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December 27, 2022, 04:16:09 PM
There are rumors (that likely to be true) that we wont see Leon Edwards vs Kamaru Usman fight, as Usman has some serious issues with his knees (probably gonna have a surgery). That is why UFC have in plans to organize Edwards vs Chimaev fight. That is what Dana White said recently, added that he does not see any other perfect fight match for Edwards. If rumors are true, it will be up to Edwards to select his real opponent. What do you think about this guys?
This should happen.
Khamzat Chimaev is getting frustrated about the lack of opponents to fight him. If they are real champions, they should try this dude. That is, if Edwards will be the one choosing.
I didn't realize that was already 4 months ago since Edwards won.
Chimaev seems to be ready for anyone and even said he would fight Pereira for a title, take it, and then go down to welterweight for Covington if Dana White will pursue that kind of path.
The date was said to be in March, and Covington had not fought for 9 months, it will be a year of rest in March 2023. So I think he will be the one Chimaev will face.
Then it looks that Covington will be facing Edwards, because it will be simply unprofitable to left numeral UFC London event be without a huge fight. We have Tom Aspinall, he has already headed 2 events in London. Doubt that his fight will be main event again. UFC could try to use Paddy the Baddy, but he is unranked to be let head whole event. Despite, I think UFC has already announced that Edwards will fight in UFC London next spring.

Isn’t it going to be bad for the UFC if Khamzat Chimaev does not get opponents to fight against?
Because he was bringing in a good amount of money for that UFC and he was also showing good skills as well.
But one thing is he was not that crowd favourite at all. He was always doing his own things by his own rules.
If UFC can find a way to make him a crowd favourite, I think it will be very beneficial for the UFC.

And I also think that Covington versus Edwards is going to be a good pay per view on generator for the UFC. But the question is, is that going to happen?


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December 27, 2022, 10:10:53 AM
Chimaev seems to be ready for anyone and even said he would fight Pereira for a title, take it, and then go down to welterweight for Covington if Dana White will pursue that kind of path.
The date was said to be in March, and Covington had not fought for 9 months, it will be a year of rest in March 2023. So I think he will be the one Chimaev will face.
In UFC 284 Chimaev will fight with Volkanovski in lightweight division, so Chimaev is risk his title right? which mean if Volkanovski win, he will get lightweight title, if he lose he wouldn't lose anything? also does Volkanovski lost his belt since he's lower his division? I'm not quite understand about this matter.

It looks like, there's will be a lower champion will fight with higher champion due to lack of tough fighter.

The one who is defending belt is the one who might lose a belt, but the one who is not in his division (like Volkanovski vs Makhachev or Adesanja vs Blachowicz) won lose a belt in case he looses, because he is not defending anything.

On one hand it is honest, because you risk to go to other persons territory (weight class) and compete there. You should not lose a belt in case of a loss. On the other hand, this is not honest towards your division - instead of fighting someone that deserve a title shot, you fight someone else.
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December 27, 2022, 10:03:55 AM
Chimaev seems to be ready for anyone and even said he would fight Pereira for a title, take it, and then go down to welterweight for Covington if Dana White will pursue that kind of path.
The date was said to be in March, and Covington had not fought for 9 months, it will be a year of rest in March 2023. So I think he will be the one Chimaev will face.
In UFC 284 Chimaev will fight with Volkanovski in lightweight division, so Chimaev is risk his title right? which mean if Volkanovski win, he will get lightweight title, if he lose he wouldn't lose anything? also does Volkanovski lost his belt since he's lower his division? I'm not quite understand about this matter.

It looks like, there's will be a lower champion will fight with higher champion due to lack of tough fighter.

I think you got confused.  You're talking about Islam Makhachev.  And yes, Volk is moving up to 155 and is going for Makhachev's belt.  And if Volk wins, he gets to be double champ.  One title at 145 and another one at 155.  If Makhachev wins then he defended his belt at 155 and Volk doesn't lose his belt at 145.  That's how it works.

And yup, Volk really has fought almost everybody at the top in his weight class that he needs to move up and fight at 155.  It's good timing too imho.  When was the last time we had a couple of champs in the cage?
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December 27, 2022, 07:29:03 AM
Chimaev seems to be ready for anyone and even said he would fight Pereira for a title, take it, and then go down to welterweight for Covington if Dana White will pursue that kind of path.
The date was said to be in March, and Covington had not fought for 9 months, it will be a year of rest in March 2023. So I think he will be the one Chimaev will face.
In UFC 284 Chimaev will fight with Volkanovski in lightweight division, so Chimaev is risk his title right? which mean if Volkanovski win, he will get lightweight title, if he lose he wouldn't lose anything? also does Volkanovski lost his belt since he's lower his division? I'm not quite understand about this matter.

It looks like, there's will be a lower champion will fight with higher champion due to lack of tough fighter.

Covington might have to fight someone else first before taking his risk against Chimaev. Volk vs Islam is really one of the best matchup they can do after all both of these fighters have gained thier way up with a number of winning streaks.

Dana will soon provide good matches for everyone to enjoy in UFC before the Ali Act extension to MMA takes place as they introduced a new regulatory body World Fighting Federation (WFF) and then DANA might be forced to pay an astonishing amount of money to his fighters.
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December 27, 2022, 05:42:43 AM
Chimaev seems to be ready for anyone and even said he would fight Pereira for a title, take it, and then go down to welterweight for Covington if Dana White will pursue that kind of path.
The date was said to be in March, and Covington had not fought for 9 months, it will be a year of rest in March 2023. So I think he will be the one Chimaev will face.
In UFC 284 Chimaev will fight with Volkanovski in lightweight division, so Chimaev is risk his title right? which mean if Volkanovski win, he will get lightweight title, if he lose he wouldn't lose anything? also does Volkanovski lost his belt since he's lower his division? I'm not quite understand about this matter.

It looks like, there's will be a lower champion will fight with higher champion due to lack of tough fighter.
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December 27, 2022, 05:07:37 AM
Then it looks that Covington will be facing Edwards, because it will be simply unprofitable to left numeral UFC London event be without a huge fight. We have Tom Aspinall, he has already headed 2 events in London. Doubt that his fight will be main event again. UFC could try to use Paddy the Baddy, but he is unranked to be let head whole event. Despite, I think UFC has already announced that Edwards will fight in UFC London next spring.
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December 27, 2022, 04:30:05 AM
There are rumors (that likely to be true) that we wont see Leon Edwards vs Kamaru Usman fight, as Usman has some serious issues with his knees (probably gonna have a surgery). That is why UFC have in plans to organize Edwards vs Chimaev fight. That is what Dana White said recently, added that he does not see any other perfect fight match for Edwards. If rumors are true, it will be up to Edwards to select his real opponent. What do you think about this guys?
This should happen.
Khamzat Chimaev is getting frustrated about the lack of opponents to fight him. If they are real champions, they should try this dude. That is, if Edwards will be the one choosing.
I didn't realize that was already 4 months ago since Edwards won.

Chimaev seems to be ready for anyone and even said he would fight Pereira for a title, take it, and then go down to welterweight for Covington if Dana White will pursue that kind of path.
The date was said to be in March, and Covington had not fought for 9 months, it will be a year of rest in March 2023. So I think he will be the one Chimaev will face.
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December 27, 2022, 03:27:31 AM
There are rumors (that likely to be true) that we wont see Leon Edwards vs Kamaru Usman fight, as Usman has some serious issues with his knees (probably gonna have a surgery). That is why UFC have in plans to organize Edwards vs Chimaev fight. That is what Dana White said recently, added that he does not see any other perfect fight match for Edwards. If rumors are true, it will be up to Edwards to select his real opponent. What do you think about this guys?
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December 26, 2022, 03:30:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WcLMUSsXhg

Here is the video of Jorge Masvidal being arrested. First he was asked few general question, but later the guard put cuffs on him, accompanied to a police car, where later Jorge is moved in a police car probably to a pre-trial detention center. What do you think guys? Is this it for Jorge? Was Or he was taken only for a interrogation? Does not look like it was just a talk with a police officer story.
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December 26, 2022, 03:12:48 PM
It is so weird to see fighters who has restarted UFC (I am talking about season first the ultimate fighter tv series) pass away. Few days ago Stephan Bonnar passed away. I remember that he and Forrest Griffin were the only two fighters from TUF, that got a contracts, despite one of them had lost. Another UFC fighter who has died relatively young…
The Ultimate fighter final between Forrest Griffin and Stephan Bonnar is one of the greatest fights and that attracted more exposure and fans for the UFC when they were literally struggling to attract audience and so is the reason Stephan Bonnar got the contract even though he lost the fight and it was a really close fight and it is really sad that he is no more.

Stephan Bonnar is someone who was not looked after since he retired. A lot of people are saying that he is someone who saved that fighting game. In a sense, he actually did. As I am hearing, he did not get proper treatment from the hospitals. That really should have never happened. He was the savior when it was really rough times for the UFC. He died relatively young. RIP legend.
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December 26, 2022, 02:42:01 PM
Personally, I do not like comparing the salary of boxers with the UFC fighters. Because first of all, I do not think UFC makes anywhere near the money that boxing makes. And there are simple reasons for that. UFC is a lot more technical compared to boxing. So it is not necessary that everyone will understand UFC.

But that’s not the main reason. A lot of people think that UFC is deadlier than boxing. But the facts say that fighters have died in boxing a lot more than that UFC, at least in recent times. I think ultimately it comes down to the marketing. And boxing does the marketing really well. Better than that UFC in some aspect I will say.

But at the same time, I really believe that UFC can give the fighters a lot more money than they are currently giving. UFC is not also that broke. And the fighters do realize that. Francis Nganou is someone who got paid a really small amount of money as the champion of a weight class. And when all this started, I googled his salary and it was absolutely insulting for a fighter like him in my opinion.
If only the money made in the UFC was good. Fighters wouldn't bother with boxers to hold show boxing matches. It was always said that there would be a Francis Ngannou and Tyson Fury boxing match. If Ngannou had earned enough money, I don't think he would have bothered for a Boxing match. The UFC should raise their own fighters. As a matter of fact, fighters can win what they want when they make a good show on the media side. Although it is a technical and specific fighting organization, it has a show side. Featured fighters on the show side. It also influences referee decisions. To deny that I said this whether the fighter is in the foreground, we need to talk about a few more and the referee decisions taken.

Boxing is an Olympic sport with a lot of history. Organizations within MMA are very new and there is a lot of things to do.
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December 26, 2022, 12:35:49 PM
The Ultimate fighter final between Forrest Griffin and Stephan Bonnar is one of the greatest fights and that attracted more exposure and fans for the UFC when they were literally struggling to attract audience and so is the reason Stephan Bonnar got the contract even though he lost the fight and it was a really close fight and it is really sad that he is no more.

It was surely a sad thing for the MMA world the American Psycho Stephan Bonnar is really something and watching the replay of that fight it was really an intense fight I really don't know about The Ultimate Fighter because that was in 2005 and I don't have any idea about the UFC back then, in actuality I have known UFC back on 2011 but I am not interested in it, so Bonnar and Griffin I really don't have any idea who they are but when I have seen a news about a former UFC fighter I was interested about the story, so I have rewatched most of his fights,


Personally, I do not like comparing the salary of boxers with the UFC fighters. Because first of all, I do not think UFC makes anywhere near the money that boxing makes. And there are simple reasons for that. UFC is a lot more technical compared to boxing. So it is not necessary that everyone will understand UFC.

But that’s not the main reason. A lot of people think that UFC is deadlier than boxing. But the facts say that fighters have died in boxing a lot more than that UFC, at least in recent times. I think ultimately it comes down to the marketing. And boxing does the marketing really well. Better than that UFC in some aspect I will say.

But at the same time, I really believe that UFC can give the fighters a lot more money than they are currently giving. UFC is not also that broke. And the fighters do realize that. Francis Nganou is someone who got paid a really small amount of money as the champion of a weight class. And when all this started, I googled his salary and it was absolutely insulting for a fighter like him in my opinion.


1st of all you have said that UFC is not broke, yeah they aren't broke at all because of that they can pay most of its fighters I think the UFC PPV and the people watching and getting interested in UFC have increased aswell, but the salary is not increasing at all, only the favorite of Dana White gets to have higher pay, if you are not the favorite cash cow then you can not get an increase in salary, but boxing and MMA have quite different taste for the people so there are a different sales in with the difference combat department and boxing is more popular because it is well-known or the 1st ever combat sport,

Well, Boxing is deadlier if not given proper timing by the referee when to stop the fight I really think that referees should be more trained in handling their job and more knowledgeable about the situation, just to prevent those illegal punches like rabbit punches in the demise of Prichard Colon it should be prevented,

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December 26, 2022, 05:49:11 AM
I think UFC will never pay millions or same rewards as there are in boxing. How often does a boxing promotion has an event? 1 or 2 per year? How many UFC events we have ? Nearly every week. Paying huge reward to someone means paying huge rewards to others also. Otherwise they will start a strike. If UFC really pays everyone multiple times more than they do now, imagine how much PPV or event tickets would cost. Will you be ready to pay 500 bucks to watch 4-8 fight on a TV ?
There are a lot of boxing events every year and it's more than the UFC. The UFC is just like a single promoter but its value is probably bigger than all the top boxing promotions combined because it keeps a huge portion of its revenues. There are probably more than 30 people in boxing that are paid millions of dollars per fight. More events means more revenues too. TV deals are more than enough to cover events like Fight Nights while PPVs are extra money that networks usually earn from zero to little. Boxing PPVs are designed to pay the superstars which can take up to 90% of their revenues, so it is not for promoters and TV networks as the main beneficiaries. There's a reason why Bob Arum of Top Rank and the various tv networks do not like staging PPVs in general since they are risky if in case the buys are not enough to cover the guaranteed purse. On the other side, the UFC is the main beneficiary of its PPV events dictating the terms on how its stars can take a share except probably for Connor McGregor who learned a lot from Mayweather.

Personally, I do not like comparing the salary of boxers with the UFC fighters. Because first of all, I do not think UFC makes anywhere near the money that boxing makes. And there are simple reasons for that. UFC is a lot more technical compared to boxing. So it is not necessary that everyone will understand UFC.

But that’s not the main reason. A lot of people think that UFC is deadlier than boxing. But the facts say that fighters have died in boxing a lot more than that UFC, at least in recent times. I think ultimately it comes down to the marketing. And boxing does the marketing really well. Better than that UFC in some aspect I will say.

But at the same time, I really believe that UFC can give the fighters a lot more money than they are currently giving. UFC is not also that broke. And the fighters do realize that. Francis Nganou is someone who got paid a really small amount of money as the champion of a weight class. And when all this started, I googled his salary and it was absolutely insulting for a fighter like him in my opinion.
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December 25, 2022, 03:35:34 PM
It is so weird to see fighters who has restarted UFC (I am talking about season first the ultimate fighter tv series) pass away. Few days ago Stephan Bonnar passed away. I remember that he and Forrest Griffin were the only two fighters from TUF, that got a contracts, despite one of them had lost. Another UFC fighter who has died relatively young…
The Ultimate fighter final between Forrest Griffin and Stephan Bonnar is one of the greatest fights and that attracted more exposure and fans for the UFC when they were literally struggling to attract audience and so is the reason Stephan Bonnar got the contract even though he lost the fight and it was a really close fight and it is really sad that he is no more.
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December 25, 2022, 06:10:23 AM

I confess that I haven't been following UFC for years and I'm also not a person who has been following a lot of news about UFC for years, I'm a newcomer to the UFC so maybe my comment may contain errors but that are not intentional, one of these days I saw fighters complaining on the news that in the UFC they didn't have health insurance, life insurance and that they were paid very poorly, I confess that I don't understand how contracts are made in the UFC so it's hard for me to know if each fighter only receives the money for that fight he did and if he doesn't fight, he doesn't get paid or if he has a contract that allows him to receive a salary even if he's not fighting

I was thinking, if a fighter breaks his leg? it means that this fighter, in addition to not having a health plan, will have to pay out of pocket for treatment at the hospital, he will also have to stop fighting and as a consequence he will not receive any more money and he will not get another job because he won't be able to walk normally, so why do fighters earn so little when it's a high risk what they do?

A quick rundown on the fighter is as good to go and even watching some of the fighters highlights what you want, is a great refresher to get you into combat sports mostly UFC, and a little bit of research and I think you are good to go with the discussions,

I guess if a fighter is a no show just like in boxing they will not get paid, and I think you need to provide an article or something in backing up what you are saying, I think the UFC has some health insurance for their fighters and just like the Jiri Prochazka shoulder injury, he will get surgery for that and I think Dana White is saying that he will not let Jiri Prochazka get inside the ring without proper medication about his situation, and Dana White can not let that happen and here is a VIDEO saying Dana White will pay for all finances in the hospital, well so may there is certain health insurance for UFC fighters, or maybe it is not exclusive for all,

UFC is increasing price for PPV in 2023 and it's going to be $79.99, so more money for Dana White  Cheesy
There are no fights in UFC in this period but interesting things are always happening in world of MMA and UFC, and I saw video of Jorge Masvidal arrest was released.
This happened after he attacked Colby Covington in public, but he was very relaxed, chatting and smiling with police officers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WcLMUSsXhg
This story continues, now you can listen to Colby Covington talking with detectives about Jorge Masvidal from March this year.
He was not talking with Mavidal before this incident but he was talking with Masvidal's wife and he used parts of his personal life to trigger him.
We also know that Masvidal owns Rolex Presidental, policeman liked it  Smiley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zowVuPYrRc


These two surely got a huge grudge at each other Throat, for me they should leave it all inside the ring, Jorge Masvidal looks like a psychopath but maybe there is a deeper reason why he is doing this thing and pretty much the two will not let you onboard about the topic, but maybe it is a way to promote their fight again which is not a good idea now because Jorge Masvidal was defeated easily and another rematch is really not worth it Jorge Masvidal should retire from the UFC and move on to other Combat sports such as Bellator,
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December 25, 2022, 05:44:58 AM
I think UFC will never pay millions or same rewards as there are in boxing. How often does a boxing promotion has an event? 1 or 2 per year? How many UFC events we have ? Nearly every week. Paying huge reward to someone means paying huge rewards to others also. Otherwise they will start a strike. If UFC really pays everyone multiple times more than they do now, imagine how much PPV or event tickets would cost. Will you be ready to pay 500 bucks to watch 4-8 fight on a TV ?

There are a lot of boxing events every year and it's more than the UFC. The UFC is just like a single promoter but its value is probably bigger than all the top boxing promotions combined because it keeps a huge portion of its revenues. There are probably more than 30 people in boxing that are paid millions of dollars per fight. More events means more revenues too. TV deals are more than enough to cover events like Fight Nights while PPVs are extra money that networks usually earn from zero to little. Boxing PPVs are designed to pay the superstars which can take up to 90% of their revenues, so it is not for promoters and TV networks as the main beneficiaries. There's a reason why Bob Arum of Top Rank and the various tv networks do not like staging PPVs in general since they are risky if in case the buys are not enough to cover the guaranteed purse. On the other side, the UFC is the main beneficiary of its PPV events dictating the terms on how its stars can take a share except probably for Connor McGregor who learned a lot from Mayweather.
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December 25, 2022, 04:44:08 AM
It is so weird to see fighters who has restarted UFC (I am talking about season first the ultimate fighter tv series) pass away. Few days ago Stephan Bonnar passed away. I remember that he and Forrest Griffin were the only two fighters from TUF, that got a contracts, despite one of them had lost. Another UFC fighter who has died relatively young…
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December 24, 2022, 07:28:03 PM
UFC is increasing price for PPV in 2023 and it's going to be $79.99, so more money for Dana White  Cheesy
There are no fights in UFC in this period but interesting things are always happening in world of MMA and UFC, and I saw video of Jorge Masvidal arrest was released.
This happened after he attacked Colby Covington in public, but he was very relaxed, chatting and smiling with police officers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WcLMUSsXhg
This story continues, now you can listen to Colby Covington talking with detectives about Jorge Masvidal from March this year.
He was not talking with Mavidal before this incident but he was talking with Masvidal's wife and he used parts of his personal life to trigger him.
We also know that Masvidal owns Rolex Presidental, policeman liked it  Smiley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zowVuPYrRc
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December 24, 2022, 04:06:28 PM
Eagle FC, and various other promotions are growing quite nicely, but that's just because mixed martial arts in general is gaining popularity. None of these promotions are currently competing with the UFC in terms of growth or popularity though. UFC almost has a Monopoly based on viewings. I guess you could probably say they do have the Monopoly.
I don't think so.
Fighters have more options nowadays and they are more aware that Dana White and UFC are exploiting them more than in any other professional sport.
When compared with NBA, NFL and other professional sports organizations UFC is taking much larger piece of cake and they live scraps to fighters.
There is no future when you have policy like that in capitalism.

I confess that I haven't been following UFC for years and I'm also not a person who has been following a lot of news about UFC for years, I'm a newcomer to the UFC so maybe my comment may contain errors but that are not intentional, one of these days I saw fighters complaining on the news that in the UFC they didn't have health insurance, life insurance and that they were paid very poorly, I confess that I don't understand how contracts are made in the UFC so it's hard for me to know if each fighter only receives the money for that fight he did and if he doesn't fight, he doesn't get paid or if he has a contract that allows him to receive a salary even if he's not fighting

I was thinking, if a fighter breaks his leg? it means that this fighter, in addition to not having a health plan, will have to pay out of pocket for treatment at the hospital, he will also have to stop fighting and as a consequence he will not receive any more money and he will not get another job because he won't be able to walk normally, so why do fighters earn so little when it's a high risk what they do?
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December 24, 2022, 03:32:12 PM
The more breaking news is Texeira vs Hill. I remember that Texeira refused Ankalaev and Blachowicz, because he was waiting for Prochazka (who is recovering quickly, injury seems to not so bad + there is a funny story behind that injury), and now he has chosen Hill. Hill supposed to meet Antony Smith (who seems to be a much better opponent for Texeira) march 2023. But Hill was pulled out to face Texeira January 22. Basically Hill has 1 month to prepare against a BJJ guy, former champ, while being a basic boxer, during Xmas while being a father of 6 Cheesy Good Luck.

I have watched the Video "My Mistake" and yeah Jiri Prochazka is really doing fine, and Magomed Ankalaev was there when it happen that shoulder injury, he was taking light sparring with Ankalaev's team, it was really rare for Prochazka and Ankalaev to be on the same sparring session and on the same division well I think Prochazka is really preparing for Glover Texeira and Magomed Ankalaev is the right decision to make the fight with Texeira a bit easy, that is why Prochazka even though he is seen with good striking also when faced on the ground Glover Texeira is having a hardtime against him,

But talking about the upcoming Light Heavyweight fight with Glover Texeira VS Jamahal Hill It will be an interesting one, but for me, Glover Texeira has the advantage in my opinion but let's just wait, for me Jamahal Hil will need to enhance his takedown defense against Texeira, of even add the ground game to his arsenal,

Fighter pay will likely be rectified. Eventually, the UFC will be feeling the competition from the other organisations, but they'll be able to easily compete with that since they've basically been building a cash cow. The UFC is probably as close as you can get to a monopoly. I don't see any other organisation challenging them in the next 10 years. I could be wrong on that, but in terms of viewership, and popularity the UFC will probably remain at the top for quite some time.

Yup! it could be that far for some competition just like the UFC showing up on their doorstep, and knocking that they are now with the level of competition just like the UFC, well for me UFC will likely be famous for reason that they aren't giving a full amount of money to the fighters but it was going to the company to increase the companies greatness but apparently, this is why it is hard for other combat sports to be on the level of the UFC, Dana White just really did a great job in getting this company rises so it is very hard to out thrown the UFC from the number 1 spot,
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