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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on November 10, 2024, 04:27:46 PM

The matches against Liverpool and Atalanta will certainly be difficult for Real Madrid, but Real Madrid has a good squad to hope to win the match. Real Madrid is currently missing several players due to injury, but considering that the match schedule is still very long, there is time for these players to recover.

Maybe there needs to be some refreshing in the Real Madrid squad, such as maximizing some young players, but I don't see Ancelotti having the inclination to do that. Many of Real Madrid's young players are on the bench, even though they also have good quality. Ancelotti must be able to give them time to play, this will make them better.

That's right, it won't be easy especially now that Madrid are still faced with the loss of players due to injuries which makes the situation even worse for now.
When they need full points to make their position no worse than now they are faced with several internal problems that make Madrid seem like they are having trouble breathing for now because looking at the current situation, their 3 core players in defense are all injured where Alaba is still not recovered, Carvajal is injured until the end of the season and Militao is affected by ACL which will definitely miss another match at Madrid for a long time.

Atalanta is not a big club but their goal productivity is very good because they can always score goals thanks to the neat cooperation that is always shown, Liverpool is also currently in very good condition even though Liverpool has a bad h2h record against Madrid but still they are not an easy opponent. Madrid must fight extra in their unstable condition but are demanded for full points, of course this will make the pressure for Madrid increase slightly but they must pass in order to still be considered a big club in the Champions League.

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Quote from: hahay on November 10, 2024, 03:23:26 PM

I checked the odds for the match between Liverpool v Real Madrid and as it turns out, Liverpool is the overwhelming favorite. But even so, I personally do not consider about Liverpool who will play at home because obviously, at this moment Liverpool is still in a very good trend compared to Real Madrid. But at least, we also cannot at all underestimate Real Madrid, because we also realize that Real Madrid is a team that has a good winning mentality. Although in the previous match Real Madrid lost 1-3 against Milan, but I believe the performance and results that will occur in the match against Liverpool later will be very likely to have very different results. But even so, the results on paper may also still be possible to happen about Liverpool who may then manage to continue their positive trend.

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I don't see any particularly "overwhelming" imbalance in the odds. Liverpool are in great shape and playing at home, while Real Madrid have literally no defense (everyone is injured). And even in these circumstances, Liverpool's chances of winning are almost 50%. For me the game looks random (because Real doesn't have much motivation) but Real can win even in such conditions.

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Quote from: tusandii on November 11, 2024, 12:09:10 AM

I think this match might benefit Real Madrid if they are able to beat Liverpool because Real Madrid currently really needs points in every match to continue to climb to the top rankings, on the other hand if Liverpool experiences their first defeat in this match it will not affect them because Liverpool is still in the top 8 so even though Liverpool has the advantage of playing at home maybe Liverpool will not try to put too much pressure on Real Madrid they can save their energy because the journey in the UCL is still very long.

All I see happening in this game is a fierce attempt by both teams to get a goal or probably win each other in this game, because literally one team is in form more than the other but Madrid is very experienced and thst is an advantage on its own they could leverage on so it's going to be a tough game and whosoever wins was just the lucky one for that day and not because they are better than the other, Liverpool's home advantage is another thing Madrid will actually struggle to deal with because Liverpool wouldn't want to suffer a loss at home and slot has been very precised about his champions League tactics to get the best off every game so a draw wouldn't come as a surprise.

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Liverpool vs Madrid (draw)

It cannot be said that Real Madrid is performing very well at the moment, so Liverpool can win the Champions League match against Real Madrid as Liverpool are currently in the best form. The result of the match will either go in favor of Real Madrid or it will go in favor of Liverpool but I don't think the result of this match will be a draw. When a strong team performs poorly on a regular basis and their position drops to the bottom of the points table due to poor performance, they can do anything to get back into the good position. Looking forward to a great comeback from Real Madrid. Of course, we will expect Real Madrid to make a strong return to the Champions League with the match against Liverpool and we are looking forward to that.

I think this match might benefit Real Madrid if they are able to beat Liverpool because Real Madrid currently really needs points in every match to continue to climb to the top rankings, on the other hand if Liverpool experiences their first defeat in this match it will not affect them because Liverpool is still in the top 8 so even though Liverpool has the advantage of playing at home maybe Liverpool will not try to put too much pressure on Real Madrid they can save their energy because the journey in the UCL is still very long.

In Klopp era Liverpool always failed to win from Real Madrid even the latest is they have to lost at the final match and now after changing the manager hopefully Arne Slot can improving Liverpool meeting records from Real Madrid and indeed if we see from the recent condition certainly Liverpool is much better than Real Madrid this because they can able to reach to first place on premier league and Champion league but don't mean Liverpool can easily to beat Real Madrid because they are big team in this competition

Recently i have checked the odds for this match and Liverpool is the favourite but i still considers this is hard match for Liverpool but all of the players will playing with their national team in International break and if there is no injured players probably Liverpool can beat Real Madrid

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Liverpool vs Madrid (draw)

It cannot be said that Real Madrid is performing very well at the moment, so Liverpool can win the Champions League match against Real Madrid as Liverpool are currently in the best form. The result of the match will either go in favor of Real Madrid or it will go in favor of Liverpool but I don't think the result of this match will be a draw. When a strong team performs poorly on a regular basis and their position drops to the bottom of the points table due to poor performance, they can do anything to get back into the good position. Looking forward to a great comeback from Real Madrid. Of course, we will expect Real Madrid to make a strong return to the Champions League with the match against Liverpool and we are looking forward to that.

I think this match might benefit Real Madrid if they are able to beat Liverpool because Real Madrid currently really needs points in every match to continue to climb to the top rankings, on the other hand if Liverpool experiences their first defeat in this match it will not affect them because Liverpool is still in the top 8 so even though Liverpool has the advantage of playing at home maybe Liverpool will not try to put too much pressure on Real Madrid they can save their energy because the journey in the UCL is still very long.

Currently now, I don't really think Real Madrid can win Liverpool because of their current performance though is not like they have a poor performance but rather it's not good enough to win Liverpool because Liverpool has won 4-5 of their last matches which means they are inform. But judging with their last five matches, I think Real Madrid has win them 4 times and a draw so to me I don't think Real Madrid will or can still bit them I mean it's just like beating someone in a fight for 4 times and thinking you will still beat the person next time forgetting the person is growing, re-strategizing and preparing for the next fight. Is actually going to be a tough match though but Real Madrid Champions league experience is something I can't really explain.

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Liverpool vs Madrid (draw)

It cannot be said that Real Madrid is performing very well at the moment, so Liverpool can win the Champions League match against Real Madrid as Liverpool are currently in the best form. The result of the match will either go in favor of Real Madrid or it will go in favor of Liverpool but I don't think the result of this match will be a draw. When a strong team performs poorly on a regular basis and their position drops to the bottom of the points table due to poor performance, they can do anything to get back into the good position. Looking forward to a great comeback from Real Madrid. Of course, we will expect Real Madrid to make a strong return to the Champions League with the match against Liverpool and we are looking forward to that.

I think this match might benefit Real Madrid if they are able to beat Liverpool because Real Madrid currently really needs points in every match to continue to climb to the top rankings, on the other hand if Liverpool experiences their first defeat in this match it will not affect them because Liverpool is still in the top 8 so even though Liverpool has the advantage of playing at home maybe Liverpool will not try to put too much pressure on Real Madrid they can save their energy because the journey in the UCL is still very long.

What makes you feel that Liverpool will save their energy if they see the opportunity to win Madrid in Anfield. I don't think such will happen, because Liverpool will love to win Real Madrid to get the glory and respect. Arne Slot is not ready to dialogue or pity any club that he clashes with, because he is mean this season and needs trophy.

If Liverpool will be the one to kick Real Madrid ass out of UCL this season, if they win them during their clash, Liverpool would be happy and willing to do that to get rid of them, and create a better opportunity for themselves in the long run. However, Real Madrid will not joke with this match, because it might be the match to determine their fate in the league. It will be a disgrace that Madrid didn't qualify from the group stage and there will be no hope for them seeing themselves as champions this season.

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Liverpool vs Madrid (draw)

It cannot be said that Real Madrid is performing very well at the moment, so Liverpool can win the Champions League match against Real Madrid as Liverpool are currently in the best form. The result of the match will either go in favor of Real Madrid or it will go in favor of Liverpool but I don't think the result of this match will be a draw. When a strong team performs poorly on a regular basis and their position drops to the bottom of the points table due to poor performance, they can do anything to get back into the good position. Looking forward to a great comeback from Real Madrid. Of course, we will expect Real Madrid to make a strong return to the Champions League with the match against Liverpool and we are looking forward to that.

I think this match might benefit Real Madrid if they are able to beat Liverpool because Real Madrid currently really needs points in every match to continue to climb to the top rankings, on the other hand if Liverpool experiences their first defeat in this match it will not affect them because Liverpool is still in the top 8 so even though Liverpool has the advantage of playing at home maybe Liverpool will not try to put too much pressure on Real Madrid they can save their energy because the journey in the UCL is still very long.

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Now Madrid only have to focus on the remaining matches because looking at the current schedule 2 of the 4 matches that will be carried out in weeks 5 and 6 will clearly be troublesome for them considering the opponents they have to face are Liverpool and Atalanta so even though Play off is an option for now but still they have to get points especially after 2 defeats which are quite painful making them currently in a less favorable position in the standings.

Madrid still have a lot to make some schemes and of course the momentum must be built from scratch after several painful defeats at the Bernabeu.
Do not let the minus results always get them because after all even though the play offs now they can still get but of course they also still need points to tell that they are also still one of the clubs that are indeed favorites in the championship.

The matches against Liverpool and Atalanta will certainly be difficult for Real Madrid, but Real Madrid has a good squad to hope to win the match. Real Madrid is currently missing several players due to injury, but considering that the match schedule is still very long, there is time for these players to recover.

Maybe there needs to be some refreshing in the Real Madrid squad, such as maximizing some young players, but I don't see Ancelotti having the inclination to do that. Many of Real Madrid's young players are on the bench, even though they also have good quality. Ancelotti must be able to give them time to play, this will make them better.

Regarding the 2 matches, I don't want to expect more and just want to see a draw against Liverpool and a win against Atalanta. And I believe that will happen because I really believe Ancelotti will not disappoint his fans.

And for the young players you mentioned, actually last season Ancelotti used a strategy where young players would appear more in the domestic league and the main players would rest completely to focus on the UCL. But this season is very different because Ancelotti has a different strategy unlike last season and he is aware that using young players in the UCL is not a good choice because his emotions are not yet stable.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on November 10, 2024, 04:27:46 PM

The matches against Liverpool and Atalanta will certainly be difficult for Real Madrid, but Real Madrid has a good squad to hope to win the match. Real Madrid is currently missing several players due to injury, but considering that the match schedule is still very long, there is time for these players to recover.

There is no denying that Real Madrid still have a good squad, but the problem lies in the squad depth due to several key players being injured. Real Madrid will have a hard time bringing home a win at Anfield as Liverpool are still in top form in two different competitions, they are also the only team to have managed to get full points in the UCL.
Atalanta can also make things difficult for Real Madrid, especially since they have never lost in their last 6 matches when playing at their home base. Real also lost three players during their win over Osasuna, making it even more difficult for Ancelotti to formulate a strategy.

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Now Madrid only have to focus on the remaining matches because looking at the current schedule 2 of the 4 matches that will be carried out in weeks 5 and 6 will clearly be troublesome for them considering the opponents they have to face are Liverpool and Atalanta so even though Play off is an option for now but still they have to get points especially after 2 defeats which are quite painful making them currently in a less favorable position in the standings.

Madrid still have a lot to make some schemes and of course the momentum must be built from scratch after several painful defeats at the Bernabeu.
Do not let the minus results always get them because after all even though the play offs now they can still get but of course they also still need points to tell that they are also still one of the clubs that are indeed favorites in the championship.

It is true that now there is no other way for Real Madrid other than they have to focus on the match they are going to play and of course Real Madrid as last season's champions of course must show their prowess if they are a team that will be ready to compete again with other strong teams in the UCL and Indeed, it would be better if Real Madrid won all the matches which would ultimately make Real Madrid's name even better.

Real Madrid's next opponent will certainly not be easy to beat because of course Liverpool is currently performing very well and of course Real Madrid needs strength and good strategy to be able to fight Liverpool, but of course if you look at Real Madrid's last match in Laliga against Osasuna. I see that Real Madrid's performance is getting better so I'm sure it will be an exciting match. and against Atalanta I am also sure that Real Madrid will be able to overcome it.

Yes, with the defeat experienced by Real Madrid, of course this is very painful, but I hope Ancelotti can make Real Madrid better so that it can heal the feelings of Real Madrid fans who are sad because in the UCL this season Real Madrid's performance did not match Real Madrid fans' expectations.

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PSG and Bayern Munich are both leading their domestic leagues. PSG is at the top of Ligue 1, where they are yet to be beaten, and Bayern Munich is leading in Bundesliga. But what is noticeable is that none of them has used their domestic success in demonstrating dominance in Champions League in this season. But then, it is considered to be a tougher competition. Because the level of pressure and the quality of opponents is higher. Therefore, superior performance in the domestic league does not always guarantee success in European competition.

Neither of both teams have been able to demonstrate their domestic dominance in the champions League because practically they are tow different leagues with varrying form of competitiveness at this point, if I am to even examine them and their strength I wouldn't be making much reference to their domestic performance knowing how well that is very different from the champion's league and even within them the level of prioritization they attach to each of these leagues at the levels they are at. So you are very correct to say that superiority in the domestic league doesn't equate same performance in the champions League.

It is clear that both teams failed to implement strategies and adapt when facing the Champions League. The pressure given in the Champions League is very different from the domestic league, so the results obtained by both teams in the domestic league are not directly proportional when playing in the Champions League.

Quote from: legendbtc on November 10, 2024, 06:26:18 PM

PSG and Bayern Munich are both leading their domestic leagues. Simply because in terms of talent and player resources, they are always far superior to the domestic league teams.
As for the Champions League, the quality of the teams here is even much higher than theirs. I'm not just talking about the financial aspect but also the smart management of the team's leadership. For example, PSG has the finances but they cannot recruit a truly qualified coach. If compared to Real Madrid, the team always has a talented coach. If PSG had recruited coach Zidane, the story in the Champions League would have been different.

In short, PSG and Bayern Munich still lack the necessary elements to become stronger in this arena.

You are right, the strategy owned by the coach may be the main cause so that both teams, PSG and Bayern Munich, were unable to perform well in the Champions League. But if you take Real Madrid as an example, because this season it seems that Real Madrid is quite struggling in the Champions League, even though Madrid has an experienced coach, namely Ancelloti, but this season Real Madrid has performed less than satisfactory, in the domestic league even though it is in second place in the standings, but Real Madrid's points obtained are far behind Barcelona, as well as the position in the UCL which is not far from Bayern Munich. FC Barcelona is the best example that we can see this season, because besides their success in the domestic league, Barcelona also performed quite well in the UCL, under the guidance of Hansi Flick, Barcelona was able to adapt and perform well in the domestic league and the Champions League.

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PSG and Bayern Munich are both leading their domestic leagues. PSG is at the top of Ligue 1, where they are yet to be beaten, and Bayern Munich is leading in Bundesliga. But what is noticeable is that none of them has used their domestic success in demonstrating dominance in Champions League in this season. But then, it is considered to be a tougher competition. Because the level of pressure and the quality of opponents is higher. Therefore, superior performance in the domestic league does not always guarantee success in European competition.

Neither of both teams have been able to demonstrate their domestic dominance in the champions League because practically they are tow different leagues with varrying form of competitiveness at this point, if I am to even examine them and their strength I wouldn't be making much reference to their domestic performance knowing how well that is very different from the champion's league and even within them the level of prioritization they attach to each of these leagues at the levels they are at. So you are very correct to say that superiority in the domestic league doesn't equate same performance in the champions League.

PSG and Bayern Munich are both leading their domestic leagues. Simply because in terms of talent and player resources, they are always far superior to the domestic league teams.
As for the Champions League, the quality of the teams here is even much higher than theirs. I'm not just talking about the financial aspect but also the smart management of the team's leadership. For example, PSG has the finances but they cannot recruit a truly qualified coach. If compared to Real Madrid, the team always has a talented coach. If PSG had recruited coach Zidane, the story in the Champions League would have been different.

In short, PSG and Bayern Munich still lack the necessary elements to become stronger in this arena.

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Quote from: Akbarkoe on November 10, 2024, 04:32:01 PM

PSG and Bayern Munich are both leading their domestic leagues. PSG is at the top of Ligue 1, where they are yet to be beaten, and Bayern Munich is leading in Bundesliga. But what is noticeable is that none of them has used their domestic success in demonstrating dominance in Champions League in this season. But then, it is considered to be a tougher competition. Because the level of pressure and the quality of opponents is higher. Therefore, superior performance in the domestic league does not always guarantee success in European competition.

Neither of both teams have been able to demonstrate their domestic dominance in the champions League because practically they are tow different leagues with varrying form of competitiveness at this point, if I am to even examine them and their strength I wouldn't be making much reference to their domestic performance knowing how well that is very different from the champion's league and even within them the level of prioritization they attach to each of these leagues at the levels they are at. So you are very correct to say that superiority in the domestic league doesn't equate same performance in the champions League.

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Quote from: irhact on November 10, 2024, 08:05:50 AM

It would be very surprising that Real Madrid doesn't qualify to the next stage of the competition therefore I can't write them off that they're not going to qualify. Liverpool has been impressive this season both in the premier and champions league. They're looking as a team that has the potential to win one of the league or they can win both too as they haven't shown any weakness and are just winning in the simplest way possible. They're not scoring too much but making sure they get the job down to get all three points. Liverpool next game is going to be against Real Madrid and both teams are tough teams in the champions league, if Liverpool doesn't win, they draw.

If they don't qualify then it's actually a good one because throughout out this season they have been very unfortunate in their performance, in every league everyone will get what they deserve and if Madrid did not do the needful then their is no way that they will qualify, Liverpool have been doing a very good job in the premier league and champions league to so the season moght be theirs because arsenal is looking more unstable this season compare to other season and this is not only arsenal and even Madrid a lot of clubs are very unstable this season a lot is happening but a winner must emerge.

This would have been Arsenal this season but they are busy still looking for ways to solve their own problems and when Arsenal is suppose to shine and showcase their success that is when they are now having serious game challenges and that is one annoying thing about arsenal this season their performance is seriously dropping and arteta is beginning to annoy me he needs to reconsider a lot of things you can not always be the best, every needs to learn from others.

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Now Madrid only have to focus on the remaining matches because looking at the current schedule 2 of the 4 matches that will be carried out in weeks 5 and 6 will clearly be troublesome for them considering the opponents they have to face are Liverpool and Atalanta so even though Play off is an option for now but still they have to get points especially after 2 defeats which are quite painful making them currently in a less favorable position in the standings.

Madrid still have a lot to make some schemes and of course the momentum must be built from scratch after several painful defeats at the Bernabeu.
Do not let the minus results always get them because after all even though the play offs now they can still get but of course they also still need points to tell that they are also still one of the clubs that are indeed favorites in the championship.

Real Madrid's struggle this season is more difficult than before and this is of course because of the increasing number of injured players. In the last match, at least 3 players were reported to have suffered injuries including Rodrygo, Vasquez and Militao. This is clearly very troublesome for Ancelotti, it is even reported that Militao will miss this season due to his serious injury status.

Real Madrid may need to get some additional players in January considering they still have to fight hard in La Liga and the Champions League. Losing 2 times in 4 matches is certainly very unexpected, but that is part of the risk of the match for all teams. Ancelotti needs to develop the best plan for each match following the many injuries that have hit Real Madrid.

True, in the last match Militao was injured and it was rumored to be an ACL which made of course Ancelotti will be even more inconvenient because for now at least 3 players are suffering from ACL after Alaba, Carvajal and now Militao which tactically makes this a precarious situation where these 3 players are the pillars of the defense. It's just that on the other hand at this time they also can't do much because the decision not to bring players (especially defenders) they have done and although this is risky but Ancelotti is still confident in what he has before so now it can't make them an excuse that they can't survive this situation.

There are a few youngsters that Madrid have brought in now from Castila and that's all they can do as it's unlikely they'll be able to bring back any players for at least the next few months before the transfer window opens.

But to wait until January is clearly a risky choice so for now Madrid just have to maximize the strength available for them to survive this unfavorable condition especially for the Champions League because there are still 2 tough matches that they still have to face.

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Quote from: Raflesia on November 10, 2024, 04:03:13 PM

It is undeniable that Bayern's statistics are still quite superior and it can be seen from their current position even though Bayern are still quite bad but we can see that PSG is still scattered in the lower standings at this time. But on the other hand for now in terms of strength, these two clubs are actually quite comparable and this can be used by PSG to reduce the probability because it is clear they lose in terms of favorites for now.

Bayern are still constrained by performance as well as PSG even though these two clubs can both dominate in domestic competitions but still for competitions in the Champions League are different things so they have to try more if they really want something good.
Talking about the mentality of these two clubs is actually also balanced because in the last few seasons at least they can always qualify for the last 16 phase even though they are always hampered in the quarter-finals so for now it is just a matter of seeing the quality of the players and the attack scheme carried out whether it will be an advantage for Bayern or PSG because their target is definitely 3 points.

PSG and Bayern Munich are both leading their domestic leagues. PSG is at the top of Ligue 1, where they are yet to be beaten, and Bayern Munich is leading in Bundesliga. But what is noticeable is that none of them has used their domestic success in demonstrating dominance in Champions League in this season. But then, it is considered to be a tougher competition. Because the level of pressure and the quality of opponents is higher. Therefore, superior performance in the domestic league does not always guarantee success in European competition.

And unfortunately they have to meet early. Since Bayern is at 17 in the Champions League standings and PSG sits at 25, for the winner to be, it's even very likely that loser will now be in a tougher spot, even possibly coming last. Both have some very talented players, but both need to start being more consistent in implementing their strategies to be able to compete more seriously in this tournament.

This season is full of surprises, because we see how the regular UCL teams really have difficulty getting tickets to the last 16.

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Now Madrid only have to focus on the remaining matches because looking at the current schedule 2 of the 4 matches that will be carried out in weeks 5 and 6 will clearly be troublesome for them considering the opponents they have to face are Liverpool and Atalanta so even though Play off is an option for now but still they have to get points especially after 2 defeats which are quite painful making them currently in a less favorable position in the standings.

Madrid still have a lot to make some schemes and of course the momentum must be built from scratch after several painful defeats at the Bernabeu.
Do not let the minus results always get them because after all even though the play offs now they can still get but of course they also still need points to tell that they are also still one of the clubs that are indeed favorites in the championship.

The matches against Liverpool and Atalanta will certainly be difficult for Real Madrid, but Real Madrid has a good squad to hope to win the match. Real Madrid is currently missing several players due to injury, but considering that the match schedule is still very long, there is time for these players to recover.

Maybe there needs to be some refreshing in the Real Madrid squad, such as maximizing some young players, but I don't see Ancelotti having the inclination to do that. Many of Real Madrid's young players are on the bench, even though they also have good quality. Ancelotti must be able to give them time to play, this will make them better.

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I fully agree with you. With that shape they would never be able to win the Premier League if they were part of it. The Bundesliga is doable for them because all of the other teams are having issues and Leverkusen just tied a game against the weakest Bundesliga team Bochum. That's why at the moment the Bundesliga is no benchmark at all. They have 33:7 goals, which is of course not bad at all, but it doesn't help anything in any other competition. You can see in almost every single game that they can't turn their dominance into anything of value. The most obvious evidence was the game against Barcelona. You could literally take that game for educational purposes... Bayern Munich has the ball most of the time and Barcelona teaches them how to use ball possession.

Barcelona and Bayern Munich aren't on same level this season, Barcelona is almost more likely to be seen as far ahead in their form and performance their season than they have been before meanwhile for Bayern Munich they have a coach who is still trying to gather some experience around the champions League so their game play and productivity is definitely not going to be on same level and Bayern is doing better in their domestic league but the champions League is such they wouldn't be keeping some sorts of expectations on their season.

Yes I would love to see a second game Bayern Munich against Barcelona. I am curious to see whether Bayern Munich has what it takes to adjust to the problems that they had last time. But I agree with you that as of now it looks as if Barcelona is far ahead. But make no mistake, because Barcelona is currently playing against Sociedad and they are 1-0 behind and are not playing very well. 0 shots on target after 60 minutes into the game in La Liga. The big teams have their problems too.

But Flick left some important players at home as it seems. I am not sure if he is trying to handle injuries or if he decided to give some players are break.

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If Madrid does end up in the play-off, I don't think it will be a big deal, but it certainly won't happen.
Although Madrid current performance is inconsistent, I have this assumption,

Liverpool vs Madrid (draw)
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If all the matches are in accordance with this prediction, I am sure Madrid will be in the best position to advance to the next round.

Real Madrid met Liverpool it has a good victory but for this time do not know because of inconsistent performance and Liverpool is in glory with Arne Slot so it will be difficult to win as away.

Yes, maybe a draw is still very possible or it could be that Liverpool won this cannot be denied because Liverpool are on fire.

Source: https://onefootball.com/fr/news/real-madrid-dealt-triple-injury-blow-ahead-of-liverpool-clash-could-hugely-impact-trent-pursuit-40287900

Los Blancos are suffering a really hard time after the match against Osasuna. Winning against Liverpool is going to be really hard for Real Madrid. Especially because Liverpool is playing really well right now and Real Madrid is facing a lot of problems with injuries. getting a draw against Liverpool seems like a pretty realistic expectation for Real Madrid.

But at the same time, we also have to remember that Real Madrid is the best Champions League team that there is. They have been able to overcome insane odds before. And I don't think we should say that Ancelotti's side is not going to be able to do that this time. I am expecting a good matchup in this one between Los Blancos and The Reds.

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Quote from: Palakka on November 09, 2024, 10:34:30 AM

Quote from: Raflesia on November 09, 2024, 09:29:39 AM

But indeed the advantage that Bayern currently has is that they are slightly better than statistics than PSG, although in the end it is also a fairly difficult match because after all both clubs are still one of the clubs that count for their domestic competitions.

Bayern if they really want to stay in a place that is quite comfortable then clearly full points must be one of the targets for Bayern at this time but it is also not easy because PSG also definitely wants points because after all their position is much more difficult than Bayern at this time.
The advantage for Bayern in this match is that they play at home so this will be something that can be beneficial for them because playing at home is clearly a good advantage if it can be maximized properly by Kompany's squad, it just depends on performance and finishing because they are still quite weak in this regard.

statistically munich is clearly superior from PSG, although it is true that PSG so far has dominance and is a strong team in the domestic league but it cannot be denied that their mentality in the UCL has been very small, the poor mentality and also the inconsistency they have at this time makes them have to slump and even after being abandoned by many star players PSG is no longer a favourite in the UCL in my opinion, but regardless of what is happening for PSG at this time, of course that the match will be very difficult for both teams, because after all they have very big ambitions to improve their current position in UCL, munich has a better position than PSG but from the 4 matches they have played in UCL so far, munich lost points from 2 teams that are at the same level and even stronger than them, so indeed PSG have a chance to also win the match later although small in my opinion.

It is undeniable that Bayern's statistics are still quite superior and it can be seen from their current position even though Bayern are still quite bad but we can see that PSG is still scattered in the lower standings at this time. But on the other hand for now in terms of strength, these two clubs are actually quite comparable and this can be used by PSG to reduce the probability because it is clear they lose in terms of favorites for now.

Bayern are still constrained by performance as well as PSG even though these two clubs can both dominate in domestic competitions but still for competitions in the Champions League are different things so they have to try more if they really want something good.
Talking about the mentality of these two clubs is actually also balanced because in the last few seasons at least they can always qualify for the last 16 phase even though they are always hampered in the quarter-finals so for now it is just a matter of seeing the quality of the players and the attack scheme carried out whether it will be an advantage for Bayern or PSG because their target is definitely 3 points.

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