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Quote from: Tony116 on November 30, 2024, 02:26:09 PM

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At least, Atalanta also has a mission to take revenge for its defeat in the UEFA Super Cup and also, so far Atalanta is also still unbeaten in the Champion League. Atalanta has a good record or result even though at first Atalanta was not the favorite team, but after five matches that have been played that Atalanta has three wins and two draws. With Atalanta's good trend so far and Real Madrid's bad trend at this moment, then of course I personally might also choose Atalanta to win or maybe, bet with the over goal option and or both teams score. But even so, I personally also still strongly recognize that Real Madrid still has a very large possibility to be able to rise, because Real Madrid's position must be quickly improved in the Champion League standings.

Atalanta's performance this season has surprised me quite a bit. This team has been playing great since the beginning of the season. Atalanta has continued its winning streak in Serie A. The second place in the Serie A table is now occupied by Atalanta. Atalanta's attack is very strong this season. Atalanta is the highest scorer in Serie A so far.

Atalanta's players have been able to maintain their performance stability in the Champions League as well. Atalanta has not faced defeat in any match in the Champions League. Atalanta is in fifth place in the Champions League table. The team has conceded only 1 goal in 5 matches. I am waiting for the Atalanta vs Madrid match.

Hmmm that's truly magnificent. Atlanta is doing well from the beginning of the season. Now they are undefeated in the UEFA champions league competition. Atlanta's growing confidence and great morale are an alarming tone for Real Madrid. Due to its consistent work, Atlanta is considered one of the prominent and stronger candidates for league competition in its league. On the other hand, it will be a tough match for Real Madrid. Atlanta is on an undefeated run track in the Uefa Champions League at the same time. Real Madrid had to put in their best efforts. The final result of Qulify can also be concluded from this match. Because Real madrid is currently seen as having 24th rank, if Atlanta remains weak against and returns to Liverpool defeated, Real Madrid will be completely eliminated from being qualified.

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Quote from: fulcare on November 30, 2024, 03:58:22 PM

Are we talking about the odds that bookmakers provide or are we talking about our personal opinions? Considering how these two teams have been playing, if somebody asked me whether I put my money on Atalanta or on Real Madrid if I had to, I would without a doubt go with Atalanta. It is a home game in Bergamo for them, Real Madrid has to leave half their team at home because of injuries, Mbappe isn't performing and they are out of alternatives. No question for me, Atalanta is the slight favorite in this game.

Atalanta are not as strong as Liverpool, so I still think they will share the points with Real Madrid. I don’t mean to belittle Atalanta impressive record in the Champions League this season, and I don’t want to ignore the half-dozen injuries to Ancelotti key players, but I am trying to see Real Madrid as a team with a number of quality rotation options. Atalanta failed to score against Arsenal and Celtic, which is something to consider. Besides, Ancelotti is no stranger to the Serie A side, and he has plenty of experience of facing them. When Real Madrid are under pressure, they can almost always turn things around, especially in the Champions League.

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Quote from: promise444c5 on November 22, 2024, 04:37:51 AM

At Cap nou right?? I hope so even though that's laliga ... I don't believe in stadium super powers anyways but revenge it is??.
The. best thing he can do is not playing both of them at the same time just that there're no abundant resources to do that at the moment so he has to find a way to make them play together maybe that could even solve future things. Hence,he favourites players sometimes some of his boys are not getting enough playing time, now that he need them how can he know which(not like they are not good though )..

You could say yes, although the truth is that it is very difficult to achieve that objective of beating them in that stadium and because of the number of goals that are owed, I really think that Barcelona will take care of that, but it is not something impossible, if Madrid is only good enough they have to do it or try to do it so that it remains in a "tie" let's say it like that so as not to use the word "revenge", given these things we have to see things the right way, because that goal average does influence, if they remain tied then that weighs, then it would not be revenge, it would be equalizing things.

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Madrid is in an unsafe position now, maybe they are still in the top 24, but if they lose again in the next match, their chances of getting into the last 16 will be even smaller. The only chance for Madrid to qualify for the last 16 is by participating in the play-off round if Madrid is ranked in the top 24 where the teams ranked 9-24 will compete in the play-off round. I still want to see Madrid go far in the UCL this season.

In the remaining three match Real Madrid will face Atalanta away then against Salzburg at home and also the last one is against Brest and of course these three team are not strong team and it is still possible for them to save points even though they are in bad shape.
But Real Madrid must be careful for the next match against Atalanta considering Atalanta good performance and they could give surprise and beat Real Madrid, there is still big chance for them to be in the safe zone so they can continue to enter the play-off round.

Real Madrid got players they needed however they got many injured players are in this team which can have a negative effect on this team and maybe it was the reason Real Madrid lost the game against Liverpool but since Real Madrid was always famous for this good performance they had in the Champions League now they are under pressure because the recent results they got.
Even now Real Madrid's coach Carlo Ancelotti is under pressure and I feel there is a chance for him to leave the team or get fired. While if they beat Atalanta, Carlo Ancelotti can also take a breath.

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At the moment, the odds of Liverpool, which are leading with a 100% result and winning a head-to-head meeting with Real, are estimated at 5.50 (Liverpool is the favorite for the title according to bookmakers), and the odds of Real are estimated at 7.50. There's not much difference between the favorite and the one which's at risk of not making the playoffs, is there? I don't think anyone is considering this option seriously, but PSG is under threat.

The situation of Real Madrid is somewhat unpredictable now. They could just lose the next match who knows and they could win. We are no much reliant on Real Madrid as a big team until they return to good form. And also the majority of their players need to be available for use. Ancelotti is gradually becoming frustrated and more frustration will come when the team don't win and also Mbappe doesn't score.
If Real Madrid doesn't qualify in the first spot, it will be ridiculous especially as they are the defending champions.

This is ridiculous. A few bad games and you've crossed Real off the list of big teams? Then where do you think City and Barcelona are? Even lower?
Real Madrid have games with Atalanta, Salzburg and Brest ahead. 6 points (which looks more than realistic) will ensure a place in the playoffs and only there will the real games begin, by which it will be possible to judge the strength of the teams.

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Real Madrid isn't really as far away from success as people make out to be. I am sure that they will finish in top 24, which means that they will have a chance to win it all as well, they just need to make sure that they have most of their players healed by then.

Aside from Carvajal, all the important players will return this season, in a month or so, some two months, but Vini will be back in a month for example, and most others will return quickly. So all they have to do is wait, and win some of these remaining games, and be in top 24, that's it. After that, it's just a few games that takes them to finals, and I am sure all of this is still quite possible, not saying that's what will happen, I am just saying people are overreacting like the season is over, nothing is over yet.

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Atalanta will be a huge problem for Real Mardid.
As the things stays today Atalanta can easly face any team in the Champions League and have an opportunity to win.

I'm not crazy as today Atalanta can be one of the favorite for the final win.

In 5 months anything can change but TODAY they are not inferior to anyone.

In group stage, yeah. Atalanta have been doing an amazing work. They don't struggle to score and have a really strong defense at the same time. They are way better than Real Madrid in these statistics as well.

Look at these odds. The gap is so close... I would even make a fun bet on Atalanta to win at these odds. Grin

Real Madrid is dealing with many injuries including important names such as Vinicius Junior too. If he doesn't play in this one they would struggle in the attacking line just like they did against Liverpool.

Atalanta is the favourite this season. They are doing better. Real Madrid currently has no doubt they have been winning their matches. Atalanta rank 5th in the Champions League table currently, and Real Madrid are still behind, so they will definitely try everything possible to win the match so they can continue securing their point. However, in the upcoming match, Atalanta is the favourite; even if we don’t follow the odds, we can justify that by the performance they are doing better than them.

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Sometimes people make their expectations so high that they forget the time factor that is always involved in keeping keeping up and building some standards, it's really crazy trying to compare slots less than a season reign to klops decade performance and records, like you did said it's literally disrespectful, slot has been really excellent but it cannot be compared to kolp in any way already because there's a history to which slot hasn't attained as with klop.

If you want to compare Jürgen Klopp and Ane Slot, you are not wrong. Arne Slot did better than Jürgen Klopp. Klopp didn't start in a good note like Slot. I didn't actually expect Slot to hit the ground running immediately but he successfully did it and is still doing it. You don't have to judge the whole career of Klopp in Liverpool with few weeks stay of Slot. You compare in different stages according to their durations.

Considering what Arne Slot have been able to achieve in the first six months as a Liverpool manager, it's obvious he has a better record than what Jurgen Klopp achieved in that same period as a Liverpool manager but we can't shy away from the fact that the German manager many things as a Liverpool manager which we aren't sure Slot will be able to achieve in his throughout his time at Anfield.
If Slot continues with the rate he's winning games, I believe he'll end up winning more trophies than his predecessor did at Liverpool but I'll still suggest he gets the supports he needs for now why we spare him the pressures of comparisons

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Quote from: EL MOHA on November 29, 2024, 05:19:06 PM

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No way that the game is a 50/50 game. Atalanta is the favorite in that game because Real Madrid is in shambles with all those injured players while Atalanta is going through a real hype. I think playing against them in their home stadium in Atalanta right now could be a huge problem for every team in the world. Not only Real Madrid, but I think Liverpool would have problems as well. They are in an outstanding condition and win their games with some much confidence that they won't fear Real Madrid for a second. And also, Real Madrid can't lose while Atalanta plays with much less pressure.

It’s definitely a 50/50 game with both teams looking to have almost 2.5 odds each, Real Madrid have been totally poor in a competition that is definitely bossed by them but it will be bad ruling them out early in any match. Even against Liverpool they weren’t actually too poor because they were creating chances but were just not converting it to goals which was what let them down plus the fact that the Liverpool were exceptional in the game just like they have been all season. This Atlanta game is a must win for Madrid just to stay in the playoffs position too. For me I am pitching for a Real Madrid win

Are we talking about the odds that bookmakers provide or are we talking about our personal opinions? Considering how these two teams have been playing, if somebody asked me whether I put my money on Atalanta or on Real Madrid if I had to, I would without a doubt go with Atalanta. It is a home game in Bergamo for them, Real Madrid has to leave half their team at home because of injuries, Mbappe isn't performing and they are out of alternatives. No question for me, Atalanta is the slight favorite in this game.

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Arne Slot has impressed all of us but it will be disrespectful to start comparing Arne Slot to Jurgen Klopp at this early stage. I don't think comparing Arne Slot with Klopp’s legacy at Liverpool is ideal. Arne Slot is a good coach and he deserve the accolade for quickly adapting to the pattern of Liverpool and making them to play fantastic football. But he inherited a good squad from Klopp, could he have achieved this much if he took over from a bad coach with a poor team?

Sometimes people make their expectations so high that they forget the time factor that is always involved in keeping keeping up and building some standards, it's really crazy trying to compare slots less than a season reign to klops decade performance and records, like you did said it's literally disrespectful, slot has been really excellent but it cannot be compared to kolp in any way already because there's a history to which slot hasn't attained as with klop.

If you want to compare Jürgen Klopp and Ane Slot, you are not wrong. Arne Slot did better than Jürgen Klopp. Klopp didn't start in a good note like Slot. I didn't actually expect Slot to hit the ground running immediately but he successfully did it and is still doing it. You don't have to judge the whole career of Klopp in Liverpool with few weeks stay of Slot. You compare in different stages according to their durations.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on November 30, 2024, 02:17:32 PM

Arne Slot has impressed all of us but it will be disrespectful to start comparing Arne Slot to Jurgen Klopp at this early stage. I don't think comparing Arne Slot with Klopp’s legacy at Liverpool is ideal. Arne Slot is a good coach and he deserve the accolade for quickly adapting to the pattern of Liverpool and making them to play fantastic football. But he inherited a good squad from Klopp, could he have achieved this much if he took over from a bad coach with a poor team?

Sometimes people make their expectations so high that they forget the time factor that is always involved in keeping keeping up and building some standards, it's really crazy trying to compare slots less than a season reign to klops decade performance and records, like you did said it's literally disrespectful, slot has been really excellent but it cannot be compared to kolp in any way already because there's a history to which slot hasn't attained as with klop.

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This time the situation is very different from the previous match, a number of key Real Madrid players are injured giving Atalanta an advantage. Real Madrid also failed to maintain their performance after their squad limped, so far they have suffered 3 defeats from 5 matches, this situation will be used by Atalanta to continue the negative trend that has not been touched by defeat in the 5 games that have been played.

Playing at Atalanta's home ground which is in a fairly good position will indeed be very difficult for Real Madrid who are currently still experiencing quite concerning conditions due to the many main players who are injured. I also doubt Real Madrid can win the next match, but Ancelotti will definitely try to find a better way so that Real Madrid does not lose again in the next match in the Champions League because Real Madrid's current position is very bad in the Champions League standings.

At least, Atalanta also has a mission to take revenge for its defeat in the UEFA Super Cup and also, so far Atalanta is also still unbeaten in the Champion League. Atalanta has a good record or result even though at first Atalanta was not the favorite team, but after five matches that have been played that Atalanta has three wins and two draws. With Atalanta's good trend so far and Real Madrid's bad trend at this moment, then of course I personally might also choose Atalanta to win or maybe, bet with the over goal option and or both teams score. But even so, I personally also still strongly recognize that Real Madrid still has a very large possibility to be able to rise, because Real Madrid's position must be quickly improved in the Champion League standings.

Liverpool has already exacted revenge on Real Madrid, and now it is time for Atalanta to do the same. This is their best chance to do so because Madrid is not in good shape this season due to player injuries. But Real Madrid will do everything they can to get three points against Atalanta because if they lose, it will be very difficult for Madrid to qualify for the next round, so I am sure Ancelotti will not try to lose the next match, and Atalanta is in good shape, so that game will be very difficult. But I'm still hoping Real Madrid won't aim to lose the Champions League's three games that remains in the group. Let see how the next week champions league will be and see how Manchester City and Real Madrid will do because they are big club but they are not in a good shap this season in both the league and the champions league but am sure they will definitely turn up very soon.

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Quote from: iBaba on November 30, 2024, 01:47:32 PM

Atalanta is on fire right now looking at how strong they are. I've gone to check their previous games at the league and champions league combined and the last 7 games they've gone unbeaten. They will still be meeting with a few clubs before their next Champions league and it does not seem like they're ready to lose any of those future games now including against the Real Madrid.

Those teams they will be meeting before the champions league encounter are teams they can face one hand and secure victory in them. I have been observing them from last season, their performance have improved even after winning the Europa League last season. And with the way they’re playing now, they’re not even considering been eliminated from the champions league, they’re doing better than other big teams and are capable of making it to the next round of the competition much easier than other top teams like Real Madrid.

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On the other hand, Real Madrid lost their last game which was their match between Liverpool at the Champions League and haven't shown that consistency lately. Real Madrid is at the 24th standing of the table while Atalanta is somewhere within the first 10 position in the table standing. Considering all of these, one could have come into the conclusion that Atalanta will beat Real Madrid in the next fixtures between both clubs.

Real Madrid’s situation now in the champions league is very different and you won’t know that they’re the teams that won it last season that are on the position they are now on the standing. Atlanta could also get to win their three points when they meet, but if that happens, it’ll only limit their chances more of making it to the next round of the competition. So I don’t see Atalanta winning them that easily when they meet in the Champions League soon.

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Quote from: KingsDen on November 30, 2024, 01:59:58 PM

The situation of Real Madrid is somewhat unpredictable now. They could just lose the next match who knows and they could win. We are no much reliant on Real Madrid as a big team until they return to good form. And also the majority of their players need to be available for use. Ancelotti is gradually becoming frustrated and more frustration will come when the team don't win and also Mbappe doesn't score.
If Real Madrid doesn't qualify in the first spot, it will be ridiculous especially as they are the defending champions.

For now, honestly, I have doubts about betting on them, unlike usual, every time they play I am sure to bet on them, but for now it is different. It is inseparable from them who have not found their best game, so I personally am still waiting until they can find their best game first. For now, I think it is quite risky to bet on them
But of course we must have different views on this and there may be many people who still believe that Real Madrid can win every match they play. But for me personally, as I said, I am still waiting until they find their best game.

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Quote from: hahay on November 30, 2024, 01:52:59 PM

At least, Atalanta also has a mission to take revenge for its defeat in the UEFA Super Cup and also, so far Atalanta is also still unbeaten in the Champion League. Atalanta has a good record or result even though at first Atalanta was not the favorite team, but after five matches that have been played that Atalanta has three wins and two draws. With Atalanta's good trend so far and Real Madrid's bad trend at this moment, then of course I personally might also choose Atalanta to win or maybe, bet with the over goal option and or both teams score. But even so, I personally also still strongly recognize that Real Madrid still has a very large possibility to be able to rise, because Real Madrid's position must be quickly improved in the Champion League standings.

Atalanta's performance this season has surprised me quite a bit. This team has been playing great since the beginning of the season. Atalanta has continued its winning streak in Serie A. The second place in the Serie A table is now occupied by Atalanta. Atalanta's attack is very strong this season. Atalanta is the highest scorer in Serie A so far.

Atalanta's players have been able to maintain their performance stability in the Champions League as well. Atalanta has not faced defeat in any match in the Champions League. Atalanta is in fifth place in the Champions League table. The team has conceded only 1 goal in 5 matches. I am waiting for the Atalanta vs Madrid match.

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I don't know, I agree that Klopp won EPL and UCL with Liverpool, but it took him a lot of years to do that, he was there for many years and had those two. Arne seems like he could actually win it on his first year, maybe not UCL because while they are great at group stages, they may not be that great when it comes to knockout stages, but at EPL he looks like he may actually win it. So the question is, if he is this good with just this few games, could he keep it up and if he could keep it up then he could pass Klopp with ease, but if he starts to waver and do worse, then he is not going to be as good as Klopp. Thats a comparison, not saying he is already better, just saying what the future might look like.

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Quote from: salad daging on November 28, 2024, 03:47:48 PM

As we agree that Arne Slot brought Liverpool better than Klopp.

The statistics for only 1x conceded and the rest they never lost by continuing to win matches, meaning they will be closer to winning the trophy even though what I say is too early.

I wasn't sure Arne Slot would make it this far, they might have struggled a bit with Liverpool but they didn't, they found the right chemistry and the players seem happy to be under Arne Slot's tutelage.

Arne Slot has impressed all of us but it will be disrespectful to start comparing Arne Slot to Jurgen Klopp at this early stage. I don't think comparing Arne Slot with Klopp’s legacy at Liverpool is ideal. Arne Slot is a good coach and he deserve the accolade for quickly adapting to the pattern of Liverpool and making them to play fantastic football. But he inherited a good squad from Klopp, could he have achieved this much if he took over from a bad coach with a poor team?

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Madrid is in an unsafe position now, maybe they are still in the top 24, but if they lose again in the next match, their chances of getting into the last 16 will be even smaller. The only chance for Madrid to qualify for the last 16 is by participating in the play-off round if Madrid is ranked in the top 24 where the teams ranked 9-24 will compete in the play-off round. I still want to see Madrid go far in the UCL this season.

At the moment, the odds of Liverpool, which are leading with a 100% result and winning a head-to-head meeting with Real, are estimated at 5.50 (Liverpool is the favorite for the title according to bookmakers), and the odds of Real are estimated at 7.50. There's not much difference between the favorite and the one which's at risk of not making the playoffs, is there? I don't think anyone is considering this option seriously, but PSG is under threat.

The situation of Real Madrid is somewhat unpredictable now. They could just lose the next match who knows and they could win. We are no much reliant on Real Madrid as a big team until they return to good form. And also the majority of their players need to be available for use. Ancelotti is gradually becoming frustrated and more frustration will come when the team don't win and also Mbappe doesn't score.
If Real Madrid doesn't qualify in the first spot, it will be ridiculous especially as they are the defending champions.

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This time the situation is very different from the previous match, a number of key Real Madrid players are injured giving Atalanta an advantage. Real Madrid also failed to maintain their performance after their squad limped, so far they have suffered 3 defeats from 5 matches, this situation will be used by Atalanta to continue the negative trend that has not been touched by defeat in the 5 games that have been played.

Playing at Atalanta's home ground which is in a fairly good position will indeed be very difficult for Real Madrid who are currently still experiencing quite concerning conditions due to the many main players who are injured. I also doubt Real Madrid can win the next match, but Ancelotti will definitely try to find a better way so that Real Madrid does not lose again in the next match in the Champions League because Real Madrid's current position is very bad in the Champions League standings.

At least, Atalanta also has a mission to take revenge for its defeat in the UEFA Super Cup and also, so far Atalanta is also still unbeaten in the Champion League. Atalanta has a good record or result even though at first Atalanta was not the favorite team, but after five matches that have been played that Atalanta has three wins and two draws. With Atalanta's good trend so far and Real Madrid's bad trend at this moment, then of course I personally might also choose Atalanta to win or maybe, bet with the over goal option and or both teams score. But even so, I personally also still strongly recognize that Real Madrid still has a very large possibility to be able to rise, because Real Madrid's position must be quickly improved in the Champion League standings.

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Atalanta will be a huge problem for Real Mardid.
As the things stays today Atalanta can easly face any team in the Champions League and have an opportunity to win.

I'm not crazy as today Atalanta can be one of the favorite for the final win.

In 5 months anything can change but TODAY they are not inferior to anyone.

Madrid have a big challenge to get out of the difficult conditions at the moment, the defeat to Liverpool and also Lille has made Madrid currently down in the UCL and I think it will be difficult for them to get up and qualify for the last 16 later, the next game they will be against Atalanta and I think it will be another difficult game for Madrid to get points.

Atalanta is on fire right now looking at how strong they are. I've gone to check their previous games at the league and champions league combined and the last 7 games they've gone unbeaten. They will still be meeting with a few clubs before their next Champions league and it does not seem like they're ready to lose any of those future games now including against the Real Madrid.

On the other hand, Real Madrid lost their last game which was their match between Liverpool at the Champions League and haven't shown that consistency lately. Real Madrid is at the 24th standing of the table while Atalanta is somewhere within the first 10 position in the table standing. Considering all of these, one could have come into the conclusion that Atalanta will beat Real Madrid in the next fixtures between both clubs.

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