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Quote from: KTChampions on October 24, 2024, 03:29:20 PM

Bayern is weak not only in the Champions League, in the Bundesliga they tied with Bayer and Eintracht. Literally out of 4 serious games Bayern managed to get 2 points (this is taking into account that we consider Eintracht to be a serious game hehe). They started very well, scoring a lot of goals, but it turned out that they are only good against obvious underdogs. As for Barcelona, it is too early to think that they are "back" - let's watch the clásico.

I wouldn't call Bayern weak. If they have any performance problems at all, that would be a problem with consistency not the lack of skills.
In all fairness, they performed better than I expected from them, given the not-so-great league performance last season and the fact the club took a gamble with a manager with very little experience in the highest level of competition.

They could've done better against Eintracht, and one point in an away game against Leverkusen is a decent outcome, considering how dominant Leverkusen have been in the prior season. The 4-1 loss to Barcelone might indeed look like they got outclassed, but if you look at the game stats, Bayern dominated in ball possession and had a similar number of shots on goal, so it wasn't as one-sided performance as many seem to think.

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What? Are you joking perhaps? Taking this game into account, in the last 10 games Bayern have 8 wins and Barcelona 2. And I don't advise you to check the goal difference Grin

The fact is that Bayern are still weak this year - they are weak in both the Bundesliga and the Champions League, we can now say that with confidence.

I agree with you, this present Bayern side are not very strong when it comes to the champions League. I noticed that when they played and lost against Aston villa, that was when I realised that this Bayern side will still struggle in the champions League this season. Kompany is having his first experience as a coach in the champions League. For them to lose to Aston villa didn't speak good about them. Barcelona was definitely going to tore them apart. Especially now that Barcelona are playing very well. Bayern Munich fans should just take it that way, they have dominated Barcelona for too long now and it's not really that bad if they lose to Barcelona, because this Barcelona team right now can ball Manchester city very well at this current form.

Bayern is weak not only in the Champions League, in the Bundesliga they tied with Bayer and Eintracht. Literally out of 4 serious games Bayern managed to get 2 points (this is taking into account that we consider Eintracht to be a serious game hehe). They started very well, scoring a lot of goals, but it turned out that they are only good against obvious underdogs. As for Barcelona, it is too early to think that they are "back" - let's watch the clásico.

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Signs of Barcelona's revival were already visible after Raphinha scored the first goal after just one minute of the match. The Hansi Flick effect was very visible in this match from their playing pattern and the way they held back Bayern Munich attacks. Barcelona finally managed to beat Bayern Munich for the first time since 2015.

The sharpness of Barcelona's front line this season does not know who their opponent is, no one ever predicted that Barcelona would win this match with a landslide score because Bayern Munich is also in its best form. The four goals scored against Bayern Munich mean that Barcelona have scored 17 goals in the last four matches, this impressive record is a very good asset for them to face Real Madrid in the continuation of La Liga.

Of course, I also don't imagine that Barcelona managed to beat Bayern Munich with that much score. Even if they win, I thought Barcelona would adjust their game strategy to defend, but what happened was the opposite. Barcelona continues to develop the game with good collaboration between its players, it looks like a very established team even with many young players. Lamine Yamal really attracted attention throughout the match, as did Pedri, Casado and Cubarsi, which was great in my opinion.

Barcelona's poor record against Bayern Munich was ultimately halted at the hands of Hansi Flick, it's a good contrast to expect this team to return to its best form. But Barcelona still has many weaknesses, of course it is in defense and goalkeeping.

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Quote from: davis196 on October 24, 2024, 01:51:21 AM

It's totally obvious that Vincent Kompany is a very overrated and unexperienced coach. Hiring him was a risky move for Bayern.
He started really good in the Bundesliga, but most German teams are no match to Bayern Munich. It's obvious that Bayern has problems, when they play in the Champions League, where the opponents are stronger. Great game for Barcelona, the Catalonian team has become the favorite of winning both La Liga and the Champions League, and they are achieving great results without buying super expensive and overvalued football players. Having a great manager can make a difference.

I do hope that he proves us wrong, it would be lovely to see a star coach rising from Bayern Munich again, why would I be against anything like that, it is not going to be an issue and we should be considering what type of profit that we are going to see. What we need to consider right now would be just considering how to get better results for Bayern and this Barcelona game could be a start for that.

However, I fear that we could be right and Bayern may end up losing and not having a good UCL season, obviously they "may" win the bundesliga because they are the best team there so it wouldn't be a shock, but I am not expecting anything more from them at all, and winning bundesliga with Bayern isn't exactly an achievement to be fair. They may not even do that, they are not far ahead and they could end up losing the title there too, then we would all know why Vincent Kompany was a bad mistake by Bayern that they shouldn't take a risk like that at all.

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In the La Liga, we see that Atletico Madrid still seems to be doing well. And their performance has not decreased so far. It's just that I also think that their defense has weakened a bit this season. Especially in UCL matches. Even in the previous match against Benfica we saw Atletico Madrid really suffer a big defeat with a score of 4-0. Benfica really destroyed Atletico Madrid in that match. And now Lille has also managed to do the same thing against Atletico Madrid. And that's quite sad for a big team like Atletico Madrid, which usually always performs strongly in the UCL. And Atletico Madrid also has to face an opponent that looks like it will be more difficult in the next match in the UCL, namely against PSG. So Diego Simeone must immediately improve Atletico Madrid's defense if they want to make their team strong again.

To me. Atlantic Madrid are facing a hard time because their previous matches did not end well; they have problems in their defence position. However, PSG is going to be a tough opponent for them if they are in a good performance, so now that they are not in a good performance seriously, PSG may beat them again, because PSG look better than Atlantic Madrid right now to me, but let me conclude maybe their manager will do the necessary things before the match day. Lille beat them in their previous match, and that should be the reason why I’m thinking otherwise about their performance.

I think the Atlético Madrid management should now look for a new and experienced coach. Diego Simeone is unable to improve the performance of this team. I wouldn't say that Simeone is a bad coach. He has been with Atletico Madrid for a long time. But the performance of Atletico Madrid is quite weak now.

Atlético Madrid squad has plenty of talented players as we have seen. But Simeone is yet to create a consistent match strategy for Atletico Madrid. We see erratic gameplay from Atletico Madrid due to weakness in match strategy.

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Quote from: Texac on October 24, 2024, 12:16:21 PM

We have to admit that Atletico Madrid have not been in good form this season. Atletico Madrid have not lost a single match in La Liga this season. However, Madrid has drawn in 5 matches. Atletico Madrid is 7 points behind Barcelona. Although the defenders of the team can play well enough in La Liga, we are not getting the expected results from Atletico Madrid.

Atlético Madrid's performance on the Champions League platform has been very poor. Atlético won only the first match against Leipzig by a margin of 2-1. Madrid then lost 4-0 and 3-1 to Atletico Madrid against Benfica and Lille respectively. Atlético Madrid's overall performance on the Champions League platform has been very poor.

Am even surprised that Atletico Madrid hasn't been at their best performance ever since the season started regardless of the new players they added to their squad during the transfer window but yet they haven't been able to prove their worth. The only thing i like about Atletico Madrid is their defense, they have very good defenders and that is why they have been able to go 10 matches without losing in the la liga.

Their performance in the champions league is only where they have a problem and i can't really figure out what could be the challenge they are facing over there and due to the setting of the champions league might make them not being able to qualify for the knockout round because they have already been demoralized by their performance in the champions league already.

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Quote from: Arenga pinnata on October 24, 2024, 12:33:15 PM

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In the La Liga, we see that Atletico Madrid still seems to be doing well. And their performance has not decreased so far. It's just that I also think that their defense has weakened a bit this season. Especially in UCL matches. Even in the previous match against Benfica we saw Atletico Madrid really suffer a big defeat with a score of 4-0. Benfica really destroyed Atletico Madrid in that match. And now Lille has also managed to do the same thing against Atletico Madrid. And that's quite sad for a big team like Atletico Madrid, which usually always performs strongly in the UCL. And Atletico Madrid also has to face an opponent that looks like it will be more difficult in the next match in the UCL, namely against PSG. So Diego Simeone must immediately improve Atletico Madrid's defense if they want to make their team strong again.

To me. Atlantic Madrid are facing a hard time because their previous matches did not end well; they have problems in their defence position. However, PSG is going to be a tough opponent for them if they are in a good performance, so now that they are not in a good performance seriously, PSG may beat them again, because PSG look better than Atlantic Madrid right now to me, but let me conclude maybe their manager will do the necessary things before the match day. Lille beat them in their previous match, and that should be the reason why I’m thinking otherwise about their performance.

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Quote from: BABY SHOES on October 24, 2024, 12:56:12 PM

Damn...

Some Barcelona fan friends kept sending me footage of Barcelona winning by a landslide... He seemed to rejoice with this victory how not, the Bayern Munich club was defeated and this was revenge after a long wait.

Hans Flick is indeed a great coach... He knows how the opposing team's weaknesses because he has served there but now he is proving it in Barcelona and this victory is really surprising... What I thought would be a draw at the very least was a far cry from that.

This was really a very big win for Barcelona and Bayern Munich never expected that they will lose this big against them. Barcelona have been impressive from the start of this season and their team has a very good chance of getting it to the top of the table in the champions league. Bayern Munich are also a great team but they never saw this coming and it was a shocking one for them. Hansi Flick is doing very greatly well and I see him bringing back the lost glory of the team once again. They are well positioned for the least title and also has the chances of winning the La Liga alongside how their performance will tend to be in the champions league to know their probability of winning the title also.

Quote from: execijutiere on October 24, 2024, 01:12:02 PM

Manchester City comfortably defeated their opponents at home. Sparta Prague didn't do much in the match, but it's important to go to such a tough away game and at least put up a fight.

Manchester City was the better team even before this match was played. They outshined and outplayed their opponent because they got that quality that the opponent doesn’t have. Sparta Prague may be participating in the champions league, but they don’t even look like they’ll make it far this season in the champions league. But with what football is now, you cannot look down on any team no matter how small they are and how poorly they may be performing. To be on the same level with other big teams, Sparta Prague has to do more than they’re performing now.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on October 24, 2024, 01:40:16 PM

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While Hansi Flick was managing Bayern Munich he defeated Barcelona by 8-2. He as a Barcelona coach did a extraordinary work against Bayern Munich last night. Kompany still has a lot to learn. This image ESPN shared also looked quite funny to me.

This is about strategy and how you deal with pressure. Hansi Flick is an experienced coach and he can really direct his players to do their job properly. There is a weak side of Bayern Munich which Hansi Flick managed to exploit perfectly and that is the loss of focus in defense when Bayern Munich has the ambition to win.

Barcelona and Bayern Munich basically have a lot of main players injured, so it's not a big deal as to why Bayern Munich lost. Differences in strategy and individual quality of players are two things that support Barcelona's victory at home, even if they have many young players but their mentality on the field has been tested.

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I had predicted that Barcelona would end Bayern Munich's winning streak for 5 times in a row. My prediction when the match had only been going on for 20 minutes, it seemed like the match would be a draw even though in the 45th minute Barcelona led the match again with a score of 2-1.
Kane, who is known to be sharp in front of the opponent's goal, in that match, Kane was only able to release 3 shots with 43 touches.

If in La Liga Lewandowski is very sharp, in the match against Bayern Munich, that position was successfully carried out by Raphinha.
Raphinha managed to make Neuer at the end of the match with a rating in the bottom two after Kimmich.

Signs of Barcelona's revival were already visible after Raphinha scored the first goal after just one minute of the match. The Hansi Flick effect was very visible in this match from their playing pattern and the way they held back Bayern Munich attacks. Barcelona finally managed to beat Bayern Munich for the first time since 2015.

The sharpness of Barcelona's front line this season does not know who their opponent is, no one ever predicted that Barcelona would win this match with a landslide score because Bayern Munich is also in its best form. The four goals scored against Bayern Munich mean that Barcelona have scored 17 goals in the last four matches, this impressive record is a very good asset for them to face Real Madrid in the continuation of La Liga.

This win really shows that Barcelona is back to life. The early goal by Raphinha really lifted them up and set the perfect tone for the massive impact that embodies their style of play under the guidance of Hansi Flick. They not only repelled attacks from Bayern Munich, but did so with extraordinary sharpness in the front line. They look very solid and ready to face the next challenge, including El Clasico against Real Madrid.

Quote from: BABY SHOES on October 24, 2024, 12:56:12 PM

Damn...

Some Barcelona fan friends kept sending me footage of Barcelona winning by a landslide... He seemed to rejoice with this victory how not, the Bayern Munich club was defeated and this was revenge after a long wait.

Hans Flick is indeed a great coach... He knows how the opposing team's weaknesses because he has served there but now he is proving it in Barcelona and this victory is really surprising... What I thought would be a draw at the very least was a far cry from that.

It is quite justified that they are over the moon considering that Barcelona had not tasted a win against Bayern Munich for quite some time. Normally, whenever they meet, it’s Barcelona that is put to the sword. Therefore, this win is special, really special to the fans, more so because the score was fairly good. Indeed, Barca has finally had the chance to prove themselves, and that is after a long wait for the moment when they could get their revenge. All this under Hansi Flick, a man who clearly knows where Bayern can be hurt. Barca fans are so happy about this!

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Atletico Madrid started to look like they are really terrible at this point, and with a new contract for Simeone, I expected them to do better this season but they are looking quite terrible. I understand Lille beat Real Madrid too, but that was a shocking result to begin with, ATM losing to them as well makes no sense at all and we need to realize how terrible things could be for them on the long run as well if they keep losing like this.

Simeone has to take the team back to roots and make them work hard on defense, because getting three goals by Lille is not what Atletico Madrid is known for, they are known for their amazing defense and right now there is absolutely no defensive scheme that is working for them.

In the La Liga, we see that Atletico Madrid still seems to be doing well. And their performance has not decreased so far. It's just that I also think that their defense has weakened a bit this season. Especially in UCL matches. Even in the previous match against Benfica we saw Atletico Madrid really suffer a big defeat with a score of 4-0. Benfica really destroyed Atletico Madrid in that match. And now Lille has also managed to do the same thing against Atletico Madrid. And that's quite sad for a big team like Atletico Madrid, which usually always performs strongly in the UCL. And Atletico Madrid also has to face an opponent that looks like it will be more difficult in the next match in the UCL, namely against PSG. So Diego Simeone must immediately improve Atletico Madrid's defense if they want to make their team strong again.

Lille had two opportunities and scored six points against two big clubs in La Liga, Real Madrid and Athletico Madrid. I'm shocked that Lille defeated Athletico Madrid at home because I expected Athletico Madrid to get three points because they were playing at home, but they didn't help the fans win the game; they lost three points at home and are doing well in the league. Lille is in better shape in the Champions League, but they are not doing well in the league. If psg faces Athletico Madrid or Real Madrid, it will be difficult for them to win. However, in football, everything can happen. am impressed with Lille, if they can continue winning there games like this they can achieve what they are chasing. Athletico Madrid need to improve if they what to go long way in the Champions league this season because am not happy with the performance they played yesterday is was very poor. Let see what Athletico Madrid will play in there next game in the ucl or they will achieve the three point and continue chasing the top.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on October 24, 2024, 01:40:16 PM

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While Hansi Flick was managing Bayern Munich he defeated Barcelona by 8-2. He as a Barcelona coach did a extraordinary work against Bayern Munich last night. Kompany still has a lot to learn. This image ESPN shared also looked quite funny to me.

Bayern Munich used to punish the other teams and Barcelona defeat was an extraordinary example and used widely to criticise Barcelona and to show how good was Bayern Munich. Yesterday, the result was upsetting for Bayern fans and I assume Barcelona got its revenge since scoring 4 goals against Bayern Munich couldn't be considered as an easy job.
Kompany has to wake the team up because the position of Bayern Munich isn't good at all in UEFA Champions League with two defeats in two games.. Otherwise he might get sacked.

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Quote from: execijutiere on October 24, 2024, 06:34:49 AM

Atalanta and Celtic played to a goalless draw.I was surprised that Atalanta didn't score in this game.Although they played a dominant game against Celtic, they were ineffective in front of goal.I hope that Atalanta won't regret not winning this game in the coming weeks because 3 points are out of their hands.Celtic were not in the game at all.

I have watching this match that i have to says it was so boring because Celtic has displayed parking bus strategy that they were focused to their defense since the beginning of match and actually Atalanta has attempts to broke the defense of Celtic and they tried to attack from the right and left wings quite often but the defensive lines from Celtic is very solid and this makes Atalanta players were deadlock and i can see they seems frustrate because this result is not satisfied for them

Atalanta failed to utilize this match to earn 3 points and it is dissapointing because this result makes their chances to advances to the next round would be slim but for Celtic it is confirmed that their manager Brendan Rodgers feel very satisfied with the performance of Celtic players yesterday because before this match begin Rodgers know the strength of Atalanta as Europa League champion so he was targetting draw result from this match and his mission is accomplished

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The top three teams in the Champions League standings are currently filled with Premier League teams but interestingly, Aston Villa is at the top and second is Liverpool who also has the same acquisition as Aston Villa with 9 points and there is Manchester City in third position with 7 points. But, if for example Manchester City also managed to get three wins then Manchester City would be at the top of the table but unfortunately, Manchester City got two wins and a draw so far, while Aston Villa and Liverpool still managed with three consecutive wins.

But, maybe I was quite surprised about Liverpool in the away match against Leipzig because anyway, from the first half until the match ended that Liverpool still dominated the match. I thought, when Liverpool had taken the lead with a score of 0-1 it made Liverpool reduce the intensity of the attack, but the reality was not the case. Because anyway, in the second half also Liverpool still had a good intensity of attack, but Leipzig really managed to secure their goal so that Leipzig only lost with a thin score of 0-1.

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Quote from: rdluffy on October 24, 2024, 11:18:05 AM

Yesterday I almost managed to win 500 or 1000 dollars on a bet Shocked

, which I predicted 46 goals in total in the 3rd round
Unfortunately the round had 51 goals, and I lost the bet

It seems that Harry Kane isn't very lucky, Bayern are doing badly in the Champions League and may not even qualify Tongue

Their next opponents are Benfica and PSG, so it won't be easy.
I was very surprised that the German team conceded 4 goals to Barcelona

Same buddy I have the same goal score as you but unfortunately still unlucky. LOL
Too many surprising matches with huge goal counts until all 3rd round match goals are over 50 goals.

I don't know how he will fare at Bayern Munich because the move to Bayern Munich would have been for a trophy but they have lost to Aston Villa and Barcelona making his position in the UCL plummet.
Indeed PSG and Benfica are not easy opponents at least we predict Bayern Munich can win with the rest of the match.

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While Hansi Flick was managing Bayern Munich he defeated Barcelona by 8-2. He as a Barcelona coach did a extraordinary work against Bayern Munich last night. Kompany still has a lot to learn. This image ESPN shared also looked quite funny to me.

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Quote from: execijutiere on October 24, 2024, 01:12:02 PM

Manchester City comfortably defeated their opponents at home. Sparta Prague didn't do much in the match, but it's important to go to such a tough away game and at least put up a fight.
Salzburg should not have lost at home. Salzburg didn't play very well in the match as they lost 2-0 against Dinamo Zagreb. Zagreb scored at the start of the second half and were even more relieved when they were reduced to 10 men.

Yes, this easy victory is very reasonable for Man City. Sparta, a team that is not a match for Man City, they were unable to provide a surprise or at least score 1 goal, indeed their strength is only that much so I have to respect their resistance yesterday. Salzburg's mistake was that one of their players received a red card. With the condition of being 1 goal behind the opponent which would affect the pattern of play they apply, and actually if the red card did not come out of the referee's pocket they had a chance to equalize the score as seen from their ability to match Dinamo Zagreb's game. I call Salzburg unlucky.

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Quote from: execijutiere on October 24, 2024, 01:12:02 PM

Manchester City comfortably defeated their opponents at home. Sparta Prague didn't do much in the match, but it's important to go to such a tough away game and at least put up a fight. [...]

From any angle, the match between the two teams isn't balanced, so it is natural that Manchester City can win easily even with a big score + clean sheet. Sparta Prague players looked frustrated with the 20% possession they had, well, at least they did the best they could.

Quote from: execijutiere on October 24, 2024, 01:12:02 PM

[...] Salzburg should not have lost at home. Salzburg didn't play very well in the match as they lost 2-0 against Dinamo Zagreb. Zagreb scored at the start of the second half and were even more relieved when they were reduced to 10 men.

Watching Salzburg play, i saw they were not playing at home & more like playing away. They lacked courage, very disappointed to see this match. The red card should not be an excuse for them, it came long after Dinamo Zagreb had 1 goal which means it was basically Salzburg who failed.

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Manchester City comfortably defeated their opponents at home. Sparta Prague didn't do much in the match, but it's important to go to such a tough away game and at least put up a fight.
Salzburg should not have lost at home. Salzburg didn't play very well in the match as they lost 2-0 against Dinamo Zagreb. Zagreb scored at the start of the second half and were even more relieved when they were reduced to 10 men.

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I'm quite excited after watching this brilliant display from the Barce side today. Real Madrid did theirs yesterday, and today, barce decided to amaze us. Flick literally made the whole age thing just a number. The quality in today's game was top notch. I felt that barce should have score more than 4, but lewandowski wasn't at his best today. Raphina who has been criticized so many times last season, continue with his brilliant performance this season, and I saw that tonight. I think that captain hand band should remain with him, because he seem to be more confident with his leadership row.

Even when Bayern had the ball in most occasion, Barce literally toyed with them when they are on the ball. The good thing with Barce in this game is the quality of one-two passes that they make. And, I'm not sure why Kompany decide to start mullar ahead of musiala today. Musiala had better impact when he was Sub in, better than mullar that started the game. Congrats to Barce. Now my anticipation is now shifted to this coming weekend, when we will see them facing madrid.

Many people were surprised by the results of the match because in reality Bayern Munich came with a lot of experience from most of its players. Kane is a fearsome center forward, but he couldn't do much despite scoring in the first half. Bayern Munich were too late in Barcelona's game for too long and that made them let their guard down in defense.

I welcome the changes that Hansi Flick has brought to Barcelona and of course this is a win that breaks the record for meetings between the two teams. Barcelona has had a bad record against Bayern, even as long as Messi is there that record remains bad. But now, Barcelona, which has many young players, has managed to beat Bayern Munich hard.

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