district of the Kursk region, significant Russian forces have been encircled on an area of 700 square kilometers, and they can still, under fire from Ukrainian drones, abandon their equipment, swim across the Seim River and avoid death or captivity. I definitely support such "childishness".
legendary
Activity: 3752
Merit: 1864
The situation in Ukraine is slightly different. Russian soldiers are committing mass atrocities against the civilian population in the occupied territories of Ukraine in order to intimidate this population and force it to renounce its belonging to the Ukrainian nation. They are trying to destroy everything Ukrainian and destroy Ukraine as a state - Ukrainian schools are being closed, Ukrainian books and textbooks are being destroyed, the history of Ukraine is being rewritten, everything Russian is being brutally and violently imposed. This is pure genocide of the Ukrainian nation.

Exactly the opposite is happening: the US with the hands of Zelensky junta is banning everything Russian: burning books, renaming streets, banning Russian in schools, even the Russian Orthodox church had been banned. Ukrainian occupiers are shooting and harassing Russian civilians (mostly elderly people) en masse in Kursk Region. Luckily, this is not for long: the attack had been stopped and soon occupiers will get destroyed and pushed back into Sumi region of Ukraine.

Meanwhile, the front in Donbas is crumbling: Russians have captured numerous villages and towns earlier today:  Memrik, Kalinovo, Marinivka, Novohrodivka etc. Russians have entered Selydove and are closing in on Pokrovsk. Ukraine has lost all these villages and towns forever they will become a part of Russia. Guess why it happened? Yes, exactly, this is due to geniuses in AFU command throwing 60000 of their last reserves into Kursk meat grinder.  All this drama for a useless PR move: we invaded Russia!  Grin Grin Grin  Stupid and childish AF.      

As always for you I will give you training, and give you new knowledge, without which you habitually suffer and also habitually look stupid Smiley As always don't thank me Smiley

1. hunta - a political group that came to power unconstitutionally and exercises dictatorial rule by terror.

1. By unconstitutional means (by rewriting the constitution and rigging elections all the time and using resources)
2. Dictatorial rule by terror - from bombing houses in russia in 1999 to terrorist strikes with ballistic weapons on hospitals, schools, kindergartens, houses with civilians, using banned weapons, etc.

Now tell me - who does it look like - Zelensky (of whom I am not a supporter by the way) or international criminal Putin? Before answering - remember that you have a brain Smiley

2. now that you are a bit smarter, let's get back to the topic:
1. The AFU does not capture foreign territories, does not destroy houses and civilians, which is very easy to verify with footage from there. The AFU is liberating the Kursk People's Republic, which is being terrorized by the Kremlin junta. The Belgorod People's Republic, where the Kremlin Nazis are banning the Ukrainian language, the native language of these republics, will be liberated soon. Can you name - do the Kursk People's Republic or the Belgorod People's Republic (historical territories of Ukraine) have schools, libraries, mass media, and the right to use their native Ukrainian language? The inhabitants of these republics asked the brotherly people of Ukraine for help from the terror of the Kremlin junta, from the internal conflict unleashed by the Kremlin ! Smiley

If someone does not believe - I will give a huge amount of video materials where local residents meet liberators from the AFU, thank them, and the AFU help the victims of the Kremlin junta with everything - from medicines to clothes and food.
So stop your usual, stupid propaganda Smiley

PS As of today the AFU has already liberated more than 2000 square kilometers from the Kremlin junta, and this is only for 3 weeks ! In 3 weeks the AFU has gained control over the territory many times larger than the Russian terrorist army in Ukraine ! Smiley

And about the successes of the “second army of the world” : daily losses of Russian terrorists, from meat assaults - more than 1000 destroyed, respectively from 2000 to 3000 wounded. Every day ! That is why so many conscripts are surrendered to the AFU Smiley

legendary
Activity: 2422
Merit: 1191
Privacy Servers. Since 2009.
The situation in Ukraine is slightly different. Russian soldiers are committing mass atrocities against the civilian population in the occupied territories of Ukraine in order to intimidate this population and force it to renounce its belonging to the Ukrainian nation. They are trying to destroy everything Ukrainian and destroy Ukraine as a state - Ukrainian schools are being closed, Ukrainian books and textbooks are being destroyed, the history of Ukraine is being rewritten, everything Russian is being brutally and violently imposed. This is pure genocide of the Ukrainian nation.

Exactly the opposite is happening: the US with the hands of Zelensky junta is banning everything Russian: burning books, renaming streets, banning Russian in schools, even the Russian Orthodox church had been banned. Ukrainian occupiers are shooting and harassing Russian civilians (mostly elderly people) en masse in Kursk Region. Luckily, this is not for long: the attack had been stopped and soon occupiers will get destroyed and pushed back into Sumi region of Ukraine.

Meanwhile, the front in Donbas is crumbling: Russians have captured numerous villages and towns earlier today:  Memrik, Kalinovo, Marinivka, Novohrodivka etc. Russians have entered Selydove and are closing in on Pokrovsk. Ukraine has lost all these villages and towns forever they will become a part of Russia. Guess why it happened? Yes, exactly, this is due to geniuses in AFU command throwing 60000 of their last reserves into Kursk meat grinder.  All this drama for a useless PR move: we invaded Russia!  Grin Grin Grin  Stupid and childish AF.      
legendary
Activity: 3752
Merit: 1864
Israel's defensive
Brutally murdering 8% of the population of Gaza is not called defense. It is called genocide.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01169-3/fulltext

Russian offensive
How is invasion of Ukraine an "offense" but invasion of Palestine a "defense"? Shocked


If you stop listening to propaganda, and actually perceive reality, even those contrary to your interests, the picture looks extremely simple:
- Russia invaded Ukraine, annexed part of the territory, destroyed a huge number of towns and villages, destroyed peaceful population and infrastructure in a terrorist way, violating all treaties and obligations. This is AGGRESSION against Ukraine.
- Similarly, there was a terrorist invasion of Israel, with the destruction of civilians and infrastructure, which was responded to.

In very simplistic terms - when you start a war, remember that it will come back to you, and your citizens will be hostages of your terrorist ideas.
This is what Russia is getting now, when the AFU began, at the request of the residents of the Kursk People's Republic, to liberate it from the oppression of Russian terrorists !
legendary
Activity: 3472
Merit: 10611
What is happening in Gaza on the part of Israel can simultaneously be self-defense and, if certain circumstances are confirmed by the ICC, genocide of the civilian population of the Gaza Strip.
If Zionists committing genocide, systematically raping hostages, harvesting their organs, directly targeting international aid workers and reporters, committing acts of terrorism, etc. is called self-defense then what is happening to Ukraine is hugs and kisses. And the FAB-3000 are carrying daisy flowers so that Ukraine can look beautiful and smell so good.

Quote
Israel is now clearly defending itself against the Hamas attack that was carried out on October 7 with ostentatious excessive cruelty against the civilian population of Israel.
Apart from the fact that there is no such thing as "civilian population" in an occupation. The military operation on October 7 was a raid on Zionist military bases to take as many military personnel as prisoners so that they could force the Zionists occupiers to release the thousands of Palestinian civilian (including children) hostages that have been getting raped in the Israeli dungeons for years.


By the way posts such as yours here supporting genocide as a Ukraine supporter, makes Russian statements such as "denazification of Ukraine" sound more legitimate. Even more so when we put that beside the fact that Zelensky is a known Zionist and a supporter of the terrorist organization called Israel.
So by my guess and support Zionist terrorists and their genocide. It won't change a thing since Israel's fate is already sealed and it is the same fate as her sister organization called ISIS, the Islamic State. The only thing you'd achieve is to make Russian "special operation" seem more legitimate. Wink
sr. member
Activity: 2464
Merit: 252

Let me put that in numbers for you to understand it better. The civilian casualties reported by officials in Ukraine is 11520. That is in 900 days in a population of over 40 million. In Gaza, in 300 days 8% of the population was murdered. Extrapolating it to Ukraine that would be like 12 million civilians in Ukraine dying.

11,000 versus 12,000,000. Think about that number for a while before you respond. Then tell me again is what's happening in Gaza a defense or a genocide?

What is happening in Gaza on the part of Israel can simultaneously be self-defense and, if certain circumstances are confirmed by the ICC, genocide of the civilian population of the Gaza Strip.

Israel is now clearly defending itself against the Hamas attack that was carried out on October 7 with ostentatious excessive cruelty against the civilian population of Israel. The strikes on Israeli territory were carried out from densely populated areas of Gaza and those who did this deliberately allowed the death of the civilian population in retaliatory strikes. However, it has been repeatedly noted that the Israeli armed forces carried out strikes with high-precision weapons on civilian populations where Hamas units were absent. The International Criminal Court (ICC) has already issued several arrest warrants for some of Israel's leaders and if this is proven in this court, then Israel should be held accountable for the genocide committed against the civilian population of the Gaza Strip.

The situation in Ukraine is slightly different. Russian soldiers are committing mass atrocities against the civilian population in the occupied territories of Ukraine in order to intimidate this population and force it to renounce its belonging to the Ukrainian nation. They are trying to destroy everything Ukrainian and destroy Ukraine as a state - Ukrainian schools are being closed, Ukrainian books and textbooks are being destroyed, the history of Ukraine is being rewritten, everything Russian is being brutally and violently imposed. This is pure genocide of the Ukrainian nation.
legendary
Activity: 3472
Merit: 10611
So typical for the Ukrainian trolls.
I wouldn't go that far regarding Abiky, after all it is very easy to get misled by the main stream media specially if one is a follower of the Western mouthpieces that are not even allowed to use terms such as genocide about what is happening in Gaza despite the fact that ICJ and all other international organizations recognized it as such.

Anyway, Ukraine is throwing more and more cannon fodder into the Kursk meat grinder. All they could occupy so far is a pathetic strip of land (30x40km) in Kursk region with a handful of villages on it. As pooya87 mentioned, the Russians are actively destroying Ukrainian reserves (troops, fuel, armored vehicles) in Sumi Region of Ukraine to stop the attacking forces and eventually encircle and destroy them. Meanwhile, the shortage of troops and ammo in Donbas is getting critical and the front is about to collapse. Which is great, the war is about to come to an end.  Cool 
Another thing is that F-16 aircrafts are still nowhere to be seen. Interestingly enough Ukraine is using airforce in Kursk front but it is the Mig-29 and Su-27 aircrafts as far as I found out. Which proves what I explained here a year ago.

~
I think you are confused about my post. I didn't say what's happening in Ukraine is or is not an offensive or an invasion. I am just pointing out a double standard. I said you can't call one invasion "an invasion" and another invasion "a defense" specially if that other aggression is only murdering civilians and is categorized as a genocide by the international community.

Let me put that in numbers for you to understand it better. The civilian casualties reported by officials in Ukraine is 11520. That is in 900 days in a population of over 40 million. In Gaza, in 300 days 8% of the population was murdered. Extrapolating it to Ukraine that would be like 12 million civilians in Ukraine dying.

11,000 versus 12,000,000. Think about that number for a while before you respond. Then tell me again is what's happening in Gaza a defense or a genocide?
sr. member
Activity: 2464
Merit: 252
Israel's defensive
Brutally murdering 8% of the population of Gaza is not called defense. It is called genocide.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01169-3/fulltext

Russian offensive
How is invasion of Ukraine an "offense" but invasion of Palestine a "defense"? Shocked

This is for the same reason why the invasion of the allied forces of the USSR, the USA and England in 1944 into the territory of Nazi Germany is not an attack, but a defense. This is also why the current entry of Ukrainian troops into the territory of the Kursk region of Russia is not an attack, but an active defense. If someone commits an act of military aggression against a neighboring state, then he must be prepared for the fact that, in defense, the victim of aggression will come to the territory of the aggressor to destroy the evil of aggression at home and thus avoid a repeat of aggression in the future.

In the first ten days of its offensive on the Kursk region, Ukraine "liberated" as much territory as Russia, through great losses, managed to capture in the last nine months in the area of the Donbas region on the eastern front. Moreover, this offensive continues to develop and more than 90 settlements of the Kursk region are already under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. At the same time, in the Glushkovsky district of the Kursk region, after the destruction of three bridges across the Seim River, and then the pontoon crossings under construction, the Ukrainian Armed Forces surrounded about 3,000 Russian soldiers. They still have a chance to swim across the river without equipment, weapons and gear.

On August 7, the Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Federation Gerasimov reported to Putin that he would destroy the Ukrainians who had invaded the Kursk region in a few days. But again, something went wrong according to plan and Putin has already set a deadline of October 1 to drive the Ukrainian Armed Forces out of the Kursk region. But it seems to me that these wishes of Putin will not be fulfilled either. Russia no longer has sufficient forces for this.
Pages:
Jump to: