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Quote from: Ndabagi01 on October 12, 2024, 03:46:08 PM

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But this is football, just as Barcelona managed to lose to Monaco which they shouldn't have lost, and just like how Bayern managed to lose to Villa which they shouldn't have, then we can assume either of these teams could win their games as well, there isn't really a way to calculate which team is better based on a single game. Kompany is definitely more inexperienced, we know this as a fact and Flick will definitely use this advantage to do what Kompany doesn't expect them to do.

We can’t picture it in that manner as you’ve just said. This two teams are big teams in the champions league and there’s no season they don’t qualify and play in the champions league. Even without the coaches, both team players already have some substantial experience of the competition already. We cannot say that Hansi Flick will win the match because Kompany is not ready to face such a big team like them yet. But yet, he is just coacchin the big team Bayern Munich for the first time and he’s making a good record already and placing the team right above every other team in the league. I just don’t feel this match will be easy for any of the teams to win, they’ve to put in that extra effort before they can win the match.

Basically, Hansi Flick has experience and has been successful with Bayern Munich in the past and thus, at least Hansi Flick understands Bayern Munich very well compared to Kompany who is still relatively new to handling a big team like Bayern Munich. Also, Kompany who is still in the process of increasing his experience in the Champions League and with that, maybe Hansi Flick will get better result than Kompany. Therefore,it is not surprising that Barcelona may be a fairly favored team in this match against Bayern Munich. But even so, I also realize and admit that Bayern Munich remains a great team under Kompany and of course, there is nothing easy to win in a big match like this.

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I think also Hansi Flick is a coach who is equally new to Barcelona, so this argument will not be strong if you look from that side like Kompany, but if you look at H2H wins Barcelona is in a bad experience when meeting with Bayern Munich, now we see that these two teams are in pretty good condition in their domestic league which will make it quite difficult for us to determine who will win, my analysis is quite lucky about this match, but if you talk about feeling and just rely on instinct alone I think Barcelona has the possibility to get a victory.

Regardless of who the coach is, the past history is almost the same where Bayern always looks superior and becomes a nightmare for Barcelona because if you look at the h2h matches of the Setien, Koeman and even Xavi eras, Barcelona was unable to face Bayern's dominance so it is very natural that the match will be like that.

What is different now is Flick who does have memories and experience with Bayern so this can be a reinforcement so that Barcelona can change the results of the match so that they are not the same as previous seasons because Flick must know the outline of Bayern's attack pattern even though their coach is new but the management structure is not much different and the composition of the players is also almost the same so that Flick can at least feel what Bayern will do later.

Bayern when meeting Barcelona always looks great and invincible so this can be a good situation for Flick at this time to prove that he is able to bring Barcelona in a better direction.

yes it is a past that cannot be forgotten, but that is a long time, and we always have the possibility in the future, and you are right that Hansi Flick has been in Bayern Munich, but it is in 2019 so it has been long enough, the year will definitely many changes and at that time also Hansi Flick if I did not forget he was only an assistant coach, but more or less must have a little experience and secret that is still used by the Bayern Munich team in making a game strategy, so this is quite interesting for us to see The match.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on October 12, 2024, 01:45:35 PM

Barcelona have the slight advantage of being at home in this match but for the rest there's nothing really to suggest they're the favorite to win and I'm pretty much with the bookmakers on this one as I think these are very reasonable odds for a big match.

Barcelona being at home or not won't stop Bayern Munich from wanting to disagree them as they always do when the play eachother. Barcelona luck is that the former players of Bayern Munich are retiring and not playing under the new manager Vincent Kompany but another problem that they get to face right now is that, Vincent Kompany would want his players to do to Barcelona want other managers has being doing when they meet in the champions league. Bayern Munich though haven't been very convincing and this might help Barcelona as they can manage to get a point from this game. Barcelona shouldn't play to win but not to lose unless they'll lose.

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Quote from: beerlover on October 12, 2024, 02:03:41 PM

But this is football, just as Barcelona managed to lose to Monaco which they shouldn't have lost, and just like how Bayern managed to lose to Villa which they shouldn't have, then we can assume either of these teams could win their games as well, there isn't really a way to calculate which team is better based on a single game. Kompany is definitely more inexperienced, we know this as a fact and Flick will definitely use this advantage to do what Kompany doesn't expect them to do.

We can’t picture it in that manner as you’ve just said. This two teams are big teams in the champions league and there’s no season they don’t qualify and play in the champions league. Even without the coaches, both team players already have some substantial experience of the competition already. We cannot say that Hansi Flick will win the match because Kompany is not ready to face such a big team like them yet. But yet, he is just coacchin the big team Bayern Munich for the first time and he’s making a good record already and placing the team right above every other team in the league. I just don’t feel this match will be easy for any of the teams to win, they’ve to put in that extra effort before they can win the match.

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Quote from: Jegileman on October 12, 2024, 01:01:56 PM

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I just want to add, not only that, three matches with unsatisfactory results can put mental pressure on Kompany and the Bayern Munich players themselves. drawing against Leverkusen at the Allianz Arena, losing when visiting Aston Villa, drawing against Frankfurt. Before the Barcelona match, Bayern will host Stuttgart. Based on my personal point of view, the results they got in the previous match can affect the team as a whole and also the coach. In general, Flick knows very well the style of play in the German League, especially with his former team Bayern Munich. Furthermore, I have conveyed my assumptions regarding these two teams. What is certain is that this match will be a match of prestige between clubs, players and coaches.

All of these matches that Bayern Munich have played before their upcoming champions league encounter with Barcelona may not really matter in how they’re going to perform in this match. They lost in their last champions league match and I expect them to not settle for a draw in the next match against Barcelona.

Hansi Flick’s Barcelona may want to take advantage of Bayern Munich most recent performance to judge the outcome of this game, but they shouldn’t rely on that only because Bayern Munich is an experienced team in the Bundesliga and their last meeting ended in favour of Bayern Munich in the champions league.

The match will no doubt be a very tough match for both teams that one cannot easily know the outcome result of the game. There is still some little more time for both teams to prepare against this match, so they’ll definitely have a good chance at it, the both of them.

You never know whether these games have an impact or not. It is not that Barcelona is closing their eyes when Bayern plays. Barcelona knows that tight defense lines give Bayern a hard time get through despite their amazing offensive players. Kane has had problems and Musiala has had problems. Dribblings and so on is all good, but they can't score the goals in the right moments and that is a problem against all the teams mentioned. Aston Villa can punish that and Leverkusen can punish that and I am pretty sure that Barcelona can punish that. Bayern needs to improve their effectiveness in the game. They can have the ball 90% of the time and it doesn't make a difference when Barcelona scores the one decisive goal.

If you look at it more closely, Bayern has taken a few hits now and those were not some negligible games. They have all been important and now the next loss could get Kompany into his first trouble already.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on October 12, 2024, 01:45:35 PM

Quote from: shinratensei_ on October 12, 2024, 12:53:35 PM

Barcelona have the slight advantage of being at home in this match but for the rest there's nothing really to suggest they're the favorite to win and I'm pretty much with the bookmakers on this one as I think these are very reasonable odds for a big match.

Its a tough situation to bet on but at the end of the day it's all speculation and I think it would be a shame if this big match was left without any betting on it. I personally might bet that this match will probably end in under 3 or maybe both of team to score. But on the one hand this is also risky especially when looking at the statistics and h2h of the two teams, especially for Barcelona who could not score even 1 goal in the last few meetings against Bayern, it will still be a little risky too but I will try this.

I have often said before that Barcelona's advantage is having a coach who already has experience in the German league and it must be remembered that they are the host so it is very natural for bookies to place Barcelona above Bayern Munich.
H2H can be a picture for us as bettors what to do but their past will not give the same results in the present with the current conditions of the two teams which are different in the sense that they are coached by new coaches for each team this season and both have shown positive results in their domestic leagues.
I assume the Blaugrana will not be humiliated again like before. They can score goals, another possibility is to win even though on the other hand Bayern also has the same chance but in the end if we have to determine the best option bet, maybe bet on both teams scoring goals, at least more than 2 goals I put a score of 2-1 in the prediction for both sides because I doubt the draw at the end of the match.

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Quote from: Ryu_Ar1 on October 12, 2024, 12:55:49 PM

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I see that you haven't mentioned Nunez. Grin

But I know why of course. The guy just can't improve himself properly at Liverpool. It is his third season there but still not much different. I mean of course a player in different position can take the responsibility of scoring the most number of goals. Just like Salah does it for them. But my point about Nunez is different. He just wastes a lot of goal opportunities. Sad

It is difficult when we discuss Nunez's current situation. 2 seasons of the Klopp era he could not contribute much and did not even really match the price even though it was not too bad in terms of appearance because it could still score goals but when we compare the ratio of goals scored and opportunities owned then indeed this is a bit lame and this season it seems that Slot does not want to try more on this player because he wants to minimize the risk of the overall performance of the team.

During this season we can even see that there are only a few matches where he played more than 50 minutes in a match, namely when Liverpool faced Bournemouth in the EPL and when they faced Bologna in the Champions League. Indeed, when facing West Ham in the EFL he played full but in this case we know that this is only a form of rotation from Slot to rest some core players for more serious competition, the rest of Nunez does not get too much playing time.

Actually i liked Nunez because he is not selfish player and in the particular matches when he was played nunez is a player who moves freely and he is not lazy although his position as a striker but sometimes Nunez are willing to helps the defense but indeed Nunez is flop compared to when he still playing at Benfica and as a striker people always be judging the player by their goal records and during joining with Liverpool Nunez indeed has important contribution but unfortunately he was unable to in form

Although Arne Slot always be played Diogo Jota as a striker than Nunez but certainly Liverpool still needed Nunez this because Liverpool have to playing with at least 3 different competitions including Champion league so they cannot rely on Jota only for striker position so that's why when Liverpool playing against West Ham at Carabao Cup Arne Slot did a rotation and in my opinion if he want to gets one place on Liverpool starting lineup then Nunez have to prove it by scoring a lot of goals every time he is played

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Quote from: salad daging on October 12, 2024, 05:08:43 AM

New coach Hansi Flick v Vincent Kompany will have their own strategy and tactics and it's true that a new coach might change the outcome.

H2H statistics are bad during the meeting with Bayer Munich Barcelona always lost several matches, now a little different maybe in terms of the coach and also some players are better which means the game will be fierce as well as Bayern Munich.

Barcelona - has Lewandowski and Lamile Yamal.
Bayern Munich - has Harry Kane and Musiala.

Some players are no less good to help their attack later.
I see this game may be balanced but my own feeling is that Bayern Munich will win.

Experience definitely has something to do with this, I do not think Kompany is ready to face Barcelona size team just yet. I feel as if Flick has been around these places before and had some big games in his life and he will be more ready.

But this is football, just as Barcelona managed to lose to Monaco which they shouldn't have lost, and just like how Bayern managed to lose to Villa which they shouldn't have, then we can assume either of these teams could win their games as well, there isn't really a way to calculate which team is better based on a single game. Kompany is definitely more inexperienced, we know this as a fact and Flick will definitely use this advantage to do what Kompany doesn't expect them to do.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on October 12, 2024, 12:53:35 PM

Barcelona have the slight advantage of being at home in this match but for the rest there's nothing really to suggest they're the favorite to win and I'm pretty much with the bookmakers on this one as I think these are very reasonable odds for a big match.

Its a tough situation to bet on but at the end of the day it's all speculation and I think it would be a shame if this big match was left without any betting on it. I personally might bet that this match will probably end in under 3 or maybe both of team to score. But on the one hand this is also risky especially when looking at the statistics and h2h of the two teams, especially for Barcelona who could not score even 1 goal in the last few meetings against Bayern, it will still be a little risky too but I will try this.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on October 12, 2024, 12:53:35 PM

As per the odds. There is no club being favored to win the game easily. This is because Barcelona is well assembled by Flick. It's different with their opponent, Munich, which is coached by an inexperienced coach. This may be the reason why there is only a slight gap in the odds owned by both teams.

And i think that will be very wise to take BTTS instead of 1x2, i meant, i believe both of the clubs will score. They will play openly in this game, and i predict we may see at least more than two goals.

I think both teams scoring is actually a sensible choice for this game.

Flick actually arranged this Barcelona team very well, the young boys are very good and they have teamwork that is helping them to win matches easily, so far this season, they have been amazing in the Laliga despite people expecting them to perform below expectations, but Henson Flick used the available players to get good results for the team.

The odds are fair for both teams, the home team have the Lowe off because of high expectations of winning, while the away team have an off that is reasonable for betting.
Choosing who to win in this game can be risky because because of how well the two teams are performing in their respective domestic leagues, I will go with both teams to score which is very possible because Bayern have Harry Kane, and Barcelona have Lewandowski.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on October 12, 2024, 01:33:09 PM

PSG journey to qualify for the last 16 is quite steep, Bayern Munchen, Atletico Madrid and Man City have the potential to make the Ligue 1 representatives lose points. Of course, Enrique must take advantage of the opportunity to get maximum points when facing PSV, Salzburg, and Stuttgart which are slightly easier. The competition to finish in the top 8 of the standings will actually be very tight, not only felt by PSG, all contestants feel it. Goal productivity and minimal goals conceded seem to be very helpful for the ambition of each contestant to finish in the top 8.

It seems that Enrique must prepare his team to face other scenarios to be able to reach the last 16, because they might have to go through the play-off round. The increasing number of matches will certainly drain the players energy, besides that they must also be ready for the increasing competition in domestic competitions. All challenges can be overcome if PSG carries a collective game, although at first glance they still have difficulty scoring goals when needed, this is a test that might make them forget Mbappe role completely.

Top 8 is really going to be a hell of a task to accomplish, but that applies to almost any team. Bayern Munich could be in trouble reaching top 8.

For PSG the goal is of course to still make it, but it is extremely valuable to at least finish as high as possible in the standings as the opponent for the play-off round is very likely to be much weaker than PSG (on paper).

But should they fail at getting full points against PSV, Salzburg and Stuttgart, they could get into trouble because then they might face a team like Bayern or Barcelona in the play-offs, both of which have a defeat to their books already.

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PSG have difficult position for qualifying directly to knock out round after collecting three points from two matches, defeated by Arsenal last match make PSG have secure all three points on six matches left exactly have three difficult opponent teams from facing Atletico Madrid, Bayern Munich and Manchester City. New format make difficult for every team reach the top eight position standings get qualify to knock out round and PSG waiting by most difficult opponent team on six matches left later.

In my opinion, facing PSV, Salzburg and Stuttgart seems have opportunities for securing three points but I doubt when facing Manchester City, Bayern Munich or Atletico Madrid will be most difficult opponent teams and doubt with PSG will easily get three points. PSG must securing three points on upcoming match against easily teams PSV before facing difficult teams.

PSG journey to qualify for the last 16 is quite steep, Bayern Munchen, Atletico Madrid and Man City have the potential to make the Ligue 1 representatives lose points. Of course, Enrique must take advantage of the opportunity to get maximum points when facing PSV, Salzburg, and Stuttgart which are slightly easier. The competition to finish in the top 8 of the standings will actually be very tight, not only felt by PSG, all contestants feel it. Goal productivity and minimal goals conceded seem to be very helpful for the ambition of each contestant to finish in the top 8.

It seems that Enrique must prepare his team to face other scenarios to be able to reach the last 16, because they might have to go through the play-off round. The increasing number of matches will certainly drain the players energy, besides that they must also be ready for the increasing competition in domestic competitions. All challenges can be overcome if PSG carries a collective game, although at first glance they still have difficulty scoring goals when needed, this is a test that might make them forget Mbappe role completely.

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Quote from: Moreno233 on October 12, 2024, 01:08:52 PM

Quote from: shinratensei_ on October 12, 2024, 12:53:35 PM

As per the odds. There is no club being favored to win the game easily. This is because Barcelona is well assembled by Flick. It's different with their opponent, Munich, which is coached by an inexperienced coach. This may be the reason why there is only a slight gap in the odds owned by both teams.

And i think that will be very wise to take BTTS instead of 1x2, i meant, i believe both of the clubs will score. They will play openly in this game, and i predict we may see at least more than two goals.

I think both teams scoring is actually a sensible choice for this game.

Judging by the odd, the bookies expect Barcelona to win the match that is why they were given lower odds. The draw odd is 4 which shows that the bookies think that draw is highly unlikely in the match. I don't want to agree with the bookies because the match is very sensitive and can go either side. Barcelona have not been so lucky at winning Bayern Munich and I don't know if that will change this season. Based on that, I expect the match to be very hard to predict. Although Barcelona seem to be doing very well this season but Bayern Munic will be hard to beat in the champions league.

Looking at the odds given by the bookmaker, I think this match could end in a draw. We can see that there are currently many surprising matches from the new system in the current UCL and while the bookmaker are doubting Bayern Munich.
On the one hand, on paper Bayern Munich is far superior and has even beaten Barcelona with a very large score. And Munich should be able to win this match.

But the conclusion of my prediction, if you want to take the risk to get big odds, it is better to choose to bet on Munich's victory with odds @2.95.
And if in doubt, you can choose the option said by @shinratensei_ to choose BTTS. Because I am really sure that both teams will score because the lowest Asian handicap is around 2.25 and the upper odds are around 4.75.
However, if you dare to speculate and avoid surprises, we can choose to bet on over 3.5 to get odds @1.90

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I don't think there will be a favorite in the match between Bayern Munich and Barcelona because Barcelona can get surprise defeats in some matches. Bayern Munich is also going through a very good process this year. Don't let the draw in the last match fool us, they played very well. Frankfurt saved many positions with their goalkeeper and they caught the equalizer in the last second. In such a game, the dominant Bayern Munich confines Barcelona to its own field. This match has a chance for both teams to win.

As per the odds. There is no club being favored to win the game easily. This is because Barcelona is well assembled by Flick. It's different with their opponent, Munich, which is coached by an inexperienced coach. This may be the reason why there is only a slight gap in the odds owned by both teams.

And i think that will be very wise to take BTTS instead of 1x2, i meant, i believe both of the clubs will score. They will play openly in this game, and i predict we may see at least more than two goals.

I think both teams scoring is actually a sensible choice for this game.

Judging by the odd, the bookies expect Barcelona to win the match that is why they were given lower odds. The draw odd is 4 which shows that the bookies think that draw is highly unlikely in the match. I don't want to agree with the bookies because the match is very sensitive and can go either side. Barcelona have not been so lucky at winning Bayern Munich and I don't know if that will change this season. Based on that, I expect the match to be very hard to predict. Although Barcelona seem to be doing very well this season but Bayern Munic will be hard to beat in the champions league.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on October 12, 2024, 12:54:12 PM

I just want to add, not only that, three matches with unsatisfactory results can put mental pressure on Kompany and the Bayern Munich players themselves. drawing against Leverkusen at the Allianz Arena, losing when visiting Aston Villa, drawing against Frankfurt. Before the Barcelona match, Bayern will host Stuttgart. Based on my personal point of view, the results they got in the previous match can affect the team as a whole and also the coach. In general, Flick knows very well the style of play in the German League, especially with his former team Bayern Munich. Furthermore, I have conveyed my assumptions regarding these two teams. What is certain is that this match will be a match of prestige between clubs, players and coaches.

All of these matches that Bayern Munich have played before their upcoming champions league encounter with Barcelona may not really matter in how they’re going to perform in this match. They lost in their last champions league match and I expect them to not settle for a draw in the next match against Barcelona.

Hansi Flick’s Barcelona may want to take advantage of Bayern Munich most recent performance to judge the outcome of this game, but they shouldn’t rely on that only because Bayern Munich is an experienced team in the Bundesliga and their last meeting ended in favour of Bayern Munich in the champions league.

The match will no doubt be a very tough match for both teams that one cannot easily know the outcome result of the game. There is still some little more time for both teams to prepare against this match, so they’ll definitely have a good chance at it, the both of them.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 12, 2024, 05:59:44 AM

I see that you haven't mentioned Nunez. Grin

But I know why of course. The guy just can't improve himself properly at Liverpool. It is his third season there but still not much different. I mean of course a player in different position can take the responsibility of scoring the most number of goals. Just like Salah does it for them. But my point about Nunez is different. He just wastes a lot of goal opportunities. Sad

It is difficult when we discuss Nunez's current situation. 2 seasons of the Klopp era he could not contribute much and did not even really match the price even though it was not too bad in terms of appearance because it could still score goals but when we compare the ratio of goals scored and opportunities owned then indeed this is a bit lame and this season it seems that Slot does not want to try more on this player because he wants to minimize the risk of the overall performance of the team.

During this season we can even see that there are only a few matches where he played more than 50 minutes in a match, namely when Liverpool faced Bournemouth in the EPL and when they faced Bologna in the Champions League. Indeed, when facing West Ham in the EFL he played full but in this case we know that this is only a form of rotation from Slot to rest some core players for more serious competition, the rest of Nunez does not get too much playing time.

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Quote from: red4slash on October 12, 2024, 06:46:58 AM

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Regardless of who the coach is, the past history is almost the same where Bayern always looks superior and becomes a nightmare for Barcelona because if you look at the h2h matches of the Setien, Koeman and even Xavi eras, Barcelona was unable to face Bayern's dominance so it is very natural that the match will be like that.

What is different now is Flick who does have memories and experience with Bayern so this can be a reinforcement so that Barcelona can change the results of the match so that they are not the same as previous seasons because Flick must know the outline of Bayern's attack pattern even though their coach is new but the management structure is not much different and the composition of the players is also almost the same so that Flick can at least feel what Bayern will do later.

Bayern when meeting Barcelona always looks great and invincible so this can be a good situation for Flick at this time to prove that he is able to bring Barcelona in a better direction.

I just want to add, not only that, three matches with unsatisfactory results can put mental pressure on Kompany and the Bayern Munich players themselves. drawing against Leverkusen at the Allianz Arena, losing when visiting Aston Villa, drawing against Frankfurt. Before the Barcelona match, Bayern will host Stuttgart. Based on my personal point of view, the results they got in the previous match can affect the team as a whole and also the coach. In general, Flick knows very well the style of play in the German League, especially with his former team Bayern Munich. Furthermore, I have conveyed my assumptions regarding these two teams. What is certain is that this match will be a match of prestige between clubs, players and coaches.

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Yes Bayern have been impressive every time they play against Barcelona even when they still have Messi. Munich has always been able to beat Barcelona every time they play. It is hard to choose which team will win this match. Both have the same points and Munich has a better goal difference. But I think Barcelona will be able to win this match.

This season could be different because the change in Barcelona's performance has also been quite visible this season and I also feel that Barcelona will definitely be able to win their home game when they host Bayern Munich in that match. However, because this is the Champions League where every team will definitely use the best quality core players, of course every victory must be achieved in a very difficult way because Bayern Munich always tries to be a very strong team in the Champions League.

I don't think there will be a favorite in the match between Bayern Munich and Barcelona because Barcelona can get surprise defeats in some matches. Bayern Munich is also going through a very good process this year. Don't let the draw in the last match fool us, they played very well. Frankfurt saved many positions with their goalkeeper and they caught the equalizer in the last second. In such a game, the dominant Bayern Munich confines Barcelona to its own field. This match has a chance for both teams to win.

As per the odds. There is no club being favored to win the game easily. This is because Barcelona is well assembled by Flick. It's different with their opponent, Munich, which is coached by an inexperienced coach. This may be the reason why there is only a slight gap in the odds owned by both teams.

And i think that will be very wise to take BTTS instead of 1x2, i meant, i believe both of the clubs will score. They will play openly in this game, and i predict we may see at least more than two goals.

I think both teams scoring is actually a sensible choice for this game.

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In as much as I quite agree with some of the points you made, I would also want to state that it takes a good coach with an extraordinary personality to achieve such a laudable feat with a team like Liverpool despite the fact that coach Arne slot is not a famous coach and may not have managed a team in the magnitude or class of Liverpool, be that as it may, you would agree with me that so many experienced coaches didn't succeed with teams with great players and wonderful tactics which was why I said that the Liverpool bosses style is quite commendable because it is rare.

Arne Slot will try to get good experience while at Liverpool and he will grow up there if this season he is able to bring Liverpool champions. The problem may not be easy, of course because the English League and Champions League are the two toughest competitions in Europe at the moment. The English League is one of the best leagues in the world, perhaps it is accurate to say that it is the second competition after the Champions League.

Currently Liverpool have won 2 of 8 group stage matches. They have the next 6 matches which are no less difficult, of course they are Leipzig, Leverkusen and also Real Madrid. Two of the 3 teams could probably be beaten in a row, but I'm curious whether Liverpool can beat Real Madrid in the Champions League.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on October 12, 2024, 08:42:19 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on October 12, 2024, 05:59:44 AM

Anyways, this year I have bigger hopes than Liverpool. I won't lie. I criticized them for not making proper amount of signings last summer. But Arne Slot still does a pretty good job with the current one. I'm curious about their Champions League effort in the rest of the games.

Liverpool this season is really good and beyond my expectation. I am the same as you. I wonder why Liverpool did not recruit players this season. I thought they would adapt to the new coach. But it seems that Arne Slot has found a good chemistry. It looks like Liverpool is ready to be a title contender.

Arnse Slot positive impact on the team's performance is extraordinary and no one thought that he will be able to do a good job like this. He will take the team far this season in UCL and I hope that he will not have much challenges when he is faced with big, strong clubs because that is what will determine his success.

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Quote from: red4slash on October 12, 2024, 06:46:58 AM

Bayern when meeting Barcelona always looks great and invincible so this can be a good situation for Flick at this time to prove that he is able to bring Barcelona in a better direction.

Yes Bayern have been impressive every time they play against Barcelona even when they still have Messi. Munich has always been able to beat Barcelona every time they play. It is hard to choose which team will win this match. Both have the same points and Munich has a better goal difference. But I think Barcelona will be able to win this match.

If with Messi Bayern win Barcelona, why do yo think that it is impossible now. Flick might be a good coach but for the fact that Bayern has always been a threat to them and do steal their glory, Barcelona should be very careful on the pitch so that they can break that curse.

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