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September 12, 2024, 05:51:09 PM

For this upcoming season, who knows whether Real Madrid might find themselves lucky to repeat the same thing since they have Mbappe to strengthen the team formation.

Real Madrid has gotten to the top of this tournament last season and they will love to take the trophy once more. I also think they were deliberate about the bringing of Mbappé who will work hard to deliver his dream club. Remember, Real Madrid is still have Ancelotti as its coach and are not ready to relinquish him anytime within the season and I don't think Ancelotti is also interested in leading the club some more times since he understood the squad and knows how well to bring trophies home. This is also a real challenge to other A-list clubs so we can measure their performances side by side.
The plan to bring Mbappe has been around for a few seasons so now that he is in Madrid it is clear that he could be one of the most backbone players in the future even though for now his performance still needs more adaptation but in the end this is still a plus for Madrid.

In addition, talking about Ancelotti is a little difficult where even though the tactics he uses are actually quite simple but in the end he can always bring success that can not even be expected especially the Champions League is not new because he is a sensational coach here with the most trophies and is very suitable for Madrid which they are also a club that has the most trophies too.
But at the end of the day, the competition is obviously still very tough for Madrid and we have to see if the change from the group stage to the league stage will have an impact on the big club or not in terms of performance.
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September 12, 2024, 05:49:35 PM

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For this upcoming season, who knows whether Real Madrid might find themselves lucky to repeat the same thing since they have Mbappe to strengthen the team formation.

It may or may not  be. Mbappe haven't won the Champions league despite how far he has come in his career so winning their UCL with his dream club, Madrid will be on top of his priority list for this 2024/2025 season. But unlike everyone else that have rushed to conclude that Madrid would win, I think they wouldn't and will be knocked out in one of the knockout stages — my bias will remain this way unless Madrid's performance turns around in the near future because right now, it ain't shit.

So who's on my list to win it? Can't say but there are good options especially teams like City and probably Bayern or Leverkusen + Liverpool.
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September 12, 2024, 05:45:55 PM

Atalanta last season could indeed be a strong challenger. But I don't think Atalanta can expect too much this season. And so does AC Milan. Milan started the season quite badly with their new coach, Fonseca. So I don't think many people will want to bet on them this season. Because that would be very risky. So I think the real challenges for Real Madrid are only Dortmund and Liverpool. Dortmund surprised us all last season and it is not impossible that this season they will also make the same surprise. Meanwhile, Liverpool looks as strong as last season. Arne Slot managed to maintain the strength established by Klopp at Liverpool. With a slight change in strategy, I think Liverpool could become the biggest threat to Real Madrid. But of course I will still favor Real Madrid when it comes to all matches in the UCL.
I guess it's like that, Atalanta is not as strong as last season anymore. Atalanta's performance in Serie A can be a benchmark for now, especially for analyzing their chances in the Champions League. I don't care if Atalanta wins or loses, but they could be the team that surprises everyone
Atalanta cannot surprise anyone this season in the champions league because it is not Europa and UCL has so many strong teams that will send Atalanta packing from the league.

I don't see Atalanta going far in UCL even though they are the winner of Europa cup last season because with their current performance they stand no chance of survival. It will be good to see Atalanta back go their best form.
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September 12, 2024, 05:45:27 PM
Real Madrid has gotten to the top of this tournament last season and they will love to take the trophy once more. I also think they were deliberate about the bringing of Mbappé who will work hard to deliver his dream club. Remember, Real Madrid is still have Ancelotti as its coach and are not ready to relinquish him anytime within the season and I don't think Ancelotti is also interested in leading the club some more times since he understood the squad and knows how well to bring trophies home. This is also a real challenge to other A-list clubs so we can measure their performances side by side.

Real Madrid doesn't need Mbappe to win the champions league, they have proven that they didn't need some of their top players to do it. They won without Ronaldo being on the team therefore Mbappe is nothing to them. I have a feeling they just needed mbappe to sell the jersey and prevent other clubs from having him and causing an obstacle to their title challenge. Mbappe needs Real Madrid to take his career to the next level but Real Madrid can always do fine without him and the early the top stars at the club gets to know this fact, the better it'll be for their career to know when to move on and not play for a club all their life that don't value their players.
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September 12, 2024, 05:20:52 PM

Atalanta last season could indeed be a strong challenger. But I don't think Atalanta can expect too much this season. And so does AC Milan. Milan started the season quite badly with their new coach, Fonseca. So I don't think many people will want to bet on them this season. Because that would be very risky. So I think the real challenges for Real Madrid are only Dortmund and Liverpool. Dortmund surprised us all last season and it is not impossible that this season they will also make the same surprise. Meanwhile, Liverpool looks as strong as last season. Arne Slot managed to maintain the strength established by Klopp at Liverpool. With a slight change in strategy, I think Liverpool could become the biggest threat to Real Madrid. But of course I will still favor Real Madrid when it comes to all matches in the UCL.
I guess it's like that, Atalanta is not as strong as last season anymore. Atalanta's performance in Serie A can be a benchmark for now, especially for analyzing their chances in the Champions League. I don't care if Atalanta wins or loses, but they could be the team that surprises everyone.

Inter, Milan and Juventus tend to be more convincing to qualify for the round of 16 this season as representatives of Serie A, while I doubt Atalanta. Of course not to underestimate Atalanta, but I haven't been able to find a good performance from them so far. Atalanta have had a 2-game losing streak in 3 Serie A matches, so they can really be doubted.
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September 12, 2024, 05:16:10 PM
Winning this game is a thing of high probability for Manchester City but not like the finals where Manchester City won because in that game it was like a must for them to win since it was supposed to determine if they will be the champions or they are going to be the runner u so guardian at that point will literally do everything to keep the citizen ahead but in this game there's a difference tho the same champions league spirit but this time Manchester City and inter Milan are going to kick off the champions league for the season tho it's not a primary determinant to anything but it's surely going to count so a draw wouldn't do much harm, invariably I'm saying if you get to see the game end a draw, just know it's not supposed to be a surprise as both teams doesn't have so much to look up to from this game.
Since UEFA Champion League season 2024/25 adopt new format, all matches are the final match for participants teams and must secure three points if won't loss opportunity dropped out from top eight standings position are directly get to knock out round place.
I think Manchester City have target for winning their first match against Inter Milan and become the most interested match for the 1 of 8 matches in Champion League phase league round.

Manchester City have lead head to head against Inter Milan after their victory on UEFA Champion League final match season 2022/23, but could be motivate for Inter Milan revenge their defeated from Manchester City and get three important away points how to secure the top eight position place. Not only have secure three points, but new format must scoring as many possibility goals if later have any teams get the same points for leading the top eight position place.
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September 12, 2024, 04:58:23 PM

For this upcoming season, who knows whether Real Madrid might find themselves lucky to repeat the same thing since they have Mbappe to strengthen the team formation.

Real Madrid has gotten to the top of this tournament last season and they will love to take the trophy once more. I also think they were deliberate about the bringing of Mbappé who will work hard to deliver his dream club. Remember, Real Madrid is still have Ancelotti as its coach and are not ready to relinquish him anytime within the season and I don't think Ancelotti is also interested in leading the club some more times since he understood the squad and knows how well to bring trophies home. This is also a real challenge to other A-list clubs so we can measure their performances side by side.
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September 12, 2024, 04:56:57 PM
Atalanta last season could indeed be a strong challenger. But I don't think Atalanta can expect too much this season. And so does AC Milan. Milan started the season quite badly with their new coach, Fonseca. So I don't think many people will want to bet on them this season. Because that would be very risky. So I think the real challenges for Real Madrid are only Dortmund and Liverpool. Dortmund surprised us all last season and it is not impossible that this season they will also make the same surprise. Meanwhile, Liverpool looks as strong as last season. Arne Slot managed to maintain the strength established by Klopp at Liverpool. With a slight change in strategy, I think Liverpool could become the biggest threat to Real Madrid. But of course I will still favor Real Madrid when it comes to all matches in the UCL.
AC Milan's performance at the beginning of this season was indeed quite bad and there was no good improvement with their new coach. However, if the situation can be reversed if they appear stunning in the Champions League, of course AC Milan will be able to dispel all doubts about their performance. The opponents faced by AC Milan are quite strong in the Champions League this season, especially AC Milan will face Liverpool, where the chances in terms of strength or performance of the two teams are of course Liverpool is far favored.

If you look at Real Madrid, of course they are very strong compared to other teams, but the performance of Liverpool, Dortmund must of course be watched out for by Real Madrid because these two teams have shown good development so far. Liverpool under the coaching of Arne Slot is running as expected because they are increasingly finding their best identity in the domestic league. Yes, I hope they can put a lot of pressure on other big teams, especially Real Madrid.
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September 12, 2024, 04:52:36 PM
As most of us already know, the new CL league phase will see the top 8 teams qualify automatically and the other teams from 9th-24th will compete in a knockout play-off round to determine the other 8 teams that will qualify, before i continue i'd like to add that i think this new format sucks, but it is what it is and we have no choice but to enjoy it.

Now to my question, which teams do you think will make up the 8 that will qualify automatically, in no particular order. I'd go first: City, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Liverpool, Arsenal, Barcelona, Atletico Madrid and PSG.
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September 12, 2024, 04:51:26 PM
City definitely has a high chance of winning against Inter, not saying that Inter is a bad team, and not even saying that there is no chance that they would not win, of course there is a small chance that Inter could win, but all the arrows are pointed at City here, and I think they will get it. What I believe is that we are going to see this changing more and more, we should consider this to be something that will not be that much of a big deal, it will change a lot.

I personally believe that the best thing to do for City is to keep going with whatever they have and just try to dominate the game. As long as they defend Martinez well enough, they should be fine not getting scored on, so it's all about beating that famous Italian defense, which is very tough but they can do it. I can see a draw for this game as well, it's very likely, it's either a city win or a draw if you ask me. Betting on City to win would be an easy bet though, I can see that.
Looking at the side of Manchester City and Inter Milan, we would indeed prefer Man City as the favorite to win this match, even though Inter Milan did bring home the scudetto last season, but when facing Guardiola's squad I don't think they are that tough to stop Haaland who is currently in his best condition.

Maybe a subjective view of the Manchester City and Inter Milan match, but I don't see any chance of a draw in this match, Man City has a greater potential for victory, this is also nothing more than an assessment of the team that meets my instincts. Grin
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September 12, 2024, 04:38:09 PM

Man City vs Inter

Manchester City vs Inter Milan will meet in the first match in the Champions League on Thursday, this is one of the matches that caught my attention because these two clubs are Champions League finalists in the 2022/23 season and Manchester City who won the Champions League and Inter Milan became runners up and they will meet earlier this season.
Manchester City will certainly be more favored in this match because Man City is in its best form.

The bookies give lower odds to Man City because we can already predict that Man City will be more favored to win against Inter Milan, oh yes for the match to be held at the Etihad stadium betting on Man City's victory is the right choice.

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Winning this game is a thing of high probability for Manchester City but not like the finals where Manchester City won because in that game it was like a must for them to win since it was supposed to determine if they will be the champions or they are going to be the runner u so guardian at that point will literally do everything to keep the citizen ahead but in this game there's a difference tho the same champions league spirit but this time Manchester City and inter Milan are going to kick off the champions league for the season tho it's not a primary determinant to anything but it's surely going to count so a draw wouldn't do much harm, invariably I'm saying if you get to see the game end a draw, just know it's not supposed to be a surprise as both teams doesn't have so much to look up to from this game.

Yea, you have a point because I also have that feeling that the game might end up in a draw because it is their first game in the season and they will be fully ready to put in more effort than expected. This will determine the both teams to end the game in a draw, but on the other hand, many will be expecting Manchester City to win the game because, based on some considerations, they are more fit than Inter Milan. because if not for anything, they are playing a home game, and that only is enough to make Manchester City willing to win the game and get more points so that they will be seen at the top of the table from the beginning of the season to the end, even though we all know it will be somehow hard for them to win the trophy this season.
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September 12, 2024, 04:10:42 PM
Real Madrid definitely has an easy group stage, they are not facing any big teams, Dortmund shouldn't be that hard for them, and maybe Liverpool is the hardest but that's about it, rest seems even easier. Of course when you are one of the biggest teams in the world, it becomes very tough for you to face any team that is at least as good. I would say maybe PSG, Bayern, City are the only ones we can say that are on their level, and even they are questionable in most seasons as well, aside from those teams Real is the best team and they will keep on winning.

There is a reason why they keep winning the UCL, if they weren't this good, they wouldn't be able to do it so often. So when you are that good, teams that are not group stage material becomes boring games that doesn't feel like it's as good as even some league games.

Like Real will play against Brest, or Stuttgart, or Lille, or Salzburg, all of these teams feel like it's nothing compared to who they will end up playing normally at later stages. In any case, they have at least eight instead of six and that should be something to cheer for them, it would definitely be a good situation for them because they would make some more money.
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September 12, 2024, 03:56:59 PM
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Even the dealers gave the biggest opportunity for Manchester City to be the champion in the Champions League this season, in terms of Real Madrid even in second place after Manchester City. This became something natural because at their previous meetings Manchester City also defeated Inter Milan in the final.
I agreed with you, even though the dealer sided with Manchester City, it did not mean they would easily defeat Inter Milan. Inter Milan is one of the good teams, last season they also won the championship in Serie A. This was the meeting of the two teams that won their local league. Of course what we hope is that they will be able to present a very interesting game for us to enjoy for 90 minutes in normal time.

The fact that Manchester City has the best odds here to win the Champions League is not surprising. I have checked it and it is around 3.8, which I think is neither too high nor too low. But it's still damn risky to go for it as the numbers speak for themselves. Manchester City is trying hard to win it for over a decade now and they were only able to win it once. But some of the odds are quite interesting. Arsenal for example is about 9.0 while Bayern Munich is around 13.0. I am not convinced whether there is any justification for that difference. I think Arsenal against Bayern Munich in the final rounds of the Champions League would be a 50:50 game.

If not that Real Madrid have dominated the champions league such that every other team is hardly seen in the picture of having the possibility to win the champions game, Manchester City is one club that is equal to the capacity of Real Madrid both in their squad and performance but since they haven't really won the title more than once makes it difficult to just put them at the front of every other team but the odd they are giving by bookmakers is a very fair odd for a team like Manchester City because if Real Madrid drops out of winning the league, the other team we can think of taking over is Manchester City based on current performance but if it's by history then Liverpool would have been considered.
             Even though Arsenal has lesser odds than Bayern Munich but I still feel that Bayern Munich is better than Arsenal in the champions league and they proved it last season even though the strength of the both teams looks a bit equal but when we compare their performance in the champions league last season, Bayern Munich is stronger but let's see how it goes again this season if Arsenal can realize themselves and do more better than they did last season.
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September 12, 2024, 03:54:37 PM
City definitely has a high chance of winning against Inter, not saying that Inter is a bad team, and not even saying that there is no chance that they would not win, of course there is a small chance that Inter could win, but all the arrows are pointed at City here, and I think they will get it. What I believe is that we are going to see this changing more and more, we should consider this to be something that will not be that much of a big deal, it will change a lot.

I personally believe that the best thing to do for City is to keep going with whatever they have and just try to dominate the game. As long as they defend Martinez well enough, they should be fine not getting scored on, so it's all about beating that famous Italian defense, which is very tough but they can do it. I can see a draw for this game as well, it's very likely, it's either a city win or a draw if you ask me. Betting on City to win would be an easy bet though, I can see that.
Inter Milan isn't going to be an easy opponent side for Manchester City in this clash , yes Manchester seem better, but if we consider Inter Milans performance last season at Italian serie A league side , you'll get to know that this is going to be a 50/50 chance kind of game which will be open for hmboth side , will be a game of who utilizes they vey best opportunity they got to score.
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September 12, 2024, 03:54:02 PM
If Milan performance does not improve soon, I am more confident that Liverpool will win the match. If you believe in Paulo Fonseca who will not let Milan end up losing, but unfortunately the coach does not have much experience in managing a big team in the UCL. Meanwhile, from H2H, Liverpool is much more favored.
Skipping this match not to bet, I don't think I will do it. Because I believe Liverpool has a great chance to embarrass Milan at home. Skipping odds @1.93 is very detrimental.
Although I'd say Liverpool is more likely to win, if I had to bet I would probably go for a double-chance bet on Milan or a draw. Milan was off to a bad start to the league season, but there's a chance they'll wake up on time. They're not a bad team overall. For what it's worth, they defeated Real Madrid, Barcelona and Man City in the pre-season friendlies.
It's worth to wait on how they perform against Venezia this weekend, they're a big favourite, so it'll be a good chance for them to unblock.
I don't think pre-season matches will be used as a reference for the actual match, but Milan in Serie A are still doing badly so far, so I'm still not sure Milan will win at home, we know Liverpool are currently on fire in their own league so this is a reference I will support Liverpool rather than Milan.

With you saying it could be Milan waking up at the right time it might happen in the game because this is a match of prestige that is impossible for them to play badly, but I just look at the statistics now from the previous few matches then Liverpool are much better that I see.
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September 12, 2024, 03:48:21 PM
City definitely has a high chance of winning against Inter, not saying that Inter is a bad team, and not even saying that there is no chance that they would not win, of course there is a small chance that Inter could win, but all the arrows are pointed at City here, and I think they will get it. What I believe is that we are going to see this changing more and more, we should consider this to be something that will not be that much of a big deal, it will change a lot.

I personally believe that the best thing to do for City is to keep going with whatever they have and just try to dominate the game. As long as they defend Martinez well enough, they should be fine not getting scored on, so it's all about beating that famous Italian defense, which is very tough but they can do it. I can see a draw for this game as well, it's very likely, it's either a city win or a draw if you ask me. Betting on City to win would be an easy bet though, I can see that.
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September 12, 2024, 03:47:49 PM
If Milan performance does not improve soon, I am more confident that Liverpool will win the match. If you believe in Paulo Fonseca who will not let Milan end up losing, but unfortunately the coach does not have much experience in managing a big team in the UCL. Meanwhile, from H2H, Liverpool is much more favored.
Skipping this match not to bet, I don't think I will do it. Because I believe Liverpool has a great chance to embarrass Milan at home. Skipping odds @1.93 is very detrimental.

Although I'd say Liverpool is more likely to win, if I had to bet I would probably go for a double-chance bet on Milan or a draw. Milan was off to a bad start to the league season, but there's a chance they'll wake up on time. They're not a bad team overall. For what it's worth, they defeated Real Madrid, Barcelona and Man City in the pre-season friendlies.
It's worth to wait on how they perform against Venezia this weekend, they're a big favourite, so it'll be a good chance for them to unblock.
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September 12, 2024, 03:00:44 PM
Liverpool performance has improved rapidly at the start of this season, while Milan still looks to be struggling because they have not found their best form. Liverpool are of course the favourites to win this game, but Milan are also a very experienced team in the Champions League. Paulo Fonseca will not let this important match end in disappointment, he will try to motivate his players to perform optimally. A draw in the match is fair for both teams, skipping the bet on this match might be better as Milan might cause a surprise in UCL.
If Milan performance does not improve soon, I am more confident that Liverpool will win the match. If you believe in Paulo Fonseca who will not let Milan end up losing, but unfortunately the coach does not have much experience in managing a big team in the UCL. Meanwhile, from H2H, Liverpool is much more favored.
Skipping this match not to bet, I don't think I will do it. Because I believe Liverpool has a great chance to embarrass Milan at home. Skipping odds @1.93 is very detrimental.
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September 12, 2024, 02:58:59 PM
I also think that with the potential of players like the one in Real Madrid it is impossible to lose in a round that is not of value, they will definitely get their position for the better, only with the performance like now it does make many people pessimistic with their potential whether they can qualify further Or not, but in terms of my observations, they will be quite capable even more than the semi -finals.

They only need some time to adjust their strength again.

Real Madrid's potential is inherent, and they have always been fortunate in terms of players, but people continue to compare them to Barcelona, who are still recovering. Even in the previous season's champions league, they did not anticipate anything from Barcelona because they were preoccupied with coping with Girona now, however, just because they have managed to accumulate 12 points, they feel comfortable and will be able to play in the champions league in the same manner as they play in the la Liga. And just even look at the kind of players that Real Madrid have, they are not even comparable in the la liga but when it comes to the champions league then they don't have a choice than to be scared of Manchester City, I was wishing for us to meet next season but we won't be doing that anymore this season everything is still hot and we are also in preparation with Real Madrid and this season we are going to be seen who is going to be the best because they feel they are the king of champions league but they will still be an easy defeat for us this season if we are eventually meet then their won't be any bragging that will be coming from them even if I love them.

You must be very confident with the champion mentality of Real Madrid and also the players they have I think you see from all the potential and think much longer about Real Madrid, it is not ideal when compared to the temporary time and only a few matches have just started in La Liga, many people have concluded too far to other major leagues that Real Madrid is involved in.
In the Champions League, the most realized strength is much more balanced is Manchester City I have no doubt that City is indeed a big threat, but I think you need to consider Liverpool, because in my opinion Liverpool also has the potential this season to become one of the rivals that can be counted on in the championship competition.
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September 12, 2024, 01:44:05 PM
Seriously, we don't know how lucky Real Madrid will find themselves in lifting the Champions League this upcoming season. It's hard to say whether they continue their winning streak of lifting the Champions League trophy again, as they have been known for. For the record, Real Madrid has been known for lifting the champions consistently; it all started in 2013/2014, till date; it was only in 2019/2020 that Chelsea denied them the lifting of the Champions League trophy, but every other season, they did that.

For this upcoming season, who knows whether Real Madrid might find themselves lucky to repeat the same thing since they have Mbappe to strengthen the team formation.

Real Madrid fans have been expecting very good performances from them in all the competitions they are participating in. We can’t say yet that their performances will give them the trophy this season because, to me, what people are expecting from Real Madrid is that we have not seen it in La Liga. I think they are still struggling, and also some of their players are injured. However, let's watch and see how it will be for them in the Champions League competition. Maybe their performance will be something different from La Liga performance.

As for Mbappe, I think he is still yet to show what people are expecting from him. He is still studying the pattern of the season and also the competition, but I believe he will do something different in the Champions League too. Let’s watch and see how it goes. 
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