Topic: The problem with atheism. - page 6. (Read 38498 times)

Quote from: Forester618 on May 09, 2017, 07:03:00 AM

Every person on the planet have right to believe what they want. Either that be God, or they believe that God does not exist, or maybe they believe in teachings of Buddha, it is all the same to the world. What is important in life is not do you believe in good or now, it is important not to cause suffering to other people and even more important that this one before is that you are happy with you life. There is nothing more to this mortal life than that...

Right. You can believe in anything only so that it does not harm others and not impose your own way of life on someone.

What do you ever seen believers who do not impose their faith to others? Every religion encourages its parishioners for what they bring to them new people. So they always try to impose the religion of others and to appease this God of his.

Yes, all the deeply religious people become obsessed with attracting new victims for the observance of their religion. It's horrible.

It reminds me of drug addiction. Every addict in my life involves the process of drug abuse a lot of other people. And people's reaction to drug use and religion are very similar. May be religion is the opium of the people?

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The real problem with atheism is they don't believe in existance of god where they have their own belief on their self and their self confidence is over the wall there thiking that they smart like other sciencetist that proves all are created by science not gods or they believed that all of the story are myth.

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Quote from: Forester618 on May 09, 2017, 07:03:00 AM

Every person on the planet have right to believe what they want. Either that be God, or they believe that God does not exist, or maybe they believe in teachings of Buddha, it is all the same to the world. What is important in life is not do you believe in good or now, it is important not to cause suffering to other people and even more important that this one before is that you are happy with you life. There is nothing more to this mortal life than that...

Right. You can believe in anything only so that it does not harm others and not impose your own way of life on someone.

What do you ever seen believers who do not impose their faith to others? Every religion encourages its parishioners for what they bring to them new people. So they always try to impose the religion of others and to appease this God of his.

Yes, all the deeply religious people become obsessed with attracting new victims for the observance of their religion. It's horrible.

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Every person on the planet have right to believe what they want. Either that be God, or they believe that God does not exist, or maybe they believe in teachings of Buddha, it is all the same to the world. What is important in life is not do you believe in good or now, it is important not to cause suffering to other people and even more important that this one before is that you are happy with you life. There is nothing more to this mortal life than that...

Right. You can believe in anything only so that it does not harm others and not impose your own way of life on someone.

What do you ever seen believers who do not impose their faith to others? Every religion encourages its parishioners for what they bring to them new people. So they always try to impose the religion of others and to appease this God of his.

The only difference with the atheist is, his god is himself. And he often doesn't even realize this consciously.

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Every person on the planet have right to believe what they want. Either that be God, or they believe that God does not exist, or maybe they believe in teachings of Buddha, it is all the same to the world. What is important in life is not do you believe in good or now, it is important not to cause suffering to other people and even more important that this one before is that you are happy with you life. There is nothing more to this mortal life than that...

Right. You can believe in anything only so that it does not harm others and not impose your own way of life on someone.

What do you ever seen believers who do not impose their faith to others? Every religion encourages its parishioners for what they bring to them new people. So they always try to impose the religion of others and to appease this God of his.

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Every person on the planet have right to believe what they want. Either that be God, or they believe that God does not exist, or maybe they believe in teachings of Buddha, it is all the same to the world. What is important in life is not do you believe in good or now, it is important not to cause suffering to other people and even more important that this one before is that you are happy with you life. There is nothing more to this mortal life than that...

Right. You can believe in anything only so that it does not harm others and not impose your own way of life on someone.

The question doesn't have to do with the right to believe. It doesn't even have to do with the free choice of what to believe. It has to do with people not really knowing what they believe.

For example. Who is an atheist? The only atheist is a person who has never had the idea of God placed before him. Once the idea of God is placed before him, he stops being an atheist. Why? Because he realizes that he doesn't know everything, and that God might exist somewhere he hasn't examined.

This doesn't mean that the person will stop saying he is an atheist. He might wish that God doesn't exist. He might say he believes God doesn't exist. But he knows that God might exist. And since he knows God might exist somewhere, he doesn't believe the opposite (atheism) even though he might want to.

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Quote from: craked5 on May 09, 2017, 05:19:21 AM

Every person on the planet have right to believe what they want. Either that be God, or they believe that God does not exist, or maybe they believe in teachings of Buddha, it is all the same to the world. What is important in life is not do you believe in good or now, it is important not to cause suffering to other people and even more important that this one before is that you are happy with you life. There is nothing more to this mortal life than that...

Right. You can believe in anything only so that it does not harm others and not impose your own way of life on someone.

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Every person on the planet have right to believe what they want. Either that be God, or they believe that God does not exist, or maybe they believe in teachings of Buddha, it is all the same to the world. What is important in life is not do you believe in good or now, it is important not to cause suffering to other people and even more important that this one before is that you are happy with you life. There is nothing more to this mortal life than that...

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Quote from: Winchester2211 on May 09, 2017, 05:15:22 AM

Quote from: craked5 on May 09, 2017, 05:08:41 AM

Quote from: Winchester2211 on May 09, 2017, 05:15:22 AM

Life does not have any other meaning other than to survive to the next generation. There is no grand plan, no heaven in the clouds etc.

In the end, it does not matter what you believe, when we die we die. There is no life after death no matter what and how hard you believe.

That's where you're wrong.
There is no proof of a great plan or heaven or whatever yeah.
But there is no proof of the contrary either. And it's not like we understand everything in the universe.

There might be a God. It doesn't mean you have to believe in it of course, but it's still a possibility. No need to abide to a dogma your whole life for a possibility though xD

Have you ever seen to evidence that does not exist? The very notion of proof assumes the existence of something you need to prove. This is not an argument. There is no God because there is no evidence of its existence. Agree?

Completely stupid, if that was the case then there was no atoms before 19th century because there was no proof of its existence? It's not because there is no proof of something that it doesn't exist!

Yes, there is not necessarily for everything to be proof. Just people have not yet developed to this level to prove everything.

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Quote from: craked5 on May 09, 2017, 05:08:41 AM

Quote from: craked5 on May 09, 2017, 05:08:41 AM

Life does not have any other meaning other than to survive to the next generation. There is no grand plan, no heaven in the clouds etc.

In the end, it does not matter what you believe, when we die we die. There is no life after death no matter what and how hard you believe.

That's where you're wrong.
There is no proof of a great plan or heaven or whatever yeah.
But there is no proof of the contrary either. And it's not like we understand everything in the universe.

There might be a God. It doesn't mean you have to believe in it of course, but it's still a possibility. No need to abide to a dogma your whole life for a possibility though xD

Have you ever seen to evidence that does not exist? The very notion of proof assumes the existence of something you need to prove. This is not an argument. There is no God because there is no evidence of its existence. Agree?

Completely stupid, if that was the case then there was no atoms before 19th century because there was no proof of its existence? It's not because there is no proof of something that it doesn't exist!

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Life does not have any other meaning other than to survive to the next generation. There is no grand plan, no heaven in the clouds etc.

In the end, it does not matter what you believe, when we die we die. There is no life after death no matter what and how hard you believe.

That's where you're wrong.
There is no proof of a great plan or heaven or whatever yeah.
But there is no proof of the contrary either. And it's not like we understand everything in the universe.

There might be a God. It doesn't mean you have to believe in it of course, but it's still a possibility. No need to abide to a dogma your whole life for a possibility though xD

Have you ever seen to evidence that does not exist? The very notion of proof assumes the existence of something you need to prove. This is not an argument. There is no God because there is no evidence of its existence. Agree?

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