Madrid have a big challenge to get out of the difficult conditions at the moment, the defeat to Liverpool and also Lille has made Madrid currently down in the UCL and I think it will be difficult for them to get up and qualify for the last 16 later, the next game they will be against Atalanta and I think it will be another difficult game for Madrid to get points.
Literally at this point I think Madrid needs a win to get them that phycological awakening to get back into for although they recently have some setbacks with their tactical approach and their players form, especially the injuries they have recorded in recent times but they are hopeful about getting back in form as there have been times when they have suffered similar situations and survived it so that alone gives me the confidence they will be able to get pass all of this sooner hopefully but in the mean time they should try not to lose so much so they can still have an edge when they eventually get back on their form and winning streak. 
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It's weird to see Real Madrid so low in the UCL table, it's clearly not their best season, but they still have 3 games left to play, which are:
Atalanta (away)
Salzburg (home)
Brest (away)
Salzburg should be an easy 3 points. Atalanta is really strong this season, currently 2nd in Serie A and 5th in the UCL, it will be hard to earn any points on them. Brest is struggling in Ligue 1 with only 4 wins and 7 losses, they are doing OK in the UCL but that's due to the 3 wins over a relatively weak team, I think Real should be able to win.
I expect Real to finish the league stage with at least 12 points, which would put them in the play-offs.
I feel the same about Real Madrid’s situation, they have declined in this season's Champions League. I am confident that Real Madrid will be able to gather the amount of points needed to qualify for the next round of the competition. They will face a test against Atalanta - a team that has been in fine form in their domestic league and in the Champions League this season as they currently rank 5th in standings. I think Real Madrid would be able to win the match given to their squad depth and their experience in the Champions League. For the rest matches I don't see them as a threat to Real Madrid at all as the match will be an easy win for Madrid irrespective of where the match is been played. Atalanta (away)
Salzburg (home)
Brest (away)
Salzburg should be an easy 3 points. Atalanta is really strong this season, currently 2nd in Serie A and 5th in the UCL, it will be hard to earn any points on them. Brest is struggling in Ligue 1 with only 4 wins and 7 losses, they are doing OK in the UCL but that's due to the 3 wins over a relatively weak team, I think Real should be able to win.
I expect Real to finish the league stage with at least 12 points, which would put them in the play-offs.
Atalanta will be a huge problem for Real Mardid.
As the things stays today Atalanta can easly face any team in the Champions League and have an opportunity to win.
I'm not crazy as today Atalanta can be one of the favorite for the final win.
In 5 months anything can change but TODAY they are not inferior to anyone.
As the things stays today Atalanta can easly face any team in the Champions League and have an opportunity to win.
I'm not crazy as today Atalanta can be one of the favorite for the final win.
In 5 months anything can change but TODAY they are not inferior to anyone.
Considering how strong Atalanta has become since the ending part of last season till now, I can agree with you and they can possibly reach the Champions League finals because due to their surprising performance at the Europa League last season and to also maintain same energy in the Champions League this season means they must be up for something incredible. Right now, I see Liverpool and Atalanta as the most strongest teams in the Champions League and if time is not taking, the both teams can make it to the finals. Though the competition is still high as they still have more matches ahead of them so if Atalanta don't flop along the way, then they will do something dramatic this season. I love the team work and unity amongst the players, hope they continue in their outstanding performance.
Seems like a lot of people see the same thing. I read an article saying that his previous confidence came from feeling superior in PSG, but I'm not sure about that. At the end of the day, only Mbappe and the coaching team can analyze why.
People must understand that Mbappe's loss of form didn't start at Madrid. He's been underperforming for a while now. Whenever I say this people go "How can you say that when he scored over 40 goals last season". I can say that because I watch the matches. Mbappe has not been the same since after the 2022 World Cup. I agree he's worse now, but he's been deteriorating for a while. Anybody who watched him at the last Euro can see how poor he was. At the Euro, he was the exact same player he was at Madrid. He just brought that form to Madrid.
I am one person who believes Mbappe can get back his previous form, but it has to be in a system that plays to his strength, whatever that is. He still has the talent, speed and strength, he just needs a system that can bring out that beast we used to know.
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This time the situation is very different from the previous match, a number of key Real Madrid players are injured giving Atalanta an advantage. Real Madrid also failed to maintain their performance after their squad limped, so far they have suffered 3 defeats from 5 matches, this situation will be used by Atalanta to continue the negative trend that has not been touched by defeat in the 5 games that have been played.
Playing at Atalanta's home ground which is in a fairly good position will indeed be very difficult for Real Madrid who are currently still experiencing quite concerning conditions due to the many main players who are injured. I also doubt Real Madrid can win the next match, but Ancelotti will definitely try to find a better way so that Real Madrid does not lose again in the next match in the Champions League because Real Madrid's current position is very bad in the Champions League standings. 
Madrid is in an unsafe position now, maybe they are still in the top 24, but if they lose again in the next match, their chances of getting into the last 16 will be even smaller. The only chance for Madrid to qualify for the last 16 is by participating in the play-off round if Madrid is ranked in the top 24 where the teams ranked 9-24 will compete in the play-off round. I still want to see Madrid go far in the UCL this season.
The position Madrid have found there self they might find it very hard to be able to escape because the funny thing is that how did Madrid get their self in a position like this, Madrid is better than this, and they use to be the mountain all lifted high and look at were they are now, almost crossing the line, and now that it seems they are improving is now and it is almost late already for them to make up, and I think they are playing against Atlanta and they are suppose to be able to defeat them because seriously if they don't win thay game they should forget baging making it to the next round.
Don't be surprised to see Madrid doing well because they have improved this few days so they might step up their game to secure a better position in the champions league, and even if they make out of round sixteen there is nothing for them this season, so there is no way that things will change easily for them so they should just make it to the round sixteen so that the game will become more intresting.
In group stage, yeah. Atalanta have been doing an amazing work. They don't struggle to score and have a really strong defense at the same time. They are way better than Real Madrid in these statistics as well. 
Look at these odds. The gap is so close... I would even make a fun bet on Atalanta to win at these odds.
Real Madrid is dealing with many injuries including important names such as Vinicius Junior too. If he doesn't play in this one they would struggle in the attacking line just like they did against Liverpool.
When a big team has a problem, everyone will criticize and doubt. But when the team turns things around for the better, everyone will give excessive praise. But I understand the condition because the fact is that Madrid is under pressure.Look at these odds. The gap is so close... I would even make a fun bet on Atalanta to win at these odds.
Real Madrid is dealing with many injuries including important names such as Vinicius Junior too. If he doesn't play in this one they would struggle in the attacking line just like they did against Liverpool.And I think Vinicius will appear in the match and I also believe that Madrid still has a chance to win because Atalanta is not Liverpool. The worst result can happen but it is only a draw and not a defeat.
I will still bet on Madrid to win this match and also consider the draw.
If you look at Real Madrid's current condition, it is very realistic to have doubts as you said besides Atalanta are also in their best form. Real Madrid are currently in a defender crisis and there are no pure strikers who are really capable. So blaming or cursing Mbappe and Ancelotti is also useless, what they have to do now is immediately rise to face the next match with full confidence.
In terms of head-to-head record, Real Madrid has a positive record against Atalanta. Ancelotti's team managed to sweep up all three wins from the previous matches between the two teams. This duel also served as a revenge for Atalanta who were defeated by Real Madrid in the 2024 UEFA Super Cup. Real Madrid, who played with a full squad, managed to emerge as the winner.This time the situation is very different from the previous match, a number of key Real Madrid players are injured giving Atalanta an advantage. Real Madrid also failed to maintain their performance after their squad limped, so far they have suffered 3 defeats from 5 matches, this situation will be used by Atalanta to continue the negative trend that has not been touched by defeat in the 5 games that have been played.
Atalanta must be able to take advantage of Madrid's declining performance. Mbappe may have lost confidence with fans' high expectations of him but his performance is far from expectations.
Of course, it won't be easy for Atalanta, but their performance is quite good. They may be more favored when facing Madrid, especially since they will play at home.
Atalanta may not have any difficulty in this round and can ensure 1 ticket to the next round without going through the play-offs, regardless of the result of the match against Madrid.
Atalanta will be a huge problem for Real Mardid.
As the things stays today Atalanta can easly face any team in the Champions League and have an opportunity to win.
I'm not crazy as today Atalanta can be one of the favorite for the final win.
In 5 months anything can change but TODAY they are not inferior to anyone.
Madrid have a big challenge to get out of the difficult conditions at the moment, the defeat to Liverpool and also Lille has made Madrid currently down in the UCL and I think it will be difficult for them to get up and qualify for the last 16 later, the next game they will be against Atalanta and I think it will be another difficult game for Madrid to get points. As the things stays today Atalanta can easly face any team in the Champions League and have an opportunity to win.
I'm not crazy as today Atalanta can be one of the favorite for the final win.
In 5 months anything can change but TODAY they are not inferior to anyone.
If you look at Real Madrid's current condition, it is very realistic to have doubts as you said besides Atalanta are also in their best form. Real Madrid are currently in a defender crisis and there are no pure strikers who are really capable. So blaming or cursing Mbappe and Ancelotti is also useless, what they have to do now is immediately rise to face the next match with full confidence.
In terms of head-to-head record, Real Madrid has a positive record against Atalanta. Ancelotti's team managed to sweep up all three wins from the previous matches between the two teams. This duel also served as a revenge for Atalanta who were defeated by Real Madrid in the 2024 UEFA Super Cup. Real Madrid, who played with a full squad, managed to emerge as the winner.This time the situation is very different from the previous match, a number of key Real Madrid players are injured giving Atalanta an advantage. Real Madrid also failed to maintain their performance after their squad limped, so far they have suffered 3 defeats from 5 matches, this situation will be used by Atalanta to continue the negative trend that has not been touched by defeat in the 5 games that have been played.
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In group stage, yeah. Atalanta have been doing an amazing work. They don't struggle to score and have a really strong defense at the same time. They are way better than Real Madrid in these statistics as well.
Look at these odds. The gap is so close... I would even make a fun bet on Atalanta to win at these odds.
Real Madrid is dealing with many injuries including important names such as Vinicius Junior too. If he doesn't play in this one they would struggle in the attacking line just like they did against Liverpool.Looking at the odds available, we can interpret that the bookies do not favor either of these two teams. besides considering that both teams have the same odds, this match is quite complicated and difficult for us to predict. in Atalanta's camp, they are advantaged in playing at home plus they have also performed quite impressively in their 5 matches in the Champions League without defeat. in this meeting, Atalanta certainly does not want to lose points to ensure they are safe to advance to the next phase. while in Madrid's camp, their performance with injured players is quite doubtful. although, Madrid is still a team that cannot be underestimated. we know that several of Madrid's core players are still absent due to injury, but it seems that Rodrygo's status has the potential to strengthen Real Madrid's front line in this meeting. at least, Mbappe has a partner if Don Carlo returns to playing two strikers for the front line of his squad. what is certain, Madrid knows the situation will be very unlikely if they lose full points again. in other words, Madrid must win after they were defeated by Liverpool at Anfield. So, this match seems like it will get a lot of attention from football fans, very interesting.
Atalanta will be a huge problem for Real Mardid.
As the things stays today Atalanta can easly face any team in the Champions League and have an opportunity to win.
I'm not crazy as today Atalanta can be one of the favorite for the final win.
In 5 months anything can change but TODAY they are not inferior to anyone.
As the things stays today Atalanta can easly face any team in the Champions League and have an opportunity to win.
I'm not crazy as today Atalanta can be one of the favorite for the final win.
In 5 months anything can change but TODAY they are not inferior to anyone.
In group stage, yeah. Atalanta have been doing an amazing work. They don't struggle to score and have a really strong defense at the same time. They are way better than Real Madrid in these statistics as well.
Look at these odds. The gap is so close... I would even make a fun bet on Atalanta to win at these odds.
Real Madrid is dealing with many injuries including important names such as Vinicius Junior too. If he doesn't play in this one they would struggle in the attacking line just like they did against Liverpool. 
I still believe Madrid will finish in the top 16 regardless of what happened with Mbappe, how far they will go is uncertain though. If Vini and the other players are back they can fight for the semi-finals and more imo.
I doubt Real Madrid can make it to the top 16. They play Atalanta away next and that fixture could determine a lot. They will be without Vini and Camavinga and they will be missed. Atalanta is one of the the teams in Europe in top form so I don't see them losing to Madrid at home.
Madrid will make top 24 that's for sure, but I don't see them in the top 16.
Remember Real Madrid's status as the king of UCL will not be lost even though they lose to Liverpool even though they are currently in the relegation zone and also remember that Real Madrid is a team that always makes a comeback, this is if you remember the season how dramatic they made an unexpected comeback. So I am always optimistic that Real Madrid can qualify for the last 16, I am sure they will immediately rise to win the remaining three matches in the UCL league.
Atalanta will be a huge problem for Real Mardid.
As the things stays today Atalanta can easly face any team in the Champions League and have an opportunity to win.
I'm not crazy as today Atalanta can be one of the favorite for the final win.
In 5 months anything can change but TODAY they are not inferior to anyone.
As the things stays today Atalanta can easly face any team in the Champions League and have an opportunity to win.
I'm not crazy as today Atalanta can be one of the favorite for the final win.
In 5 months anything can change but TODAY they are not inferior to anyone.
I don't know, it seems he is very burdened as a great player, he's like stage fright when competing in big matches. He's like a new player who just took penalty so it's nervous and fails to execute it.
Mbappe does not have good mentality at penalty spot, he is not like Balotelli who has his strong mental instinct at this spot. Many times we saw Mbappe failed at penalty spots but in three latest seasons, he improved his penalty shot skills. It's truly big improvement of Mbappe but sometimes at this spot, Mbappe can fail with weak mentality and high nervous shot.Seems like a lot of people see the same thing. I read an article saying that his previous confidence came from feeling superior in PSG, but I'm not sure about that. At the end of the day, only Mbappe and the coaching team can analyze why. Ancelotti needs to figure out how to bring his best asap if they want to compete in the UCL and La Liga at the same time unless he can magically call Vini and other key players asap.
I wonder that whether Ancelotti wanted to have Mbappe in his squad, because I think he actually imagined of big problems to use Mbappe effectively. He could not ask Perez to refuse Mbappe as a free player, but so far, he struggled to use Mbappe well. Using this player well or not, it will affect Real Madrid performances as well as coach position of Ancelotti.Quote
I still believe Madrid will finish in the top 16 regardless of what happened with Mbappe, how far they will go is uncertain though. If Vini and the other players are back they can fight for the semi-finals and more imo.
Going to semi-finals in Champions League is not easy for any club even Real Madrid, and they can fail before semi finals in any season. Last 10 years with 5 Champions League titles is a golden era for their club but no party can last forever and maybe they will not go far in Champions League this season. 
It's weird to see Real Madrid so low in the UCL table, it's clearly not their best season, but they still have 3 games left to play, which are:
Atalanta (away)
Salzburg (home)
Brest (away)
Salzburg should be an easy 3 points. Atalanta is really strong this season, currently 2nd in Serie A and 5th in the UCL, it will be hard to earn any points on them. Brest is struggling in Ligue 1 with only 4 wins and 7 losses, they are doing OK in the UCL but that's due to the 3 wins over a relatively weak team, I think Real should be able to win.
I expect Real to finish the league stage with at least 12 points, which would put them in the play-offs.
There's nothing like easy point in UCL , UCL brings together best of best under same roof competing with each other to know the best among the best (that's a little bit twisted Atalanta (away)
Salzburg (home)
Brest (away)
Salzburg should be an easy 3 points. Atalanta is really strong this season, currently 2nd in Serie A and 5th in the UCL, it will be hard to earn any points on them. Brest is struggling in Ligue 1 with only 4 wins and 7 losses, they are doing OK in the UCL but that's due to the 3 wins over a relatively weak team, I think Real should be able to win.
I expect Real to finish the league stage with at least 12 points, which would put them in the play-offs.
) which is why it's surprising when some team get beaten attimes, though there are some class of stronger teams ...Realmadrid having it easy with salzburg still depends on their performance ,Atalanta is a hard one just like Liverpool even though they once beat them earlier this season but that was with their full squad, things will be different this time around.
It's weird to see Real Madrid so low in the UCL table, it's clearly not their best season, but they still have 3 games left to play, which are:
Atalanta (away)
Salzburg (home)
Brest (away)
Salzburg should be an easy 3 points. Atalanta is really strong this season, currently 2nd in Serie A and 5th in the UCL, it will be hard to earn any points on them. Brest is struggling in Ligue 1 with only 4 wins and 7 losses, they are doing OK in the UCL but that's due to the 3 wins over a relatively weak team, I think Real should be able to win.
I expect Real to finish the league stage with at least 12 points, which would put them in the play-offs.
Regarding three matches left, Atalanta is most difficult opponent team for Real Madrid because have consistent performance in UEFA Champion League and domestic league match. Atalanta have quit well performance in Champion League keep unbeaten until five matches and success being draw the top premier league team Arsenal on the first game week, but Madrid have advantage lead head to head after success defeating Atalanta on Super Cup final over 2-0 and get confidence for winning the upcoming match. Atalanta (away)
Salzburg (home)
Brest (away)
Salzburg should be an easy 3 points. Atalanta is really strong this season, currently 2nd in Serie A and 5th in the UCL, it will be hard to earn any points on them. Brest is struggling in Ligue 1 with only 4 wins and 7 losses, they are doing OK in the UCL but that's due to the 3 wins over a relatively weak team, I think Real should be able to win.
I expect Real to finish the league stage with at least 12 points, which would put them in the play-offs.
For Salzburg and Brest looks not difficult opponent team for Real Madrid but secure three matches left and have 18 points looks still not comfortable for Madrid directly qualifying to knock out round. Must waiting another team result keep consistent or not but current standings awhile Liverpool seems easily get directly qualify after winning all matches and have 15 points awhile.
It's weird to see Real Madrid so low in the UCL table, it's clearly not their best season, but they still have 3 games left to play, which are:
Atalanta (away)
Salzburg (home)
Brest (away)
Atalanta will be the problem among those three clubs though the last time Real Madrid won Atalanta 2 but that was when Real Madrid was good but this time Atalanta will hit them from were it will pain them, however for Brest being away will certainly loss to Real Madrid and the same thing will happen to Salzburg even with there home, I want to see Mbappe playing well on this three matches. Atalanta (away)
Salzburg (home)
Brest (away)
After the defeat from Liverpool it is clear that at the moment Madrid has a difficult situation in the Champions League , so indeed if Madrid lose the next match against Atalanta of course it will be Madrid worst performance in recent seasons due to early exit from champions league , at the moment Ancelotti has this situation which is very challenging and if he cannot take Madrid through to the next round of course it will be a stain on his career, They are currently in 24th position which is the last position to qualify for the playoffs, so I think even to survive and qualify for the play-off zone will be difficult for them if they lose to Atalanta later, the change in the format of the Champions League is really a nightmare for them at the moment.
After the defeat from Liverpool it is clear that at the moment Madrid has a difficult situation in the Champions League , so indeed if Madrid lose the next match against Atalanta of course it will be Madrid worst performance in recent seasons due to early exit from champions league , at the moment Ancelotti has this situation which is very challenging and if he cannot take Madrid through to the next round of course it will be a stain on his career, They are currently in 24th position which is the last position to qualify for the playoffs, so I think even to survive and qualify for the play-off zone will be difficult for them if they lose to Atalanta later, the change in the format of the Champions League is really a nightmare for them at the moment.
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