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Quote from: xzone on October 04, 2024, 12:41:51 PM

It was a bad day for Turkish teams. Neither team played as we expected, unfortunately we could not win. They actually had stronger squads than their opponents, but they could not play as they should. It is very sad that Galatasaray could not get 3 points from such a team, especially when it has such a good squad. Sometimes player quality is not enough, it is very important for the team to play in harmony and score goals in such critical matches

Galatasaray haven't been at their best in the last 2-4 games. Prior to yesterday's Europa league match, they won 3-1 against PAOK in their first UEL outing of the season and nearly drew the match. They only won thanks to the intervention of an Oshimen assist and an Icardi late strike to win the game. My point is that they won but they fought really hard to get those 3 points. In the turkey league last weekend, they fumbled a 3-0 lead and just yesterday in the UEL, the fumbled a 0-2 lead.

I have my fingers crossed that these defensive issues are just temporary and hopefully it gets resolved soon.

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Quote from: bitgolden on October 04, 2024, 11:38:52 AM

I don't get what people were expected from Manchester United, they have shown time and time after again how they are terrible and so far they did nothing good on the field all season long, so why expect them to win this time around?

I get they went ahead a bit more, but that doesn't mean we are going to end up with a good or better result, that is not going to happen and we are going to end up with a bad result until they change something about the team. It's clear they are not doing a good job for now, and it is also clear we are talking about a team that is very hard to recover even wit what they have and even if they make a change. This team has been mismanaged for so long that eventually we reached a point where I do not think they are going to fix anytime soon.

Manchester United managed to get one goal back before the final whistle and got a draw against Porto. It would have been disastrous for United if they lost the game although a draw is not the best result because they were supposed to win the match after leading Porto by two goals in the first half but a draw is manageable, at least a point shared is better that none. Manchester United can only hope that Ten Hag learnt a thing or two from this game and can make corrections before their next match against Aston Villa.

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Quote from: xzone on October 04, 2024, 12:41:51 PM

It was a bad day for Turkish teams. Neither team played as we expected, unfortunately we could not win. They actually had stronger squads than their opponents, but they could not play as they should. It is very sad that Galatasaray could not get 3 points from such a team, especially when it has such a good squad. Sometimes player quality is not enough, it is very important for the team to play in harmony and score goals in such critical matches

This draw is the work of Okan Buruk. It's always the same in the last games. Galatasaray think the game is over when they are ahead, but then they concede goal after goal. It can't be a coincidence, the same thing has happened in how many games? I think Okan Buruk is not a manager at this team's level. He can't manage the players well, he can't apply the right tactics. If Galatasaray can't beat a tiny team like Rigas Skola with the quality of their squad, then there is a serious problem.

I am not sure if the problem is only Okan Buruk but a significant part of it is Okan Buruk's. It is really a troublesome situation to concede two goals against a weak team in a match where they are leading 2-0, the players also have a role to play. Also, the absence of Osimhen and Muslera in the match was a big deficiency.

Günay is not a good goalkeeper, I wish Muslera was in this match and we could have made it two out of two. Osimhen will be out for a few weeks due to injury.

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Quote from: JoyMarsha on October 04, 2024, 01:55:37 PM

Since Manchester United decided to hold onto a draw against Porto, as their preferable result, let's see what will be their next preferable result when they meet Aston Villa at home.

Getting a draw isn’t their preferable result, but that’s all they could get in the match. Manchester United even struggled before they could get a draw because Manchester United scored their last goal during the extra time given, which I will say they were lucky in the match to get a draw. Aston Villa might not take it easy with Manchester United, if Manchester United doesn’t improve their performance, then they will find it difficult to win any club they are playing against. Everyone knows that Manchester United are not in form, so Aston Villa will want to take advantage. With the way the two clubs are playing currently, it’s going to be a win for Aston Villa.

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However, it is becoming clear by the day that Ten Hag sack is certain. There's no two ways about it, to see him escape being sacked before the end of the season.

Everyone have been requesting that Ten Hag should be sack, but Manchester United management is still observing, they still want Ten Hag, but as long as Ten Hag is still in Manchester United, then their performance is going to keep on getting worse.

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Quote from: KTChampions on October 04, 2024, 07:25:12 AM

You will be surprised, but Fernandes won the appeal so his red is overturned (in the Premier League) and he will play the next games, but I don’t think it will help United much. Aston Villa are serious opponents and United will be lucky to get at least a draw.
By the way, I was wrong - United has one win not in 8 games in European competitions, but in 10. And this is a win against Copenhagen.
At the same time, Ten Hag suggests waiting until the end of the season Grin

And also - yes, United have a good chance of winning the Europa League, but everyone understands that this will not be the same Europa League as in previous years, since the composition of participants this year is an order of magnitude weaker (since there will be no addition of teams from the Champions League).

I agree with you partially as things are going it looks like we will be having some good time is waiting for the Eric Ten Hag because if they can overcome Porto as they can do good against Aston Villa because now things were going completely down, and we know how Eric Ten Hag reacts every time when matters come on his job so most chances we will be having good result against Aston Villa even they can win as well.

Fernandes is the good player for Manchester United his role is always important for their good performance as I am not agreed about their chances of win Europa Cup but still we can expect them to have good performance in coming matches because they have ability and quality to do this Aston Villa game could be good and decisive for them because things are taking changes and Aston Villa is also surely at his best but can to stop the Manchester United it's interesting.

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Ten Hag and the players are not having it this time, I see no sign of improvement, moving from worst to worst on different leagues. Knocking Chelsea off from qualifying for the Europa league is of no importance because even with their last minute qualification they have been unable to put out a good performance.

I don't think the coach will last for another season with this level of results the team is getting in this crucial phases of the competition, even Bruno might end up not being part of the squad by then.

At first I thought Manchester was certain to win after they scored two quick goals in the first half, I thought Erik Ten Hag's team was starting to rise again. But it turned out that Porto was able to turn things around and become superior to United. It was quite surprising, I thought it wouldn't be like this. It was made worse by Bruno getting a red card. Fortunately, United were able to equalize to 3-3. A terrible situation for United, I think Ten Hag should re-evaluate his team. Especially when he made the decision to pull Rashford, 4 minutes later Porto were able to turn the situation around with an advantage for them. For me, statistically United didn't play that badly, they had a lot of chances. But based on individual players, it seems like it will be a job for the coach. A draw is not too bad than losing in this match, besides Porto is not a weak team. Even though I'm not a supporter of The Red Devil, I hope Ten Hag finds a formula to bring his team back on track.

Yes, after the two goals lead from United i was kinda expecting them to uphold that result, which was a better start for them during the game but they lack enough ability to hold unto, conceding 3 goals later on has nothing to do with the red cards even, they were poorly performing against their opponent which has landed them in the bottom of the league. Bruno can barely be trusted, two consecutive red cards, one from the Premier league on past sunday and another on thursday, his lucky enough that the appeal for him not to miss a few matches in the Premier league has been considered, i really wondered how they would have to face Aston Villa on sunday. Not just the coach on this, the players also need to better themselves, the coach isn't the one missing some good opportunities when having the ball decently placed for a proper finish.

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Well it is a fact that the club still has problems with the performance of its team, or it is no secret that things have become tougher for them due to the poor performance shown , although the truth is that the game they tied against PORTO was good, I don't know but it was seen that they played with everything they had, it must be highlighted that, the players want to win, but I consider that the direction is not the right one because I have always said many things against Ten Hag , however I don't know how he has followers who follow him strictly even though he screws up as much as he can.

I expect Manchester United to win that match even though I actually believe Porto can comeback in the first half. Manchester United's draw was caused by their weak defense when they were leading 0-2 where Porto players really managed to exploit that weakness. Maguire came in to give a new color, he should have been available earlier instead of keeping him on the bench.

Matthijs de Ligt looked weak in that match and he and Martinez were completely overwhelmed in defense. Onana certainly helped in his way, he saved some of Porto's chances, but he couldn't always be a strong wall. Ten Hag was in charge, but he seemed relaxed in his own style.

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Quote from: xzone on October 04, 2024, 12:41:51 PM

It was a bad day for Turkish teams. Neither team played as we expected, unfortunately we could not win. They actually had stronger squads than their opponents, but they could not play as they should. It is very sad that Galatasaray could not get 3 points from such a team, especially when it has such a good squad. Sometimes player quality is not enough, it is very important for the team to play in harmony and score goals in such critical matches

This draw is the work of Okan Buruk. It's always the same in the last games. Galatasaray think the game is over when they are ahead, but then they concede goal after goal. It can't be a coincidence, the same thing has happened in how many games? I think Okan Buruk is not a manager at this team's level. He can't manage the players well, he can't apply the right tactics. If Galatasaray can't beat a tiny team like Rigas Skola with the quality of their squad, then there is a serious problem.

Perhaps the problem was that they were too quickly complacent with a 2-1 lead, but perhaps that reason is also not true because after all, the reality is that there was still plenty of time for Galatasaray to make another goal in the second half, but Galatasaray were unable to make a goal in the second half. Thus, I think the problem might just be that the brand's performance might still be weak in the Europa League, so such a draw is also difficult to avoid. Because ofcourse, if Galatasaray has good quality and also has a big winning mentality, then playing away does not make a barrier for them to get a win against such a non-seeded team.

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Manchester United vs Porto was the most exciting match, it started from Manchester United leading two goals, Porto make a comeback for scoring 3 goals and in the injury time, Manchester United managed to equalize the score.

Bruno once again try a risky move and he received red card in this match, will Manchester United appeal the red card again just like they did in the previous match against Tottenham?

Bruno should be benched, unfortunately there are no players that play as good as him right now.

Wow, the match was really exciting, how could Man United who were already two goals ahead concede three goals, luckily Harry Maguire was able to score a goal in injury time, saving Man United from defeat. Regarding Bruno's red card, I think it's fair because it was clearly a violation and the referee didn't immediately issue a red card, only gave a yellow card, so because Bruno had previously received a yellow card, it's fair to get a red card. I don't agree if Bruno is benched because he is one of the key players in the Man United squad and he is also the team captain.

It was high voltage match and millions of people watched this match and all people enjoyed that match because no team lose heart and both teams gave their hundred percent to win this match but no team could win this match. Omorodion was top performer in this match and his goals make match interesting and after his goals Manchester United players saw that they could lose this match and they did discussion and they did attack on Porto team . The overall performance of Man united was wonderful and their shots were very impressive because these were on target and their possession percentage was also more than opponent team and their passes helped them to do last goal which was turning point of this match.

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Quote from: xzone on October 04, 2024, 12:41:51 PM

It was a bad day for Turkish teams. Neither team played as we expected, unfortunately we could not win. They actually had stronger squads than their opponents, but they could not play as they should. It is very sad that Galatasaray could not get 3 points from such a team, especially when it has such a good squad. Sometimes player quality is not enough, it is very important for the team to play in harmony and score goals in such critical matches

This draw is the work of Okan Buruk. It's always the same in the last games. Galatasaray think the game is over when they are ahead, but then they concede goal after goal. It can't be a coincidence, the same thing has happened in how many games? I think Okan Buruk is not a manager at this team's level. He can't manage the players well, he can't apply the right tactics. If Galatasaray can't beat a tiny team like Rigas Skola with the quality of their squad, then there is a serious problem.

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Quote from: Issa56 on October 03, 2024, 02:46:23 PM

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If good match results were easily given, we would have let Manchester United win their two important matches so that Ten Hag's job as Manchester United's coach would be retained. But this will not be the case because each team needs the 3 points for them to appear top of the league table.

The best thing is just to allow Ten hag go, Manchester United vs. Porto is currently on, and I am just surprised at how Porto equalized in the match after Manchester United scored two goals already. With the way the match is going, I won’t be surprise if Porto win the match. After Manchester United scored two goals, I was thinking maybe they will easily win the match, but Porto have been able to equalize, so I am not really sure if Manchester United will be able to win the match.

If Manchester United can’t win Porto and they can’t win Aston Villa, which will be their next Premier League match, then I think Ten Hag should be sacked, and I don’t think Ten Hag will win Aston Villa. Let’s just wait and see if they will be able to win against Porto, which I think will be difficult.

Since Manchester United decided to hold onto a draw against Porto, as their preferable result, let's see what will be their next preferable result when they meet Aston Villa at home. However, it is becoming clear by the day that Ten Hag sack is certain. There's no two ways about it, to see him escape being sacked before the end of the season. I am looking forward to that so that Manchester United will attest to a new coach who knows good football and tactics rather than all these shameful losses that make them look like a mediocre team while they are among the top teams in England.

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Quote from: Docnaster on October 03, 2024, 05:01:34 PM

The game ended with a draw after Harry Maguire rose high in the stoppage time and scored a header to give 10 man Manchester United a draw at Porto. The mentality of Manchester United have been heavily affected and the confidence of the players have reduced significantly but sadly the club management is not ready to make the vital and necessary decision of sacking Erik ten Hag. I wasn't surprised that Porto came from 2 goals down to get a draw and was even close to winning the game because Manchester United in recent times haven't been convincing with their results and performances. The club is in crises and will continue to underperform till when there's an improvement.

Well it is a fact that the club still has problems with the performance of its team, or it is no secret that things have become tougher for them due to the poor performance shown , although the truth is that the game they tied against PORTO was good, I don't know but it was seen that they played with everything they had, it must be highlighted that, the players want to win, but I consider that the direction is not the right one because I have always said many things against Ten Hag , however I don't know how he has followers who follow him strictly even though he screws up as much as he can.

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Quote from: mammusu on October 04, 2024, 03:43:59 AM

The match between Manchester United and Porto was indeed very dramatic, the exchange of goals occurred in the match since the first half of the match began, playing at home, in fact Porto was surprised by Rashford quick goal in the 7th minute and Manchester who were 1 goal ahead continued to increase their attack to secure the victory, but unfortunately it was Manchester United's defense again that became a problem that caused them to fail to get full points in the match, De Ligt and Martinez I think was the reason Manchester failed to get 3 points because of their inability to guard the defense which made Porto manage to end the game with a score of 3-3.
Maybe Manchester United will try to appeal, but it looks like they won't succeed in overturning the punishment received by Bruno Fernandes,Because indeed he deserves a second yellow card in the match after raising his legs too high and potentially endangering the opponent.

The red Bruno Fernanes saw may or may not touched the other player, but there is a rule against making a dangerous play, and his feet being that high that close to someone's head, even if it did touch or not touched, is still a risky move and you get a yellow for that.

It has been a rule for decades, you don't have to hit someone to get the card, a dangerous play is a dangerous play and you get carded accordingly.

To be fair if it wasn't for Harry Maguire, we would be probably talking about something else completely, let Man United fans joke about Maguire as much as they want, that dude saved the entire team. United is doing so terrible these days that I can see them actually firing ETH during the international break if they can convince someone else to take over.

Right now, the question changed from "who could be better than Erik Ten Hag" to "Who could be worse?" because honestly not that many people who are worse than him exists at this point. They need to act quick, they need to convince a great manager to take the position and fire ETH right away. This can't go on for any longer, they are about to become the worst United team in history this season, and they can't go on like this.

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Quote from: KTChampions on October 04, 2024, 12:30:55 PM

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It's now time Manchester United call it quite with Ten Hag. This is now becoming embarrassing, they keep flopping and losing matches. They have done all they can in terms of signing players, they are one of the biggest spenders this season but still nothing to show for it.
This season would end in a very embarrassing way if they continue to leave Ten Hag in charge.

Winning by two goals and then flopping to losing the match is beyond absurd, as a neutral Manchester United has been destroyed by their coach.

Today, Radcliffe, answering a question about Ten Hag's future, said that firstly, he does not want to answer this question, and secondly, it will be a decision of the management, which they have only had since the summer and they need time to figure everything out. In general, he avoided a direct answer and it looks like Ten Hag will be fired in the near future. If he had a chance to stay at the club, I think he would have received at least formal support, but other than encouraging words, there was nothing of that.

Manchester United has spent a lot of money in the transfer market in the last two seasons, but we don't see any improvement in their performance and consistency , so they are no different from burning big money all this time, but we also must to admit if the players they brought to Old Trafford are great players, so I think if the players that Manchester United currently have are in the right hands like Guardiola, Arteta and even Arne Slot of course they will be a formidable team as Premier League title contenders, but what we see happening to Manchester United at the moment is Ten Hag inability to coach, so I think with their inconsistency all this time, ten hag must fire last season and not this seasonzbecause their poor performance last season has actually been a reference and a strong reason to kick ten hag out from old Trafford, but strangely, management are quite patient to see Manchester United slump like today Grin

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It was a bad day for Turkish teams. Neither team played as we expected, unfortunately we could not win. They actually had stronger squads than their opponents, but they could not play as they should. It is very sad that Galatasaray could not get 3 points from such a team, especially when it has such a good squad. Sometimes player quality is not enough, it is very important for the team to play in harmony and score goals in such critical matches

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7/10 matches is quite better and profitable for you, while I always rely on parlay in this victory, just one match lost then ruined the parlay made.
I'm still curious about parlay betting but lately there have been more defeats too much ambition and team input in the bet that makes me complacent with the odds are quite large.

In fact, winning a parlay is not easy. Many gamblers are tempted to place parlay bets with high odds, but unfortunately they tend to lose because of their big ambitions. Of course there are times when you win, but without proper analysis and selection, I think your winning ratio is very low. I obviously don't know how many teams you include in your parlay betslip, but the more teams there are, the lower the probability of winning.

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Quote from: BIT-BENDER on October 04, 2024, 11:03:54 AM

It's now time Manchester United call it quite with Ten Hag. This is now becoming embarrassing, they keep flopping and losing matches. They have done all they can in terms of signing players, they are one of the biggest spenders this season but still nothing to show for it.
This season would end in a very embarrassing way if they continue to leave Ten Hag in charge.

Winning by two goals and then flopping to losing the match is beyond absurd, as a neutral Manchester United has been destroyed by their coach.

Today, Radcliffe, answering a question about Ten Hag's future, said that firstly, he does not want to answer this question, and secondly, it will be a decision of the management, which they have only had since the summer and they need time to figure everything out. In general, he avoided a direct answer and it looks like Ten Hag will be fired in the near future. If he had a chance to stay at the club, I think he would have received at least formal support, but other than encouraging words, there was nothing of that.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on October 04, 2024, 08:31:38 AM

Elfsborg was a Swedish club. They also rarely played in European competition as well.

On other hand, i don't even think Roma played well in this game. They had no poise and character. They wasted so many chances. They dominated possession. But their opponent let them have it. They are playing without a tactical plan. They did 20 crosses that went nowhere.

I hope Roma is out of the competition If they keep playing at this rate, they clearly don't want to be here. They were not serious in their performance.

Change of coach and having few good results are enough for them because now they are back on level where they were in era of De Rossi things are not developed which is surely problem for them management and players as well AS Roma was hot favorite for the game and their performance was also not bad, but their finishing was crap as they are having 24 shots on goal and 6 on target but not able to score still any goal which is clearly giving all about their quality.

Now they are having just one point from 2 games most chances we will be having early exited for them from this competition because we are having no depth in players and their quality is also not good which give them any chance of having spot into higher ranks after three weeks they are going to host Dyn. Kyiv which is currently worse than Roma so we can expect win for them in this game.

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I don't get what people were expected from Manchester United, they have shown time and time after again how they are terrible and so far they did nothing good on the field all season long, so why expect them to win this time around?

I get they went ahead a bit more, but that doesn't mean we are going to end up with a good or better result, that is not going to happen and we are going to end up with a bad result until they change something about the team. It's clear they are not doing a good job for now, and it is also clear we are talking about a team that is very hard to recover even wit what they have and even if they make a change. This team has been mismanaged for so long that eventually we reached a point where I do not think they are going to fix anytime soon.

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Quote from: BIT-BENDER on October 04, 2024, 11:03:54 AM

It's now time Manchester United call it quite with Ten Hag. This is now becoming embarrassing, they keep flopping and losing matches. They have done all they can in terms of signing players, they are one of the biggest spenders this season but still nothing to show for it.
This season would end in a very embarrassing way if they continue to leave Ten Hag in charge.

Winning by two goals and then flopping to losing the match is beyond absurd, as a neutral Manchester United has been destroyed by their coach.

https://punchng.com/decision-on-ten-hag-not-my-call-says-man-utd-co-owner-ratcliffe/

Jim Ratcliffe, a co-owner of Manchester United, was questioned concerning the future of the struggling coach Erik ten Hag. The British billionaire businessman said that he is not in the position of determining the future of the Dutch tactician. He said that the club's management, which is headed by CEO Omar Berrada and Sporting Director Dan Ashworth, would decide whether to keep or fire the coach. Thus, those demanding that Erik be fired should direct their resentment toward the management group.

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