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Quote from: justdimin on October 12, 2021, 04:55:54 PM

Premier league has a great success because they are viewed in a lot more nations, and they get a lot more money involved as well. I do not know where all this billions of dollars come from aside from selling your club to some rich person, but they do have a lot of money. When you have a lot of money that means your income is good and when your income is good then you can pay for high salaries and when you can pay for high salaries then you can get any player you want.

Look at United, they had zero interest on Ronaldo when the season started because they believed he wasn't available, he would be in Juventus but the moment he got available they just paid whatever and then gave him whatever salary and moved on, they had literally extra money aside to make that move, 99.99% of the teams on the world wouldn't even have been able to do that financially let alone convince Ronaldo to come.

Currently, English Premier League is world's most soccer league and just because of this they have good income from media right and after this there are some good investors now involved in which are putting Billions of USD for their own sack just because of this they have some good income, but one thing is sure Europe's top 5 leagues have not big difference because I was checking few statics it is showing England, Italy, Germany.

Spain and France are currently top ranked, but England is going with good advantage mostly just because of English way but Barcelona, Real Madrid and Bayern Munch are also not bad at all they have some good income as well.

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Quote from: hahay on October 12, 2021, 08:45:36 PM

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Quote from: Luzin on October 11, 2021, 11:00:55 AM

They become angels of death. They managed to kill Madrid and Shaktar. I don't think it's luck, but thanks to hard work. But it could also be because Madrid and Shaktar underestimate him too much.

I don't think Real Madrid and Shakhtar got loses because they underestimate Sheriff. Sheriff won because they played well and be confident without any pressure. Sometimes, once you play nothing to lose, you can optimize the chance to win. While those teams that play with too high expectation, can be defeated since losing focus and control during the match. That's probably happening to Real Madrid and Shakhtar.

Yes, whether it was due to luck or underestimation what is certain is that the Sheriff can do it with good hard work during the game. But if the Sheriffs can still win against Inter, then maybe I'd say it's a miracle created by their own hard work. I'm just curious what the final standings of this group will be, because previously we all agreed that the Sheriff would only be an opportunity for the other 3 teams to gain points, but what happened was the opposite and of course we were all surprised by the result.

So far I personally consider the sheriff's two wins to be a stroke of luck, especially since Madrid are clearly very weak in their defense this season, so I really agree to see the results of the sheriff match against Inter as an answer to what we've been debating all this time.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on October 12, 2021, 06:25:16 PM

I don't think Real Madrid and Shakhtar got loses because they underestimate Sheriff. Sheriff won because they played well and be confident without any pressure. Sometimes, once you play nothing to lose, you can optimize the chance to win. While those teams that play with too high expectation, can be defeated since losing focus and control during the match. That's probably happening to Real Madrid and Shakhtar.

Maybe madrid knows all I'm just trying to guess. Because they are from a small league with few participants. Besides, what you say about high expectations because they are debutants could be the start of their underestimating the Sheriff. There will still be a lot of matches, let's see their consistency. If at the end they make it through to the knockout stages then it will be a surprise and I think they will make one of the big clubs fail.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on October 13, 2021, 12:15:11 AM

The Sheriff is an extraordinary team. All the players on the team are very hardworking. And through hard work they are now a team strong enough. I don't think they will win against Inter Milan. Because Inter Milan is an experienced team and at the same time they are very strong. Since Sheriff is in a good position on the points table. So they will want to draw this match and maintain their top spot in the points table

It is very possible for the Sheriff to target a draw because playing at the opponent's home and facing with a strong enough team is not easy to win so a draw is already a good thing for them, but it is not impossible that they will continue the winning trend and get full points, even though Inter are strong team but in UCL they haven't shown good results, only being able to get 1 point from 2 matches. For Inter this is a chance to get 3 point.

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Quote from: hahay on October 12, 2021, 08:45:36 PM

Quote from: kawetsriyanto on October 12, 2021, 06:25:16 PM

Quote from: Luzin on October 11, 2021, 11:00:55 AM

They become angels of death. They managed to kill Madrid and Shaktar. I don't think it's luck, but thanks to hard work. But it could also be because Madrid and Shaktar underestimate him too much.

I don't think Real Madrid and Shakhtar got loses because they underestimate Sheriff. Sheriff won because they played well and be confident without any pressure. Sometimes, once you play nothing to lose, you can optimize the chance to win. While those teams that play with too high expectation, can be defeated since losing focus and control during the match. That's probably happening to Real Madrid and Shakhtar.

Yes, whether it was due to luck or underestimation what is certain is that the Sheriff can do it with good hard work during the game. But if the Sheriffs can still win against Inter, then maybe I'd say it's a miracle created by their own hard work. I'm just curious what the final standings of this group will be, because previously we all agreed that the Sheriff would only be an opportunity for the other 3 teams to gain points, but what happened was the opposite and of course we were all surprised by the result.

The Sheriff is an extraordinary team. All the players on the team are very hardworking. And through hard work they are now a team strong enough. I don't think they will win against Inter Milan. Because Inter Milan is an experienced team and at the same time they are very strong. Since Sheriff is in a good position on the points table. So they will want to draw this match and maintain their top spot in the points table

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on October 12, 2021, 06:25:16 PM

Quote from: Luzin on October 11, 2021, 11:00:55 AM

They become angels of death. They managed to kill Madrid and Shaktar. I don't think it's luck, but thanks to hard work. But it could also be because Madrid and Shaktar underestimate him too much.

I don't think Real Madrid and Shakhtar got loses because they underestimate Sheriff. Sheriff won because they played well and be confident without any pressure. Sometimes, once you play nothing to lose, you can optimize the chance to win. While those teams that play with too high expectation, can be defeated since losing focus and control during the match. That's probably happening to Real Madrid and Shakhtar.

Yes, whether it was due to luck or underestimation what is certain is that the Sheriff can do it with good hard work during the game. But if the Sheriffs can still win against Inter, then maybe I'd say it's a miracle created by their own hard work. I'm just curious what the final standings of this group will be, because previously we all agreed that the Sheriff would only be an opportunity for the other 3 teams to gain points, but what happened was the opposite and of course we were all surprised by the result.

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Quote from: Luzin on October 11, 2021, 11:00:55 AM

They become angels of death. They managed to kill Madrid and Shaktar. I don't think it's luck, but thanks to hard work. But it could also be because Madrid and Shaktar underestimate him too much.

I don't think Real Madrid and Shakhtar got loses because they underestimate Sheriff. Sheriff won because they played well and be confident without any pressure. Sometimes, once you play nothing to lose, you can optimize the chance to win. While those teams that play with too high expectation, can be defeated since losing focus and control during the match. That's probably happening to Real Madrid and Shakhtar.

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Premier league has a great success because they are viewed in a lot more nations, and they get a lot more money involved as well. I do not know where all this billions of dollars come from aside from selling your club to some rich person, but they do have a lot of money. When you have a lot of money that means your income is good and when your income is good then you can pay for high salaries and when you can pay for high salaries then you can get any player you want.

Look at United, they had zero interest on Ronaldo when the season started because they believed he wasn't available, he would be in Juventus but the moment he got available they just paid whatever and then gave him whatever salary and moved on, they had literally extra money aside to make that move, 99.99% of the teams on the world wouldn't even have been able to do that financially let alone convince Ronaldo to come.

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Quote from: joker_josue on October 12, 2021, 01:57:39 AM

Which English clubs do you think you have a chance of winning?

Actually I'm a Manchester United fan for the EPL. So maybe I will choose Manchester United to win. But there are still a lot of doubts because they haven't been able to stabilize with Ole. If this continues I think they will lose to Chelsea, Man City or Liverpool maybe they are more favourites. And of course the strongest may be Man City at this time. But in the winter it looks like Manchester United are planning to buy Haaland, even Haaland is their main target.

Source: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/haaland-manchester-united-season-predicted-21188729

I am not going with you here as I am feeling Manchester United is good team but still not able to have won this mega event because they are facing some issues which need to fix, but their coach's strategy is not working for them even they have some good number of quality players in their squad.

Their best chance is staying in top four for Premier League and have some good end in Champions League because after shocking defeat against Young Boys and very narrow win against Vilareal is not having good impact for them. If they are able to reach in top four in Champions League, this could be great for them.

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Quote from: hahay on October 12, 2021, 02:42:46 AM

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Atlético Madrid is massive and good club in last few years Diego Simeone done very good job for them, and they have very good time in La Liga but right now few English Premier League clubs are much better and have quality to beat any team for this year's title right now I am feeling we can't give any prediction, but I am having personal view 3 English clubs are hot favourite for winning this year's title in Champions League even PSG is also excellent but still they need something big miracle for win in current season. Other than from these clubs we have just one team, and we all know it's just Bayern Munich who is capable of winning, others are not competitive like them in this competition.

I agree that no Spanish club managed to win the Champions League this year. PSG despite their great efforts, I think it's the same thing, something is missing that tells me they shouldn't be able to win. Bayern Munich is always the same thing, it will always be a difficulty for someone and a chance to reach the final.

Which English clubs do you think you have a chance of winning?

Manchester City, Liverpool and Chelsea are the current strong teams that come from the EPL which they may also be strong candidates to reach the final round later. About PSG I'm not sure they will go further because for me, their coach still hasn't been able to take advantage of the squad they have. The only big obstacle is that I agree about Bayern Munich, this team always looks great in every game and even with their discipline, Bayern Munich has not conceded so far but with more goals.

Here I am going with these three teams as well because these all are in good shape and have better chance of winning this year's title but for me the strongest team is Liverpool and then Chelsea because they both have excellent time even these two can go for double as well because Right now I love their way and aggression which is very important for any title. If some serious trouble or injury not happened, then surely we will have two big titles between these two teams. Both coaches are capable of handling things in all situations and have really the best quality players.
Bayern is every time best in business and for PSG and Manchester City both have to wait for some more time because Champions League is still not in their reach.

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Manchester City will play with Club Brugge on matchday 3. It looks like an easy game for Manchester City. Maybe the city can easily win. But let us not forget that PSG drew 1-1 with Club Brugge. And Brugge's players performed exceptionally well. If they can do the same against Manchester City, it will undoubtedly be challenging for City to win. Still my prediction is that Manchester City will win 2-1

I expect City to score 3-5 goals in this match. Perhaps PSG simply underestimated the opponent and paid for it with a draw. City will be able to get conclusions from this match, and will approach the match with Brugge, with all seriousness. I expect a confident victory from Manchester City with a large amount of scored goals.

I don't think Manchester City can score more than 3 goals. Don't think Club Brugge is a weak team. At least I don't think so. I saw their performance against PSG. I admit that PSG has performed poorly. But Brugge played great. They were able to attack something extraordinary. If Navas had not performed well, PSG would have had to concede many goals. Only PSG survived for Navas, otherwise they would have been embarrassingly defeated.

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Quote from: joker_josue on October 12, 2021, 01:57:39 AM

Which English clubs do you think you have a chance of winning?

Actually I'm a Manchester United fan for the EPL. So maybe I will choose Manchester United to win. But there are still a lot of doubts because they haven't been able to stabilize with Ole. If this continues I think they will lose to Chelsea, Man City or Liverpool maybe they are more favourites. And of course the strongest may be Man City at this time. But in the winter it looks like Manchester United are planning to buy Haaland, even Haaland is their main target.

Source: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/haaland-manchester-united-season-predicted-21188729

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Quote from: borovichok on October 12, 2021, 07:46:16 AM

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Instead, I expect that Sheriff can beat Inter Milan, then they will lead Group D with 6 points. While Real Madrid can get 3 points against Shakhtar Donetsk. So, with that result, Sheriff is qualified to the next stage, while Real Madrid has a chance to be qualified. To be honest, I want to see Sheriff and Real Madrid can continue to the next stage. It will be interesting if we can see Sheriff to eliminate big teams in UCL.

They become angels of death. They managed to kill Madrid and Shaktar. I don't think it's luck, but thanks to hard work. But it could also be because Madrid and Shaktar underestimate him too much. If the Sheriff is able to make it through to the next round I think that's history for Moldova. Just imagine that their league is actually only followed by 8 clubs, now the Sheriff is in 3rd place in the league. But the chances for Madrid and Inter to qualify are still very big. Next week we have only entered week three. So maybe everything will change.

Sheriff will not go through to the next round,Inter Milan will not underestimate them seeing what they did to Madrid,inter Milan is not a small club,they will win sheriff both home and away,so I think they(inter) and Madrid we go to the next stage.sheriff if they matain their high level of performance I think they will earn a 3rd place finish, that we see them to Europa and they should be proud of that.

Inter is obviously a better and bigger club than Sheriff but so is Real Madrid, right? But look what they did to Real in their own home. Real got destroyed 1-2 over there. I think that Sheriff could be a small club with no big game players but they are playing very well coordinated as team whole team which gave them the wins against Real Madrid and Shakhtar. If I'm not wrong, they even beat Spartak Moscow earlier. But what I'm trying to say is, their team-oriented game is very good which could give a hard time to Inter.

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Quote from: Luzin on October 11, 2021, 11:00:55 AM

Quote from: kawetsriyanto on October 10, 2021, 06:17:36 PM

Instead, I expect that Sheriff can beat Inter Milan, then they will lead Group D with 6 points. While Real Madrid can get 3 points against Shakhtar Donetsk. So, with that result, Sheriff is qualified to the next stage, while Real Madrid has a chance to be qualified. To be honest, I want to see Sheriff and Real Madrid can continue to the next stage. It will be interesting if we can see Sheriff to eliminate big teams in UCL.

They become angels of death. They managed to kill Madrid and Shaktar. I don't think it's luck, but thanks to hard work. But it could also be because Madrid and Shaktar underestimate him too much. If the Sheriff is able to make it through to the next round I think that's history for Moldova. Just imagine that their league is actually only followed by 8 clubs, now the Sheriff is in 3rd place in the league. But the chances for Madrid and Inter to qualify are still very big. Next week we have only entered week three. So maybe everything will change.

Sheriff will not go through to the next round,Inter Milan will not underestimate them seeing what they did to Madrid,inter Milan is not a small club,they will win sheriff both home and away,so I think they(inter) and Madrid we go to the next stage.sheriff if they matain their high level of performance I think they will earn a 3rd place finish, that we see them to Europa and they should be proud of that.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on October 12, 2021, 06:26:26 AM

Manchester City will play with Club Brugge on matchday 3. It looks like an easy game for Manchester City. Maybe the city can easily win. But let us not forget that PSG drew 1-1 with Club Brugge. And Brugge's players performed exceptionally well. If they can do the same against Manchester City, it will undoubtedly be challenging for City to win. Still my prediction is that Manchester City will win 2-1

I expect City to score 3-5 goals in this match. Perhaps PSG simply underestimated the opponent and paid for it with a draw. City will be able to get conclusions from this match, and will approach the match with Brugge, with all seriousness. I expect a confident victory from Manchester City with a large amount of scored goals.

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By what parameters did you determine that now the EPL teams have an advantage over the La Liga teams? The failure of one team (Barcelona) does not mean that the others have also become weaker, on the contrary, for example, ATM even strengthened by getting Griezmann. I can believe that City is a little stronger than ATM, but not Liverpool.

I wouldn't say Griezmann has greatly strengthened Atletico. On paper, yes, but he hasn't shown it yet. He is also already heavily criticized. I agree that Atletico is currently stronger than Barca and in my opinion also stronger than Real, but it is more due to the team and the coach, not individual stars.

Atletico plays football on a defensive basis, so Griezmann could hardly have been expected to score many goals. Last season, when Atletico became the champion, the team's top scorer Suarez scored just 21 goals which is very little for the Spanish championship. I do not think that Griezmann will be able to score more, the main thing is that he helps the team win the championship and successfully play in the Champions League - ho will it be we will see later.

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Manchester City will play with Club Brugge on matchday 3. It looks like an easy game for Manchester City. Maybe the city can easily win. But let us not forget that PSG drew 1-1 with Club Brugge. And Brugge's players performed exceptionally well. If they can do the same against Manchester City, it will undoubtedly be challenging for City to win. Still my prediction is that Manchester City will win 2-1

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Quote from: hahay on October 12, 2021, 02:42:46 AM

Manchester City, Liverpool and Chelsea are the current strong teams that come from the EPL which they may also be strong candidates to reach the final round later. About PSG I'm not sure they will go further because for me, their coach still hasn't been able to take advantage of the squad they have.

My idea is that Liverpool and Chelsea are in the best position right now. Manchester City and Manchester United are not in a good position to win the Champions League. If they do not perform better in the future, they will fall behind in the title fight. PSG's performance is still erratic. But day by day they are improving themselves, the team is stabilizing. The chemistry among the players is getting better. Which will make them stronger.

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Quote from: joker_josue on October 12, 2021, 01:57:39 AM

Quote from: GbitG on October 11, 2021, 06:59:08 PM

Atlético Madrid is massive and good club in last few years Diego Simeone done very good job for them, and they have very good time in La Liga but right now few English Premier League clubs are much better and have quality to beat any team for this year's title right now I am feeling we can't give any prediction, but I am having personal view 3 English clubs are hot favourite for winning this year's title in Champions League even PSG is also excellent but still they need something big miracle for win in current season. Other than from these clubs we have just one team, and we all know it's just Bayern Munich who is capable of winning, others are not competitive like them in this competition.

I agree that no Spanish club managed to win the Champions League this year. PSG despite their great efforts, I think it's the same thing, something is missing that tells me they shouldn't be able to win. Bayern Munich is always the same thing, it will always be a difficulty for someone and a chance to reach the final.

Which English clubs do you think you have a chance of winning?

Manchester City, Liverpool and Chelsea are the current strong teams that come from the EPL which they may also be strong candidates to reach the final round later. About PSG I'm not sure they will go further because for me, their coach still hasn't been able to take advantage of the squad they have. The only big obstacle is that I agree about Bayern Munich, this team always looks great in every game and even with their discipline, Bayern Munich has not conceded so far but with more goals.

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Quote from: GbitG on October 11, 2021, 06:59:08 PM

Atlético Madrid is massive and good club in last few years Diego Simeone done very good job for them, and they have very good time in La Liga but right now few English Premier League clubs are much better and have quality to beat any team for this year's title right now I am feeling we can't give any prediction, but I am having personal view 3 English clubs are hot favourite for winning this year's title in Champions League even PSG is also excellent but still they need something big miracle for win in current season. Other than from these clubs we have just one team, and we all know it's just Bayern Munich who is capable of winning, others are not competitive like them in this competition.

I agree that no Spanish club managed to win the Champions League this year. PSG despite their great efforts, I think it's the same thing, something is missing that tells me they shouldn't be able to win. Bayern Munich is always the same thing, it will always be a difficulty for someone and a chance to reach the final.

Which English clubs do you think you have a chance of winning?

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