UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season - page 63.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on September 12, 2024, 03:47:49 PM

Although I'd say Liverpool is more likely to win, if I had to bet I would probably go for a double-chance bet on Milan or a draw. Milan was off to a bad start to the league season, but there's a chance they'll wake up on time. They're not a bad team overall. For what it's worth, they defeated Real Madrid, Barcelona and Man City in the pre-season friendlies.
It's worth to wait on how they perform against Venezia this weekend, they're a big favourite, so it'll be a good chance for them to unblock.

Betting on double chance is the safest option with odds @1.9, it is very equivalent to the risk you take. It might make sense to choose this option because Milan playing at home gives a more prepared mentality to face the challenge against Liverpool. But on the one hand Liverpool is also one of the experienced teams that is always ready to face the challenge even though they have to play away. And Liverpool also beat Milan more often in matches a few seasons ago in the UCL.
I might choose a single bet on this match because Milan vs Liverpool is a very interesting match but a little difficult to predict.

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I don't see Atalanta going far in UCL even though they are the winner of Europa cup last season because with their current performance they stand no chance of survival. It will be good to see Atalanta back go their best form.

Atalanta have also started this season poorly, they lost to Real Madrid in the UEFA Super Cup and out of three games played in the Italian Seria A thus far this season, they have won just one and lost two, losing 4-0 to Inter Milan a few weeks ago. There is definitely no chance for Atalanta to go far in the champions league this season, particularly with this new CL league phase format that is much more competitive.

Regarding the match between Atalanta vs Real Madrid, I am not surprised if Atalanta loses to Real Madrid in the UEFA Super Cup because Real Madrid is superior in any case. I don't expect much from Atalanta in the Champions League competition, being able to advance to the last 16 is already a good result, but Atalanta has to overcome many difficult obstacles facing other strong clubs and the strength of these clubs is different from the clubs that Atalanta faced last season in the Europa League.

And in the first match later, Atalanta will face one of the strong clubs in the Premier League, Arsenal, last season they were able to eliminate Liverpool in the Europa League but it seems that this season is different, Atalanta's performance tends to decline.
For the odds, Atalanta is not too favored by bookies even though they are playing at home.

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Quote from: Jewan420 on September 12, 2024, 11:47:26 PM

But did Kylian Mbappe cut ties with his old club PSG in pursuit of the Champions Trophy?

Kylian Mbappe did. It seemed to me he felt it's time for him to make a move to a club that would help him to pursue the Champions League trophy. He would never get it if he stayed there. And he did it right by moving to Real Madrid.
He has zero chance to win UCL on his old club. That's why he moved to Real Madrid. And he got his first trophy with Real Madrid on his debut.

Mbappe left PSG originally to win the Champions League title. In the last few seasons PSG tried their best to win the Champions League title. But in every season they failed. Despite spending a lot of money, PSG could not succeed. Mbappe has performed well every season, yet failed to win the Champions League title.

Mbappe came to Real Madrid to win the Champions League title. This club is the most experienced on the Champions League platform. And almost every season we see Champions League dominance by Real Madrid.

Real Madrid have not been able to get back into good form so far this season. Mbappe is yet to adapt to the team. At the same time many players in the squad have faced injuries. So it is slowly becoming more and more difficult for Madrid to do well in the Champions League this season.

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Quote from: Jewan420 on September 12, 2024, 11:47:26 PM

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So far, it seems that the court tends to recommend Mbappe to find an agreement with PSG, and it's an signal that Mbappe can not win this lawsuit if he continues.

Why Kylian Mbappe left his old club PSG is unknown to me. I tried searching for it but failed to find it. I was kind of shocked by his decision. Because there was a bright future for Kylian Mbappe at PSG which can be deduced from the old stats. If the future cannot be determined by looking at past statistics. I heard from various media that PSG club was not willing to let go of former World Cup winner Kylian Mbappe. Kylian Mbappe left PSG on his own, but the reason is unknown to me. Kylian Mbappe was having a good time at PSG, the fans loved and supported him a lot. His performance in PSG was also great. But as a team they did not perform very well, as a result they won other tournaments but never won the Champions Trophy.

It needs a very long time just to explain how Mbappé decided to leave PSG instead of staying there. The simple reason is that he demands a new challenge in the new league. He gets bored staying at PSG, and he decides to join Real Madrid.

Also, his move to Real Madrid helped his career. It allowed him to pursue bigger goals than at PSG.

Quote from: Jewan420 on September 12, 2024, 11:47:26 PM

But did Kylian Mbappe cut ties with his old club PSG in pursuit of the Champions Trophy?

Kylian Mbappe did. It seemed to me he felt it's time for him to make a move to a club that would help him to pursue the Champions League trophy. He would never get it if he stayed there. And he did it right by moving to Real Madrid.

He has zero chance to win UCL on his old club. That's why he moved to Real Madrid. And he got his first trophy with Real Madrid on his debut.

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Quote from: BlackBoss_ on September 12, 2024, 09:55:12 PM

So far, it seems that the court tends to recommend Mbappe to find an agreement with PSG, and it's an signal that Mbappe can not win this lawsuit if he continues.

Why Kylian Mbappe left his old club PSG is unknown to me. I tried searching for it but failed to find it. I was kind of shocked by his decision. Because there was a bright future for Kylian Mbappe at PSG which can be deduced from the old stats. If the future cannot be determined by looking at past statistics. I heard from various media that PSG club was not willing to let go of former World Cup winner Kylian Mbappe. Kylian Mbappe left PSG on his own, but the reason is unknown to me. Kylian Mbappe was having a good time at PSG, the fans loved and supported him a lot. His performance in PSG was also great. But as a team they did not perform very well, as a result they won other tournaments but never won the Champions Trophy. But did Kylian Mbappe cut ties with his old club PSG in pursuit of the Champions Trophy?

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Quote from: BlackBoss_ on September 12, 2024, 09:55:12 PM

Mbappe was not happy in PSG recent seasons and PSG gave him good offers and promises, together with contracts, to keep him in their club season by season. At the end, their working relationship broke and Mbappe moved to Real Madrid as a free agent while PSG got no money from a transfer of one of brightest and most valuable super star players. They had many reasons to feel disappointed about it but about a contract between Mbappe and PSG, only their lawyers have enough information to say what party is wrong and will fail in the court.

So far, it seems that the court tends to recommend Mbappe to find an agreement with PSG, and it's an signal that Mbappe can not win this lawsuit if he continues.

Paris Saint-Germain missed heavily out on one of the world's current best players in the European football. Mbappe have been banging goals for Paris Saint-Germain with accolades received in full. Mbappe was seen as a demi-god in Paris following his consistent stellar performance in league games for PSG, he's always playing like a professional and he do delivers when all hope relied on him. Consequently following up the current case filed against PSG, that's not relevant simply because PSG failed woefully to keep part of contract with Kylian Mbappe. We totally get it now that Kylian Mbappe is not in good terms with his former club after broken relationships with the board following his shocking move to Real Madrid. Did the Frenchman made a good choice to exits Parc des Princes stadium?

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Quote from: joniboini on September 12, 2024, 09:41:38 PM

He also has an ongoing legal battle with PSG over his wages. I don't think it affects his performance on the field for Madrid though, whether they are playing in the Champions League or not. I took a quick look at his stats and it seems like the number is more or less the same over the least 3-4 seasons, so I'm not sure if his form is getting worse or we're over-scrutinizing him because he made a big move to Madrid. Granted he moves to a different league with different opponents, so it's hard to conclude anything from the numbers. I'm pretty sure he wants to win the UCL though, whether that hinders his goalscoring ability or not is unknown for now.

Mbappe was not happy in PSG recent seasons and PSG gave him good offers and promises, together with contracts, to keep him in their club season by season. At the end, their working relationship broke and Mbappe moved to Real Madrid as a free agent while PSG got no money from a transfer of one of brightest and most valuable super star players. They had many reasons to feel disappointed about it but about a contract between Mbappe and PSG, only their lawyers have enough information to say what party is wrong and will fail in the court.

So far, it seems that the court tends to recommend Mbappe to find an agreement with PSG, and it's an signal that Mbappe can not win this lawsuit if he continues.

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Quote from: promise444c5 on September 12, 2024, 08:13:49 PM

My wish to Mbappe is Good Luck, I hope he didn't just make a right move at the wrong time because the three straight performance is out of it and fans keep demanding very high expectations from him which is why it's seems like he isn't doing enough, though his performance also dropped generally before he even made a move to RM.

He also has an ongoing legal battle with PSG over his wages. I don't think it affects his performance on the field for Madrid though, whether they are playing in the Champions League or not. I took a quick look at his stats and it seems like the number is more or less the same over the least 3-4 seasons, so I'm not sure if his form is getting worse or we're over-scrutinizing him because he made a big move to Madrid. Granted he moves to a different league with different opponents, so it's hard to conclude anything from the numbers. I'm pretty sure he wants to win the UCL though, whether that hinders his goalscoring ability or not is unknown for now.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on September 12, 2024, 05:49:35 PM

It may or may not be. Mbappe haven't won the Champions league despite how far he has come in his career so winning their UCL with his dream club, Madrid will be on top of his priority list for this 2024/2025 season. But unlike everyone else that have rushed to conclude that Madrid would win, I think they wouldn't and will be knocked out in one of the knockout stages — my bias will remain this way unless Madrid's performance turns around in the near future because right now, it ain't shit.

So who's on my list to win it? Can't say but there are good options especially teams like City and probably Bayern or Leverkusen + Liverpool.

My wish to Mbappe is Good Luck, I hope he didn't just make a right move at the wrong time because the three straight performance is out of it and fans keep demanding very high expectations from him which is why it's seems like he isn't doing enough, though his performance also dropped generally before he even made a move to RM.
At the same time I will support your specu... if they continue like this they might not even make it through the group stage and even if they do, they just gonna get knocked out at the next stage, imo I still think Beryern is gonna perform better this time around or we could just get surprised with the new format.

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Quote from: GiftedMAN on September 12, 2024, 06:56:38 PM

Real Madrid team did not just get to the top of the Champions League competition last season they defeated Dortmund to win the competition last season but coming to this seasons Champions League competition, it is still very early to know if they are going to be the favorite in the champions League because right now they are still trying to make their new signing Mbappe to adapt to his position in the team as they are still trying to get use to the current formation of the team.

The extensive squad has been strengthened since Mbappe joined the team this new season. But this season, Mbappe is not yet ready to go to the right performance because he has to adapt more. He has been performing with the Real Madrid team for only a few days, winning most of the few matches he has played. So I think the trophy will be in favor of Real Madrid team in this new season, because I don't support any other team as strong as Real Madrid team. Manchester City they are preparing to beat Real Madrid team, so Real Madrid team is full of most experienced players in attacking department.

Quote from: GiftedMAN on September 12, 2024, 06:56:38 PM

There are so many other clubs aside Real Madrid who is ready to defeat Real Madrid this time, teams like Manchester City are also warming up for the tournament I don't think the trophy is going to Spain this season.

This new season's trophy will be in the hands of the Real Madrid team, because they will not get the chance in Spain this time. Spain took the trophy last season, no other team could keep the trophy from Spain no matter how hard they tried. So this time no other team will have any chance to take this club with Real Madrid team.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on September 12, 2024, 03:54:37 PM

Inter Milan isn't going to be an easy opponent side for Manchester City in this clash , yes Manchester seem better, but if we consider Inter Milans performance last season at Italian serie A league side , you'll get to know that this is going to be a 50/50 chance kind of game which will be open for hoth side , will be a game of who utilizes they vey best opportunity to score.

I would really like Inter Milan to beat them because City is one of the best teams in the PL, although in the UCL it is a different story, personally I support the Italian team, I think City is a great team but I'm not a fan of that team, Pep has always been in teams that I haven't liked, for example Barcelona, lol, it's something I don't know why he always goes to the opposite clubs of mine, that's why I'm also rooting for Inter, besides I would like to see how far they could go this time, in Serie A I think they can win again.

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Quote from: iBaba on September 12, 2024, 04:58:23 PM

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For this upcoming season, who knows whether Real Madrid might find themselves lucky to repeat the same thing since they have Mbappe to strengthen the team formation.

Real Madrid has gotten to the top of this tournament last season and they will love to take the trophy once more. I also think they were deliberate about the bringing of Mbappé who will work hard to deliver his dream club. Remember, Real Madrid is still have Ancelotti as its coach and are not ready to relinquish him anytime within the season and I don't think Ancelotti is also interested in leading the club some more times since he understood the squad and knows how well to bring trophies home. This is also a real challenge to other A-list clubs so we can measure their performances side by side.

Real Madrid team did not just get to the top of the Champions League competition last season they defeated Dortmund to win the competition last season but coming to this seasons Champions League competition, it is still very early to know if they are going to be the favorite in the champions League because right now they are still trying to make their new signing Mbappe to adapt to his position in the team as they are still trying to get use to the current formation of the team.

There are so many other clubs aside Real Madrid who is ready to defeat Real Madrid this time, teams like Manchester City are also warming up for the tournament I don't think the trophy is going to Spain this season.

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Quote from: Frankolala on September 12, 2024, 05:45:55 PM

I don't see Atalanta going far in UCL even though they are the winner of Europa cup last season because with their current performance they stand no chance of survival. It will be good to see Atalanta back go their best form.

Atalanta have also started this season poorly, they lost to Real Madrid in the UEFA Super Cup and out of three games played in the Italian Seria A thus far this season, they have won just one and lost two, losing 4-0 to Inter Milan a few weeks ago. There is definitely no chance for Atalanta to go far in the champions league this season, particularly with this new CL league phase format that is much more competitive.

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Quote from: Marykeller on September 12, 2024, 01:26:33 PM

For this upcoming season, who knows whether Real Madrid might find themselves lucky to repeat the same thing since they have Mbappe to strengthen the team formation.

Real Madrid has gotten to the top of this tournament last season and they will love to take the trophy once more. I also think they were deliberate about the bringing of Mbappé who will work hard to deliver his dream club. Remember, Real Madrid is still have Ancelotti as its coach and are not ready to relinquish him anytime within the season and I don't think Ancelotti is also interested in leading the club some more times since he understood the squad and knows how well to bring trophies home. This is also a real challenge to other A-list clubs so we can measure their performances side by side.

They performed well last season but it is natural that they are more excited this season. This time Mbappe has been added to the Real Madrid team squad, and the attacking department has been greatly strengthened. So at any moment Real Madrid players can attack fiercely, especially now with any team they are ready to compete with. Their attacking thinking is different as Ancelotti develops these strategies, and he is a very experienced coach.
Therefore, he can easily create the idea of how to succeed if he attacks the opposite team, that's why he has been the coach of Real Madrid for a long time.

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Quote from: iBaba on September 12, 2024, 04:58:23 PM

Real Madrid has gotten to the top of this tournament last season and they will love to take the trophy once more. I also think they were deliberate about the bringing of Mbappé who will work hard to deliver his dream club. Remember, Real Madrid is still have Ancelotti as its coach and are not ready to relinquish him anytime within the season and I don't think Ancelotti is also interested in leading the club some more times since he understood the squad and knows how well to bring trophies home. This is also a real challenge to other A-list clubs so we can measure their performances side by side.

If it will be wrong to.say it's the dream of many coaches out there to win the champions league as many times as possible is what I really don't know this is because some may be dreaming to win just once and they will be fine but for ancelloti, he wouldn't mind if he gets it every season, the prestigiouness that comes with the trophy is one that one would almost never get tired of. Other than winning the trophy alone Ancelotti would love to set a very high standard with the records before he finally retires. Othe A-list teams are going to throw a challenge at Ancelotti this season, not been able to identify them just yet isn't a problem but they will show up.

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Quote from: iBaba on September 12, 2024, 04:58:23 PM

Quote from: Marykeller on September 12, 2024, 01:26:33 PM

For this upcoming season, who knows whether Real Madrid might find themselves lucky to repeat the same thing since they have Mbappe to strengthen the team formation.

Real Madrid has gotten to the top of this tournament last season and they will love to take the trophy once more. I also think they were deliberate about the bringing of Mbappé who will work hard to deliver his dream club. Remember, Real Madrid is still have Ancelotti as its coach and are not ready to relinquish him anytime within the season and I don't think Ancelotti is also interested in leading the club some more times since he understood the squad and knows how well to bring trophies home. This is also a real challenge to other A-list clubs so we can measure their performances side by side.

The champions league is such that an unpredictable competition and we may not get to assume right what the final outcome of the competition will be. Real Madrid may have signed Mbappe for them to strengthen their squad but till now, some people still found that Mbappe is yet to deliver as much of what is expected from him since he joined the team. I don’t know if they will want him to lead the club only to glory but it’s a collective effort by the teammates that will make that happen. Even when Mbappe has not joined the team, I see them as a team that can still win the champions league trophy for another time. Mbappe addition to the squad will just make it a more convincing facts that they’ll finish in a good position in the competition or maybe win the competition at all cost.

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Quote from: armanda90 on September 12, 2024, 05:16:10 PM

Since UEFA Champion League season 2024/25 adopt new format, all matches are the final match for participants teams and must secure three points if won't loss opportunity dropped out from top eight standings position are directly get to knock out round place.

Are you sure they will drop out of the top eight after losing first match? I think since it is a group stage game, it will depend on the group performance and the number of points accumulated by each teams just as it is happening the Leagues.

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I think Manchester City have target for winning their first match against Inter Milan and become the most interested match for the 1 of 8 matches in Champion League phase league round.

Manchester City have lead head to head against Inter Milan after their victory on UEFA Champion League final match season 2022/23, but could be motivate for Inter Milan revenge their defeated from Manchester City and get three important away points how to secure the top eight position place. Not only have secure three points, but new format must scoring as many possibility goals if later have any teams get the same points for leading the top eight position place.

Not just Manchester City, if any team can win their matches they will all be happy because losing first match in a new format where you are not familiar with is. Not proper, simply because you don’t have confidence of making it to the next round since there are other teams you have to play with and all of them will also be anticipating for win either in their matches. The best thing is to make sure you avoid losing your games, if you cannot win, don’t lose, you can at least play a draw to help your team with accumulate more points.

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Winning this game is a thing of high probability for Manchester City but not like the finals where Manchester City won because in that game it was like a must for them to win since it was supposed to determine if they will be the champions or they are going to be the runner u so guardian at that point will literally do everything to keep the citizen ahead but in this game there's a difference tho the same champions league spirit but this time Manchester City and inter Milan are going to kick off the champions league for the season tho it's not a primary determinant to anything but it's surely going to count so a draw wouldn't do much harm, invariably I'm saying if you get to see the game end a draw, just know it's not supposed to be a surprise as both teams doesn't have so much to look up to from this game.

Since UEFA Champion League season 2024/25 adopt new format, all matches are the final match for participants teams and must secure three points if won't loss opportunity dropped out from top eight standings position are directly get to knock out round place.
I think Manchester City have target for winning their first match against Inter Milan and become the most interested match for the 1 of 8 matches in Champion League phase league round.

Manchester City have lead head to head against Inter Milan after their victory on UEFA Champion League final match season 2022/23, but could be motivate for Inter Milan revenge their defeated from Manchester City and get three important away points how to secure the top eight position place. Not only have secure three points, but new format must scoring as many possibility goals if later have any teams get the same points for leading the top eight position place.

If every team competing in the Champions League this season considers each match like a final, then that means each of them has 8 final matches. Cheesy

I only agree that all matches are difficult, but that doesn't mean it is always difficult for every strong team like Real Madrid or Manchester City. 8 teams qualify automatically, while the other 16 teams will compete for places through the play-off round.

Manchester City and Inter are both strong in my opinion, so it's definitely difficult to guess who will win it. But I would say that Manchester City has a big chance of winning over Inter because the match is being played at the Etihad Stadium. Manchester City are playing at home and that is an advantage they should take advantage of.

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Quote from: iBaba on September 12, 2024, 04:58:23 PM

Quote from: Marykeller on September 12, 2024, 01:26:33 PM

For this upcoming season, who knows whether Real Madrid might find themselves lucky to repeat the same thing since they have Mbappe to strengthen the team formation.

Real Madrid has gotten to the top of this tournament last season and they will love to take the trophy once more. I also think they were deliberate about the bringing of Mbappé who will work hard to deliver his dream club. Remember, Real Madrid is still have Ancelotti as its coach and are not ready to relinquish him anytime within the season and I don't think Ancelotti is also interested in leading the club some more times since he understood the squad and knows how well to bring trophies home. This is also a real challenge to other A-list clubs so we can measure their performances side by side.

The plan to bring Mbappe has been around for a few seasons so now that he is in Madrid it is clear that he could be one of the most backbone players in the future even though for now his performance still needs more adaptation but in the end this is still a plus for Madrid.

In addition, talking about Ancelotti is a little difficult where even though the tactics he uses are actually quite simple but in the end he can always bring success that can not even be expected especially the Champions League is not new because he is a sensational coach here with the most trophies and is very suitable for Madrid which they are also a club that has the most trophies too.
But at the end of the day, the competition is obviously still very tough for Madrid and we have to see if the change from the group stage to the league stage will have an impact on the big club or not in terms of performance.

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Quote from: Marykeller on September 12, 2024, 01:26:33 PM

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For this upcoming season, who knows whether Real Madrid might find themselves lucky to repeat the same thing since they have Mbappe to strengthen the team formation.

It may or may not be. Mbappe haven't won the Champions league despite how far he has come in his career so winning their UCL with his dream club, Madrid will be on top of his priority list for this 2024/2025 season. But unlike everyone else that have rushed to conclude that Madrid would win, I think they wouldn't and will be knocked out in one of the knockout stages — my bias will remain this way unless Madrid's performance turns around in the near future because right now, it ain't shit.

So who's on my list to win it? Can't say but there are good options especially teams like City and probably Bayern or Leverkusen + Liverpool.

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