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Quote from: AndySt on October 11, 2021, 06:42:36 PM

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Quote from: KTChampions on October 10, 2021, 08:24:54 AM

ATM even strengthened by getting Griezmann.

I wouldn't say Griezmann has greatly strengthened Atletico. On paper, yes, but he hasn't shown it yet. He is also already heavily criticized. I agree that Atletico is currently stronger than Barca and in my opinion also stronger than Real, but it is more due to the team and the coach, not individual stars.

I avoided to place a comment about this specific point of Griezmann strengthening ATM because I know if I said it, he might be the star of that game Tongue

Until now, Griezmann didn't show something special, just like Messi in PSG, you wait to see big achievement but you end up with disappointmen..
Overall, EPL teams are better than La Liga ones thanks to the power of money. Except Real Madrid, Barca ATM and Sevilla won't have easy time clearing the way to the finals imo. I feel it will be EPL teams vs Bayern and PSG.

The strength of Atletico Madrid is in the team game and the club has the only superstar who constantly makes a decent result and you know the name of this person perfectly well Wink

This is Diego Simeone Grin

I would not be surprised at all if Atletico Madrid still gets to the Champions League semi-finals, although given the current transfer affairs and budgets, this time everything looks much more complicated and the English clubs have a considerable advantage.

Atlético Madrid is massive and good club in last few years Diego Simeone done very good job for them, and they have very good time in La Liga but right now few English Premier League clubs are much better and have quality to beat any team for this year's title right now I am feeling we can't give any prediction, but I am having personal view 3 English clubs are hot favourite for winning this year's title in Champions League even PSG is also excellent but still they need something big miracle for win in current season. Other than from these clubs we have just one team, and we all know it's just Bayern Munich who is capable of winning, others are not competitive like them in this competition.

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Quote from: snipie on October 11, 2021, 12:49:56 PM

Quote from: tyz on October 11, 2021, 06:36:00 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on October 10, 2021, 08:24:54 AM

ATM even strengthened by getting Griezmann.

I wouldn't say Griezmann has greatly strengthened Atletico. On paper, yes, but he hasn't shown it yet. He is also already heavily criticized. I agree that Atletico is currently stronger than Barca and in my opinion also stronger than Real, but it is more due to the team and the coach, not individual stars.

I avoided to place a comment about this specific point of Griezmann strengthening ATM because I know if I said it, he might be the star of that game Tongue

Until now, Griezmann didn't show something special, just like Messi in PSG, you wait to see big achievement but you end up with disappointmen..
Overall, EPL teams are better than La Liga ones thanks to the power of money. Except Real Madrid, Barca ATM and Sevilla won't have easy time clearing the way to the finals imo. I feel it will be EPL teams vs Bayern and PSG.

The strength of Atletico Madrid is in the team game and the club has the only superstar who constantly makes a decent result and you know the name of this person perfectly well Wink

This is Diego Simeone Grin

I would not be surprised at all if Atletico Madrid still gets to the Champions League semi-finals, although given the current transfer affairs and budgets, this time everything looks much more complicated and the English clubs have a considerable advantage. By the way, English clubs should hurry up in winning titles while Newcastle, which is at the bottom, is just beginning to gain its future power and strength after the purchase of the club by the Saudi owners Grin

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Quote from: judas on October 11, 2021, 01:17:23 PM

Sheriff Tiraspol have drawn all the attention to themselves in this competition as they have had very striking results in their first two games. Winning against a strong team like Real Madrid away is a really huge feat for them. Their next opponent is Inter. So far, Inter have got bad results in their group games. They will want to get their first win finally. This is another tough away game for Sheriff. I assume that there will be so many people who will give Sheriff a chance by placing a bet on them. But this time, I think that they will lose.

Prior to winning Madrid, I hadn't heard about Sheriff before, not even their National league/Division. I admire their courage to take on the big guns at Madrid without fear but it's also a clear indication that Madrid is done for. Sheriff is actually doing very well for themselves. For a team that doesn't feature regularly in the UCL, they have done relatively well. What would be more interesting to see is for them to make it out of that group to knockout stage and Madrid gets eliminated. Haha Cheesy

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Quote from: judas on October 11, 2021, 01:17:23 PM

Sheriff Tiraspol have drawn all the attention to themselves in this competition as they have had very striking results in their first two games. Winning against a strong team like Real Madrid away is a really huge feat for them. Their next opponent is Inter. So far, Inter have got bad results in their group games. They will want to get their first win finally. This is another tough away game for Sheriff. I assume that there will be so many people who will give Sheriff a chance by placing a bet on them. But this time, I think that they will lose.

I think so too. The game starts on 19.10. and both teams play this Saturday in the league. They are both strong games, no one can rest. Both teams have performed well in the last 10 games, but Inter Milan will have to win the game, if they want to get to the next round. I think they are going full risk in the game, anything else would not be professional and that is not enough for the Champions League.

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Sheriff Tiraspol have drawn all the attention to themselves in this competition as they have had very striking results in their first two games. Winning against a strong team like Real Madrid away is a really huge feat for them. Their next opponent is Inter. So far, Inter have got bad results in their group games. They will want to get their first win finally. This is another tough away game for Sheriff. I assume that there will be so many people who will give Sheriff a chance by placing a bet on them. But this time, I think that they will lose.

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Quote from: Luzin on October 11, 2021, 11:00:55 AM

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Instead, I expect that Sheriff can beat Inter Milan, then they will lead Group D with 6 points. While Real Madrid can get 3 points against Shakhtar Donetsk. So, with that result, Sheriff is qualified to the next stage, while Real Madrid has a chance to be qualified. To be honest, I want to see Sheriff and Real Madrid can continue to the next stage. It will be interesting if we can see Sheriff to eliminate big teams in UCL.

They become angels of death. They managed to kill Madrid and Shaktar. I don't think it's luck, but thanks to hard work. But it could also be because Madrid and Shaktar underestimate him too much. If the Sheriff is able to make it through to the next round I think that's history for Moldova. Just imagine that their league is actually only followed by 8 clubs, now the Sheriff is in 3rd place in the league. But the chances for Madrid and Inter to qualify are still very big. Next week we have only entered week three. So maybe everything will change.

As a Real Madrid fan, I definitely want them to qualify. And in addition to that, I would really love it if Sheriff can even qualify for the next round. Beating Real in their home is not an easy task, that too against a full squad of Real. They have also managed to beat Shakhtar. So I would love a Sheriff fantasy CL run and maybe win 1 or 2 matches in the following rounds.

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Quote from: tyz on October 11, 2021, 06:36:00 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on October 10, 2021, 08:24:54 AM

ATM even strengthened by getting Griezmann.

I wouldn't say Griezmann has greatly strengthened Atletico. On paper, yes, but he hasn't shown it yet. He is also already heavily criticized. I agree that Atletico is currently stronger than Barca and in my opinion also stronger than Real, but it is more due to the team and the coach, not individual stars.

I avoided to place a comment about this specific point of Griezmann strengthening ATM because I know if I said it, he might be the star of that game Tongue

Until now, Griezmann didn't show something special, just like Messi in PSG, you wait to see big achievement but you end up with disappointmen..
Overall, EPL teams are better than La Liga ones thanks to the power of money. Except Real Madrid, Barca ATM and Sevilla won't have easy time clearing the way to the finals imo. I feel it will be EPL teams vs Bayern and PSG.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on October 10, 2021, 06:17:36 PM

Instead, I expect that Sheriff can beat Inter Milan, then they will lead Group D with 6 points. While Real Madrid can get 3 points against Shakhtar Donetsk. So, with that result, Sheriff is qualified to the next stage, while Real Madrid has a chance to be qualified. To be honest, I want to see Sheriff and Real Madrid can continue to the next stage. It will be interesting if we can see Sheriff to eliminate big teams in UCL.

They become angels of death. They managed to kill Madrid and Shaktar. I don't think it's luck, but thanks to hard work. But it could also be because Madrid and Shaktar underestimate him too much. If the Sheriff is able to make it through to the next round I think that's history for Moldova. Just imagine that their league is actually only followed by 8 clubs, now the Sheriff is in 3rd place in the league. But the chances for Madrid and Inter to qualify are still very big. Next week we have only entered week three. So maybe everything will change.

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Quote from: KTChampions on October 10, 2021, 08:24:54 AM

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Just a heads-up. Champion's league is something else from local leagues like La liga or English Premier League. Just because a team is doing well in La Liga or EPL doesn't mean they have an Upper hand in UCL.

Right now, as it looks, EPL teams seem to have an upper hand in terms of relative strength as compared to la Liga teams (please note that I am a Liga fan)

By what parameters did you determine that now the EPL teams have an advantage over the La Liga teams? The failure of one team (Barcelona) does not mean that the others have also become weaker, on the contrary, for example, ATM even strengthened by getting Griezmann. I can believe that City is a little stronger than ATM, but not Liverpool.

I wouldn't say Griezmann has greatly strengthened Atletico. On paper, yes, but he hasn't shown it yet. He is also already heavily criticized. I agree that Atletico is currently stronger than Barca and in my opinion also stronger than Real, but it is more due to the team and the coach, not individual stars.

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Quote from: Maidak on October 11, 2021, 03:18:28 AM

I don't think Ole Gunnar Solskjar is a bad coach. Maybe he’s not a legendary coach like Klopp and Guardiola. But I can't call him a bad coach.

I agree with you. We cannot judge Ole as a bad coach because he failed in a few matches only, we must remember that the season isn't over yet. Ole still has a chance to win EPL or UCL title, they still have many remaining matches. Just give him the chance to show haters that he knows how to manage Man United well. It is not easy to build a team like Man United to be as strong as expected. Even there is no guarantee that a legendary coach like Klopp or Guardiola can be easy to manage Man united.

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Quote from: D-law on October 11, 2021, 01:41:52 AM

Manchester United is not doing good, they don't have a good Coach.
Get klopp or Pep Guardiola in Manchester United, and see if they won't get the job done.
The fans are hungry, they deserve Trophies this season,if not the premier league in particular.
I don't think Manchester United board has plans sacking Ole Gunner Solskjaer.
It irks me thinking about it.
It's not really how good premier league teams are doing in the Champions League, yeah Chelsea got to win the last one, can they successfully defend it again ?
Los blancos side Real Madrid did this some years back.

I don't think Ole Gunnar Solskjar is a bad coach. Maybe he’s not a legendary coach like Klopp and Guardiola. But I can't call him a bad coach. He is also experienced enough. And this season Manchester United started very well. As a team, the players were performing exceptionally well. After Ronaldo joined the team, their team is having some internal problems. Hopefully Ole will try to solve the problems very soon.

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Quote from: BALIK on October 10, 2021, 03:07:36 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on October 10, 2021, 08:24:54 AM

Quote from: JeromeTash on October 09, 2021, 04:59:57 PM

Just a heads-up. Champion's league is something else from local leagues like La liga or English Premier League. Just because a team is doing well in La Liga or EPL doesn't mean they have an Upper hand in UCL.
Right now, as it looks, EPL teams seem to have an upper hand in terms of relative strength as compared to la Liga teams (please note that I am a Liga fan)

By what parameters did you determine that now the EPL teams have an advantage over the La Liga teams? The failure of one team (Barcelona) does not mean that the others have also become weaker, on the contrary, for example, ATM even strengthened by getting Griezmann. I can believe that City is a little stronger than ATM, but not Liverpool.

I also think that EPL teams in general have more strength than La Liga teams. Barcelona has already been nerfed without Messi and so is Real Madrid. After Ramos and Varane left, they are exposed in the back. In the meantime, teams like Utd, City, Chelsea have gotten so much better. Also not to forget Liverpool. They are also playing quite well. So all in all, I feel like EPL teams are somewhat better than La Liga teams in the CL.

Manchester United is not doing good, they don't have a good Coach.
Get klopp or Pep Guardiola in Manchester United, and see if they won't get the job done.
The fans are hungry, they deserve Trophies this season,if not the premier league in particular.
I don't think Manchester United board has plans sacking Ole Gunner Solskjaer.
It irks me thinking about it.
It's not really how good premier league teams are doing in the Champions League, yeah Chelsea got to win the last one, can they successfully defend it again ?
Los blancos side Real Madrid did this some years back.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on October 10, 2021, 04:28:13 PM

One of the most interesting games seem like Inter - Sheriff Tiraspol in the round 3 of the tournament. As we all have mentioned so far, Sheriff Tiraspol have been an eye-catching team with the results they have got until this point. They are the surprise leader of the group by 6 points. Inter have only 1 point now. They lost to Real Madrid and drew with Shakhtar in a goalless game also. They want a win so bad. Maybe Sheriff made a big surprise against Real Madrid but I think that this is the end of the road for them. I expect Inter to get a solid win. Bookmakers might earn a lot of money as I expect that there will be a lot of people who will give a chance to Sheriff and bet on them.

Most chances now time is run out for Sheriff Tiraspol because they already have enough surprises in this season now back to business and Inter is going to win both home and away matches because now they need these wins for staying in hunt for next round and Sheriff Tiraspol is already done for their qualification in Europa League.

This is fact after having 2 wins now people's feeling this is going to be another big win for visitors but now time for bookmakers to have some good profit from this because we already have enough surprises in this season and in this round now It's going to be ended.

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Quote from: Slow death on October 10, 2021, 05:38:37 PM

Quote from: Pulsar77 on October 10, 2021, 04:28:13 PM

One of the most interesting games seem like Inter - Sheriff Tiraspol in the round 3 of the tournament.

so far i can't believe that real madrid has lost to the sheriff, i hope that inter doesn't lose to the sheriff, it's unbelievable that the sheriff has 6 points even being in a group that has 3 strong teams they are in first place with 6 points . I call it luck, the real madrid is inconsistent and the shaktar who has scored a lot of goals in their league can't score in the champions league, it's strange

Indeed, when I look at D groups like unusual, Madrid and Inter are big clubs whichever as champions but playing badly on events. shall we see a surprise, both are not qualified for the next round?. even though it's still long to get the results, but with their performance, we can get statistics if they are in big trouble.

Shakhtar vs Madrid - Oct,19.
Inter vs Sherif - Oct,19.

Maybe Ancelotti's position will be changed when losing again.

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I also think that EPL teams in general have more strength than La Liga teams. Barcelona has already been nerfed without Messi and so is Real Madrid. After Ramos and Varane left, they are exposed in the back. In the meantime, teams like Utd, City, Chelsea have gotten so much better. Also not to forget Liverpool. They are also playing quite well. So all in all, I feel like EPL teams are somewhat better than La Liga teams in the CL.

Barcelona may be without Messi, Griezman. Real madrid maybe without sergio ramos, varane, but if this two teams meet an English team like Manchester United, Liverpool or even chelsea I would place a bet on the Spanish giant beating the English team, the champions league is about pedigree and history, small teams may be a bigger team, but when long time rivals meets, the one with the head to head match record mostly likely wins in the champions league. I even think a Spanish team would get to the final of the 2021/2022 UEFA champions league finals.

History is of course a great thing, but it can help, and it is not necessary at all, only in individual matches, but in a series of matches, a specific role will be played by the state, composition and strength at this point in time. It's just that you can't go far on club history, and if English clubs have better lineups and, accordingly, a team game, then representation in the final stages will be higher in theory. Another question, I myself would not like the total dominance of one European league over others and, accordingly, the representation of other clubs, but I repeat once again that you should not rely only on the club history and Real Madrid and Barcelona achieved their victories thanks to their players and wonderful squads that were clearly above average.

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Quote from: Slow death on October 10, 2021, 05:38:37 PM

so far i can't believe that real madrid has lost to the sheriff, i hope that inter doesn't lose to the sheriff, it's unbelievable that the sheriff has 6 points even being in a group that has 3 strong teams they are in first place with 6 points .

Instead, I expect that Sheriff can beat Inter Milan, then they will lead Group D with 6 points. While Real Madrid can get 3 points against Shakhtar Donetsk. So, with that result, Sheriff is qualified to the next stage, while Real Madrid has a chance to be qualified. To be honest, I want to see Sheriff and Real Madrid can continue to the next stage. It will be interesting if we can see Sheriff to eliminate big teams in UCL.

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Quote from: Slow death on October 10, 2021, 05:38:37 PM

Quote from: Pulsar77 on October 10, 2021, 04:28:13 PM

One of the most interesting games seem like Inter - Sheriff Tiraspol in the round 3 of the tournament.

so far i can't believe that real madrid has lost to the sheriff, i hope that inter doesn't lose to the sheriff, it's unbelievable that the sheriff has 6 points even being in a group that has 3 strong teams they are in first place with 6 points . I call it luck, the real madrid is inconsistent and the shaktar who has scored a lot of goals in their league can't score in the champions league, it's strange

It's a bit strange for some people so try to watch the next game then see how Sheriff Tiraspol plays you will see good teamwork there
In the last match Inter didn't score when they came to shaktar I'm afraid this will happen again in the next game

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Quote from: KTChampions on October 10, 2021, 08:24:54 AM

Quote from: JeromeTash on October 09, 2021, 04:59:57 PM

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By what parameters did you determine that now the EPL teams have an advantage over the La Liga teams? The failure of one team (Barcelona) does not mean that the others have also become weaker, on the contrary, for example, ATM even strengthened by getting Griezmann. I can believe that City is a little stronger than ATM, but not Liverpool.

I agree with @JeromeTash though. I'm also of the opinion that EPL teams are much stronger than their La liga counterpart even if they're unlucky most times when it comes to UCL trophies but of late, they've been dominating. Teams like Madrid and Barcelona should to be on par (on more) when compared to EPL teams but lately, that has changed. This season, it's evident that Liverpool is a better team (head to head) but it's worth considering that football isn't a sure venture so anything can happen. I'm a Liverpool fan but my opinion isn't biased.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on October 10, 2021, 04:28:13 PM

One of the most interesting games seem like Inter - Sheriff Tiraspol in the round 3 of the tournament.

so far i can't believe that real madrid has lost to the sheriff, i hope that inter doesn't lose to the sheriff, it's unbelievable that the sheriff has 6 points even being in a group that has 3 strong teams they are in first place with 6 points . I call it luck, the real madrid is inconsistent and the shaktar who has scored a lot of goals in their league can't score in the champions league, it's strange

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One of the most interesting games seem like Inter - Sheriff Tiraspol in the round 3 of the tournament. As we all have mentioned so far, Sheriff Tiraspol have been an eye-catching team with the results they have got until this point. They are the surprise leader of the group by 6 points. Inter have only 1 point now. They lost to Real Madrid and drew with Shakhtar in a goalless game also. They want a win so bad. Maybe Sheriff made a big surprise against Real Madrid but I think that this is the end of the road for them. I expect Inter to get a solid win. Bookmakers might earn a lot of money as I expect that there will be a lot of people who will give a chance to Sheriff and bet on them.

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