Topic: US Elections 2020 - very self such moderated - page 8. (Read 4674 times)
Its over when the media says its over.
Assuming AZ, GA and PA are done, If Biden takes NV and GA he will have 306 electoral votes.
Hope you're right. But this shit show might just be getting started.
I didn't know I could file a case with the SC via tweet
Seriously though, he needs to bring a plausible case that has the potential of changing the outcome of the election. If he loses PA, which he will, he has no case.
Edit: Biden ahead in PA.
yeah, he is ahead in PA, and will probably have good advantage at the end, just looking at trend, which is mainly 75% of new votes for Biden, so he can allow to lose Arizona, that can happen in the end, but PA is enough to reach 270
GA could overturn back, as i understood there is 9000 US army votes there, and difference is really low (<1000 votes), but that will not be important, if Biden wins PA
Decision Desk calls it. Biden's the 46th President of the United States.
https://results.decisiondeskhq.com/
PA was going to flip, AZ was never going to flip, neither was NV. Figured anyone that was being realistic would have called it 24 hours ago, but here we are.
https://results.decisiondeskhq.com/
PA was going to flip, AZ was never going to flip, neither was NV. Figured anyone that was being realistic would have called it 24 hours ago, but here we are.
Hope you're right. But this shit show might just be getting started.
I didn't know I could file a case with the SC via tweet
Seriously though, he needs to bring a plausible case that has the potential of changing the outcome of the election. If he loses PA, which he will, he has no case.
Edit: Biden ahead in PA.
Don't even have to look at PA. Biden at the time of this post takes the lead in Georgia by ~1k votes with >99% reporting.
agree, but final difference in PA would be 100k+ for Biden, if this trend continue till the end of the counting, and it will, so there would not be any suspicion there, i presume that Trump will try to blame everyone and claim re-election, but do not see how he can do something
Don't even have to look at PA. Biden at the time of this post takes the lead in Georgia by ~1k votes with >99% reporting.
Regardless of your political views, votes trickling in by the hundreds at 5 AM in Georgia two days after the election has passed is beyond mental retardation on behalf of state officials.
Regardless of your political views, votes trickling in by the hundreds at 5 AM in Georgia two days after the election has passed is beyond mental retardation on behalf of state officials.
PA is all but gone for Trump which would end this shit show.
Hope you're right. But this shit show might just be getting started.
I am getting confused. In case the fight about the election outcome ends up in the supreme court, will Biden be able to sworn in as the president on January 2021? There are going to be tons of lawsuits. Republican observers were kicked out of the counting center in Michigan, access was denied to Republican observers in Pennsylvania, dead people voting in Nevada and so on..
I doubt this will go anywhere. A few random lawsuits that Trump campaign tried to file have been thrown out because the lawyers couldn't produce evidence. They could force a couple of recounts (WI and GA) but that's about it.
agree, and the difference in Michigan and Wisconsin is now even higher than 4 years ago, when Trump claimed this countries
these lawsuits are just chit-chat, and will not produce anything significant legally, since there is no evidence at all, but could produce unrest in the country and i think that this is primary goal for Trump, although do not know what will be next step for him
PA is all but gone for Trump which would end this shit show. NC is not going to be decided until Nov. 12th so even if Trump outperforms, we still don't know the winner until the 12th.
yeah, flip should happen today, and that should end this show that is currently on the run, three days on TV, i have heard that online food purchase jumped significantly during this show, and people are probably staying at home, so this could be a type of quarantine for people
Georgia has to get a recount because of the 9k military ballots that are presumably going to be sent in tomorrow. But the recounts don't do anything. Florida's recount bumped Bush by a couple hundred votes so there's no way the state will flip if Biden gets a sizeable lead.
PA is all but gone for Trump which would end this shit show. NC is not going to be decided until Nov. 12th so even if Trump outperforms, we still don't know the winner until the 12th.
Senate is at a 48 48 split.
Another close race is the Georgia Senate race.
David Perdue (R) is at 49.9% and needs a majority in order to avoid a run off which he couldn't get, so we have two Georgia run offs which would decide the senate majority. The other race is Kelly Loeffler (R) v. Warnock. Apparently Loeffler is worth 500 million dollars and lives in a 10 million dollar home so this person is probably some self serving narcissist running for the senate for the prestige. Apparently that was the best republican Georgia could put up.
Thom Tillis (R) SHOULD* win NC, so Republicans are at 49 seats. Alaska will ofc elect their Republican senator, so R's are at 50.
The picture of Kamala Harris walking down the chamber smiling waving her hands around as she tie breaks every piece of legislation is not a pretty sight...Republicans will dump all they have into the race hoping to get at least one.
PA is all but gone for Trump which would end this shit show. NC is not going to be decided until Nov. 12th so even if Trump outperforms, we still don't know the winner until the 12th.
Senate is at a 48 48 split.
Another close race is the Georgia Senate race.
David Perdue (R) is at 49.9% and needs a majority in order to avoid a run off which he couldn't get, so we have two Georgia run offs which would decide the senate majority. The other race is Kelly Loeffler (R) v. Warnock. Apparently Loeffler is worth 500 million dollars and lives in a 10 million dollar home so this person is probably some self serving narcissist running for the senate for the prestige. Apparently that was the best republican Georgia could put up.
Thom Tillis (R) SHOULD* win NC, so Republicans are at 49 seats. Alaska will ofc elect their Republican senator, so R's are at 50.
The picture of Kamala Harris walking down the chamber smiling waving her hands around as she tie breaks every piece of legislation is not a pretty sight...Republicans will dump all they have into the race hoping to get at least one.
I am getting confused. In case the fight about the election outcome ends up in the supreme court, will Biden be able to sworn in as the president on January 2021? There are going to be tons of lawsuits. Republican observers were kicked out of the counting center in Michigan, access was denied to Republican observers in Pennsylvania, dead people voting in Nevada and so on..
The only votes that actually matter are the 538 electors that meet on the Monday after the second Wednesday in December.
If nobody receives a majority of the 538 votes, the House of Representatives will choose the next president.
So, no.
I am getting confused. In case the fight about the election outcome ends up in the supreme court, will Biden be able to sworn in as the president on January 2021? There are going to be tons of lawsuits. Republican observers were kicked out of the counting center in Michigan, access was denied to Republican observers in Pennsylvania, dead people voting in Nevada and so on..
I doubt this will go anywhere. A few random lawsuits that Trump campaign tried to file have been thrown out because the lawyers couldn't produce evidence. They could force a couple of recounts (WI and GA) but that's about it.
I am getting confused. In case the fight about the election outcome ends up in the supreme court, will Biden be able to sworn in as the president on January 2021? There are going to be tons of lawsuits. Republican observers were kicked out of the counting center in Michigan, access was denied to Republican observers in Pennsylvania, dead people voting in Nevada and so on..
Biden trails by less than 2000 votes in Georgia and there are >5000 ballots to be counted in a heavily blue Clayton county, that's been going for Biden ~4:1. So that one county can make it game over for Trump. There are ~10k votes remaining in other counties too and almost everything, including red counties, has been going for Biden so it's looking very good for him.
30% chance of winning Florida, NC, and Georgia
This doesn't sound so bad, given how close Georgia is turning out to be. But they did significantly overestimate Biden's chances in some other places. Wisconsin is way closer than predicted for example.
In other news... Trumps lawsuits are being dismissed in Georgia and Michigan, which is not a surprise to anyone:
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-sues-3-states-election-c93acbc3e1f31baf3e9023b9b61696f7
In Philly observers did get closer access to watch the counting process. Trump is also suing in Nevada and will probably demand a recount in Wisconsin.
May be of interest... I'm predicting six months maybe longer of stupid drama.
https://www.scotusblog.com/election-litigation/
30% chance of winning Florida, NC, and Georgia
This doesn't sound so bad, given how close Georgia is turning out to be. But they did significantly overestimate Biden's chances in some other places. Wisconsin is way closer than predicted for example.
In other news... Trumps lawsuits are being dismissed in Georgia and Michigan, which is not a surprise to anyone:
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-sues-3-states-election-c93acbc3e1f31baf3e9023b9b61696f7
In Philly observers did get closer access to watch the counting process. Trump is also suing in Nevada and will probably demand a recount in Wisconsin.
Looking like Biden might pull it off by a hair now. One thing is certain, the media was WAY off with their predictions of a landslide victory.
Going to be tight, and even if Biden wins the polls were yet again very wrong and professional poll aggregators, like 538, are looking pretty dumb right now. They gave Trump a 10% chance of winning overall and a 30% chance of winning Florida, NC, and Georgia, though it seems like all of those predictions are wrong.
Not really sure on how you could mess up the polling stuff so bad in 2016 and not just be much more conservative this time around -- but I guess it has happened again. It's not like Trump has changed the voters that he targets or has changed his campaign in a massive way.
Same white uneducated demographic with a bit of a difference on Latinos and Cubans which may have been the harder part to predict.
AS the polls suggest that Biden is near winning, Bitcoin has jumped from below $15,000 to, say, $15,250... in the last 20 minutes.
If Biden is elected we are going to see a boom in prices both in the stock markets but also in the crypto markets.
Trump wasn't so popular in the Wall Street due to his radical opinions and the way that he wanted to cut the bonds from other countries. Biden is going to give a hope to the money makers that this is going to change.
Trump wasn't so popular in the Wall Street due to his radical opinions and the way that he wanted to cut the bonds from other countries. Biden is going to give a hope to the money makers that this is going to change.
There's also the point that if Biden wins, he then faces a Republican-controlled senate. It's this I think that's a key driver of the buoyant markets. Biden is not going to be able to implement higher taxes, tougher regulations, etc., if he has to get through the Rep senate to do so. Republicans have also flipped some House seats. A Biden administration is not going to have free rein.
He also can look forward to a shitload of investigations.
I think there's a possibility of some sort of fracture in the Republicans though. It's could be a weird dynamic with Senators finally able to speak freely about Trump and most likely there will be unapologetic Pro Trump Republicans on one side and openly disgusted with Trump Republicans on the other.
Nope. every republican will abandon Trump if Biden becomes the president
I think there's a possibility of some sort of fracture in the Republicans though. It's could be a weird dynamic with Senators finally able to speak freely about Trump and most likely there will be unapologetic Pro Trump Republicans on one side and openly disgusted with Trump Republicans on the other.
They will still be afraid of the base and of getting primaried out. Trump will likely try to keep the Republican base excited and loyal to him even if he loses... he's already doing fundraising to fight the "rigged election".
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