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Quote from: CLS63 on January 21, 2023, 01:46:50 PM

I also don't want to be fascinated by Manchester City's squad too much. I believe they have the best squad among the Champions League teams now.

But this doesn't guarantee anything for them about winning the title anyway. Haaland is of course an incredible addition as we have witnessed his performance so far. However there are still matches that they lose very unexpectedly in the end. Maybe they will get stuck in one of the stages in the Champions League like the previous season. Who knows maybe Real Madrid would be their opponent again and we would see a similar scenario. Guardiola has a really difficult task to perform for reaching the title.

Manchester City have a better squad and they are one of the most successful team in the Champions league, Manchester City have been struggling to win the Champions league but I'm not still sure if they can get it this season. The Champions league in this season is very competitive with other strong teams.

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we all know that Dortmund prioritize selling players over winning titles, although they have come far in the champions league they are undoubtedly more interested in selling their best players so chelsea will be playing Dortmund without their good players, I don't even know to what extent dortmund already sold players this january but i'm guessing they sold their best players

Despite Dortmund selling their best players, their performances are still quite good. However, they are not consistently performing well. But Dortmund's players have the ability to beat a big team like Chelsea. Moreover, Chelsea is perhaps a renowned team. But this season their performance is not stable. The Chelsea team is now in the 10th place in the Premier League points table. And so it would be foolish to think that Chelsea can easily win against Dortmund. It will be challenging for Chelsea to win this match as well.

Very interesting to see Chelsea performance because they were very active in this transfer window and apparently Potter want to rebuild Chelsea and if we see Chelsea current squad they have very complete players on every positions but lets see whether those new players will adapt quickly with Potter strategy or not but their new player Joao Felix has worst debut that on premier league he got red card which caused he will be punished suspension however seems Chelsea has promising squad and lets see in the next few matches whether they can improve their performance using new players or not but if Chelsea performance getting better I think beat Dortmund isn't hard for them

Madueke, Joao Felix, Fofana, and Mudryk, are the latest players that have joined Chelsea, if u check those players non of them is a midfielder for that one shouldn't say that Chelsea has very complete players in every position. Chelsea still has a big problem and that is the midfield. If you make a careful analysis from the past matches, u will discover that their mistake all came from the midfield. I am so surprised that they have little taste in fixing it.

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Please even with Haaland at the club they still won't have been the favorite. Haaland with all the talents at Manchester city that he has at his service can't still perform against Chelsea. I'm not talking about the team entirely but just the individual performance by Haaland. For Manchester city to even destroy us they had to bench Haaland. A typical number 9 is easier to defend against then a false 9. Last year tournament Chelsea were right there up to the round of 16 but we're eliminated by the team that went on to win the tournament which we still defeated at the second leg.

Chelsea are definitely a force at the champions League level, we have been making name for ourselves recently and that have earn up two trophies. It mightn't be much in numbers but when it comes to the champion league, that's definitely a big flex. What has Dortmund gotten, they're a small club and one who Chelsea doesn't have to stress themselves against to win them.

I think that Dortmund would have been definitely making them the favourites on this game. In fact, I do see them as equals right now even without Haaland so with Haaland I would say 1.70 odds on Dortmund type of deal. Why do I see Dortmund to have any chances? Because Chelsea has sucked recently and they have been playing terrible football, even when Dortmund is not good, Chelsea is even worse.

I think Chelsea has a chance to win, and they are "slight" favourites in this game but at the end of the day the difference between the clubs is smaller than the difference Haaland could make, if he was still there then he would have taken Dortmund to a win.

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on January 21, 2023, 03:04:29 AM

Please even with Haaland at the club they still won't have been the favorite. Haaland with all the talents at Manchester city that he has at his service can't still perform against Chelsea. I'm not talking about the team entirely but just the individual performance by Haaland. For Manchester city to even destroy us they had to bench Haaland. A typical number 9 is easier to defend against then a false 9. Last year tournament Chelsea were right there up to the round of 16 but we're eliminated by the team that went on to win the tournament which we still defeated at the second leg.

Chelsea are definitely a force at the champions League level, we have been making name for ourselves recently and that have earn up two trophies. It mightn't be much in numbers but when it comes to the champion league, that's definitely a big flex. What has Dortmund gotten, they're a small club and one who Chelsea doesn't have to stress themselves against to win them.

I think that Dortmund would have been definitely making them the favourites on this game. In fact, I do see them as equals right now even without Haaland so with Haaland I would say 1.70 odds on Dortmund type of deal. Why do I see Dortmund to have any chances? Because Chelsea has sucked recently and they have been playing terrible football, even when Dortmund is not good, Chelsea is even worse.

I think Chelsea has a chance to win, and they are "slight" favourites in this game but at the end of the day the difference between the clubs is smaller than the difference Haaland could make, if he was still there then he would have taken Dortmund to a win.

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Quote from: CLS63 on January 21, 2023, 01:46:50 PM

I also don't want to be fascinated by Manchester City's squad too much. I believe they have the best squad among the Champions League teams now.

But this doesn't guarantee anything for them about winning the title anyway. Haaland is of course an incredible addition as we have witnessed his performance so far. However there are still matches that they lose very unexpectedly in the end. Maybe they will get stuck in one of the stages in the Champions League like the previous season. Who knows maybe Real Madrid would be their opponent again and we would see a similar scenario. Guardiola has a really difficult task to perform for reaching the title.

City last year, even in games with crisis Atlético experienced problems. They could lose even before they meet Real (if Real go far at all). City have a great squad and probably in a round-robin tournament they would be clear favorites, but in knockout games, how the bookmakers evaluate them is simply ridiculous - the odds for City to win the Champions League are 2.45. In second place is Bayern with a chance of 6.45. Absolute nonsense. City is not so stronger than all the others.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on January 21, 2023, 09:53:46 AM

Dortmund is not doing well in the Bundesliga, Chelsea are playing unsuccessful matches in the Premier league. I'm quite curious about the pairing between the two. If there is one thing I know, it is that I am eagerly waiting for this match to be played. Chelsea's players are better and they're a few qualities better than Dortmund. Dortmund will try hard and they definitely have a chance. Still, as I said, I see Chelsea as the team that is close to passing the round.

If the judgement case is only performance in domestic league then Chelsea is also not doing good and having 10th spot after 20 rounds and their activeness in transfer market is also not the guaranteed to have better results in coming days but still having any prediction about this match is not easy because tomorrow we will have first match after long break for Borussia Dortmund in Bundesliga which will give how things will be for them in coming days but still both teams needs to work on their performance as now we have few days left in this big game.

Even most chances Chelsea could be better team, but they need to work on their attack which is not giving them positive results, and they are consistently failed to have required results now in coming days with these new signings Chelsea able to perform better than surely we can expect better results otherwise things are balanced, and any team can win in this game.

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Saying Madrid is not in the favorites I agree but when saying Madrid is weak I don't really agree with that.
As for the actual Favorites in recent seasons it has remained the same and Manchester City has obviously always been at the forefront but the problem is as you said not all predictions are right especially for the Champions League. It's not impossible that this season there will be some surprises even though for those who are in the final it's clear that only the top teams will be there.

I don't know why people keep saying real madrid was not even strong. This is also happening since last year but yeah real Madrid was always winning UCL so many times what makes them called that the real madrid club a weak club. that's a very weird statement for me to see that. It seems like those people didn't know how good real Madrid is. Bookies were also underestimating real Madrid at this moment by giving bad odds for Madrid. I don't know why bookies were preferring Liverpool in the upcoming match rather than real madrid. Madrid has a bad odd during the first leg of last 16 against Liverpool.

They always underestimate Madrid, even though they see that some of their previous favorite teams, such as Liverpool or PSG, currently don't look too good in the Champions League compared to Madrid.
But indeed, as long as you think that Madrid is weak, this is actually a very good opportunity, considering that last season was also like this and the results were very good for Madrid.

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I also don't want to be fascinated by Manchester City's squad too much. I believe they have the best squad among the Champions League teams now.

But this doesn't guarantee anything for them about winning the title anyway. Haaland is of course an incredible addition as we have witnessed his performance so far. However there are still matches that they lose very unexpectedly in the end. Maybe they will get stuck in one of the stages in the Champions League like the previous season. Who knows maybe Real Madrid would be their opponent again and we would see a similar scenario. Guardiola has a really difficult task to perform for reaching the title.

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Quote from: bitgov on January 21, 2023, 01:07:19 PM

PSG attack is very strong Messi-Neymar, Mbappe they are in great form. But one of the best performances of the team is not being noticed will be the defense line. PSG's defense will need to do some great work to stop the opposition's attacks.

That is if they are in the squad but look at some of the games when one of Neymar, Messi and Mbappe weren't there they were terrible at finishing and that is evident by the few games they did not go well when one of their star players was absent.
Hopefully when the match later for the Champions League all three are in prime condition so they can provide the best resistance for Bayern.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on January 21, 2023, 11:17:49 AM

And Chelsea winning the Champions League will be one of my biggest shock in football history, if I was told Chelsea would be Champions of Europe I'd never come to full agreement with anyone.
Manchester City who splashed the cash has lost when they came so close to winning the Champions League twice which has made Pep Guardiola frustrated. Lossing to Chelsea during the finals and also to Real Madrid after leading comfortably, they slacked and let Real Madrid take the win.

Real Madrid are very poor in the link up from midfied to defense, if they don't improve they're going no where near the Champions League Finals. Major tips would fall on Paris Saint Germans and Manchester City to win the Champions League.

Realistically every result is possible, and every team can win from here because now we have just top 16 teams and these all are coming out after having tough matches which give them good strength and experience as well which will help them for having positive results in these knock out matches so if Chelsea will win this will be surely shocking but still possible because they have good quality players, and they are capable of giving their best in any condition because they are involved in soccer for the years.

Now every one is talking about his favourite team as they are heading for the next rounds and usual teams are also involved with their quality but not good chance to win because it's not all about money it's also about skills and technique and luck as well right now we have all teams in chance for this year's crown but PSG, Manchester City are in the best shape for breaking barriers of their unlucky loses in the past.

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Real Madrid is a very strong team. Every player in their team is performing very well. But I don't see any chance for them in the Champions League. In some matches, they are ensuring defeat due to their own mistakes.

That means they are not strong enough yet
This season's Champions League has very tight competition, several teams such as Paris Saint-Germain, Manchester City and Napoli have improved their performance this season, this competitive situation will make it difficult for Real Madrid to survive in the Champions League with what they currently have.
Carlo Ancelotti needs to make improvements to Real Madrid's core squad

In last season, they were also not strong and won the Champions League because it's nature of this event mostly strong sides loses and have not fair chance to win, and we have teams which are not in limelight done good job and take the honour with this all in current season we have few teams which are not in limelight but have chance to do things like we have in past many times.

PSG and Manchester City both are favourite for many seasons and never achieve anything positive, with now we have Napoli. Liverpool and Chelsea which are not good and have chance of elimination early but can do things good and win of the title.

Carlos Ancelotti is surely one of the best person who is currently taking care of this all in Real Madrid and having all his strategy how things will go after their losing against Barcelona and now having better results for the future.

PSG attack is very strong Messi-Neymar, Mbappe they are in great form. But one of the best performances of the team is not being noticed will be the defense line. PSG's defense will need to do some great work to stop the opposition's attacks.

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Real Madrid is a very strong team. Every player in their team is performing very well. But I don't see any chance for them in the Champions League. In some matches, they are ensuring defeat due to their own mistakes.

That means they are not strong enough yet
This season's Champions League has very tight competition, several teams such as Paris Saint-Germain, Manchester City and Napoli have improved their performance this season, this competitive situation will make it difficult for Real Madrid to survive in the Champions League with what they currently have.
Carlo Ancelotti needs to make improvements to Real Madrid's core squad

In last season, they were also not strong and won the Champions League because it's nature of this event mostly strong sides loses and have not fair chance to win, and we have teams which are not in limelight done good job and take the honour with this all in current season we have few teams which are not in limelight but have chance to do things like we have in past many times.

PSG and Manchester City both are favourite for many seasons and never achieve anything positive, with now we have Napoli. Liverpool and Chelsea which are not good and have chance of elimination early but can do things good and win of the title.

Carlos Ancelotti is surely one of the best person who is currently taking care of this all in Real Madrid and having all his strategy how things will go after their losing against Barcelona and now having better results for the future.

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Quote from: Frankolala on January 21, 2023, 10:22:55 AM

Real Madrid I will say are always lucky when it comes to UCL and I don't know why it is always like that. Their performance presently doesn't guarantee them to be win the league, as there are strong clubs that are eager to win the league,clubs like Bayern,PSG but we can't predict correctly, since football is full of surprises. I don't also want them to win the league,I will prefer another club.

Real Madrid will win Liverpool in the round of 16 and will qualify to the next stage,due to the way Liverpool performance is presently, I don't think they can. Their performance in today's game against Chelsea has shown that if they don't improve in their attack,they might end up losing to Real Madrid both home and away.

I'd rather say they had a tougher mentality in the Champions League than say they were lucky. 14 The trophy they got, was it luck?
They knew what they had to do here, and took advantage of the slightest opportunity to defeat their opponents. In the last season, did they get many chances when they played? Not. They are also not the favorites when dealing with big clubs who look better prepared. But very convincingly, Real Madrid can silence those who underestimate them.
This season they have dropped a lot more, but we'll see what Real Madrid will be able to do with their current drop. I wouldn't be surprised when they suddenly get very strong.

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There is still a lot of work for Paris Saint Germain to be able to compete with other teams in the Champions League. Because other teams are doing the same thing to wade through the Champions League this season. Even some teams look better and more prepared than PSG for now. Honestly, I personally have a little doubt about Paris Saint Germain even though they have a capable squad.

It's very hard to talk about Paris Saint-Germain's title chances right now as we are not even in group stage yet. Everything can be changed but the most important thing is the draw. If they get a lucky draw they can reach finals but if they draw like Real Madrid last season then I don't see much chance for them.
You know Real Madrid passed Paris Saint-Germain, Chelsea, Manchester City and Liverpool and reached the trophy. Paris Saint-Germain couldn't survive in a draw like this. Besides Spanish and English teams dominate the competition, Paris Saint-Germain have light opponents in their local league and they don't get ready for bigger matches. I don't know if it's psychological, motivational problem but if they don't get ready mentally then they have no chance in this tournament.

One thing is for sure - when Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar is on the field all eyes are toward them.
Seems like only they are playing and there is no one else on the ground.
PSG and Al Nassar match was most awaiting match and fans wanted to see all the goats on the feild.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on January 21, 2023, 10:44:12 AM

Everything you said is right now, but it doesn't really mean much, as previous seasons in the Champions League have shown.
PSG and Manchester City have invested the most money in their teams in recent years, but still failed to win the Champions League, even though it has been their primary goal for many years.
On the other hand, the Champions League was won a few seasons ago by Chelsea, who was not a strong candidate for the title for anyone.
The Champions League is the biggest and best football competition in the world, it lasts for a year and is very tiring and uncertain.
The Champions League is not won by the team that has the most expensive players in its team, but by the club whose players are the most physically and mentally ready for the title.
Chelsea or Real last season are the best examples for this claim.
For me, Real is still a very serious candidate for the new title of Champions League winner, regardless of the current slightly weaker games.

And Chelsea winning the Champions League will be one of my biggest shock in football history, if I was told Chelsea would be Champions of Europe I'd never come to full agreement with anyone.
Manchester City who splashed the cash has lost when they came so close to winning the Champions League twice which has made Pep Guardiola frustrated. Lossing to Chelsea during the finals and also to Real Madrid after leading comfortably, they slacked and let Real Madrid take the win.

Real Madrid are very poor in the link up from midfied to defense, if they don't improve they're going no where near the Champions League Finals. Major tips would fall on Paris Saint Germans and Manchester City to win the Champions League.

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Real Madrid is a very strong team. Every player in their team is performing very well. But I don't see any chance for them in the Champions League. In some matches, they are ensuring defeat due to their own mistakes.

I also think that Real Madrid is definitely not among the big favorites to win the Champions league this season. Other teams like Manchester City, Paris saint germain or Bayern Munich just seem to be way stronger. I also think that this not really mean that much though. Just remember what happened in the last season. Back then Real was in a wad worse shape than they are in this year and still they have managed to win the CL back then. There was a lot of luck involved, but still.

Real Madrid are in a difficult situation that I think it won't be possible for them to win the Champions league. I don't think it will also be possible for Manchester City to win because Manchester city performance is not as good like it used to be before. The champions league competition is between Bayern Munich and PSG, this two teams still remain consistent in their performance this season. This might be a chance for PSG since Manchester City and Real Madrid are not in their best form.

Everything you said is right now, but it doesn't really mean much, as previous seasons in the Champions League have shown.
PSG and Manchester City have invested the most money in their teams in recent years, but still failed to win the Champions League, even though it has been their primary goal for many years.
On the other hand, the Champions League was won a few seasons ago by Chelsea, who was not a strong candidate for the title for anyone.
The Champions League is the biggest and best football competition in the world, it lasts for a year and is very tiring and uncertain.
The Champions League is not won by the team that has the most expensive players in its team, but by the club whose players are the most physically and mentally ready for the title.
Chelsea or Real last season are the best examples for this claim.
For me, Real is still a very serious candidate for the new title of Champions League winner, regardless of the current slightly weaker games.

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we all know that Dortmund prioritize selling players over winning titles, although they have come far in the champions league they are undoubtedly more interested in selling their best players so chelsea will be playing Dortmund without their good players, I don't even know to what extent dortmund already sold players this january but i'm guessing they sold their best players

Despite Dortmund selling their best players, their performances are still quite good. However, they are not consistently performing well. But Dortmund's players have the ability to beat a big team like Chelsea. Moreover, Chelsea is perhaps a renowned team. But this season their performance is not stable. The Chelsea team is now in the 10th place in the Premier League points table. And so it would be foolish to think that Chelsea can easily win against Dortmund. It will be challenging for Chelsea to win this match as well.

Very interesting to see Chelsea performance because they were very active in this transfer window and apparently Potter want to rebuild Chelsea and if we see Chelsea current squad they have very complete players on every positions but lets see whether those new players will adapt quickly with Potter strategy or not but their new player Joao Felix has worst debut that on premier league he got red card which caused he will be punished suspension however seems Chelsea has promising squad and lets see in the next few matches whether they can improved their performance using new players or not but if Chelsea perrormance getting better i think beat Dortmund isn't hard for them

Dortmund is not doing well in the Bundesliga, Chelsea are playing unsuccessful matches in the Premier league. I'm quite curious about the pairing between the two. If there is one thing I know, it is that I am eagerly waiting for this match to be played. Chelsea's players are better and they're a few qualities better than Dortmund. Dortmund will try hard and they definitely have a chance. Still, as I said, I see Chelsea as the team that is close to passing the round.

Chelsea is a more experienced team than Dortmund in the Champions League. But the current condition of the Chelsea team is not good. Team players are not playing well. Not even Chelsea in the Premier League. Especially their attacking performance is weak. They scored only 22 goals in 20 matches. And so even though the Chelsea team is experienced, it is not possible to guarantee that they will win against Dortmund. I would say a first leg draw is most likely. The Dortmund team will not accept defeat easily. Dortmund players will play to win.

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Real Madrid I will say are always lucky when it comes to UCL and I don't know why it is always like that. Their performance presently doesn't guarantee them to be win the league, as there are strong clubs that are eager to win the league,clubs like Bayern,PSG but we can't predict correctly, since football is full of surprises. I don't also want them to win the league,I will prefer another club.

Real Madrid will win Liverpool in the round of 16 and will qualify to the next stage,due to the way Liverpool performance is presently, I don't think they can. Their performance in today's game against Chelsea has shown that if they don't improve in their attack,they might end up losing to Real Madrid both home and away.

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Real Madrid is a very strong team. Every player in their team is performing very well. But I don't see any chance for them in the Champions League. In some matches, they are ensuring defeat due to their own mistakes.

I also think that Real Madrid is definitely not among the big favorites to win the Champions league this season. Other teams like Manchester City, Paris saint germain or Bayern Munich just seem to be way stronger. I also think that this not really mean that much though. Just remember what happened in the last season. Back then Real was in a wad worse shape than they are in this year and still they have managed to win the CL back then. There was a lot of luck involved, but still.

Real Madrid are in a difficult situation that I think it won't be possible for them to win the Champions league. I don't think it will also be possible for Manchester City to win because Manchester city performance is not as good like it used to be before. The champions league competition is between Bayern Munich and PSG, this two teams still remain consistent in their performance this season. This might be a chance for PSG since Manchester City and Real Madrid are not in their best form.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on January 21, 2023, 09:33:22 AM

It is impossible to predict which team will win the Champions League title. Manchester City has been favorites for the Champions League title for the last few years, but they have not been champions. Manchester City is favorite this season too. They have a strong squad. Even then I can't say for sure that they will win the title. PSG or Real Madrid are equally likely to win the title. But at the moment, Manchester City's performance is slightly more stable than PSG or Real Madrid.

It is very possible to make predictions, because predictions can be wrong and right. The impossible is when we claim which team will be the champion. All teams still have a chance to become champions, even though they are not favored at all, sometimes if luck always comes their way, then anything can happen on the field. Now it's still in the top 16, I'm still waiting until there are even fewer teams in the Champions League.

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