Although it's true that any game can be rigged as long as that's doable, but nothing said by the guy or written in this thread is backed with any proof or data proving any actual point, this could just be a false rumor and there might be nothing like that. There can be a lot of ways for a casino to cheat their gamblers and even if they don't, people can come up with ideas themselves just like this one.
You think the roulette ball can not be controlled in a way the ball can be manipulated to be on certain number? With what I see, I think it is possible. But like what we have said about this, casinos and all other gambling sites have house edge, this will not make a good casino to follow this fake way because they know that they will always make money from their users. But if anyone tells me that this is not possible, I do not believe. 
Topic: This guy gave a whole prototype of "how live roulette scam us" - page 14. (Read 2070 times)
I often see my friend playing roulette and he always tells me that this game is probably fairer than other casino games, so he never tries other casino games just sits down playing roulette and spends his time and money, but I always pay attention to him even he doesn't never won in that game, I can only say to myself and smile "the dealer will always win in any gambling game that uses machines or tools because it's easy to cheat"
I've never had a problem with playing roulette even though I'm not a fan of this game as OP said let alone offline roulette even live roulette can still be cheated and played, but I'm not a hypocrite with that even all other casino games are the same, but it depends on how we can use strategy to play and control yourself in playing, sometimes even though we feel cheated by the system at least we can control ourselves when we lose we should stop playing so we don't lose a lot of money, the usual thing to do is don't be greedy to continue playing an already strange game without winning.
I've never had a problem with playing roulette even though I'm not a fan of this game as OP said let alone offline roulette even live roulette can still be cheated and played, but I'm not a hypocrite with that even all other casino games are the same, but it depends on how we can use strategy to play and control yourself in playing, sometimes even though we feel cheated by the system at least we can control ourselves when we lose we should stop playing so we don't lose a lot of money, the usual thing to do is don't be greedy to continue playing an already strange game without winning.
So obviously all of these wins from roulette are just planted in the entire history that it exists and even if they weigh those balls it's still would have results they wanted? My life has all been a lie then. I'm not that of a roulette fan but very certain that I want to avoid this game in the future or never play at all.
Although it's true that any game can be rigged as long as that's doable, but nothing said by the guy or written in this thread is backed with any proof or data proving any actual point, this could just be a false rumor and there might be nothing like that. There can be a lot of ways for a casino to cheat their gamblers and even if they don't, people can come up with ideas themselves just like this one.I think we shouldn't reach any conclusions from our side without getting to see or have any proof against any gambling platform that has allegedly done this with their players, and then we should decide if we want to play a game again or not.
This discussion has been made several times but what we actually never see in proof. 
I mean, when you play you always have some kind of suspicion because you never know what exactly is happening on the other side of your screen. The possibilities to cheat are endless unfortunately.
People speak about sound waves, magnets, even something like directing the ball with blows of air.
In the past I have seen some strange videos on youtube where for example the ball moved seconds after it stood still, that's very unlikely to happen.
I think the bid odds providers don't have a reason to cheat, they make enough money on the house edge, just like every casino worldwide.
What I don't know is what smaller casinos do to reach their profit targets. Behind closed doors I bet there are plenty of elaborate schemes we wouldn't even think of.
I mean, when you play you always have some kind of suspicion because you never know what exactly is happening on the other side of your screen. The possibilities to cheat are endless unfortunately.
People speak about sound waves, magnets, even something like directing the ball with blows of air.
In the past I have seen some strange videos on youtube where for example the ball moved seconds after it stood still, that's very unlikely to happen.
I think the bid odds providers don't have a reason to cheat, they make enough money on the house edge, just like every casino worldwide.
What I don't know is what smaller casinos do to reach their profit targets. Behind closed doors I bet there are plenty of elaborate schemes we wouldn't even think of.
There is a possibility that Roulette deceives players, but we cannot blindly believe the reviews given by other people, especially if it's just a narrative without any evidence.
In fact, not only in the game of Roulette but also with other games there is also the possibility of manipulation, but as long as we don't know about it and play to get pleasure from this kind of narrative, there's nothing to worry about.
Whether the game is manipulated or not, as long as we have luck, we can get victory, so playing wisely and responsibly is the right choice.
After all, in gambling, the house is a real winner, so it's impossible for the house to let players win the game so easily.
In fact, not only in the game of Roulette but also with other games there is also the possibility of manipulation, but as long as we don't know about it and play to get pleasure from this kind of narrative, there's nothing to worry about.
Whether the game is manipulated or not, as long as we have luck, we can get victory, so playing wisely and responsibly is the right choice.
After all, in gambling, the house is a real winner, so it's impossible for the house to let players win the game so easily.
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I wonder where he got this information from. quite curious about it and would have loved to read more into it if there is more.He is probably an ex-employee who noticed irregularities and took a dive into how it might be possible. Or, he was simply in on it or told about it and is now releasing the information for the sake of his conscience.
do you think, this is possible or they are already doing it? popular game providers like evolution, pragmatic, etc.
in the video, it does look like it is possible. As for whether this is already being used by popular game providers? maybe maybe not, all really we can do is speculate, of course, unless there is solid evidence that popular game providers that you mentioned are using the technology shown in the video,
Of course it would be. Casinos are businesses with extremely low morals and ethics. Their business concept itself is exploiting human nature out of its greed and desire to gain more than what they have easily. It would be no surprise at all (in fact it should be expected) that casinos are using dirty tactics like this that people would otherwise would not know unless someone once involved/involved spoke up about it.
do you think, this is possible or they are already doing it? popular game providers like evolution, pragmatic, etc.
Cheating the outcome of roulette is very possible. We can see on the video how the ball moves irregularly. The shaking and going back of the ball while the roulette is spinning cannot be defined scientifically even with the low of motion and the inertia. It is clear on that video that the machine is tempered. Just like how the roulette ball move in this part of the video. There is no way the ball can move like that even with all the small humps bumps that is within that machine.
People should avoided roulete.
And I agree but online or offline roulette has huge followers its a very old game where it is offline and online casinos' main attraction, and not many people know how manipulation is going, they still believe that if you're lucky you're going to win when actually when manipulators happen to pick your spin as the next winner.
Some players already know about the manipulation but they claim they are here for fun, so they prefer to ignore
be done offline.Now, we dont have the idea on what are the possible things that could be rigged up on online roulettes on how results could be altered up into their advantage.Its true that people would really be
just simply sticking out into those casinos which does have that good reputation and popularity on which they would really be instilling into their minds that they've been dealing up on a place which is something fair.
@OP had shown the explanation how the game is rigged and there are also circulating documents [1] on the internet how roulette is being rigged. We should ne very observant to check whether this kind of cheating is being made by the roulette game provider. If there is an abnormal trajectory of the movement of a ball in a roulette, it is obvious that the machine is tampered to rig the result of the game.
[1] https://www.casinonewsdaily.com/roulette-guide/rig-roulette-wheel/
Such thing is possible, remember movies wherein cheating is in form of a switch in roulettes? Quite silly but it is wlso possible. But what can we do? Move to other platforms or change the game you are playing or simply take a pause. Nit because a platform scams or fools you in roulette, it would already mean that other platforms as well would do so; roulette have not exist for years in this industry for nothing. There are people who enjoys playing it and that is I think an enough reason to not generalize. It is not on the game but on the platforms you are playing at. We just cannot order people to avoid a game just because of such possibility.
I thought as much though and I also had to look at my own experience with roulette game I play. It seems there is correlation between what OP has explained and my experience.
I played this game onboard a roulette live game casino and I enjoyed the game and suddenly after some big wins, I started observing some certain changes on the roulette game I play and I noticed this precisely, after I won big, while watching the them count and pack up and after a little while after I had chat on their chat box, their staff came and started again and I placed a big bet this time before they package up which they did not spin the roulette but after the staff came out and we continued, I lost all my heavy bet for that particular set. Ever since then I noticed it I stopped playing at that casino and I also stopped playing roulette game.
I played this game onboard a roulette live game casino and I enjoyed the game and suddenly after some big wins, I started observing some certain changes on the roulette game I play and I noticed this precisely, after I won big, while watching the them count and pack up and after a little while after I had chat on their chat box, their staff came and started again and I placed a big bet this time before they package up which they did not spin the roulette but after the staff came out and we continued, I lost all my heavy bet for that particular set. Ever since then I noticed it I stopped playing at that casino and I also stopped playing roulette game.
This is not something new I watched Videos on Youtube three or four years ago on how offline and online casinos are manipulating the results of roulettes the manipulation is well explained, which is why I seldom play roulette, it keeps playing in my mind that there's manipulation going on on every spin, sometimes it's better not to know secrets of casinos because when you start to spin or roll you have doubts in your mind running.
And that takes away the fun of course at the back of your mind you want to be the lucky guy and win the spin but it should be coming from luck and not from manipulation.
And that takes away the fun of course at the back of your mind you want to be the lucky guy and win the spin but it should be coming from luck and not from manipulation.
People should avoided roulete.
And I agree but online or offline roulette has huge followers its a very old game where it is offline and online casinos' main attraction, and not many people know how manipulation is going, they still believe that if you're lucky you're going to win when actually when manipulators happen to pick your spin as the next winner.
Some players already know about the manipulation but they claim they are here for fun, so they prefer to ignore
be done offline.Now, we dont have the idea on what are the possible things that could be rigged up on online roulettes on how results could be altered up into their advantage.Its true that people would really be
just simply sticking out into those casinos which does have that good reputation and popularity on which they would really be instilling into their minds that they've been dealing up on a place which is something fair.
Now that we are aware on how its been done then people would be keen on observing it out specially on offline or physical casinos.
People should avoided roulete.
And I agree but online or offline roulette has huge followers its a very old game where it is offline and online casinos' main attraction, and not many people know how manipulation is going, they still believe that if you're lucky you're going to win when actually when manipulators happen to pick your spin as the next winner.
Some players already know about the manipulation but they claim they are here for fun, so they prefer to ignore
do you think, this is possible or they are already doing it? popular game providers like evolution, pragmatic, etc.
considering that we cant really point out a solid evidence that they are really doing these things in behind. I cant just believed on what i have seen on the video where they could really possibly
forced up the ball on where it would really be heading on.I cant just believe that this one would really be ending up on getting rigged up on this way.For sure casinos
are already aware for those who had been using this stuff although the video is already 2 years old.
So obviously all of these wins from roulette are just planted in the entire history that it exists and even if they weigh those balls it's still would have results they wanted? My life has all been a lie then. I'm not that of a roulette fan but very certain that I want to avoid this game in the future or never play at all.
Many will still ask for a proof and they will not believe on this easily, well this is how gambling works and even the top site have their own hidden strategy to get more wins over the gamblers. If you want to fee that you are safe from any cheating then play on physical casinos with the card games. Playing with slots are also possible to get cheated, just try to have fun and try to unseen this. Everyone has their own choice anyway, so if you feel you are being cheated, then don't play.
Also, better play on top and reputable sites as they won't ruin their image by cheating allegations.
Because once a site has been proven to be cheating their players, that would be their reason to get out of this game.
Just follow your instincts if you can't see the proof. Sometimes your gut feel will save you from being screwed.
So obviously all of these wins from roulette are just planted in the entire history that it exists and even if they weigh those balls it's still would have results they wanted? My life has all been a lie then. I'm not that of a roulette fan but very certain that I want to avoid this game in the future or never play at all.
Many will still ask for a proof and they will not believe on this easily, well this is how gambling works and even the top site have their own hidden strategy to get more wins over the gamblers. If you want to fee that you are safe from any cheating then play on physical casinos with the card games. Playing with slots are also possible to get cheated, just try to have fun and try to unseen this.
So obviously all of these wins from roulette are just planted in the entire history that it exists and even if they weigh those balls it's still would have results they wanted? My life has all been a lie then. I'm not that of a roulette fan but very certain that I want to avoid this game in the future or never play at all.
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I guess my opinion was right.That's why avoided roulette, only play with bonus amount like Weekly from "Stake". I more prefer a card game rather than rouelete even if the deck was right, If the deck not on our side the out come are against us.
People should avoided roulete.
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I guess my opinion was right.That's why avoided roulette, only play with bonus amount like Weekly from "Stake". I more prefer a card game rather than rouelete even if the deck was right, If the deck not on our side the out come are against us.
People should avoided roulete.
I'm already aware that roulette games are programmed before getting to see this.
It's a business, you wouldn't want everyone to win. How do they then make money from it since the sole aim of business Is to make a profit.
If 10 persons play a roulette spin game, 7 will lose while 3 succeed.
This makes sense because the casinos don't want to see many people who manage to win the game and earn a lot of money. Casinos will do things we may never know and can only guess.It's a business, you wouldn't want everyone to win. How do they then make money from it since the sole aim of business Is to make a profit.
If 10 persons play a roulette spin game, 7 will lose while 3 succeed.
So in the roulette round game, perhaps it has been programmed so that not many people win. But I don't know if it's in a trusted casino, will they do it or won't they do something? But I don't think they would do anything to prevent people from winning at roulette.
I don't play those games that depend on luck like roulettes, but from what I see the roulette games in crypto casinos are provably fair or am I wrong? being that the roulette games of crypto casinos are proven fair so I believe that the providers of roulette games are audited by third parties or even online casinos can audit the roulette game before adding it to their casino with that we can be sure that they are demonstrably fair. now talking about roulette in live casinos I also think that in live casinos all equipment is audited by the government entity that grants licenses to the casino
That is a reputable casino, probably some casinos can use that to cheat, but a reputable casino can not try that because they have house edge already, meaning that no matter how most players play, the casino will make more money from them. If making money is what would happen to casinos as they have more users, then why going for cheating? I do not think any reputable casino would go for this. Since the time I have been playing roulette, I think the game is probably fair too.
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