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Quote from: Agbamoni on October 12, 2024, 06:40:26 PM

This is not the first time Bayern Munich has won Barcelona at home. And with the way Barcelona are playing now, it will be every easy for Bayern Munich to win the game. Other times they have get to meet. The fight was always a fair one. The both team will have an amazing game but only one winner. But this time i am not expecting such an amazing game from Barcelona or am i expecting them to put up a strong fight in the game.

Don't underestimate Bayern right now. You will be surprised what will be the outcome of the game when Bayern takes over the lead in the first half of the game. Am not saying Barcelona will not score. Am just curious to see that after all their struggle they might lose in the end.

Do you mean to predict that in the match between Bayern Munich and Barcelona, Barcelona will lose. I don't think so at all because the Barcelona team has changed enough to make them a much stronger team than before. Before playing against Barcelona, any team should go into the field thinking that they are going to face a strong team. Barcelona and Bayern Munich's performances in the current Champions League season are almost identical. Bayern Munich started their Champions League journey with a win in the first match while Barcelona lost their Champions League first match.

However, while Barcelona won their second match, Bayern Munich lost their second match. Barcelona regained their confidence by winning their second match whereas Bayern Munich lost their second match which resulted in some loss of confidence which will affect their next match.

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Quote from: wakier on October 12, 2024, 11:41:56 PM

Honestly, the strength of Aston Villa and Young Boys cannot be compared. Aston Villa is clearly stronger this season and Bayern Munich lost when facing them while Barcelona won big when facing Young Boys but lost when facing the league 1 team Monaco. In my opinion, the strength of Barcelona and Bayern is not equal. I think Bayern is still quite superior in the UCL at this time. I think Bayern Munich will probably beat Barca's troops later.

That could indeed happen because considering the level of strength possessed by Bayern Munich is still quite strong in the Champions League this season. So Barcelona must play more carefully because Bayern Munich is a team that always takes advantage of good opportunities in important matches. But I don't think Bayern Munich will win with a high score at Barcelona's home later and if Bayern Munich players make more mistakes in the match, of course the victory could be obtained by the home team, namely Barcelona.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on October 13, 2024, 05:44:36 AM

For Flick and his players, this game is going to be a true nightmare because they should play with a young team against a team like Bayern Munich because in Barcelona they have a good team but still Barcelona is not experienced enough and they don't have defenders with the experience of playing against a team like Bayern Munich.
While Barcelona doesn't have good defenders, in Bayern Munich they have Harry Kane who can easily score goals against a team like Barcelona.

I don't think they will be in such psychology like a nightmare. This would just cause them to lose at the beginning. Sad

Yeah they don't have a good history against Bayern Munich. They can't win against them since 2015 despite playing so many times in the meantime. There is even a game which resulted in like 8-2. That was the nightmare. Shocked

But it is still up to Hansi Flick and his students to change their destiny. We see the strongest Barcelona ever in many years. I mean since Messi left. I really hope to see them getting point(s) from this game to start from somewhere.

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I just want to add, not only that, three matches with unsatisfactory results can put mental pressure on Kompany and the Bayern Munich players themselves. drawing against Leverkusen at the Allianz Arena, losing when visiting Aston Villa, drawing against Frankfurt. Before the Barcelona match, Bayern will host Stuttgart. Based on my personal point of view, the results they got in the previous match can affect the team as a whole and also the coach. In general, Flick knows very well the style of play in the German League, especially with his former team Bayern Munich. Furthermore, I have conveyed my assumptions regarding these two teams. What is certain is that this match will be a match of prestige between clubs, players and coaches.

All of these matches that Bayern Munich have played before their upcoming champions league encounter with Barcelona may not really matter in how they’re going to perform in this match. They lost in their last champions league match and I expect them to not settle for a draw in the next match against Barcelona.

Hansi Flick’s Barcelona may want to take advantage of Bayern Munich most recent performance to judge the outcome of this game, but they shouldn’t rely on that only because Bayern Munich is an experienced team in the Bundesliga and their last meeting ended in favour of Bayern Munich in the champions league.

The match will no doubt be a very tough match for both teams that one cannot easily know the outcome result of the game. There is still some little more time for both teams to prepare against this match, so they’ll definitely have a good chance at it, the both of them.

For Flick and his players, this game is going to be a true nightmare because they should play with a young team against a team like Bayern Munich because in Barcelona they have a good team but still Barcelona is not experienced enough and they don't have defenders with the experience of playing against a team like Bayern Munich.
While Barcelona doesn't have good defenders, in Bayern Munich they have Harry Kane who can easily score goals against a team like Barcelona.

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Salah under Slot is back to his best and the man got even better after cutting off his hair

One of the most important elements of Slot's ball is the freedom of their midfielders. They often try to put as many players inside the box as possible.
I loved how central Liverpool plays breaking the lines with very few passes. So effective and good to watch.
And not just Salah, Diaz, Szoboszlai, Gravenberch, Macca, and Trey Nyoni, under Arne Slot ball is fire...
But after the international break, Arne Slot must think harder because before visiting Leipzig, they must host Chelsea at Anfield

I see that you haven't mentioned Nunez. Grin

But I know why of course. The guy just can't improve himself properly at Liverpool. It is his third season there but still not much different. I mean of course a player in different position can take the responsibility of scoring the most number of goals. Just like Salah does it for them. But my point about Nunez is different. He just wastes a lot of goal opportunities. Sad

Anyways, this year I have bigger hopes than Liverpool. I won't lie. I criticized them for not making proper amount of signings last summer. But Arne Slot still does a pretty good job with the current one. I'm curious about their Champions League effort in the rest of the games.

Ah, you know better than me.

Not only at the club but his performance on the national team has not been good either.
Marcelo Bielsa relied on the duo of Darwin Nunez and Cristian Olivera in the front line when Uruguay played against Peru in the 2026 World Cup qualifiers, Uruguay appeared dominant, but look at the result... 1-0 for Peru. lol

I'm not a Liverpool fan but looking at their performance so far, it's understandable that many are hoping they will win the title this season, assuming they don't suffer a storm of injuries...

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Quote from: hyudien on October 13, 2024, 01:51:46 AM

Barcelona will certainly want to break their bad record when facing Bayern Munich, on the other hand Bayern Munich will also feel challenged to maintain and extend their positive record when facing Barcelona. Yes, they both have new coaches, and the performance of both coaches in my opinion is quite satisfying at the beginning of this season. Of course this will be a different match because they both have different coaches too. Hansi Flick will be motivated to be a coach who can bring victory to Barcelona while breaking the bad record, while Vincent Kompany will be a coach who will try hard to continue Bayern Munich's positive trend.

I think it's definitely not about records, everyone wants to win, but for the first time since the start of the season, Bayern have not been able to win three games in a row, let's not talk about the difficulty of the opponents, because we assessed Bayern as favorites in each of these games, and Barcelona's series looks much better. We can also talk about the experience of the coaches, and it will become clear that Kompany will succeed in this as a coach, but he has been through this many times as a player and Bayern's players are also quite experienced. My prediction will be that Barcelona will not lose at home...

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Quote from: koang on October 12, 2024, 05:51:38 AM

Salah under Slot is back to his best and the man got even better after cutting off his hair

One of the most important elements of Slot's ball is the freedom of their midfielders. They often try to put as many players inside the box as possible.
I loved how central Liverpool plays breaking the lines with very few passes. So effective and good to watch.
And not just Salah, Diaz, Szoboszlai, Gravenberch, Macca, and Trey Nyoni, under Arne Slot ball is fire...
But after the international break, Arne Slot must think harder because before visiting Leipzig, they must host Chelsea at Anfield

Does hair affect his performance so far? Cheesy

What is clear is that Arne Slot is the right coach for Liverpool after Jurgen Kloop left, in his first season he was able to provide positive results even though we have not witnessed all of Liverpool's performances but for now I see the club as a tough club even though it is not easy for the players to adapt to a new coach with a different system especially they have been trained by Jurgen Kloop for a long time and it turns out that Arne Slot can understand the character of his players and can provide motivation to work together to improve team performance.
After the international break Liverpool must prepare for quite difficult matches against Chelsea, Leipzig, Arsenal, Brighton, Leverkusen and Aston Villa they are not an easy club to beat we will see how Arne Slot handles this and rotates his players so they don't get tired.

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Barcelona have the slight advantage of being at home in this match but for the rest there's nothing really to suggest they're the favorite to win and I'm pretty much with the bookmakers on this one as I think these are very reasonable odds for a big match.

Its a tough situation to bet on but at the end of the day it's all speculation and I think it would be a shame if this big match was left without any betting on it. I personally might bet that this match will probably end in under 3 or maybe both of team to score. But on the one hand this is also risky especially when looking at the statistics and h2h of the two teams, especially for Barcelona who could not score even 1 goal in the last few meetings against Bayern, it will still be a little risky too but I will try this.

Barcelona and Bayern Munich are familiar with each other when it comes to the champions league competition but one thing that has happened in the two teams is the change of coach and the current squad in the two teams else it would be been an easy game to pick the favorite to win the game. The head to head statistics clearly favours Bayern Munich but the odds are in favour of Barcelona probably because of the performance of Bayern Munich against Aston Villa or the home advantage of Barcelona since they are the host but aside that, I think betting any of the team to win is more risky so both teams to score is a preferred option for me or better still betting them on goals like over 2.5 wouldn't be a bad option because Barcelona and Bayern Munich will definitely want to score each other in the game.

Yes, what you say is true, of course Bayern has often met Barcelona and of course Barcelona always doesn't win in every match, of course this shows that Barcelona at that time was very strong at that time. but of course in the next match we won't know what will happen in their next match. Yes, Barcelona's match against Aston Villa was of course very influential because from that match many people predicted that Bayern would certainly have difficulty against Barcelona later and I personally also believe that in the next match Barcelona will be able to beat Bayern.

Yes, I also see that Barcelona's upcoming match against Bayern will definitely make Barcelona enthusiastic because of course Barcelona being the host will have the potential to make big profits for Barcelona. Yes, I think betting like that is certainly a good thing. but it looks like I want to bet on Barcelona winning and I'm sure 2-1 for Barcelona winning. Yes, even though Barcelona hasn't scored a goal in their last 5 matches, I still have a feeling that Barcelona will win.

Yes, of course, Vincent is the new coach of Bayern and Hansi Flick is the new coach of Barcelona. Yes, we'll see what strategy Vincent and Hansi Flick will implement.

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Quote from: wakier on October 12, 2024, 11:41:56 PM

Honestly, the strength of Aston Villa and Young Boys cannot be compared. Aston Villa is clearly stronger this season and Bayern Munich lost when facing them while Barcelona won big when facing Young Boys but lost when facing the league 1 team Monaco. In my opinion, the strength of Barcelona and Bayern is not equal. I think Bayern is still quite superior in the UCL at this time. I think Bayern Munich will probably beat Barca's troops later.

Aston Villa has displayed to be one of the clubs we had predicted will be coming with some certain surprises this season, though Young Boys was one of the clubs I had in minds will also be very good but I was wrong for seeing them as one the teams, however I'm so happy with the things I'm seeing on the Aston Villa especially on the premier League and also the champions League because if you check there position on the both league table they just have the same, but the little difference about them is that on the premier League table they have the 5 position while on the champions League table they are on the 6 position, so is just perfect.

The only thing I would say to them is to continue that way because not when we would be having a hope on them and they will start dropping from there table like Tottenham Hotspur last season, so after this international break Fulham will be hosting them and at the time trying to get a wining from them because they are of a the same category with Aston Villa but because of some of there draws and losing they had, Aston Villa had to have an increase of of 3 point above them, however I don't know if your opinion or observations in regards to the match is different from mine so you can also share your analysis let's learn.

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Quote from: Farma on October 13, 2024, 12:06:27 AM

Both have performed well with their new head coach this season, Flick also knows the quality of Munich players partly because he was there and Kompany must be very fresh in his strategy, and I think both have stable strength, playing in Barcelona is not easy especially a team that is under construction even though Barcelona rarely wins against Munich at home I think it is not impossible for Barcelona to take revenge.

I think in the continuation of the Champions League by meeting Barcelona Munich will be very fierce, it will be different from when they faced their previous team because they have deep memories of both and I think this match will be fierce, it is difficult to determine who is the best at this time.

Barcelona will certainly want to break their bad record when facing Bayern Munich, on the other hand Bayern Munich will also feel challenged to maintain and extend their positive record when facing Barcelona. Yes, they both have new coaches, and the performance of both coaches in my opinion is quite satisfying at the beginning of this season. Of course this will be a different match because they both have different coaches too. Hansi Flick will be motivated to be a coach who can bring victory to Barcelona while breaking the bad record, while Vincent Kompany will be a coach who will try hard to continue Bayern Munich's positive trend.

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Quote from: wakier on October 12, 2024, 11:41:56 PM

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Bayern Munich also lost when they faced Aston Villa so the strength of the two teams is not that different in my opinion. Barcelona's chances of winning are much greater even though Bayern Munich are in much better overall condition.

Honestly, the strength of Aston Villa and Young Boys cannot be compared. Aston Villa is clearly stronger this season and Bayern Munich lost when facing them while Barcelona won big when facing Young Boys but lost when facing the league 1 team Monaco. In my opinion, the strength of Barcelona and Bayern is not equal. I think Bayern is still quite superior in the UCL at this time. I think Bayern Munich will probably beat Barca's troops later.

Both have performed well with their new head coach this season, Flick also knows the quality of Munich players partly because he was there and Kompany must be very fresh in his strategy, and I think both have stable strength, playing in Barcelona is not easy especially a team that is under construction even though Barcelona rarely wins against Munich at home I think it is not impossible for Barcelona to take revenge.

I think in the continuation of the Champions League by meeting Barcelona Munich will be very fierce, it will be different from when they faced their previous team because they have deep memories of both and I think this match will be fierce, it is difficult to determine who is the best at this time.

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Barcelona have the slight advantage of being at home in this match but for the rest there's nothing really to suggest they're the favorite to win and I'm pretty much with the bookmakers on this one as I think these are very reasonable odds for a big match.

Barcelona being at home or not won't stop Bayern Munich from wanting to disagree them as they always do when the play eachother. Barcelona luck is that the former players of Bayern Munich are retiring and not playing under the new manager Vincent Kompany but another problem that they get to face right now is that, Vincent Kompany would want his players to do to Barcelona want other managers has being doing when they meet in the champions league. Bayern Munich though haven't been very convincing and this might help Barcelona as they can manage to get a point from this game. Barcelona shouldn't play to win but not to lose unless they'll lose.

This is not the first time Bayern Munich has won Barcelona at home. And with the way Barcelona are playing now, it will be every easy for Bayern Munich to win the game. Other times they have get to meet. The fight was always a fair one. The both team will have an amazing game but only one winner. But this time i am not expecting such an amazing game from Barcelona or am i expecting them to put up a strong fight in the game.

Don't underestimate Bayern right now. You will be surprised what will be the outcome of the game when Bayern takes over the lead in the first half of the game. Am not saying Barcelona will not score. Am just curious to see that after all their struggle they might lose in the end.

Barcelona has not been able to play well when facing Bayern Munich, in terms of the quality of Barcelona's game it is very different from Bayern Munich, mentally the Bayern Munich players are too different from the Barcelona players, they always lose concentration when meeting big clubs so it is not surprising that Barcelona's defeat was so surprising to us some time ago with a score of 8-2 of course it reminds us of that time, hopefully Barcelona can be good when the meeting later is able to make significant changes and be able to win.

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Quote from: lizarder on October 12, 2024, 11:09:23 PM

Bayern Munich also lost when they faced Aston Villa so the strength of the two teams is not that different in my opinion. Barcelona's chances of winning are much greater even though Bayern Munich are in much better overall condition.

Honestly, the strength of Aston Villa and Young Boys cannot be compared. Aston Villa is clearly stronger this season and Bayern Munich lost when facing them while Barcelona won big when facing Young Boys but lost when facing the league 1 team Monaco. In my opinion, the strength of Barcelona and Bayern is not equal. I think Bayern is still quite superior in the UCL at this time. I think Bayern Munich will probably beat Barca's troops later.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on October 12, 2024, 06:40:26 PM

This is not the first time Bayern Munich has won Barcelona at home. And with the way Barcelona are playing now, it will be every easy for Bayern Munich to win the game. Other times they have get to meet. The fight was always a fair one. The both team will have an amazing game but only one winner. But this time i am not expecting such an amazing game from Barcelona or am i expecting them to put up a strong fight in the game.

Don't underestimate Bayern right now. You will be surprised what will be the outcome of the game when Bayern takes over the lead in the first half of the game. Am not saying Barcelona will not score. Am just curious to see that after all their struggle they might lose in the end.

Why is it that Bayern Munich can beat Barcelona much easier now compared to previous seasons, is it because they think that Barcelona does not have good game quality under Hans Flick's coaching. So far in several matches that have taken place this season Barcelona has still played very well even though they lost in the match against Monaco. Playing at home also gives them more motivation so that Barcelona can play more aggressively to achieve victory.

Bayern Munich also lost when they faced Aston Villa so the strength of the two teams is not that different in my opinion. Barcelona's chances of winning are much greater even though Bayern Munich are in much better overall condition.

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Barcelona have the slight advantage of being at home in this match but for the rest there's nothing really to suggest they're the favorite to win and I'm pretty much with the bookmakers on this one as I think these are very reasonable odds for a big match.

Barcelona being at home or not won't stop Bayern Munich from wanting to disagree them as they always do when the play eachother. Barcelona luck is that the former players of Bayern Munich are retiring and not playing under the new manager Vincent Kompany but another problem that they get to face right now is that, Vincent Kompany would want his players to do to Barcelona want other managers has being doing when they meet in the champions league. Bayern Munich though haven't been very convincing and this might help Barcelona as they can manage to get a point from this game. Barcelona shouldn't play to win but not to lose unless they'll lose.

This is not the first time Bayern Munich has won Barcelona at home. And with the way Barcelona are playing now, it will be every easy for Bayern Munich to win the game. Other times they have get to meet. The fight was always a fair one. The both team will have an amazing game but only one winner. But this time i am not expecting such an amazing game from Barcelona or am i expecting them to put up a strong fight in the game.

Don't underestimate Bayern right now. You will be surprised what will be the outcome of the game when Bayern takes over the lead in the first half of the game. Am not saying Barcelona will not score. Am just curious to see that after all their struggle they might lose in the end.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on October 12, 2024, 12:53:35 PM

As per the odds. There is no club being favored to win the game easily. This is because Barcelona is well assembled by Flick. It's different with their opponent, Munich, which is coached by an inexperienced coach. This may be the reason why there is only a slight gap in the odds owned by both teams.

And i think that will be very wise to take BTTS instead of 1x2, i meant, i believe both of the clubs will score. They will play openly in this game, and i predict we may see at least more than two goals.

I think both teams scoring is actually a sensible choice for this game.

Currently it feels like both teams are in their best shape and so it will really be a tough task to predict exactly the team who is going to win and who isn't but just like we always do, lets take a look at statistical records and probably we can derive an insight. firstly Barcelona will be playing from hope and that is an advantage already, secondly we need to check what the home performance of Barcelona this season had been like all this while and so it will be okay to check what its been like since this two last met, what the result shad always been like because they are Both experienced UCL teams so they don't see that as an advantage over the other especially now they have got their forms right and having the good coaches, though we may not get a perfect prediction just yet but after considering all of this we are definitely going to get a very good insight to getting an informed pick

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Quote from: Furious 7 on October 12, 2024, 01:45:35 PM

Quote from: shinratensei_ on October 12, 2024, 12:53:35 PM

Barcelona have the slight advantage of being at home in this match but for the rest there's nothing really to suggest they're the favorite to win and I'm pretty much with the bookmakers on this one as I think these are very reasonable odds for a big match.

Its a tough situation to bet on but at the end of the day it's all speculation and I think it would be a shame if this big match was left without any betting on it. I personally might bet that this match will probably end in under 3 or maybe both of team to score. But on the one hand this is also risky especially when looking at the statistics and h2h of the two teams, especially for Barcelona who could not score even 1 goal in the last few meetings against Bayern, it will still be a little risky too but I will try this.

Barcelona and Bayern Munich are familiar with each other when it comes to the champions league competition but one thing that has happened in the two teams is the change of coach and the current squad in the two teams else it would be been an easy game to pick the favorite to win the game. The head to head statistics clearly favours Bayern Munich but the odds are in favour of Barcelona probably because of the performance of Bayern Munich against Aston Villa or the home advantage of Barcelona since they are the host but aside that, I think betting any of the team to win is more risky so both teams to score is a preferred option for me or better still betting them on goals like over 2.5 wouldn't be a bad option because Barcelona and Bayern Munich will definitely want to score each other in the game.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on October 12, 2024, 12:53:35 PM

As per the odds. There is no club being favored to win the game easily. This is because Barcelona is well assembled by Flick. It's different with their opponent, Munich, which is coached by an inexperienced coach. This may be the reason why there is only a slight gap in the odds owned by both teams.

And i think that will be very wise to take BTTS instead of 1x2, i meant, i believe both of the clubs will score. They will play openly in this game, and i predict we may see at least more than two goals.

I think both teams scoring is actually a sensible choice for this game.

The bookmakers placed the odds right because the two teams have the team and the squad to bag the three points in any occasion be it Barcelona or Bayern Munich and be it home or away.
I am seeing this match as a match that will end in a draw, because none of the team will afford to lose the match because they have the same points after the first two games, if one of them lose, they will drop down drastically that is why both Bayern Munich and Barcelona will do their possible best to get point in the match because none of the teams can afford to lose.
I am not expecting much goals in the match, so I cannot bet on both team to score, I will rather bet the match under 3.5 to be safe because just as we are expecting to have more goals, we can see the match as match with less goals than expected.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on October 12, 2024, 12:52:43 PM

Arne Slot will try to get good experience while at Liverpool and he will grow up there if this season he is able to bring Liverpool champions. The problem may not be easy, of course because the English League and Champions League are the two toughest competitions in Europe at the moment. The English League is one of the best leagues in the world, perhaps it is accurate to say that it is the second competition after the Champions League.

Currently Liverpool have won 2 of 8 group stage matches. They have the next 6 matches which are no less difficult, of course they are Leipzig, Leverkusen and also Real Madrid. Two of the 3 teams could probably be beaten in a row, but I'm curious whether Liverpool can beat Real Madrid in the Champions League.

But so far Arne Slot's performance has received a lot of praise from fans because he managed to bring Liverpool to perform well in the domestic league where they managed to win six of the 7 matches they have played. In the Champions League, Arne Slot was also able to make Liverpool a team that was feared by their opponents where it happened when they beat AC Milan in an away game which showed how consistent Arne Slot was in building Liverpool this season.

Two consecutive wins are a pretty good record for them in the Champions League this season. I think it is not impossible for them to qualify from round to round because Liverpool's game is getting better this season. Of course Liverpool's opponents in the Champions League this season are so strong because the next opponent is Leipzig. Which Leipzig is a team that has a pretty good depth under the direction of Marco Rose.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on October 12, 2024, 11:26:45 AM

Mo Salah is one of my favorite players but he’s not as good as he was in his prime. He’s a older player now so we shouldn’t expect to see the Salah we saw in his best years. However Mo Salah has been impressive this season and is capable of doing more under Arne Slot. Salah’s critics have gone silent, talks about if Liverpool made the right decision to extend the contract of the 32 year old has gone silent for the time being. According to reports, Mo Salah has been offered early exit from Egypt duty and will be returning to Liverpool. Saka has already been injured playing in the international break, it seems Liverpool do not want to take that risk with their player, Mo Salah.

Obviously there's usually a decline that comes with players aging, and if salah is beginning to suffer that it wouldn't be surprising but in my opinion I'm not seeing any obvious appearance of such just yet but that which i know for now is that he's not got as much flexibility as he once had much before now. When he was in his prime there were some sort of flexibility he did exhibited even with his conversions on the pitch at times but may not be able to get that done now but he's still very much effective and in form currently those who once criticized the 32 year old was mainly on the grounds of age but its clear at this point that he's still effective beyond that and that is why Liverpool still holds him at high esteem and did appreciated that early exit so he can return so they don't suffer what Arsenal will be suffering after now.

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