UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season - page 65.

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Quote from: Moreno233 on November 29, 2024, 11:57:29 AM

Atalanta is among the teams I'm tipping to win the champions league this season if it misses Liverpool and Barcelona. Like you said, Atalanta is in their best form, even better than last season when they disgraced Bayern Leverkusen in the Europa League final. I see danger for Real Madrid because they need to win that match to remain in the round of 16 automatic qualification because PSG is seriously following them. Using the performance Madrid, I will bet Atalanta to win that match

That's too far for me.

Although I do recognise that up until now after some early season drama Atalanta have been one of the dark horses for the Champions League and domestic Serie A. But to say Atalanta are one of the candidates for the championship I think is going too far.

The Champions League is not the Europa League where every surprise can always happen especially when talking about the club lifting the trophy, although currently Atalanta appear solid but in the end the Champions League especially to become a champion is not an easy thing for a club that still has limitations in terms of players and experience so even though Atalanta are currently impressive and most likely they will be able to qualify for the next round but when talking about champions and Atalanta being a candidate I think it's too far away.

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Quote from: Docnaster on November 28, 2024, 09:21:32 AM

Personally, I think Conor Bradley should have won the man if the match award last night for putting out such an incredible person against one of best footballers on the planet in the person of Kylian Mbappe. The young Liverpool lad was able to silence the France national team captain and stopped him from creating chances in the game as well as scoring. I think at the moment, it's safe to say that Liverpool right back position is very safe even without Trent Alexander-Arnold. Great performance from all the Liverpool players last night I must say

Even though Conor Bradley put in an impressive performance against Real Madrid in the Champions League, I don't think he necessarily deserved the Man of the Match award. Conor Bradley is undoubtedly he is s promising player with immense talent and could be a perfect replacement for Trent Alexander Arnold if Trent chooses to leave liverpool. His composure and ability to handle high pressure games at such a young age highlight his potential to becoming a key member of the club.

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Turns out it only took one Conor Bradley to shut Mbappe down. We still forgive Moh Salah for missing a penalty, but I'm not sure Madrid fans will forgive Mbappe for missing a penalty. 3 points brought Liverpool back to the top of the table and now 2 leagues have been secured by Liverpool perfectly (Top of the Premier League and Top of the Champion League). A very special win for Liverpool as the last time they won was in 2009.

Mbappe had a disappointing performance in the match despite being played at his preferred position. He struggled to make an impact, frequently losing possession and his match rating was the lowest in the game. Overall it was a brilliant all round display from the reds. The team showcased outstanding team spirit, resilience and cohesion in the match. This victory further demonstrates Liverpool's growing status as one of the favourites in this year's UEFA Champions League.

Mbappe should have been able to take advantage of the momentum in this match, even he was played on the wing as he wanted. but unfortunately, Arne Slot seems to have found a formula for how they can still perform at their best and even excel in ball possession over Madrid. Conor Bradley, one of the players who has been a hot topic in various digital media for his performance in overcoming Mbappe's actions. apart from the El Real players who are injured, Mbappe's performance has not shown his sharpness. even in this match Mbappe who has a very low statistical value, of course a situation that Real Madrid does not expect. in the Liverpool camp, an epic victory under the tutelage of Arne slot. Liverpool finally stopped Real Madrid's superiority from the H2H record of the meeting between the two teams, while securing their position at the top of the Champions League qualifying table. it is also a shame that I missed the 5th session of the Champions League qualifiers, but it seems that the next session will be even more exciting, especially for teams who insist on qualifying for the next round.

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Sure. I can’t say this is the end of Manchester City because they are still not a weak team in the Premier League up until now; they are still doing well on their own; they are topping the second in the table, and you said that is their end? No. However, for any team that is doing well, the fans always happen to think that they will be in that situation for a long time, and that is what happened to Manchester City;

they have been doing well for a long time now, so just because this season is rough for them, they will comeback stronger. Pep Guardiola is a talented coach, and he knows what he is doing, although I know currently he is also finding it difficult to restore the team, but he will sure over come that.

Manchester City is still a strong team for most Premier League contestants. I admit that 3 of the 20 teams so far have managed to beat Manchester City, but you are right that this is not the end of it. The position of the standings can still change quickly because however I am sure Liverpool will have a turn to lose some points. The competition will be very good in the second half of the season, even if the points gap between Liverpool and Manchester City is currently 8 points.

I also think the same thing in the Champions League. Manchester City have not lost anything in the Champions League this season, even if they have to try to qualify for the last 16 via the playoffs. The opportunity is still there and this will be worked on, so we'll see what Pep Guardiola can do for his team.

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This is what the Real Madrid coach said before the match: "The players who returned from the national team, like Valverde and Vinicius, were in good shape, and that's the point. Sometimes injuries happen, and we know why, which is that there are so many matches."
He also said: "It will be a very interesting match. It is a clash between two historic clubs in this tournament, and each team has its own characteristics. We will see who has the character and courage to show it on the pitch. I see this match as a great opportunity to get back to our best level. The team is improving, it has become more solid, and we know that we will face a strong opponent. I have great confidence in the team, and tomorrow we will definitely be competitive. Liverpool are performing well, but we are back in the competition, and there is still a long way to go."

Through these statements, he seems confident in himself and in his team's ability to continue their record of victories over Liverpool, who have not managed to win against Real since 2009 on the same stadium. I am still waiting to find the statements of this coach after the painful defeat last Wednesday.

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Quote from: Moreno233 on November 29, 2024, 11:57:29 AM

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And the next game for REal Madrid will not be easy either.
They will face Atalanta.

Atalanta performed extraordinarily in the last years but now they are probably in their best moment event.
It will be not an easy at all for the, at this point I think that real Madrid can only hope for the playoff.
, but the next game it will be the last call and possibility for them.
Sure they can beat Atalanta and gain the direct access for the second stage of the tournament with a qualify in the tp

Atalanta is among the teams I'm tipping to win the champions league this season if it misses Liverpool and Barcelona. Like you said, Atalanta is in their best form, even better than last season when they disgraced Bayern Leverkusen in the Europa League final. I see danger for Real Madrid because they need to win that match to remain in the round of 16 automatic qualification because PSG is seriously following them. Using the performance Madrid, I will bet Atalanta to win that match

Seriously, Atalanta are in good shape, but it won't be easy for them to win the Champion League this season. Barcelona is in a better position trust me when i say that. And then Liverpool and Arsenal are next in line before Atalanta. Liverpool and Inter have never lost in any Champions League game this season. You never can tell what will be in the end. Real Madrid and Manchester City may come back to their full form once their injured players are back. We know how they go about their winning streak when they are strong again. What am saying here is that, in as much as Atalanta is in good form this season, the UCL trophy is not guaranteed to them. For me, they have a lower chance of winning the league.

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Quote from: ajanwalker on November 28, 2024, 06:00:50 AM

Real Madrid's Champions League performance is a complete disappointment. They lost 2-0 away to Liverpool yesterday and they are in the 24th place in the points table with 2 wins in 5 matches.
In the remaining 3 matches, Salzburg is an easy match on paper, but the Atalanta match and the Brest match are away and not easy.
I think that Brest, which I watched in front of Barça, is not an easy target and they play very well at home in the Champions League.
Real Madrid may bid farewell to the Champions League at the beginning of this year.

I always say it, I say it again, Mbappe was the wrong transfer. The mood of the team was bad. In my eyes, there has never been and will never be such a quality football player. Just like Neymar, he is a balloon. Neither Ronaldo nor Lionel Messi.

Real Madrid is a world class club, and I believe that they have what it takes to win their remaining games. Neither Atalanta, Salzburg and brest have the quality of players to truly challenge Real Madrid or to cause an upset. I am confident that Real Madrid will progress to the next round of the competition,regardless of their current struggles.

As for Kylian Mbappe, I don't think he was a wrong signing for the club. Real Madrid is a big team, and much is expected of the players who join them. Mbappe might be finding it hard to settle in right now but with time and the guidance of Carlo Ancelotti, he will adapt and contribute to the club's success as expected.

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Quote from: Moreno233 on November 29, 2024, 11:57:29 AM

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And the next game for REal Madrid will not be easy either.
They will face Atalanta.

Atalanta performed extraordinarily in the last years but now they are probably in their best moment event.
It will be not an easy at all for the, at this point I think that real Madrid can only hope for the playoff.
, but the next game it will be the last call and possibility for them.
Sure they can beat Atalanta and gain the direct access for the second stage of the tournament with a qualify in the tp

Atalanta is among the teams I'm tipping to win the champions league this season if it misses Liverpool and Barcelona. Like you said, Atalanta is in their best form, even better than last season when they disgraced Bayern Leverkusen in the Europa League final. I see danger for Real Madrid because they need to win that match to remain in the round of 16 automatic qualification because PSG is seriously following them. Using the performance Madrid, I will bet Atalanta to win that match

In Serie A, Atalanta played consistently, even in all the matches they played, they got positive results and won their last five matches, it is not impossible that in the Champions League they will definitely be able to provide a victory making Atalanta in 5th position in the Champions League standings and they are also undefeated in their last five matches, so in my opinion, Atalanta is likely to be able to face Liverpool or Barcelona in the next match.

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Turns out it only took one Conor Bradley to shut Mbappe down. We still forgive Moh Salah for missing a penalty, but I'm not sure Madrid fans will forgive Mbappe for missing a penalty. 3 points brought Liverpool back to the top of the table and now 2 leagues have been secured by Liverpool perfectly (Top of the Premier League and Top of the Champion League). A very special win for Liverpool as the last time they won was in 2009.

Mbappe had a disappointing performance in the match despite being played at his preferred position. He struggled to make an impact, frequently losing possession and his match rating was the lowest in the game. Overall it was a brilliant all round display from the reds. The team showcased outstanding team spirit, resilience and cohesion in the match. This victory further demonstrates Liverpool's growing status as one of the favourites in this year's UEFA Champions League.

That position is better filled by Vinicus than Mbappe because he doesn't see himself as a wing striker character, he seems to lose his way because several times dribbling always fails and is successfully broken by the opponent, so it is clear that his rating is the lowest plus a failed penalty.

Maybe now Liverpool's favorite in the Champion League is the top, if you look at the gambling bandaru with the bet, Liverpool is the winning option with low odds, because of the brilliant quality of the game.

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Quote from: MAAManda on November 28, 2024, 12:12:34 PM

It was surprising to see both teams not performing as well as usual, Manchester City only managed a draw against Feyenoord at home & Real Madrid lost to Liverpool. Due to the results in round 5, both teams are only ranked 17th (Manchester City) & 24th (Real Madrid). Luckily, they are still in the play-off qualification zone, unlike PSG who are already out of the zone. I think this season is a crazy season for some of the big teams.

If Real Madrid and Manchester City had no injury problems, the season wouldn’t have been easy for Liverpool. Manchester City won the treble and dominated the English Premier League for four seasons. No team stays at the top forever, there will be one bad season and City are having that 1 bad season after so many great campaigns in all competitions. I think Manchester City can definitely go without winning the UCL or Premier league for one season.

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Quote from: bitLeap on November 28, 2024, 02:43:09 AM

Turns out it only took one Conor Bradley to shut Mbappe down. We still forgive Moh Salah for missing a penalty, but I'm not sure Madrid fans will forgive Mbappe for missing a penalty. 3 points brought Liverpool back to the top of the table and now 2 leagues have been secured by Liverpool perfectly (Top of the Premier League and Top of the Champion League). A very special win for Liverpool as the last time they won was in 2009.

Mbappe had a disappointing performance in the match despite being played at his preferred position. He struggled to make an impact, frequently losing possession and his match rating was the lowest in the game. Overall it was a brilliant all round display from the reds. The team showcased outstanding team spirit, resilience and cohesion in the match. This victory further demonstrates Liverpool's growing status as one of the favourites in this year's UEFA Champions League.

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Last year, when Joselu was there, Real Madrid seemed to be playing better. Because there was no player at the center. This year, Mbappé is at the center and they try to send the chances to him. He often wastes the chances. Considering the criticisms this year, maybe it would have been better for his career if he stayed at Paris Saint-Germain. He doesn't play very logically in such a game at Real Madrid's level. Also, if Ancelotti is to be criticized, he should be able to take Mbappé out of the game if he is playing badly. Being patient with him for 90 minutes drove many people crazy in front of the TV like me.

No it would have been better for his career if he had not been that greedy and instead went to Real Madrid 7 years ago. Or maybe 5 years ago. But this only refers to his career because speaking about his life, PSG was the best decision he ever made as they made him almost a billionaire at such a young age. But for his career PSG was the wrong decision because he never played up to his full potential.

I think if he had now been playing in La Liga or the Premier League for the last 5 years or more, he would be a different player. Ligue 1 was a waste of time. Just imagine if you are one of the best players in the world, what the heck are you doing in France? Think about Haaland if he now went to PSG, he would never ever do that. It would be ridiculous to see him celebrate his goals against opponents that are so inferior. That is not what Haaland is after, he wants the challenge and you can literally tell from his interviews that he wants to be where the toughest and hardest football is played and that is why he went to Manchester City.

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For over the past few season's Manchester City under Guardiola's watch, Manchester City has not faced with the kind of result they're getting in the past two - five games of their games, and it will definitely have a psychological effect on both the manager and the players, and affect their performance the more, especially when the taticts that was working perfectly seem not to be working at all, and witnessing your squad hit back to back draws and defeat as seen now, from one lose to one draw to another lose.

People fail to understand that in life whatever has a beginning also has an end. What we are seeing now is the end of of era. Pep Guardiola has led Manchester City to to highest level and just as the force of gravity, it's time to fall down. Check the history of so many top clubs they got to a height and began to lose their too performance. Mancity fans need to accept that the days of winning trophies every season are over. A team that gave out a three-goal advantage to an average European side is facing a serious problem. Pep should leave the club now the ovation is loud.

Sure. I can’t say this is the end of Manchester City because they are still not a weak team in the Premier League up until now; they are still doing well on their own; they are topping the second in the table, and you said that is their end? No. However, for any team that is doing well, the fans always happen to think that they will be in that situation for a long time, and that is what happened to Manchester City;

they have been doing well for a long time now, so just because this season is rough for them, they will comeback stronger. Pep Guardiola is a talented coach, and he knows what he is doing, although I know currently he is also finding it difficult to restore the team, but he will sure over come that.

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And the next game for REal Madrid will not be easy either.
They will face Atalanta.

Atalanta performed extraordinarily in the last years but now they are probably in their best moment event.
It will be not an easy at all for the, at this point I think that real Madrid can only hope for the playoff.
, but the next game it will be the last call and possibility for them.
Sure they can beat Atalanta and gain the direct access for the second stage of the tournament with a qualify in the tp

Atalanta is among the teams I'm tipping to win the champions league this season if it misses Liverpool and Barcelona. Like you said, Atalanta is in their best form, even better than last season when they disgraced Bayern Leverkusen in the Europa League final. I see danger for Real Madrid because they need to win that match to remain in the round of 16 automatic qualification because PSG is seriously following them. Using the performance Madrid, I will bet Atalanta to win that match

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Madrid were outclassed in midfield and were unable to control the ball well. Modric was dropped a little further back and that gave him a tough task to distribute the ball forward and also block the flow of Liverpool's attack who had good possession in midfield.
Madrid were outclassed in every way in the match, and it will be Ancelotti's job to solve their problems against teams in the Champions League. Will Madrid be like Man City?

If Erik ten Hag was to be Carlo Ancelotti, he would have been dragged and at same time called incompetent by moat of 5hese posters on here. Whenever a squad is not doing well, then the manager is doing something wrong, lots blaming Kylian Mbappe and Co's but don't forget to look at how the manager set his team up. I know he has a couple injured midfielders but props to Liverpool, they're officially the best club in the world.

People often forget that football is a team effort and it takes all sides of the team to work. When a team performs well the credit doesn't just go to one person alone, it's shared between the players, coach and the entire staff. Similarly when a team underperforms, the responsibility should also be shared. Real Madrid may be experiencing some difficulties at the moment but it would be unfair to totally blame Mbappe for their underwhelming performances. Football is a team game and the coach also plays a critical role in the team's successes and failures. Carlo ancelotti must access the squad's weakness and use the next transfer window to bring in quality players that will strengthen the team.

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Real Madrid made a mistake by hiring Mbappe and spending too much money for a player like him. Real Madrid had a much better option but Real Madrid couldn't even use the penalty kick they had.

We wouldn't blame Real Madrid for hiring Mbappe because if Real Madrid had been this way without Mbappe people would have also been saying that Real Madrid made a mistake of not hiring him but however is as if he has gone from better to worst, I believe if he had scored the penalty real Madrid would have peak form since it was still 1:0 against them, perhaps if another player had taking the penalty it wouldn't have resulted that way.

After last season, when Real won almost every game they participated in and didn't lose in La Liga for almost a year, I don't think anyone would have remembered Mbappe. Mbappe's transfer was lobbied personally by Perez and it was immediately written that Ancelotti was not thrilled with such a purchase, but apparently he had no special choice and he is constantly trying to put Mbappe, although you can see that when Mbappe plays, Jude Bellingham somehow gets lost and it seems that the midfield and Vinicius try to play more on Mbappe, who constantly opens up on the flank and tries to escalate the attack, but Mbappe acts very selfishly, almost not giving passes to partners in the penalty area.

Last season Real were lucky with the purchase of Bellingham, but this time with the purchase of Mbappe everything has not worked out so well for Real.

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And the next game for REal Madrid will not be easy either.
They will face Atalanta.

Atalanta performed extraordinarily in the last years but now they are probably in their best moment event.
It will be not an easy at all for the, at this point I think that real Madrid can only hope for the playoff.
, but the next game it will be the last call and possibility for them.
Sure they can beat Atalanta and gain the direct access for the second stage of the tournament with a qualify in the tp

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Quote from: Frankolala on November 29, 2024, 09:14:36 AM

I don't know why people are putting too much blame on Mbappe when we all know that a tree cannot make a forest. There's nothing Mbappe alone can do without the team complete first eleven. Because if you look at the game, you will see that it's the second choice players that Ancelotti used, and on a good day, he wouldn't have used these set of players if his first eleven are complete. The fact is that, Madrid lost because their players fit for the match are on injury, and Liverpool is super hot this season.

It is natural because if you look at Mbappe, he has not played consistently and has not been able to finish many opportunities well and he even failed to execute a penalty. However, if all the mistakes are blamed on Mbappe, I think it is not right because many Real Madrid players did not play well during the match. Real Madrid's condition will be even more difficult and they will have a very tough season now because their performance is not as usual.

Liverpool really took advantage of Real Madrid's weaknesses so they managed to win the match because in the previous season under Jurgen Klopp, Liverpool found it very difficult to win when facing them. Liverpool has the opportunity to be a candidate for the title because of the majority of teams, they are the only ones who have performed so impressively.

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As we agree that Arne Slot brought Liverpool better than Klopp.

In my opinion, It is too early to say that Arne Slot has brought Liverpool better than Klopp. Slot inherited the squad that Klopp left, he also has not presented a single trophy for Liverpool. Juergen Klopp has contributed many trophies to Liverpool during his time as manager, the trophy correction given to Liverpool is very complete, during his time as coach, he has led Liverpool to win several prestigious events such as UCL, EPL, FA Cup, Community Shield, European Super Cup, Club World Cup and EFL Cup. So if you want to measure the level of success of Arne Slot with Klopp, he must be able to make Liverpool win several prestigious competitions like Klopp has done.

I agree with you, The comparison is too early, as Arne slot is still in his formative stage with the REDS, although it is safe to say that he has been able to improve from what he inherited from klopp, but making a comparison and saying Slot brought Liverpool better than klopp is a definite NO NO for me, Jürgen klopp spent almost 9 years with Liverpool and won lots of amazing trophies for Liverpool, in fact in recent times, he is the best coach so far to have managed the REDS.

Slot has been able to bring Liverpool in a positive direction with consistency and also a fairly attractive game scheme, but we must also not forget that the squad left by Klopp is a perfect squad with an extraordinary champion mentality, so it is not surprising if slot can adapt and also build the current Liverpool easily, but even so it is too early for us to say that slot is great after they beat Madrid, Because however Madrid slump condition allows them to win easily in the match, currently Slot have a big challenge to bring Liverpool as a title challenger team, so with that we can say if the Reds are in the right hands now.

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Quote from: Salahmu on November 29, 2024, 04:40:46 AM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 28, 2024, 04:50:13 PM

Real Madrid made a mistake by hiring Mbappe and spending too much money for a player like him. Real Madrid had a much better option but Real Madrid couldn't even use the penalty kick they had.

We wouldn't blame Real Madrid for hiring Mbappe because if Real Madrid had been this way without Mbappe people would have also been saying that Real Madrid made a mistake of not hiring him but however is as if he has gone from better to worst, I believe if he had scored the penalty real Madrid would have peak form since it was still 1:0 against them, perhaps if another player had taking the penalty it wouldn't have resulted that way.

However the penalty missed out was actually common for them because it was back to back, though it was funny seeing the positioning of Mohammed salah and were the ball went, he could not believe he was the one that played it do to how surprised he looks, meanwhile Alexis Mac Allister is a good midfielder for Liverpool and I love his finishing because it was smooth and clean no too much stress for him and Bradley has cleared the obstacle for him.

I don't know why people are putting too much blame on Mbappe when we all know that a tree cannot make a forest. There's nothing Mbappe alone can do without the team complete first eleven. Because if you look at the game, you will see that it's the second choice players that Ancelotti used, and on a good day, he wouldn't have used these set of players if his first eleven are complete. The fact is that, Madrid lost because their players fit for the match are on injury, and Liverpool is super hot this season.

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