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July 20, 2015, 04:54:52 PM
#32
Would think if you had gender issues,you would also have other life issues that tag a long for the ride.
May create this whole mask of yourself till you eventually are prepared to come out.



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July 20, 2015, 03:30:37 PM
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BE AFRAID: MEDIA GLOSSES OVER REPEATED THREATS OF VIOLENCE FROM LGBT-ER


In a free society we understand, cherish and protect the right of speech. All kinds of speech. Primarily offensive speech with which we disagree. In order to remain civilized, we draw a big red line between speech and violence. This includes threats of violence. Once violence or threats of violence become accepted, we are no longer a civil society. The media collective glossing over Zoey Tur’s threats of physical violence against Breitbart’s Ben Shapiro should worry all of us.

During a Thursday evening appearance on HLN’s “Dr. Drew On Call,” Shapiro and Tur (a man who identifies as a woman) got into a heated exchange over biology. Like many of us, Shapiro could not care less how anyone defines one’s self, but he will not be shamed or bullied into the sharing the delusion of another’s personal self-expression. A man is a man. A woman is a woman. During their exchange, Shapiro referred to Tur as “sir,” and only then was the red line crossed.

Before Tur physically threatened Shapiro, the exchange was just the usual-usual cable news fodder. Then Tur went way over the line; he physically grabbed Shapiro’s neck and seethed,  “You cut that out now, or you’ll go home in an ambulance.”

According to Shapiro, Tur threatened him again after the show. HLN staffers were concerned enough to walk Shapiro to his car but only after they were sure Tur had left the premises. The next day on social media, Tur threatened to “curb-stomp” Shapiro — threatened a Jewish man with an act associated with Neo-Nazis.

There is no question that Tur’s behavior is out of line, maybe criminal, and a possible symptom of an unstable mind (many in the medical community believe the transgendered are mentally ill). Frustrated by science-based facts and having no fact-based counter-point, Tur turned to violence. We’ve seen this before. We will again. Individual bullies are no reason to wake the whole town with the church bell.

What is cause for alarm is when our media glosses over and even celebrates the crossing of the line from speech to threats of violence — which is exactly what our media did.

Many in our media either covered up Tur’s threats of violence with headlines that turned the exchange into a “heated” moral equivalence, or outright attacked Shapiro.

A sampling:

Salon: Ben Shapiro tries — and spectacularly fails — to humiliate trans woman Zoey Tur:

Mediaite: Ben Shapiro and Transgender Reporter Get Heated on HLN

HLN(!): The moment this transgender debate got heated

The Wrap: Transgender Journalist, Breitbart Editor Nearly Come to Blows During Caitlyn Jenner Debate

Some in the media covered the story accurately. Most of the media ignored the story entirely, almost certainly because the story was inconvenient to the media’s ongoing left-wing agenda.

There is no question that had Shapiro grabbed Tur’s neck and later used social media  to threaten to “curb-stomp” him, that Shapiro’s career would be over today because the story would be the biggest media storm in the country.

But because Tur is a member of a protected status — LGBT — almost all of the media is either ignoring, excusing, glossing over, and even cheering unacceptable violent behavior — because in their minds “the target” is the “correct” one.

If you want another science-based fact… Tur’s violent behavior and the media either looking the other way or championing it based solely on the identity of the bully and the identity of the victim is something right out of the early days of Nazi Germany.

What happened between Tur and Shapiro, and more importantly the media’s reaction to it, is a canary in a coalmine.

The Left’s push for gay rights was never about live and let live.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/07/18/be-afraid-media-glosses-over-repeated-threats-of-violence-from-lgbt-er/


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July 20, 2015, 03:18:37 PM
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Christians, if you believe your Christ would have anything other than infinite compassion for homosexuals, transfolk, or atheists, than you have grossly misunderstood the teachings of your messiah.

Would argue that statement is also based on perception.
Well, the question might be what would Christ have thought if he had encountered the opinionated, arrogant Pink Mafia of today.

Got a feeling "infinite compassion" would not have applied...more like his little encounter with the money changers in the temple, that's my opinion.
Then as now, usury was predatory and cruel. Your messiah probably recognized that, if the temple story is true.

There is nothing cruel or predatory about strangers sharing orgasms in ways your invisible sky father doesn't approve. It doesn't affect you. Christian hatred of homosexuality does affect gay american teens though,  to the point that they're three times as likely to commit suicide as straight teens.

Nice try I am a atheist. Least till the last breath and maybe I might cover all bases. Never know till the lights go out.
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July 20, 2015, 03:09:34 PM
#29
Christian hatred

Christian hatred is an oxymoron. Wink
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July 20, 2015, 03:08:10 PM
#28
Christians, if you believe your Christ would have anything other than infinite compassion for homosexuals, transfolk, or atheists, than you have grossly misunderstood the teachings of your messiah.

Would argue that statement is also based on perception.
Well, the question might be what would Christ have thought if he had encountered the opinionated, arrogant Pink Mafia of today.

Got a feeling "infinite compassion" would not have applied...more like his little encounter with the money changers in the temple, that's my opinion.
Then as now, usury was predatory and cruel. Your messiah probably recognized that, if the temple story is true.

There is nothing cruel or predatory about strangers sharing orgasms in ways your invisible sky father doesn't approve. It doesn't affect you. Christian hatred of homosexuality does affect gay american teens though,  to the point that they're three times as likely to commit suicide as straight teens.
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July 20, 2015, 02:30:15 PM
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Christians, if you believe your Christ would have anything other than infinite compassion for homosexuals, transfolk, or atheists, than you have grossly misunderstood the teachings of your messiah.

Would argue that statement is also based on perception.
Well, the question might be what would Christ have thought if he had encountered the opinionated, arrogant Pink Mafia of today.

Got a feeling "infinite compassion" would not have applied...more like his little encounter with the money changers in the temple, that's my opinion.

Regardless, Bel's attempts at lecturing on the interest are just plain boring.
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July 20, 2015, 01:58:23 PM
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Christians, if you believe your Christ would have anything other than infinite compassion for homosexuals, transfolk, or atheists, than you have grossly misunderstood the teachings of your messiah.

Would argue that statement is also based on perception.
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July 20, 2015, 11:54:24 AM
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Christians, if you believe your Christ would have anything other than infinite compassion for homosexuals, transfolk, or atheists, than you have grossly misunderstood the teachings of your messiah.
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July 20, 2015, 09:47:03 AM
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whoever is born a man is a man,

Nobody's born a man. Men are made, requiring a solid 20-something years of social conditioning/brainwashing to get out of their ugly ball of baby-fat phase, followed by the ugly child phase, then the teenage bitching phase, before finally fitting into society's man stereotype. It's basically a giant fashion statement.

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these folks are mentally ill and need treatment, if they told you they were ducks or aliens from outer space trapped in human beings' bodies would you believe them
How do you know you're not? Have you seriously never considered that you might be a space alien trapped in a human suit?

Nonsense.  Here are some facts on birth rates and facts on gender to start with.  You are pushing a political not a biological agenda.

http://www.isna.org/faq/frequency
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July 20, 2015, 02:01:51 AM
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Quote from: blablahblah link=topic=1127587.msg11915235#msg11915235
How do you know you're [i
not[/i]? Have you seriously never considered that you might be a space alien trapped in a human suit?
am half greek and our gods were extraterrestrials who mixed their dna with humans so i guess its sort of true
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July 19, 2015, 05:24:25 PM
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Above post was in reference to Cooldgamer and his link to this site and a pdf there. Which was erased for some reason.

http://www.avp.org/
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July 19, 2015, 05:20:55 PM
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Have no issue with how people proceed in life as long as its not hurting others.

The violence aspect is sad and I read a large segment of the homeless youth fall into the LGBT fold as well.

My axe is not with the individual as much as the movement.

Here are some examples off the top of my head:

Fights over bathrooms and who has the right to use what bathroom.
A transgender locally trying to get sex removed from birth certification and drivers licenses
Teachers forcing kids to try on the other sex role and dress up
Parents wanting to be able to change the sex of their children under the age of six

These movements are fine,but these always try to grab more then they should and start stepping on people toes in the process.
Its the same issue I have with GreenPeace,Enviromentalism,Vegans,NoBorders and like groups. There is a segment that will keep pushing
till we all are thinking wtf happened here!
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July 19, 2015, 03:41:41 PM
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Has little to do with god and more to do with wiring of the brain. I can except most things as long as they do not tearing up my backyard to make themselves feel comfortable.
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July 19, 2015, 03:27:48 PM
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This seems to be a big hot topic lately and I still can not understand it. If you are a male wanting to be a female,which sex are you attracted to? Does that even factor in?
I read or heard that most cross dressers tend to be straight,its just a fetish but the transgender as far as I know goes past dressing up.

The gay population is small and I imagine the transgender pop to be even smaller. Yet we have a movement to push their agenda on us to till they feel comfortable.
Jenner has killed some one and that seems to be pushed to the side because the transgenders need a voice.

Find it to be a interesting subject due to all the dark rabbit holes you can go down.




http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/peter-berg-receives-backlash-shot-caitlyn-jenner-article-1.2294351


http://www.tmz.com/2015/02/07/bruce-jenner-fatal-car-accident-pacific-coast-highway-malibu-photo-dead/


Watch out what you say. And remember the quote from the book Animal Farm: "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Farm

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may be everypeople wants to expretion the what its they want.
but, i don't agree with this choice. cause God born you with your destiny have readed by God.
be yourself, but not change what the God give to your body.  if i thing like that.
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July 19, 2015, 11:55:55 AM
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This seems to be a big hot topic lately and I still can not understand it. If you are a male wanting to be a female,which sex are you attracted to? Does that even factor in?
I read or heard that most cross dressers tend to be straight,its just a fetish but the transgender as far as I know goes past dressing up.

The gay population is small and I imagine the transgender pop to be even smaller. Yet we have a movement to push their agenda on us to till they feel comfortable.

What's wrong with everybody feeling comfortable?  People shouldn't be assholes no matter what the situation, and this subset of the population gets a lot of them.

The problem is not everyone is comfortable with this. Being an asshole is a long respected American right and past time enshrined in the constitution. Can you tell me any other subset of the population that has protection from people "being assholes"? This is not equality, this is supremacy. Homosexuals and transgender people have equality to a very large extent in the US, but these activist groups would be redundant if they admitted that now wouldn't they?

Now they are trying to force the population to agree with and support their world views, and this they DO NOT have a right to do. Just like gays have a right to laugh at how stupid bible thumpers are, those bible thumpers are also free to have their own opinions of homosexuals and transgender people. Tolerance is not equivalent to acceptance. Homosexuals have a right to tolerance (like everyone else), no one has a right to acceptance - this is just reality for everyone.
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July 19, 2015, 07:49:25 AM
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whoever is born a man is a man, these folks are mentally ill and need treatment, if they told you they were ducks or aliens from outer space trapped in human beings' bodies would you believe them

Doctors are a part of the problem. They suggest surgery to "release" a person's inner sexual being.
Just because sex change operations are an option, transgenders consider them.
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July 19, 2015, 05:22:32 AM
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whoever is born a man is a man, these folks are mentally ill and need treatment, if they told you they were ducks or aliens from outer space trapped in human beings' bodies would you believe them

Based on your avatar, message and signature, you seem a very nice and enjoyable person. I wish I could hug you to death.
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July 19, 2015, 04:10:48 AM
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whoever is born a man is a man, these folks are mentally ill and need treatment, if they told you they were ducks or aliens from outer space trapped in human beings' bodies would you believe them
Men and women can both live satisfying lives and be functioning members of society, ducks and aliens.... Not so much.  I'd feel bad for anybody with dysphoria making them think they are one of the above, thankfully nobody does.

We do have treatment, its called transition.  Many choose to go with just therapy instead, its whatever works best for the person.
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July 19, 2015, 03:43:45 AM
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whoever is born a man is a man,

Nobody's born a man. Men are made, requiring a solid 20-something years of social conditioning/brainwashing to get out of their ugly ball of baby-fat phase, followed by the ugly child phase, then the teenage bitching phase, before finally fitting into society's man stereotype. It's basically a giant fashion statement.

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these folks are mentally ill and need treatment, if they told you they were ducks or aliens from outer space trapped in human beings' bodies would you believe them
How do you know you're not? Have you seriously never considered that you might be a space alien trapped in a human suit?
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July 19, 2015, 02:45:25 AM
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whoever is born a man is a man, these folks are mentally ill and need treatment, if they told you they were ducks or aliens from outer space trapped in human beings' bodies would you believe them
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