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When we are talking about Barcelona's chances to win the title, their chance are low. I said that based on the latest UCL odds. Liverpool still leads to be the most favorite club to win the title, and Barcelona is still at the 6th place.

Barcelona is very productive in the UCL, eventhough they are not in the top 5 for outright odds. This shows Barcelona shall have tried harder to win the title. But, the odds can change based on the UCL results each week.

There are still 4 matches left to be played and I am optimistic that Barcelona has a chance to be in the top 5 in the next 2 matches. As long as Hansi Flick continues to maintain the consistency of his players, there is no reason for Barcelona to decline. Barcelona 5th match will host Brest and in terms of quality if they are able to beat them, it will provide an additional higher chance. Brest has not experienced a defeat but if you look at the opponents who have been defeated, their strength level is below standard then I am sure that Blaugrana is still favored.

Barcelona has currently shown a very impressive performance so I am confused why there are still those who doubt them and the matter of Barcelona not being the main favorite in the title race this season because at the beginning of the season they were doubted but now everything is different, Hansi Flick really managed to make a significant difference in the Barcelona team this season.
And to say anything to win the title this season is still too early but I think if we look at what Barcelona has shown this season then they deserve and there is a possibility for that, they just need to maintain their consistency there until the end of the season.

Hmmm, that's points to discuss!
I don't know that why they are still doubtful about Barca. But I think they didn't understand what Barcelona did. To be honest, Barcelona are just starving for a victories. Hansi flick made some beautiful changes in the tactical instructions like he changed Barcelona from possession to forward run offense. And ultimately, Barcelona are just dominated the matches with some good number of goals. If we look at the goal scoring mode they scored 54 goals are in just 16 games in whole competition. Hansi flick turned Barcelona into goal scoring machine. So now I'm pretty sure that Barcelona can do everything, like they can win leagues, Champion league etc.

So don't be skeptical just believe in the German.So indeed he will bring up the UEFA champions league title into the Camp nou...

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After suffering 2 consecutive defeats against Aston Villa and Barcelona, Bayern Munich immediately bounced back in Match 4 by beating Benfica. In my opinion, Bayern Munich will have no trouble hosting PSG at the Allianz Arena as the away team has not won in their last three matches. After the defeat against Atlético Madrid in their last game, PSG are in 25th place in the UCL standings. Munich will be the favorite team in this match because PSG is inconsistent in maintaining its performance this season.

But indeed the advantage that Bayern currently has is that they are slightly better than statistics than PSG, although in the end it is also a fairly difficult match because after all both clubs are still one of the clubs that count for their domestic competitions.

Bayern if they really want to stay in a place that is quite comfortable then clearly full points must be one of the targets for Bayern at this time but it is also not easy because PSG also definitely wants points because after all their position is much more difficult than Bayern at this time.
The advantage for Bayern in this match is that they play at home so this will be something that can be beneficial for them because playing at home is clearly a good advantage if it can be maximized properly by Kompany's squad, it just depends on performance and finishing because they are still quite weak in this regard.

statistically munich is clearly superior from PSG, although it is true that PSG so far has dominance and is a strong team in the domestic league but it cannot be denied that their mentality in the UCL has been very small, the poor mentality and also the inconsistency they have at this time makes them have to slump and even after being abandoned by many star players PSG is no longer a favourite in the UCL in my opinion, but regardless of what is happening for PSG at this time, of course that the match will be very difficult for both teams, because after all they have very big ambitions to improve their current position in UCL, munich has a better position than PSG but from the 4 matches they have played in UCL so far, munich lost points from 2 teams that are at the same level and even stronger than them, so indeed PSG have a chance to also win the match later although small in my opinion.

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Quote from: Frankolala on November 09, 2024, 07:37:35 AM

It's not that anyone is doubting Barcelona, but it's still early to conclude because the league is still in the group stage. There are some big clubs that it's in the knock out stage, they will buggle up and improve their performance because there will be a home advantage by then. Barcelona performance is extremely good and no doubt if they keep up with it till the end, they might the league, but currently their chance of winning it is 50-50.

One thing common amongst fans especially those who are fans of a team who started off a season so well is the height of their expectations, sometimes literally they begin to wish the trophy is handed to the team already meanwhile the season is yet to go half way, sometimes and attempt to not support their perspectives will look like you aren't wishing them well but in the long run we get to see the Tru strength of the team so Barcelona need more time to be sure they are the best candidate for the la Liga title this season.

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They have lost twice in the 4 matches they have played and in week 5 they will face PSG which will certainly not be easy for them to conquer if the target is 3 points. This still seems a little unfavorable for Bayern even though PSG is currently looking alarming in the Champions League but they are not an easy opponent.

After suffering 2 consecutive defeats against Aston Villa and Barcelona, Bayern Munich immediately bounced back in Match 4 by beating Benfica. In my opinion, Bayern Munich will have no trouble hosting PSG at the Allianz Arena as the away team has not won in their last three matches. After the defeat against Atlético Madrid in their last game, PSG are in 25th place in the UCL standings. Munich will be the favorite team in this match because PSG is inconsistent in maintaining its performance this season.

But indeed the advantage that Bayern currently has is that they are slightly better than statistics than PSG, although in the end it is also a fairly difficult match because after all both clubs are still one of the clubs that count for their domestic competitions.

Bayern if they really want to stay in a place that is quite comfortable then clearly full points must be one of the targets for Bayern at this time but it is also not easy because PSG also definitely wants points because after all their position is much more difficult than Bayern at this time.
The advantage for Bayern in this match is that they play at home so this will be something that can be beneficial for them because playing at home is clearly a good advantage if it can be maximized properly by Kompany's squad, it just depends on performance and finishing because they are still quite weak in this regard.

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Quote from: len01 on November 09, 2024, 01:11:17 AM

If Madrid does end up in the play-off, I don't think it will be a big deal, but it certainly won't happen.
Although Madrid current performance is inconsistent, I have this assumption,

Liverpool vs Madrid (draw)
Atalanta vs Madrid (Madrid win)
Madrid vs Salzburg (Madrid win)
Brest vs Madrid (Madrid win)

If all the matches are in accordance with this prediction, I am sure Madrid will be in the best position to advance to the next round.

Looking at Real Madrid right now I doubt them, especially against a club that can be said to be quite good right now they will face Liverpool we see how Liverpool is right now with good strength and also consistent in achieving victory it will be difficult for Real Madrid especially away games Real Madrid is not like before we have to understand after Kroos retired they really lost an important figure on the field and in my opinion this Champions League is a difficult job for them Real Madrid of course Vinicius.

It's not just Liverpool who are having difficulties in my opinion Atalanta will also give a surprise to the Spanish team, I'm sure Gesperini will show his class when playing with Real Madrid and Brest is also a club that is difficult to beat in the Champions League right now I'm not sure they will succeed in these 3 matches with a win.

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Barcelona has currently shown a very impressive performance so I am confused why there are still those who doubt them and the matter of Barcelona not being the main favorite in the title race this season because at the beginning of the season they were doubted but now everything is different, Hansi Flick really managed to make a significant difference in the Barcelona team this season.
And to say anything to win the title this season is still too early but I think if we look at what Barcelona has shown this season then they deserve and there is a possibility for that, they just need to maintain their consistency there until the end of the season.

With the results that have been shown by Barcelona at the beginning of this season, of course everyone can conclude that Barcelona has received a better tactical injection from their new coach this season, but if you still see someone who doubts Barcelona this season even though they have seen good results from the Barcelona team, it might be because that person doesn't like the Barcelona team so whatever Barcelona has achieved at the beginning of this season is still very lacking according to them.

It's not that anyone is doubting Barcelona, but it's still early to conclude because the league is still in the group stage. There are some big clubs that it's in the knock out stage, they will buggle up and improve their performance because there will be a home advantage by then. Barcelona performance is extremely good and no doubt if they keep up with it till the end, they might the league, but currently their chance of winning it is 50-50.

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Quote from: aylabadia05 on November 08, 2024, 03:34:56 PM

To be honest, I don't agree with your opinion about Bayern Munich's main target this season. Bayern Munich is a team that is always the favorite in the Champions League regardless of who the coach is, so it would not be right if they would only focus on the Bundesliga first before placing their focus on the Champions League. All the top teams target the Champions League title as their main target in Europe, so I think the same thing applies to Bayern Munich, who is being coached by Kompany this season.

I might agree with your opinion if Kompany coached a team like Leipzig or another mid-table team. Even with Dortmund or Leverkusen, Kompany will make the Champions League title the biggest target in his plans this season.

A big team like Bayern Munich must target trophies in any competition they participate in, but with the quality like now, it seems impossible for them to be able to achieve that target. Realistically speaking and maybe when you see them in the Champions League this season, it doesn't show a favorite team at all because there are so many things that make them look so weak and even a very painful defeat.

In the past, Barcelona had so much difficulty when they had to face Bayern Munich, but now we can see how they destroy Bayern Munich mercilessly. A more realistic target is winning the Bundesliga trophy than the Champions League this season.

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Barcelona has currently shown a very impressive performance so I am confused why there are still those who doubt them and the matter of Barcelona not being the main favorite in the title race this season because at the beginning of the season they were doubted but now everything is different, Hansi Flick really managed to make a significant difference in the Barcelona team this season.
And to say anything to win the title this season is still too early but I think if we look at what Barcelona has shown this season then they deserve and there is a possibility for that, they just need to maintain their consistency there until the end of the season.

With the results that have been shown by Barcelona at the beginning of this season, of course everyone can conclude that Barcelona has received a better tactical injection from their new coach this season, but if you still see someone who doubts Barcelona this season even though they have seen good results from the Barcelona team, it might be because that person doesn't like the Barcelona team so whatever Barcelona has achieved at the beginning of this season is still very lacking according to them.

The changes in tactics and strategies that Flick has implemented have made Barcelona more solid on all fronts, we can see how they have been impressive since the beginning of the season, not only in the league but they look very stable in the Champions League, so far Barcelona has shown an incredible balance not only strong in attack, but also more disciplined in defending, the ability shown by Barcelona cannot be separated from the ingenuity of Hansi Flick in building and modifying the squad left by Xavi last season, besides that their ability to score goals from various situations, both from open games and set-pieces is one of the most visible of the season, we of course cannot force other people choices and when anyone doubts Barcelona this season then maybe he is a Madrid fan in my opinion Grin

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Yesterday match of Bayern vs Benfica team, Bayern team won the match by scoring 1 goal. Benfica team could not score any goal in this match. Benfica team players tried hard to score but could not score any goal. However, Benfica team could have drawn this match. The performance of the Bayern team players was really good for which Benfica team could not score any goals in this match.

Bayern Munich team defenders played critical role in this match because they have good physique and played well in this match.Benfica football team could not do any goal in this match and both teams have ranking close to each other. Both teams played 4 matches and both teams have 6 points on points table which states that both are teams with same level. Musiala did goal when team needed and after no player became successful to do any goal. The stat of Bayern Munich team was wonderful and they striked 24 shots in this match and from which 10 were on target and pass accuracy was also brilliant by that team in this match.

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Quote from: armanda90 on November 09, 2024, 12:08:40 AM

I doubt Real Madrid will get qualify to knock out round or not with UEFA Champion League new format after defeating 2 of 4 matches and collected 6 points awhile. Last match make many fans shocked after Madrid defeating by not favorable team AC Milan have downtrend performance in domestic league bust success defeating Madrid on their home match. However Madrid have 9 points remaining reach to direct qualify to knock out round from Aston Villa but many teams have few points left to reach higher standings position will make difficult for Madrid get the higher standings position.

Upcoming match, Madrid have to face difficult opponent team Liverpool who leading the first standings awhile and must win if won't loss opportunity to defend the Champion League tittle.

Four matches left for Real Madrid in phase league matches

Liverpool A
Atalanta A
Salzburg H
Brest A

With the poor performance they have shown so far, I'm also doubting the qualification for the first time. Seeing that they will play Liverpool and Atatanta make me realize just how tough the road to qualification is for them because I know that both teams will not be easy for them to win. Liverpool will likely win them and with the way Lukeman Ademola take big teams personal, I will not be surprise if he gives Real Madrid a shock of their life. No doubt Real Madrid is well experienced when it comes to the champions league but I don't know if their experience will count this time because they are in a very tight corner that require them being in their best form to escape.

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Quote from: len01 on November 09, 2024, 01:11:17 AM

If Madrid does end up in the play-off, I don't think it will be a big deal, but it certainly won't happen.
Although Madrid current performance is inconsistent, I have this assumption,

Liverpool vs Madrid (draw)
Atalanta vs Madrid (Madrid win)
Madrid vs Salzburg (Madrid win)
Brest vs Madrid (Madrid win)

If all the matches are in accordance with this prediction, I am sure Madrid will be in the best position to advance to the next round.

Real Madrid met Liverpool it has a good victory but for this time do not know because of inconsistent performance and Liverpool is in glory with Arne Slot so it will be difficult to win as away.

Yes, maybe a draw is still very possible or it could be that Liverpool won this cannot be denied because Liverpool are on fire.

Against Atalanta, Salzburg, Brest, maybe the expected scenario is that Real Madrid wins because this team is more favored in any way, as long as they don't miss again like against Lille if they lose then they will enter the playoffs.

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Quote from: Xcode7 on November 09, 2024, 03:08:54 AM

Barcelona has currently shown a very impressive performance so I am confused why there are still those who doubt them and the matter of Barcelona not being the main favorite in the title race this season because at the beginning of the season they were doubted but now everything is different, Hansi Flick really managed to make a significant difference in the Barcelona team this season.
And to say anything to win the title this season is still too early but I think if we look at what Barcelona has shown this season then they deserve and there is a possibility for that, they just need to maintain their consistency there until the end of the season.

With the results that have been shown by Barcelona at the beginning of this season, of course everyone can conclude that Barcelona has received a better tactical injection from their new coach this season, but if you still see someone who doubts Barcelona this season even though they have seen good results from the Barcelona team, it might be because that person doesn't like the Barcelona team so whatever Barcelona has achieved at the beginning of this season is still very lacking according to them.

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Quote from: mammusu on November 09, 2024, 03:14:54 AM

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Munich is not in a positive momentum after the defeat they got from aston villa and also barcelona, their inconsistent performance is certainly a concern at this time because it is inversely proportional to what we see in bundesliga, the two defeats they got in the champions league showed their weakness in competing with more competitive clubs today, but when compared to PSG, of course munich is still much better in my opinion, although the performance of the two teams is relatively not different at this time, but we must admit that Munich ability to overcome the pressure actually makes them more favoured in the match later, both teams have a great squad at this time so the mentality and also the coach strategy will be a very decisive thing to win in the match.

Munich started the season brilliantly. But Bayern Munich failed to maintain consistency. At the start of the season we saw Bayern Munich win consistently. And most of the matches were won by Bayern Munich by big margins. But Bayern Munich are a bit off form at the moment. Bayern Munich is under a lot of pressure at the moment, especially after losing two matches in the Champions League.

Winning the Bundesliga title is not a difficult task for Bayern Munich. The performances of almost every club in the Bundesliga have been somewhat erratic. Leipzig have dropped back in the title race after losing their last match. So Kompany should now try his best to do well in the Champions League.

PSG's squad should not be compared to Bayern Munich's. PSG's squad now relies on youth. There are very few experienced players in the squad. Bayern Munich on the other hand have a very strong squad.

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Quote from: wakier on November 08, 2024, 10:44:42 PM

Looking at what we have seen so far, Liverpool should have a better chance than Barcelona, but why do bookies put Barcelona in 3rd place in the strong candidates for the UCL title? I am very sure that Liverpool will go far in the UCL, even Madrid and Man City are quite far behind in their respective positions.

There can be many reasons, their domestic results probably play a part too. I mean, they score lots of goals under Flick while Liverpool usually wins with a 2-goal margin or so. I'd say their result against Leverkusen is an outlier considering their other results in the UCL. At the end of the day, prediction can be wrong so I'd not stress out too much about their odds.

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but we must admit that Munich ability to overcome the pressure actually makes them more favoured in the match later, both teams have a great squad at this time so the mentality and also the coach strategy will be a very decisive thing to win in the match.

Based on xG alone I think a draw is quite possible. PSG is quite unlucky not to score 2 goals against Atletico Madrid considering the high xG. But that's football, you have to deal with it to win games.

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They have lost twice in the 4 matches they have played and in week 5 they will face PSG which will certainly not be easy for them to conquer if the target is 3 points. This still seems a little unfavorable for Bayern even though PSG is currently looking alarming in the Champions League but they are not an easy opponent.

After suffering 2 consecutive defeats against Aston Villa and Barcelona, Bayern Munich immediately bounced back in Match 4 by beating Benfica. In my opinion, Bayern Munich will have no trouble hosting PSG at the Allianz Arena as the away team has not won in their last three matches. After the defeat against Atlético Madrid in their last game, PSG are in 25th place in the UCL standings. Munich will be the favorite team in this match because PSG is inconsistent in maintaining its performance this season.

Munich is not in a positive momentum after the defeat they got from aston villa and also barcelona, their inconsistent performance is certainly a concern at this time because it is inversely proportional to what we see in bundesliga, the two defeats they got in the champions league showed their weakness in competing with more competitive clubs today, but when compared to PSG, of course munich is still much better in my opinion, although the performance of the two teams is relatively not different at this time, but we must admit that Munich ability to overcome the pressure actually makes them more favoured in the match later, both teams have a great squad at this time so the mentality and also the coach strategy will be a very decisive thing to win in the match.

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When we are talking about Barcelona's chances to win the title, their chance are low. I said that based on the latest UCL odds. Liverpool still leads to be the most favorite club to win the title, and Barcelona is still at the 6th place.

Barcelona is very productive in the UCL, eventhough they are not in the top 5 for outright odds. This shows Barcelona shall have tried harder to win the title. But, the odds can change based on the UCL results each week.

There are still 4 matches left to be played and I am optimistic that Barcelona has a chance to be in the top 5 in the next 2 matches. As long as Hansi Flick continues to maintain the consistency of his players, there is no reason for Barcelona to decline. Barcelona 5th match will host Brest and in terms of quality if they are able to beat them, it will provide an additional higher chance. Brest has not experienced a defeat but if you look at the opponents who have been defeated, their strength level is below standard then I am sure that Blaugrana is still favored.

Barcelona has currently shown a very impressive performance so I am confused why there are still those who doubt them and the matter of Barcelona not being the main favorite in the title race this season because at the beginning of the season they were doubted but now everything is different, Hansi Flick really managed to make a significant difference in the Barcelona team this season.
And to say anything to win the title this season is still too early but I think if we look at what Barcelona has shown this season then they deserve and there is a possibility for that, they just need to maintain their consistency there until the end of the season.

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Quote from: armanda90 on November 09, 2024, 12:08:40 AM

I doubt Real Madrid will get qualify to knock out round or not with UEFA Champion League new format after defeating 2 of 4 matches and collected 6 points awhile. Last match make many fans shocked after Madrid defeating by not favorable team AC Milan have downtrend performance in domestic league bust success defeating Madrid on their home match. However Madrid have 9 points remaining reach to direct qualify to knock out round from Aston Villa but many teams have few points left to reach higher standings position will make difficult for Madrid get the higher standings position.

Upcoming match, Madrid have to face difficult opponent team Liverpool who leading the first standings awhile and must win if won't loss opportunity to defend the Champion League tittle.

Four matches left for Real Madrid in phase league matches

Liverpool A
Atalanta A
Salzburg H
Brest A

If Madrid does end up in the play-off, I don't think it will be a big deal, but it certainly won't happen.
Although Madrid current performance is inconsistent, I have this assumption,

Liverpool vs Madrid (draw)
Atalanta vs Madrid (Madrid win)
Madrid vs Salzburg (Madrid win)
Brest vs Madrid (Madrid win)

If all the matches are in accordance with this prediction, I am sure Madrid will be in the best position to advance to the next round.

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I doubt Real Madrid will get qualify to knock out round or not with UEFA Champion League new format after defeating 2 of 4 matches and collected 6 points awhile. Last match make many fans shocked after Madrid defeating by not favorable team AC Milan have downtrend performance in domestic league bust success defeating Madrid on their home match. However Madrid have 9 points remaining reach to direct qualify to knock out round from Aston Villa but many teams have few points left to reach higher standings position will make difficult for Madrid get the higher standings position.

Upcoming match, Madrid have to face difficult opponent team Liverpool who leading the first standings awhile and must win if won't loss opportunity to defend the Champion League tittle.

Four matches left for Real Madrid in phase league matches

Liverpool A
Atalanta A
Salzburg H
Brest A

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 08, 2024, 04:15:43 PM

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When we are talking about Barcelona's chances to win the title, their chance are low. I said that based on the latest UCL odds. Liverpool still leads to be the most favorite club to win the title, and Barcelona is still at the 6th place.

Barcelona is very productive in the UCL, eventhough they are not in the top 5 for outright odds. This shows Barcelona shall have tried harder to win the title. But, the odds can change based on the UCL results each week.

You are misinterpreting the data you published. Odds of 6.50 mean a greater chance than odds of 7.0 Barcelona are now literally the third favourite for the title:

Manchester City - 4.50

Real Madrid - 5.50

Barcelona Fc - 6.50

Liverpool - 7.00

Arsenal - 10.00

Fc Bayern Munich - 10.00

And in fact, 6.5 is not much different from 4.5 - the main favorite and 5.5 - the main winner of the Champions League.
Taking into account the decline of the main favorites, I see that the quotes have become much more even.

Looking at what we have seen so far, Liverpool should have a better chance than Barcelona, but why do bookies put Barcelona in 3rd place in the strong candidates for the UCL title? I am very sure that Liverpool will go far in the UCL, even Madrid and Man City are quite far behind in their respective positions.

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Quote from: Raflesia on November 08, 2024, 04:49:28 PM

They have lost twice in the 4 matches they have played and in week 5 they will face PSG which will certainly not be easy for them to conquer if the target is 3 points. This still seems a little unfavorable for Bayern even though PSG is currently looking alarming in the Champions League but they are not an easy opponent.

After suffering 2 consecutive defeats against Aston Villa and Barcelona, Bayern Munich immediately bounced back in Match 4 by beating Benfica. In my opinion, Bayern Munich will have no trouble hosting PSG at the Allianz Arena as the away team has not won in their last three matches. After the defeat against Atlético Madrid in their last game, PSG are in 25th place in the UCL standings. Munich will be the favorite team in this match because PSG is inconsistent in maintaining its performance this season.

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