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newbie
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Todamont,   Thanks for providing the case # for the FINCEN investigation into Titan Mint.  As a 2fa owner of two(2) bitcoins, I too have filed a report against titan mint using the case number you provided.

Thanks again!!
member
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Todamont...thank you very much.  I see you've been dealing with this and Tim for a long time, so i definitely appreciate you passing along this information to someone just finding out about this horror.  I've always loved my Titan coins and the one 2FA coin I have I especially liked because it was first owned by Bithalo/HK and is supposedly the coin pictured in the Encyclopedia.  I always thought that was really cool and I planned on keeping this coin for a long time.  Well, I guess I can still keep it as a pretty little paperweight.  Cheesy

I will be contacting FINCEN today and filing a police report.  Without any communication from Tim or Titan Mint, what else can we do?  This is straight up theft.  And good point about clawbacks.  I've been learning about them in the Celsius fiasco as well.  Wow...2022 was a GREAT crypto year.  Ugh. 

Cheers
sr. member
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Hello, I have received contact from FINCEN and they have opened an investigation into Titan Mint, and Tim Fillmore. If you are a victim of Titan Mint and their fraudulent "2FA coin" scam, please contact FINCEN and reference case #883150, so they can keep track of all claimants on this case.

You can use this form:

https://www.fincen.gov/contact

If you are considering accepting funds from Tim Fillmore, for your 2FA coin, be warned that you could be receiving stolen or "missallocated" funds, which could be liable to "clawback" in criminal and/or civil proceedings, to be fairly redistributed to all victims.



newbie
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I edited my previous comment. You are correct, no one has proven that a key has been swept. They are just not claimable so we cant verify if they have been swept.  The way he did it tho, lets him sweep every single coin that has not been "registered" on his bullshit website. If you just dont rip those people and claim something happened, they would never be able to verify that he swept the keys.

I really wish I didn't see this thread update today Sad Sorry everyone who got snaked. I see he moved the coins a month after we started to check on this again. Good luck everyone.
member
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@RealHummer, thanks for posting your thoughts/reply to Tim???, as it is exactly what I was thinking.  Who is this person give strange elaborate instructions?  Why only give the instruction to you and not post publicly for all to see?

I'm trying to be patient and give some benefit of doubt that our bitcoin wasn't stolen and our 2FA coins are just being 'restructured', but my patience is running thin.  I think if no real progress is made in the next few days, I'll have to fill out a police and FBI FINCEN report.  Not sure what else to do.
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This new development feels very fishy. If it was earnest, wouldn't Tim be on here and other places communicating the recent history of problems and how this plan is going to solve it? Have other people received this communication RealHummer received? I am skeptical. Hopeful but very doubtful.

Steeley

This is what I don't understand.  I am amazed that he moved the coins and never told anyone.  Tim is obviously watching this thread, and was perhaps told by his lawyer not to write anything else here, but you're just making things worse in that regard.  If you had came here to announce this, owners of the 2FAs would be much more confident in this overly complicated redemption process that's been drawn up. 

Why this wasn't announced before the coins were moved is what makes absolutely no sense to me.  Has anyone started working on this process?  I understand wanting to be safe with this and all, but there's surely a better way to do this. 
Havent done anything yet and do not feel comfortable in doing so. See last message I sent but no reply back.



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SEC...as in Security and Exchange Commission?

Yes. It was a project called plexcoin.
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I got refund from SEC at some point.

The refund was settled in $ value on the day I bought.


SEC...as in Security and Exchange Commission?
hero member
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I got refund from SEC at some point.

The refund was settled in $ value on the day I bought.

Probably the same for coins. They don't care BTC is up/down.

They calculate in $

Probably only original buyers will have a claim against Titan. At least if it was in my Country.
sr. member
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I am here to remind you that I was scammed by Tim and lost a bitcoin to this scam back in 2016, and I told you all back then that this would happen.

Consider, why did Cascascius stop selling loaded tokens? Because FINCEN told him it was illegal. But Titan kept doing it, they were selling an illegal product from the very start. I have contacted FINCEN and asked them to open an investigation for money laundering and financial crimes by Tim Fillmore, as a victim of this scam. I'm also contacting the LA police, again, to reopen my case for grand theft against Tim. I am still a victim and I haven't given up my claim against Tim for 1 BTC. I believe that Tim is trying to run a fractional reserve con at this point and he may be trying to cash out redemptions on some tokens with funds stolen from other token-holders.

Consider what you would be selling if you sold a "2FA" coin from Tim. Is it a bitcoin wallet? No, it doesn't have any bitcoin on it. It's a redemption code for a broken website that has a known "corrupt database" of creditors where they would need to actually dox themselves and the entire chain of custody of the coin before MAYBE getting a payout, on an illegal product. It's more like an option for a bitcoin at 0% interest, sold by a person who is not a legal money transmitter or bank. It's arguably an illegal security and you could literally be investigated by FINCEN, for the transaction of selling it. So 2FA tokens have zero resale value right now, and they actually represent a liability, not an asset.

Can Tim post a list of all the addresses of all the coins and prove that they are all backed by bitcoin? No, clearly he can't because his database of creditors is "corrupted". What percentage of the token-holders will find that their tokens were "never funded", like mine? Nobody knows how much unfunded liability Tim has because of these unfunded tokens, or whether their coin will turn up "already redeemed" or "never funded" when they go to turn them in for redemption. My belief is that when Tim realized that I had bought my token second-hand and didn't have the password, he CHANGED his database to show my token as never funded, so he could rob me.

>> Step 3: Reply to the email that was sent to the coin's registration address

ok so Tim is trying to invalidate any tokens that were resold. lol, scam. That's exactly how he scammed me! Again reinforcing my point that any 2FA tokens have zero resale value and require doxxing of an entire chain of custody of owners and trust in Tim that he won't claim any one of them "already redeemed" it or that it was originally lost in the mail and so "never funded". This is what I will note in my FELONY POLICE REPORT to the LA police, that I will file again this week. If this goes to trial, how will Tim defend himself? He has already admitted that he has several versions of his database with conflicting records, and that it is "corrupted". He would instantly lose his court case on these grounds, and he knows it, that's why he's not showing his fucking face. Because the money is gone.

I actually found my original receipt for my token recently after my messages on this site were restored, but there's no way in fuck I would implicate anyone else or force them to be a part of this shit party. I can say that the user who sold me my token also sold me copper tokens from Mulligan Mint which were recently authenticated by ICG as some of the first coins to ever bear the bitcoin logo, so I believe they were/are a legit seller. I don't have their email address, though, only their username on this site, and it's a long-dormant account. Guess I'm still SOL, even if it had been a "funded" token.

Now also consider the stance of MoparMiningLLC, representative of Ballet Crypto, a company that sells physical wallets with privkeys printed on them. He has come to a scam thread where people lost tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands to a physical wallet scam, to advertise a physical wallet product. That is in such poor taste that it boggles the mind, only a true lowlife sleazebag asshole would do such a thing. I am here to say, anyone selling physical wallets with privkeys printed on them is a SCAMMER, including MoparMiningLLC and Ballet Crypto.

Mopar has come here to accuse the VICTIMS of scamming Tim! Utterly ridiculous. MoparMiningLLC has insinuated that I, as the FIRST VICTIM who warned all the others, don't deserve to be compensated for my loss to this scam, because I went to the police and insisted on a court adjudicated outcome, after becoming convinced that this is a criminal scam, rather than taking a payoff from the scammer.

Mopar has suggested that this product, which was sold illegally, and now has dozens of people claiming to have lost access to hundreds of thousands of dollars, and has admittedly corrupted the database of their creditors, may not be a scam if Tim oneday shows back up and makes MOST of the victims whole again (but not me). These are such insane claims that they should be a huge red flag for anyone to see that they should stay MILES AWAY from the scammer MoparMiningLLC and his Ballet Wallet scammer friends with an office in communist China. Mopar mining is a physical wallet scam artist, and he is an ACCOMPLICE to the Titan Mint scam, for coming here to abuse and harass the victims and for his continued suggestions that the Titan Mint scam is actually not a scam.

If Tim is not using his normal website and his normal email, it is 100% to avoid law enforcement. I would ask the other victims to contact FINCEN, as I have done, so we can get a collective judgement, rather than taking funds from Tim which are likely stolen from other token-holder victims.
legendary
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This new development feels very fishy. If it was earnest, wouldn't Tim be on here and other places communicating the recent history of problems and how this plan is going to solve it? Have other people received this communication RealHummer received? I am skeptical. Hopeful but very doubtful.

Steeley

This is what I don't understand.  I am amazed that he moved the coins and never told anyone.  Tim is obviously watching this thread, and was perhaps told by his lawyer not to write anything else here, but you're just making things worse in that regard.  If you had came here to announce this, owners of the 2FAs would be much more confident in this overly complicated redemption process that's been drawn up. 

Why this wasn't announced before the coins were moved is what makes absolutely no sense to me.  Has anyone started working on this process?  I understand wanting to be safe with this and all, but there's surely a better way to do this. 
sr. member
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This new development feels very fishy. If it was earnest, wouldn't Tim be on here and other places communicating the recent history of problems and how this plan is going to solve it? Have other people received this communication RealHummer received? I am skeptical. Hopeful but very doubtful.

Steeley
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sad to see people still out money to this scam!

It is amazing how much effort and money went into this project only to see it result in either A) a scam, or B) a really poor thought out process for their customers.  I never owned a Titan Mint coin because they didn't seem to earn the trust they were demanding of their customers (pretty typical here really as scammers try to FUD the trusted makers and hype up their alt account's scams).  I still don't know if this was a planned scam or just a really poorly thought out model, but either way the customers are the losers here.  A shame, but a good example of why 2fa isn't a viable replacement for an honest and trustworthy maker. 
legendary
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Disobey.
So heres the latest. I did receive a text this am and he has followed up via email. I need to make sure its 100 percent legit before I fall for a scam.



Hello,

Thank you for reaching out regarding your coins.  With the website currently down for rehabilitation, all coin redemption is being performed manually.

Manual coin redemption requires additional verification in order to ensure that we send a coin's BTC to the current rightful owner.  We appreciate your patience with this process, as it has been created to hopefully eliminate the possibility for fraudulent coin redemption.

The steps for manual redemption need to be followed in the order below for us to proceed:

Step 1. Provide Photo authentication that meets the following criteria
A.) The hologram side of the coin must be facing the camera.  Either the coin ID or the redemption code that is beneath the hologram must be legible.
B.) The hologram must be peeled, and the security pattern that appears when the hologram has been peeled must be visible in the photo.  
C.) A photo ID of the current owner of the coin, with enough detail to verify name and address, must be visible in the photo.
D.) The current date must be handwritten on a piece of paper that is visible in the photo (i.e. "January 1, 2023").  

You may include multiple coins in one photo as long as all the information requested above is clearly visible and legible.  Software is used to verify the photo's authenticity and identify any possible tampering.  Photos that have been edited, compressed, or are blurry or unclear in any way will not pass this verification.  We will notify you if additional photos are needed.

Step 2: Provide the BTC address and coin owner's residential address info
We will ask you to sign an agreement verifying that the redemption information is correct before making the transfer of BTC to your address.  This agreement will include the BTC address that your coin's value will be transferred to, as well as the residential address of the coin's current owner.  Please provide this information as text in a reply to this email.

Step 3: Reply to the email that was sent to the coin's registration address
We will send an email to the address that is on file for the coin's registration asking for authorization to redeem.  Please simply reply to that email with a confirmation that redemption is authorized.

Step 4: Sign the redemption agreement
We will fill in your bitcoin address and residential address and send you an agreement to sign which indicates that you agree to the terms of the manual coin redemption process.  As soon as that agreement is signed, your BTC can be transferred to your designated address.  This will be an e-signature unless you request to have a paper copy mailed to you.

If you have any questions or concerns regarding this process, please reply to this email and we'll work to respond as quickly as possible.  Thank you again for your patience.

- Titan Bitcoin Security Team





That's just crazy regarding the fact they minted hundrets of 2fa coins, if I am not mistaken?
Why not just setup the web-service for the 2fa redemption again?

Seems to me, that this manual process is prone to result in scam attempts, besides the fact it's insanely slow and unprofessional.

Also, like mentioned by smoothie already, this could be an elaborate scam-attempt - so unless you are 100% sure you are dealing with Titan-mint (probably just Tim?) DO NOT send any sensitive information.
copper member
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So heres the latest. I did receive a text this am and he has followed up via email. I need to make sure its 100 percent legit before I fall for a scam.



Hello,

Thank you for reaching out regarding your coins.  With the website currently down for rehabilitation, all coin redemption is being performed manually.

Manual coin redemption requires additional verification in order to ensure that we send a coin's BTC to the current rightful owner.  We appreciate your patience with this process, as it has been created to hopefully eliminate the possibility for fraudulent coin redemption.

The steps for manual redemption need to be followed in the order below for us to proceed:

Step 1. Provide Photo authentication that meets the following criteria
A.) The hologram side of the coin must be facing the camera.  Either the coin ID or the redemption code that is beneath the hologram must be legible.
B.) The hologram must be peeled, and the security pattern that appears when the hologram has been peeled must be visible in the photo. 
C.) A photo ID of the current owner of the coin, with enough detail to verify name and address, must be visible in the photo.
D.) The current date must be handwritten on a piece of paper that is visible in the photo (i.e. "January 1, 2023"). 

You may include multiple coins in one photo as long as all the information requested above is clearly visible and legible.  Software is used to verify the photo's authenticity and identify any possible tampering.  Photos that have been edited, compressed, or are blurry or unclear in any way will not pass this verification.  We will notify you if additional photos are needed.

Step 2: Provide the BTC address and coin owner's residential address info
We will ask you to sign an agreement verifying that the redemption information is correct before making the transfer of BTC to your address.  This agreement will include the BTC address that your coin's value will be transferred to, as well as the residential address of the coin's current owner.  Please provide this information as text in a reply to this email.

Step 3: Reply to the email that was sent to the coin's registration address
We will send an email to the address that is on file for the coin's registration asking for authorization to redeem.  Please simply reply to that email with a confirmation that redemption is authorized.

Step 4: Sign the redemption agreement
We will fill in your bitcoin address and residential address and send you an agreement to sign which indicates that you agree to the terms of the manual coin redemption process.  As soon as that agreement is signed, your BTC can be transferred to your designated address.  This will be an e-signature unless you request to have a paper copy mailed to you.

If you have any questions or concerns regarding this process, please reply to this email and we'll work to respond as quickly as possible.  Thank you again for your patience.

- Titan Bitcoin Security Team




What email do we reply all this information to, to test if it works?
legendary
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If - heavy emphasis on “if” - Titan makes everyone whole, then it would be more along the lines of “negligent” than “scam” - really hoping to hear people are actually redeeming the 2fa’s

Shitty to make em all kyc to this degree though just to redeem the coin
newbie
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sad to see people still out money to this scam!
member
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DAMN!  I am just now learning about this issue with the 2FA coins, one of which I have. 

I just checked walletexplorer.com and sure enough, it shows that 1 BTC was swept from my coin to address bc1qx6u6v7xxx9q7l42wr3vx6e28c2ftkj8220vruu on 11/16/2022.   

Shit...I feel so gut punched right now.


So, what is the consensus?  Has anyone followed the directions above and actually received their 1 BTC and all forks back???

It sounds like none of the PK coins have been compromised, but I have to think that since the 2FA coin balances were swept without our knowledge or approval, Titan Tim must also have copies of ALL private keys for ALL Titan Coins.  No?  Sorry if this has been covered already.  The thread was kind of long and the drama in the middle was getting old and annoying, so I was skimming at end.


This SUCKS!  I love my Titan coins.  I would hate to have to peel them all.

BTW, I live in Southern California so if there is anything I can do to help, please let me know. 

Cheers
legendary
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So heres the latest. I did receive a text this am and he has followed up via email. I need to make sure its 100 percent legit before I fall for a scam.



Hello,

Thank you for reaching out regarding your coins.  With the website currently down for rehabilitation, all coin redemption is being performed manually.

Manual coin redemption requires additional verification in order to ensure that we send a coin's BTC to the current rightful owner.  We appreciate your patience with this process, as it has been created to hopefully eliminate the possibility for fraudulent coin redemption.

The steps for manual redemption need to be followed in the order below for us to proceed:

Step 1. Provide Photo authentication that meets the following criteria
A.) The hologram side of the coin must be facing the camera.  Either the coin ID or the redemption code that is beneath the hologram must be legible.
B.) The hologram must be peeled, and the security pattern that appears when the hologram has been peeled must be visible in the photo.  
C.) A photo ID of the current owner of the coin, with enough detail to verify name and address, must be visible in the photo.
D.) The current date must be handwritten on a piece of paper that is visible in the photo (i.e. "January 1, 2023").  

You may include multiple coins in one photo as long as all the information requested above is clearly visible and legible.  Software is used to verify the photo's authenticity and identify any possible tampering.  Photos that have been edited, compressed, or are blurry or unclear in any way will not pass this verification.  We will notify you if additional photos are needed.

Step 2: Provide the BTC address and coin owner's residential address info
We will ask you to sign an agreement verifying that the redemption information is correct before making the transfer of BTC to your address.  This agreement will include the BTC address that your coin's value will be transferred to, as well as the residential address of the coin's current owner.  Please provide this information as text in a reply to this email.

Step 3: Reply to the email that was sent to the coin's registration address
We will send an email to the address that is on file for the coin's registration asking for authorization to redeem.  Please simply reply to that email with a confirmation that redemption is authorized.

Step 4: Sign the redemption agreement
We will fill in your bitcoin address and residential address and send you an agreement to sign which indicates that you agree to the terms of the manual coin redemption process.  As soon as that agreement is signed, your BTC can be transferred to your designated address.  This will be an e-signature unless you request to have a paper copy mailed to you.

If you have any questions or concerns regarding this process, please reply to this email and we'll work to respond as quickly as possible.  Thank you again for your patience.

- Titan Bitcoin Security Team





Thanks RealHummer for the update. Hope you are able to get your issue resolved with Titan.

Just curious,

Why is this not being posted by Tim himself on bitcointalk.org and that this is being posted by a 3rd party after such a long absence when Titan customers have been trying to reach out to obtain help in redeeming the 2FA coins that require TitanBTC's systems to be in working order?

Moreso, if legit, why is this not posted on the front page of titanbtc.com?

Q: Why were customer funds moved without making them aware of this? Why did it take a random user checking their balance to notify the forum community after almost 3 months of customer funds being moved?

Q: If Titan (Tim) could move the 2FA coin funds, why did he not just do this proposed process above and provide the customer with the proper information to move the funds themselves? This makes no sense.

The idea of requiring someone to send photos of specific coin information and personal information in an unencrypted manner that (may/could) expose someone to being scammed doesn't sound like the brightest idea.

Just my 0.02BTC
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Makes it sound like a scam
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