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Barcelona want to apply the same plan they play in La Liga in the Champions League which has resulted in them being a failed team every season in the Champions League. Barcelona's main focus should be on the Champions League as they have not won the Champions League trophy for several years. The only way to achieve European excellence is to win the Champions League trophy.

Since Xavi has been appointed as the manager of Barcelona, Xavi should adopt the plan that is needed to win the Champions League trophy and if some players need to be changed to do well in the Champions League, Barcelona should change those players.

If Barcelona become insistent on playing the same game in the Champions League it is really difficult to put them among the biggest title contenders next time. Because they still can't even get past the group stage. In the last season they could have done this by at least leaving Inter behind. But it is clear that something needs to change immediately.

Xavi played with this system in his player career for so many years of course. I understand why he insists on this game logic. But it is clear that it doesn't work in the CL while it does in the La Liga. Barcelona have really skilled youngsters and a great striker like Lewandowski.

With some additions to the team in the transfer window and some adjustments in the game strategies they should be more competitive in the CL.

As long as Xavi is the head coach of Barcelona I am sure that Barcelona will not be able to go any farther in the Champions League because after all, even though Barcelona did win the La Liga title but in reality it was just that. Due to the fact, Barcelona also failed in the Copa del Rey and thus, Barcelona does not have a good chance in the Champions League. If for example in the previous season Barcelona could still reach the quarter-finals or semi-finals in the Champions League, then this achievement could be improved this season but the fact is, Barcelona could not achieve that in its last two seasons in the Champions League.

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Quote from: rendravolt on June 15, 2023, 11:25:47 PM

Manchester city will still be dangerous in the champions league next season even though they are still with the same squad and their next target is definitely to win the champions league back to back. There's no doubt about that given that at the moment they can still find a way to score goals and even if Haaland is heavily guarded there will still be other players looking to score.

What might be detrimental for a team like Manchester City is that their game strategy will be readable by their opponents later, Haaland is guarded and then they will find a way to dampen this team, with a squad that also adds new players because City is still quite active in the transfer market, of course will make them even stronger, but winning the champions league next season will be a different competition, and so far only Real Madrid have been able to win this trophy back-to-back, so I'm not sure City will be able to do that.

I think that's the point, Haaland is such a great force of nature that defenders end up marking him very tightly, but that also leaves one side very open, why do you think that Grealish was always marked as well? Because, Haaland usually goes to his left, meaning that Grealish was there, and defense collapsed on that part. Silva found so many positions from the right side and was very open very frequently because of this, and I think it would be smart to not consider that a strategy as well.

Many people ended up thinking that they are going to find a way to actually guard Haaland very well, many teams did that and this caused Haaland to not score on the latest games like he did earlier in the season, but that also allowed City to keep winning because right side was wide open thanks to that.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on June 16, 2023, 05:20:53 AM

Barcelona want to apply the same plan they play in La Liga in the Champions League which has resulted in them being a failed team every season in the Champions League. Barcelona's main focus should be on the Champions League as they have not won the Champions League trophy for several years. The only way to achieve European excellence is to win the Champions League trophy.

Since Xavi has been appointed as the manager of Barcelona, Xavi should adopt the plan that is needed to win the Champions League trophy and if some players need to be changed to do well in the Champions League, Barcelona should change those players.

If Barcelona become insistent on playing the same game in the Champions League it is really difficult to put them among the biggest title contenders next time. Because they still can't even get past the group stage. In the last season they could have done this by at least leaving Inter behind. But it is clear that something needs to change immediately.

Xavi played with this system in his player career for so many years of course. I understand why he insists on this game logic. But it is clear that it doesn't work in the CL while it does in the La Liga. Barcelona have really skilled youngsters and a great striker like Lewandowski.

With some additions to the team in the transfer window and some adjustments in the game strategies they should be more competitive in the CL.

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Quote from: rendravolt on June 15, 2023, 11:25:47 PM

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Just imagine the strong Manchester City we saw this season hie better players and Guardiola makes his team even stronger for the next Champions large, because of the good mental situation and the positive atmosphere they have in their teams that's pretty much easier for them to hire expensive players to work with Guardiola.
I think If Guardiola hires the players he needs for the next season he can be an even stronger opponent for other teams like Real Madrid even if they hire players like Bellingham, still, Guardiola knows his way to win the title with his team.

Manchester city will still be dangerous in the champions league next season even though they are still with the same squad and their next target is definitely to win the champions league back to back. There's no doubt about that given that at the moment they can still find a way to score goals and even if Haaland is heavily guarded there will still be other players looking to score.

But it seems that after Real Madrid was completely slaughtered in the semi-finals of the second leg then finally Florentino Perez started to wake up and started spending a lot of money to buy new players and this was proven by one of the biggest purchases this year, namely Bellingham. This time Real Madrid will be serious and hope to meet Manchester City again to complete the grudge of the previous defeat.

Guardiola has good tactics and strategies to bring his team to win against Madrid, even though we know Madrid bought a lot of great players to prepare for next season, but we will never know if they will meet again in CL next season, because it just so happened that they met in semifinals yesterday for the second time in a row. but manchester city managed to avenge the defeat of the previous season.

I know the current Manchester City squad team is good enough without having to spend in the summer because of course as long as Guardiola remains at Manchester City it seems that Manchester City will remain a scary and terrible club. I can't wait for them to meet again in CL next season. Wink

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on June 16, 2023, 04:52:03 AM

Barcelona have been disappointing in the Champions League for two seasons. The only serious problem Xavi is dealing with is this now actually. Because they didn't have much problem on winning the La Liga title. But they just can't deal with big teams in the Champions League properly. This season they had a really terrible group stage experience. I didn't like Lewandowski's performance in big matches here as well. It was like there was a completely different striker than the one who scores so many goals in the La Liga.

Alba and busquets have been leaving from barcelona but barcelona has not yet gotten a good replacement for busquets. This gonna be a big problem for xavi caused by barcelona faces difficulty to sign the new player from another club.
Barcelona is good in the long term competition like la liga but it's very bad when performed in the UCL. barcelona was going out from the UCL even when it was still on the group stage.
Xavi has so many works to be done in this summer.

Quote from: Pulsar77 on June 16, 2023, 04:52:03 AM

Xavi needs to find a way to consolidate the game plan more for next season. Because the board would ask him to do more than this. Maybe tiki-taka isn't the right choice against such teams here anymore so Xavi had better think about a new formula.

Barcelona has been making a lot of plans but the first plan already failed like trying to buy ruben neves from wolves. It's all caused by ansu fati is choosing to stay even longer in the barcelona rather than try to leave from the club and join in the wolves.
The news about barcelona was interesting to sign gundogan from manchester city was still unclear at this moment. It's caused by gondogan has not yet determined his future.

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Quote from: arimamib on June 15, 2023, 06:22:53 PM

We know that every season there is always quite fierce competition in the race for the UCL trophy. Even though Manchester City has a lot of perfection in their squad, they may not be able to secure the UCL trophy next season because there are many obstacles they have to go through.

Next season is another story that needs to be seen for every team entering the UCL competition because in general each team will also have a different squad so the results are still uncertain and will not be the same as the past season. However, Manchester City will still be a team that other teams are wary of next season.

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Seeing other teams continue to make big changes in the team, of course we think that next season will be even more exciting in the fight for the UCL trophy. Even for real madrid and barcelona they are the strongest team for next season. Also bayern munich and psg have made many big changes for next season.

The excitement might increase because the players from each team are slightly different, but for now the changes that will continue to occur in each team are still not finished. So that the level of excitement is still difficult to predict because the transfer market is still not closed and rumors are still happening every day

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Quote from: Patrol69 on June 16, 2023, 05:20:53 AM

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Barcelona have been disappointing in the Champions League for two seasons. The only serious problem Xavi is dealing with is this now actually. Because they didn't have much problem on winning the La Liga title. But they just can't deal with big teams in the Champions League properly. This season they had a really terrible group stage experience. I didn't like Lewandowski's performance in big matches here as well. It was like there was a completely different striker than the one who scores so many goals in the La Liga.

Xavi needs to find a way to consolidate the game plan more for next season. Because the board would ask him to do more than this. Maybe tiki-taka isn't the right choice against such teams here anymore so Xavi had better think about a new formula.

Barcelona want to apply the same plan they play in La Liga in the Champions League which has resulted in them being a failed team every season in the Champions League. Barcelona's main focus should be on the Champions League as they have not won the Champions League trophy for several years. The only way to achieve European excellence is to win the Champions League trophy.

Since Xavi has been appointed as the manager of Barcelona, Xavi should adopt the plan that is needed to win the Champions League trophy and if some players need to be changed to do well in the Champions League, Barcelona should change those players.

Barcelona is now a much more consolidated team after being managed by Xavi,sure it took a bit of time but I think this year Barcelona will pass the group stages and go far,the players also have harmonized between them in a way to play much better than in the beginning so I think with these players they already have,they make a good strong contending team.Of course any addition especially in the midfield which is the most important part of any team as they win or lose you games is more than welcome and I am sure Xavi is already thinking which player to get to fit his needs.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on June 16, 2023, 04:52:03 AM

Barcelona have been disappointing in the Champions League for two seasons. The only serious problem Xavi is dealing with is this now actually. Because they didn't have much problem on winning the La Liga title. But they just can't deal with big teams in the Champions League properly. This season they had a really terrible group stage experience. I didn't like Lewandowski's performance in big matches here as well. It was like there was a completely different striker than the one who scores so many goals in the La Liga.

Xavi needs to find a way to consolidate the game plan more for next season. Because the board would ask him to do more than this. Maybe tiki-taka isn't the right choice against such teams here anymore so Xavi had better think about a new formula.

Barcelona want to apply the same plan they play in La Liga in the Champions League which has resulted in them being a failed team every season in the Champions League. Barcelona's main focus should be on the Champions League as they have not won the Champions League trophy for several years. The only way to achieve European excellence is to win the Champions League trophy.

Since Xavi has been appointed as the manager of Barcelona, Xavi should adopt the plan that is needed to win the Champions League trophy and if some players need to be changed to do well in the Champions League, Barcelona should change those players.

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Barcelona have been disappointing in the Champions League for two seasons. The only serious problem Xavi is dealing with is this now actually. Because they didn't have much problem on winning the La Liga title. But they just can't deal with big teams in the Champions League properly. This season they had a really terrible group stage experience. I didn't like Lewandowski's performance in big matches here as well. It was like there was a completely different striker than the one who scores so many goals in the La Liga.

Xavi needs to find a way to consolidate the game plan more for next season. Because the board would ask him to do more than this. Maybe tiki-taka isn't the right choice against such teams here anymore so Xavi had better think about a new formula.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 15, 2023, 04:30:08 PM

Just imagine the strong Manchester City we saw this season hie better players and Guardiola makes his team even stronger for the next Champions large, because of the good mental situation and the positive atmosphere they have in their teams that's pretty much easier for them to hire expensive players to work with Guardiola.
I think If Guardiola hires the players he needs for the next season he can be an even stronger opponent for other teams like Real Madrid even if they hire players like Bellingham, still, Guardiola knows his way to win the title with his team.

There is no doubt that Manchester City will perform excellently well next season. Even if Manchester City will not be better than the form they were this season that just ended they will surely not lose their form.
By next season even if they still have the form that they had this last season, they will still do outstandingly well.
I know they will have to reinforce their team, but for Jude Bellingham, he has already chosen Real Madrid. So there are other good players that Manchester City would go for . Even if they did not buy much but provided that they will not sell much they will still do well.

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Quote from: rendravolt on June 15, 2023, 11:25:47 PM

Manchester city will still be dangerous in the champions league next season even though they are still with the same squad and their next target is definitely to win the champions league back to back. There's no doubt about that given that at the moment they can still find a way to score goals and even if Haaland is heavily guarded there will still be other players looking to score.

What might be detrimental for a team like Manchester City is that their game strategy will be readable by their opponents later, Haaland is guarded and then they will find a way to dampen this team, with a squad that also adds new players because City is still quite active in the transfer market, of course will make them even stronger, but winning the champions league next season will be a different competition, and so far only Real Madrid have been able to win this trophy back-to-back, so I'm not sure City will be able to do that.

Quote from: rendravolt on June 15, 2023, 11:25:47 PM

But it seems that after Real Madrid was completely slaughtered in the semi-finals of the second leg then finally Florentino Perez started to wake up and started spending a lot of money to buy new players and this was proven by one of the biggest purchases this year, namely Bellingham. This time Real Madrid will be serious and hope to meet Manchester City again to complete the grudge of the previous defeat.

At least they realized what was the failure last season in Europe and domestically and started to improve themselves unlike what other teams usually do when they fail by changing their manager and making many mistakes in the transfer market, and next season Real Madrid will try to come back more well, so any strong team should be aware of that.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 15, 2023, 04:30:08 PM

Just imagine the strong Manchester City we saw this season hie better players and Guardiola makes his team even stronger for the next Champions large, because of the good mental situation and the positive atmosphere they have in their teams that's pretty much easier for them to hire expensive players to work with Guardiola.
I think If Guardiola hires the players he needs for the next season he can be an even stronger opponent for other teams like Real Madrid even if they hire players like Bellingham, still, Guardiola knows his way to win the title with his team.

Manchester city will still be dangerous in the champions league next season even though they are still with the same squad and their next target is definitely to win the champions league back to back. There's no doubt about that given that at the moment they can still find a way to score goals and even if Haaland is heavily guarded there will still be other players looking to score.

But it seems that after Real Madrid was completely slaughtered in the semi-finals of the second leg then finally Florentino Perez started to wake up and started spending a lot of money to buy new players and this was proven by one of the biggest purchases this year, namely Bellingham. This time Real Madrid will be serious and hope to meet Manchester City again to complete the grudge of the previous defeat.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on June 15, 2023, 04:35:11 PM

I agree with you, Guardiola is a genius coach and that's it.
But after all Pep Guardiola will not be able to guarantee anything next season even though he won the treble winner this season. A lot of people didn't expect him to defend the Champions League title, but they weren't Manchester City fans.

There is a possibility that Pep Guardiola will also be successful with Manchester City next season because he still has many quality players. De Bruyne and several other senior players will not be as strong this season, but they can still contribute well.

Pep Guardiola is smart or genius head coach for Manchester City and supported much money for making his job easy signing many star player, I don't think what happen if Pep Guardiola as mediocre head coach and smart is he bring success teams without support much money. For next season, seems Manchester City are favorite team for winning many trophies and Champion League because Pep Guardiola has many qualities between main and substitute player. Last rumor Pep Guardiola will signing several potential player and seems easy for him defend treble winner for next season.

But Manchester City have extend some player from İlkay Gündoğan and Bernando Silva because they have a lot of contribution for making The Citizen success with treble winner.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on June 15, 2023, 04:35:11 PM

I'm still backing Manchester City to win the Champions League title next season, so I have no doubts with them. But of course, some additions player next season are expected as Mahrez and Gundogan are unlikely to stay around.

They have good strength and enough ambition to protect their titles. They can even buy some players to improve their squad in this summer. Pep Guardiola is known as a coach who has never stopped upgrading himself and his tactics.

However, being strong and ambitious, as well as upgrading your squad, won't be enough to protect your crown in Champions League. It depends on other clubs and your luckiness in a new season. Champions League has many knock-out matches after group stage and with many such tough matches, many things can happen. In history only Real Madrid successfully protect their crown.

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In order to cover for injuries, every team needs to have good first and second-eleven players. Being an intelligent manager, Pep Guardiola does not always start his starting eleven in every game for Manchester City, and this has been producing positive results for him. He alternated the first and second eleven players in minor matches, but he always fields his strongest squads in tough matches.

Manchester City have one of deepest player resource in Europe and it is good for them in a long season with many big competitions like Premier League and Champions League. They have more choices to flip their debut squads and give their important players more resting time than clubs with less deep player resource. It is very helpful for them but it does not mean they will be able to protect their crown only because of a deep player resource.

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So far as Manchester City have Pep Guardiola they still have the chance to win the Champions League next season, Pep Guardiola is the main engine box for the Victory of Manchester City in Champions League this season. Pep Guardiola is a coach that understands how to win trophies and how to use players to get what he wants. I know Manchester City does not have much experience when it comes to Champions League but they have a coach who is capable of making a squad to be tough to win competition.

I agree with you, Guardiola is a genius coach and that's it.
But after all Pep Guardiola will not be able to guarantee anything next season even though he won the treble winner this season. A lot of people didn't expect him to defend the Champions League title, but they weren't Manchester City fans.

There is a possibility that Pep Guardiola will also be successful with Manchester City next season because he still has many quality players. De Bruyne and several other senior players will not be as strong this season, but they can still contribute well.

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Next season Manchester City will still remain one of the best team in the Champions League, but it won't be very easy for them because teams like Bayern Munich and Real Madrid will improve and to do better than what they did in the concluded Champions League. No doubt that Manchester City is a strong team, but it was so possible for them to win the league because of the poor performance of Real Madrid and Bayern Munich.

I'm still backing Manchester City to win the Champions League title next season, so I have no doubts with them. But of course, some additions player next season are expected as Mahrez and Gundogan are unlikely to stay around.

We know that every season there is always quite fierce competition in the race for the UCL trophy. Even though Manchester City has a lot of perfection in their squad, they may not be able to secure the UCL trophy next season because there are many obstacles they have to go through.

Seeing other teams continue to make big changes in the team, of course we think that next season will be even more exciting in the fight for the UCL trophy. Even for real madrid and barcelona they are the strongest team for next season. Also bayern munich and psg have made many big changes for next season.

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I am happy that you know that injury can play a major role on the life of a player and a club in their performance. This is why it might be impossible for Man City to win it again next season even with the same players. We saw how injury crippled Man united performance and some other good clubs performance,which made it impossible for them to achieve their goal. Man City was very lucky,that they didnt suffer from injury this season which made the club and players stronger. So let's stop thinking that next season will be the same as this season. Changes is constant,who on earth will believe that Chelsea will perform poorly this season. It is hard to look into the future but we can also think that it is possible for things to remain the way that they are.

I pay enough attention to the strategy that is usually used by Pep Guardiola in every team he coaches, he always tries hard to encourage every player as much as possible to avoid incidents that could potentially become injured and that has proven effective because in the season that has passed, we have not seen the man city player seriously injured (different from other arsenal squad or EPL team)

In order to cover for injuries, every team needs to have good first and second-eleven players. Being an intelligent manager, Pep Guardiola does not always start his starting eleven in every game for Manchester City, and this has been producing positive results for him. He alternated the first and second eleven players in minor matches, but he always fields his strongest squads in tough matches. This is what put an end to Arsenal's hopes of winning the Premier League. Their starting eleven players meant everything to them. They fall short of winning the league because they don't have a suitable replacement for their starting eleven players when injuries come knocking at their door.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on June 15, 2023, 08:18:30 AM

So far as Manchester City have Pep Guardiola they still have the chance to win the Champions League next season, Pep Guardiola is the main engine box for the Victory of Manchester City in Champions League this season. Pep Guardiola is a coach that understands how to win trophies and how to use players to get what he wants. I know Manchester City does not have much experience when it comes to Champions League but they have a coach who is capable of making a squad to be tough to win competition.

I agree with you, Guardiola is a genius coach and that's it.
But after all Pep Guardiola will not be able to guarantee anything next season even though he won the treble winner this season. A lot of people didn't expect him to defend the Champions League title, but they weren't Manchester City fans.

There is a possibility that Pep Guardiola will also be successful with Manchester City next season because he still has many quality players. De Bruyne and several other senior players will not be as strong this season, but they can still contribute well.

Quote from: Rockstarguy on June 15, 2023, 08:18:30 AM

Next season Manchester City will still remain one of the best team in the Champions League, but it won't be very easy for them because teams like Bayern Munich and Real Madrid will improve and to do better than what they did in the concluded Champions League. No doubt that Manchester City is a strong team, but it was so possible for them to win the league because of the poor performance of Real Madrid and Bayern Munich.

I'm still backing Manchester City to win the Champions League title next season, so I have no doubts with them. But of course, some additions player next season are expected as Mahrez and Gundogan are unlikely to stay around.

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Just imagine the strong Manchester City we saw this season hie better players and Guardiola makes his team even stronger for the next Champions large, because of the good mental situation and the positive atmosphere they have in their teams that's pretty much easier for them to hire expensive players to work with Guardiola.
I think If Guardiola hires the players he needs for the next season he can be an even stronger opponent for other teams like Real Madrid even if they hire players like Bellingham, still, Guardiola knows his way to win the title with his team.

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Quote from: Die_empty on June 15, 2023, 09:20:41 AM

Real Madrid is really preparing for next season. The arrival of Jude Bellingham from Borussia Dortmund for close to 100 million pounds. The 19yrs wrote a heartfelt message to Dortmund and it's fans thanking them for their support and kindness. He said he joined the club as a 17-year-old boy and he is leaving as a man. The England midfielder has learned so much in two years to become one of the best in Europe. In two years he grew very fast to become a mature man. Newcastle is another club to watch out for in the next season's UEFA CL.

Jude Bellingham has talent, and it impresses me how quickly he is developing into a man both on and off the field. Dortmund will undoubtedly miss a player of his skill, but considering the sum Real Madrid paid, I believe it is fair for the team to let him go. I don't think he should be worth that much, but since Madrid needs a young player with such abilities, it's okay to invest in him given he has a very promising future. The price is a little high, in my opinion.
The Champions League will be intriguing in the upcoming season because every team is adding fresh players. Newcastle is a team to keep an eye on because they play well and are highly motivated. If they don't bring in new players, I don't think they will accomplish much. There have been rumors that they are considering signing Barella.

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Instead, I want to see how Pep Guardiola carries his squad in the Champions League. whether he is able to defend the title, with some of his newcomers. yep, if Bernardo Silva and Gundohan leave in the transfer window, it is even more likely that Mahrez will also have the potential to leave. if so, will City be as fierce as they have been this season, I'm really very curious. even so, I'm pretty sure City remain the superior team.
Well, if Manchester United is successfully acquired by Qatar. Most likely, they will be quite strong competitors in this competition. to be honest, I'm pretty sure with Ten Hag's ability to mix his squad into a strong team, they will be much better than what they have shown this season.
On the other hand, I don't expect much from the Gunners in this competition. but at least, with some newcomers they have to prove their toughness and solidity. this team, is my favorite squad than the other teams that I mentioned.

Pep Guardiola and Manchester City had all of the potentials to win the Champions League, but, I'm just a biased Manchester United fan when it comes to this aspect, and due to sentimental reasons, I just don't want to see Manchester City win the Champions League once again next season, it should rather go to the Italians thna return to Manchester City. Lolz.
The Qataris are currently leading the race to buy Manchester United, but it seems like glazers are still sending messages to the other parties to increase them bid if they're to beat them. Erik Ten Hag's a great coach, with the support of the Qataris, he'll get quality players, capable of fighting for Manchester United.
We'll see bout the gunner's, I do not undermine them. But same squad used fir the Premier League can't be used for the Champions League. They're to make sure they get quality players for depth also.

If some very rich man buys Manchester United, I think they are going to find better success. We have just seen Newcastle United being bought by a very rich dude.

We can already see the improvement that they are making. In the end, Money talks. Manchester United wasted a lot of money trying to get some overhyped players. Now the financial situation is certainly not ideal for Manchester United. With a good amount of money, they can overcome the situation which they are in right now. I will say that they are currently improving and not in too much bad a situation, to be honest. But with the help of more money will be able to compete with Manchester City.

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