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Quote from: SatoPrincess on January 25, 2025, 04:34:29 PM

After many years of consistent dominance and jaw dropping victories for Real Madrid I will be surprised to see someone doubt Real Madrid. Infact It will rather be shocking to see Madrid not qualify that winning the Champions League title this season after a disappointing start to the campaign. Arsenal are better in champions league than they have played in the league this season and I know they will surpass the knockout stages of the champions league but winning it is a big doubt except all top sides get eliminated in the process.

If there is a competition that one shouldn’t be ruling out a club out of a competition because of their poor performance then it should certainly be Real Madrid not been ruled out of the champions league as long as the club still remains in the competition. For me I don’t rate Madrid pre knockout stage performance because they seems to simply just get better in the competition as they go on. I read one time when Pep Guardiola made a comment and truthful statement that as long Real Madrid is still in the competition they are the favourite regardless of their form. I see them been getting better too and could win the tittle.

As for Arsenal this wasn’t surprising at all to me because I expected tip definitely get pass this stage, my point of fall for them is the same quarter final or RO16 like last season I don’t see them beyond these stages because they lack that consistency and the depth to do that

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on January 24, 2025, 11:25:15 AM

This was an unexpected result. Surely a lot of gamblers lost money in this match. Naturally, we considered Bayern Munich as the favorite in this match. Because Feyenoord is not considered a very strong team. Feyenoord is a mediocre team.

Bayern Munich dominated the match. Bayern Munich players had 80% of the ball possession. However, Munich's defense was weak. Feyenoord players attacked too much. However, the team was more focused on scoring goals than counterattacking. Feyenoord players were able to make several strong counterattacks and the team was able to score goals.

Feyenoord was very tactical in this match. Feyenoord played a somewhat defensive strategy. On the other hand, Bayern Munich played a completely attacking strategy but could not score a single goal. This was a big failure for Bayern Munich.

Bayern Munich displayed a shambolic performance against a lower team like feyenoord. Their coordination was far from their usual best as they failed to break down Feyenoord stubborn defense. It was a good tactical approach from Priske and his players as they were able to cage Bayern Munich and produced a good performance. Feyenoord were the better team in the match and this win will put them in a more safe spot in the standings.

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Quote from: bitgolden on January 25, 2025, 03:04:53 PM

I am pretty sure that most of the big teams will still be at the places they always are. Quarter finals of this year will be pretty similar to previous seasons, I am sure of that. Obviously this does depend on who matches with who, if too many big teams match with each other, then only one will go forward, which means some unexpected teams could be there.

Many unexpected clubs will be there, already some of the big clubs are already not progressing to the round of 16 or they'll be playing the extra games needed which is going to be more stressful for them while the other teams will be resting from playing the champions league games. The week 7 games came with alot of good performances and it was very entertaining to watch..I can't wait for week 8 to come so.we can see the clubs that'll try all their best to qualify to the next stage of the tournament. The champions league is getting more interesting for me to watch and the games too are getting more seriousness from the players as all games are important..

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Real Madrid still remains one of the best team in the world. And despite their season been disrupted by injuries to key first team players it's encouraging to see them getting back to winning ways. Historically Madrid has demonstrated resilience, bouncing back from challenging periods to maintain their dominance both domestically and internationally.

Madrid’s disappointing outings earlier in the season might have caused some concern but with the gradual return of injured players. Their quality is begining to shine through once again under the guidance of Carlo Ancelotti, Madrid ability to adapt and compete at the highest level is a testament to the club's deep squad depth, winning mentality, and unwavering commitment to excellence.

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Quote from: KTChampions on January 24, 2025, 11:05:56 AM

And Arsenal is quoted on par with Real (as is Barcelona). In principle, it's a pretty old story - Real is always underestimated, but what did Arsenal show to be quoted so well? In my opinion, they are failing the season. By the way, it may be that such a difference in the chances of Liverpool and Real is explained by the simple fact that Real will most likely take part in the preliminary playoffs.

Those who don't understand Real Madrid will definitely be underestimated because they failed in several matches while Liverpool managed to bulldoze all the victories.

So don't be surprised if Real Madrid will be equal again with Liverpool in terms of odds.

Arsenal? I'm not sure they'll go any further in the end and will find themselves in a deadlock.

After many years of consistent dominance and jaw dropping victories for Real Madrid I will be surprised to see someone doubt Real Madrid. Infact It will rather be shocking to see Madrid not qualify that winning the Champions League title this season after a disappointing start to the campaign. Arsenal are better in champions league than they have played in the league this season and I know they will surpass the knockout stages of the champions league but winning it is a big doubt except all top sides get eliminated in the process.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on January 25, 2025, 05:23:45 AM

I think the split of points between Club Brugge and Juventus could have something to do with Juventus being an absolute king of draws this season:

I think drawing 62% of their league games could be unprecedented. I'm starting to think they're doing that on purpose Grin

I agree with you saying Juventus be crowned the king of draw this season, I mean how else do we describe them for a team that got about 5 draws in a row. Well I even taught of it maybe this could be a strategy for them to wanting to maintain a position on the table enough not to fall off below top five ans it appears to be working for them as they haven't fallen below that recently , but again if it's a strategy, then it's definitely not a good one, as I don't see that as a sustainable strategy as it will fail in that if any five teams begin to get some winning streets, they get to push them down the table.

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on January 24, 2025, 09:00:33 AM

As people here are talking about Real Madrid chance to win the title, I think it's worth mentioning that Bookmakers still believe that Real Madrid has a big chance to win the title.
I just checked the odds and only Liverpool had lower odds than Real Madrid.

Currently, the odds for Liverpool to win the title are 5 and for Real Madrid are 7. Arsenal and Barcelona have the same odds as Real Madrid.

I don’t see Barcelona or Arsenal even getting to the finals of the champions league this season because they have not been able to maintain that consistency this season so I doubt they will hold up and get through to the finals but if Real Madrid one way or the other qualifies for the knockout stages the odds given to them will definitely drop massively because they will automatically become contenders for their record in past years competing in the Champions League.

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I am pretty sure that most of the big teams will still be at the places they always are. Quarter finals of this year will be pretty similar to previous seasons, I am sure of that. Obviously this does depend on who matches with who, if too many big teams match with each other, then only one will go forward, which means some unexpected teams could be there.

But I am 100% certain that when it comes to finals, it will be two teams that we all know from previous seasons, nothing weird. This new league structure just makes some teams go far, instead of go down, but that's it, nothing too far, either playoff stage or last sixteen stage, that's it, nothing more. This is why I believe we are going to see the same things again at the end.

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Quote from: Frankolala on January 25, 2025, 03:03:51 AM

I have lost confidence in City, especially when they have the chance of leading their opponents, and at the end of the game, it turns to be a draw or a defeat. This is why I am not sure if City will be able to win Club Brugge. City have lost their pace and I don't know what's their problem. They don't have that winning mentality anymore which makes me see them as an average club currently.

I would've shared similar opinion with you about Manchester City if they aren't managed by Pep Guardiola but because the Spaniard is still the coach of the side, I believe he can help them progress to the knockout stages of the competition. Mathematically, Manchester City are still in contention to reach the next round but that can only happen if they succeed to beat Club Brugge in their final game of the group stage. City will play that game at the Etihad in front of their cheering fans and with their intimidating quality players so I don't think there's anything that's gonna stop them from winning that game. If Manchester City succeeds to progress to the next round, they'll definitely go far in the competition this season I think

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Quote from: tusandii on January 25, 2025, 05:14:35 AM

Ancelotti has had good experience when handling Real Madrid especially in the Champions League competition and has won several awards so as time goes by I am sure Ancelotti will restore Real Madrid's performance as before and become a strong candidate in the UCL but the problem is there are tough obstacles this season for Real Madrid not only Barcelona but also the English club Liverpool this club seems to have quite high ambitions in the UCL.

That is true, even though they may have started badly, he is still a great manager and I am sure that he will figure out a way to get them back on track again. I get that we are seeing them do fine right now, and they may end up in top 24, get to play some team at playoff game, and they will most likely win that game as well.

City is the real question for me, right now they are two points out of UCL standings, there are six teams that in theory they can pass if they win their next game, but it is going to be a tough one for sure, plus even a tie would guarantee them staying, there is no other option but to win their last game, they have to, and to make sure they go up, they should beat Brugge by a lot of goals too, would help with GD issue as well.

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Quote from: MK-74 on January 24, 2025, 09:06:55 AM

This year's biggest candidate for the championship is definitely Liverpool, but no one knows what will happen in the final.

The matches are very important here, which team will match which team, maybe we can see early finals.

My championship ranking is as follows.
Liverpool > Real Madrid > Barcelona > Arsenal

The ranking is not in order this should have been Liverpool > Barcelona > Arsenal > Any other team.

I dont know why you include Real Madrid in this, perhaps you are one strong fan of Real Madrid and you think they will get back up to qualify for the semi finals. Well i am not in doubt but if they are still playing the way they are playing right now till then i will right them off to qualify. The first 3 teams i mentioned i have strong believe they will be playing against each other. I wish it will be Arsenal vs Barcelona in the finals.

In my opinion, Real Madrid deserves to be in that position, indeed many people are doubting them because of their performance and they have to fight hard to qualify for R16, but I am sure that if they have secured their place in that round they will be hard to stop and it must be remembered that they have a champion mentality.

Arsenal? Sorry, I find it difficult to say that they will be able to advance to the final round let alone win the trophy, that is because of what they have shown so far, because for those who want to be champions! they don't just rely on current results, mentality also plays a role and Arsenal doesn't have that.

Normally we all are expected to see a good performance from Real Madrid in the round of 16 because that is what they are known for. I know many people will find it discouraging to support Real Madrid in the round of 16, but that is the same thing that happened in the last season, in which they still became the champion of the trophy. Their performance was so poor from the beginning of the season, but when it was almost to the end of the season, we will be seeing a very strong and surprising performance, which I can say is like the best strategy they use to make other teams underestimate them so that they can make it to the trophy.

Talking about Arsenal, I will say let's wait and see what they will be capable of doing, but we all know that they will not be able to go anywhere in the league considering their lack of consistency in performance, so I don’t think They will be capable of doing anything.

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Quote from: Frankolala on January 25, 2025, 03:03:51 AM

I have lost confidence in City, especially when they have the chance of leading their opponents, and at the end of the game, it turns to be a draw or a defeat. This is why I am not sure if City will be able to win Club Brugge. City have lost their pace and I don't know what's their problem. They don't have that winning mentality anymore which makes me see them as an average club currently.

A very dramatic episode that happened to Manchester City at this time, there are many big doubts whether Pep Guardiola's team can get through this phase and enter the playoffs later. the last match against Club Brugge was a drama for Manchester City itself, because I suspect that Club Brugge will play without a big burden like what happened to City. if City fails to penetrate the playoffs, there will be many who mock them with their current performance. I am sometimes confused, what is actually happening behind the Manchester City dressing room. this team was initially predicted to be one of the strong candidates in the fight for the trophy, but in fact what happened was the opposite. even so City still has the slightest chance, I am sure Pep Guardiola knows very well that his reputation will be at stake. there are not many choices other than to appear all out and spur the motivation of his team, because the remaining matches can throw them out of this competition. it is still interesting for us to wait, whether Pep is able to bring his team back up or they will be finished by their opponent later.

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Quote from: bitgolden on January 25, 2025, 06:23:23 AM

Real Madrid looked weak at the start of the season and that is why they are not at top eight right now, but that doesn't mean that they didn't get any better, they are much better now. Because of that, while their position at the table may look like they are not as great as they used to be, their recent form shows that (except the Barcelona game) they are pretty good.

This is why I am assuming that we are going to see Real Madrid have another chance to get another title, of course it will be a hard one, but I feel like we can make it work, there isn't anything we should be worried about, we need to make sure that we can make this work, and if they can do this, then we are going to end up with a good result without a doubt.

The Champions League for Real Madrid is like a home away from home where they will surely go through many obstacles but eventually become champions like last season. The team has always had a strong mentality for this competition so it wouldn't be strange to doubt Real Madrid now but they will eventually reach the final.
I think Real Madrid can at least reach the semi-finals if they play better then the final is still a possibility.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on January 25, 2025, 05:08:49 AM

Liverpool and Barcelona have secured top 8 before the final game week. There aren't any other teams doing so yet right? As far as I know there isn't.

Even Arsenal which are the 3rd now can find themselves out of this area theoretically then. But honestly I don't expect the teams with 16 points to be out of top 8 anymore. This means Arsenal and Inter.

I don't think Atletico Madrid and Milan will also be out of it with 15 points considering the difficulty of their final games. But to predict the last 2 teams for this area isn't easy at all for me. Sad

Liverpool has been the most impressive in the Champions League this season keeping a clean record of been undefeated even down to their 7th match. Barcelona also has a nice record. What ever happens in the next match of this two doesn't matter much has they have already secured their place in the round of 16.

From the third position which is where Arsenal is standing currently down to the 8th position which is currently occupied by Leverkusen all have to fight not to play in the playoffs which will be a determinant of who proceed to the round of 16. I think Arsenal has an essay opponent which happens to be Girona.

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Actually what happened this season in the UCL is no different from what happened last season, last season madrid was not even a favourite after they were defeated by manchester city in the first leg and actually struggled when they also faced munchen in the semifinals, but in fact they still reached the final and also won the championship, besides that, wasn't last season arsenal more favoured than munchen who was in a slump?
But in fact munchen was able to reach the semifinals by eliminating arsenal in the quarterfinals, so I think in addition to performance and also the quality of the team, of course mentality is an important factor in competing in the UCL so far, it is undeniable that madrid currently has to fight hard to qualify for the playoffs, but when they make it to the last 16 then it will be difficult to stop them, because of their extraordinary mentality in the UCL so far.

There are always surprises in every match, and this is what makes football so interesting to watch. Even now the teams that have great dominance in the champions league, with the bar format applied this season, they really have difficulty advancing to the next round.

Meanwhile, Real Madrid, they do have a pretty good record in the champions league, even when people no longer believe in Real Madrid, they are able to reverse that assumption and become champions.

However, it cannot be denied that for this season, doubts about Real Madrid being able to lift the champions league trophy this season, still exist, including me who also doubt it. Plus now it is no longer valid regarding a trend that Real Madrid will never fail when they have reached the final, because in the Spanish Super Cup, Barcelona was able to break that trend.

The change in the UCL format this season has been a huge challenge for the big teams and as you say the big teams are difficulty to qualify for the last 16, the increase in the number of teams means that each club now has more matches and this has an impact on fatigue and injuries, so teams with limited squad depth are feeling the significant impact of the UCL format change, I think for now, Madrid's biggest challenge is to qualify for the last 16, although their ability may be questionable this season in the UCL, but I think with their experience and mentality not should make us rule them out of the running too early from trophies path, because as has happened in previous seasons, precisely every team will experience an improvement in performance and mentality when they enter the knockout stages including madrid.

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Quote from: KTChampions on January 24, 2025, 11:05:56 AM

Surprisingly for me, bookmakers also put Liverpool in first place:

Liverpool - 5.00

Arsenal - 7.00

Barcelona Fc - 7.00

Real Madrid - 7.00

Fc Bayern Munich - 10.00

Manchester City - 11.00

And Arsenal is quoted on par with Real (as is Barcelona). In principle, it's a pretty old story - Real is always underestimated, but what did Arsenal show to be quoted so well? In my opinion, they are failing the season. By the way, it may be that such a difference in the chances of Liverpool and Real is explained by the simple fact that Real will most likely take part in the preliminary playoffs.

It’s no surprise Liverpool are been ranked first in terms of winning this season’s Champions League based on their performance so far in the competition this season as they are only the team with 100% record so far in the competition, but I don't think Arsenal should be ranked second, Barcelona are the second most consistent team in this season UCL and as such should be ranked second behind Liverpool.

Irrespective of where Madrid may be presently in the standings I think they are indeed a worthy contenders and should see their position also rise to third while the likes of Bayern Munich and Manchester City should have dropped due to their performances in the competition.

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Quote from: bitgolden on January 25, 2025, 06:23:23 AM

Real Madrid looked weak at the start of the season and that is why they are not at top eight right now, but that doesn't mean that they didn't get any better, they are much better now. Because of that, while their position at the table may look like they are not as great as they used to be, their recent form shows that (except the Barcelona game) they are pretty good.

This is why I am assuming that we are going to see Real Madrid have another chance to get another title, of course it will be a hard one, but I feel like we can make it work, there isn't anything we should be worried about, we need to make sure that we can make this work, and if they can do this, then we are going to end up with a good result without a doubt.

I am glad to hear that because Real Madrid improved themselves enough to reach the top position but due to some mistakes and poor play they lost some points and lost their position. Since then, Real Madrid has reinvented itself and has a record as strong as perhaps no other team's. It couldn't be better than Barcelona as Real Madrid have just gone from strength to strength and Barcelona have dominated since the start of the season.

Your thinking is good and many people think so and it should be but I see the performance of Barcelona which is a very good team but it will be difficult for Real Madrid to win the title. Real Madrid will have to worry because Barcelona can lose to any team but they will not let Real Madrid lose because they know that if Real Madrid win, their record and hope of winning will be gone. If Real Madrid can beat Barcelona then we can assume that Real Madrid will win the title.

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Real Madrid looked weak at the start of the season and that is why they are not at top eight right now, but that doesn't mean that they didn't get any better, they are much better now. Because of that, while their position at the table may look like they are not as great as they used to be, their recent form shows that (except the Barcelona game) they are pretty good.

This is why I am assuming that we are going to see Real Madrid have another chance to get another title, of course it will be a hard one, but I feel like we can make it work, there isn't anything we should be worried about, we need to make sure that we can make this work, and if they can do this, then we are going to end up with a good result without a doubt.

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Quote from: slapper on January 24, 2025, 03:03:36 PM

And Atletico? Their "elimination" hasn't been confirmed yet. Simeone lives for these gritty, nasty games. There are a lot of stars at Real Madrid, like Mbappé and Bellingham, but Atletico loves nothing more than showing up late to a party. But Madrid is goddamn strong in the Champions League. Most teams lose when they smell blood in the knockout rounds. Liverpool should know: how many times has Real Madrid kicked them out? Arne Slot needs to spend a lot of time thinking about that middle if it happens again

No I mean playing against athletico still doesn’t change anything that Salzburg is already eliminated from the champions league even if Salzburg win it.. it doesn’t change anything, this I think the goals should be greater than 2.5 once again when they play each other..
This year is actually going to be different and true Simeone wants nothing more than disgracing big teams and they seem to be successful this year, let’s see how far they will go.
Thus Liverpool on the other hand, has all it takes to win it this time imo , their biggest regret if they later get eliminated is getting eliminated once again by Realmadrid but that should only happen in the round of 16 .. let’s see if real Madrid gets to that round.. they are strong anyways

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Quote from: bering on January 25, 2025, 02:21:09 AM

Club Brugge had just stole 1 point from Juventus i think this proven they cannot be underestimate because Club Brugge has a potention to make Manchester City not qualify to the next round and it's clearly Manchester City is the favourite in this match but i am sure they are under pressure because if Manchester City draw or even lost their journey in this competition will ended early so win result is mandatory for Manchester City and for this match i am sure Club Brugge will targetting draw result and since the beginning of match they will attempts to strengthen their defense

I think the split of points between Club Brugge and Juventus could have something to do with Juventus being an absolute king of draws this season:

I think drawing 62% of their league games could be unprecedented. I'm starting to think they're doing that on purpose Grin

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