Topic: Using ToS against users normal? - page 4. (Read 2954 times)

If a gambling site changes its terms and conditions, it must notify the customer via email. sites that are reportable and trustworthy must do this. And if they don't do this and any user has problem because of it then the gambling site will be responsible.  But we have to be careful about it and when they ask to agree on any condition, we have to read those reasons carefully. In that case there will be less chance of problems

There are some gambling platforms that sometimes manipulate and cause problems while withdrawing the bet money. Even when a gambler reads the terms and conditions of the casino platform well and acts accordingly, there are many ToS that cause problems. Many gambling platforms have such mischievous team services who trouble and try to do various scams against gamblers. But there are many people who try to do everything without reading the ToS and for them the gambling platform decides to read the ToS again and again. But to my knowledge there are no casino platforms that can cause problems with players who try to cheat but who don't follow the rules of the ToS.

There are differences in regulations between physical casinos and online casinos. Even if we play in physical casinos, we still have to make sure of the rules and try to obey them so that we don't experience any problems. Maybe in a physical casino, you will not experience your gambling account being blocked because you will be confronted by casino staff who will come up to you and invite you into the room and explain what happened. But when that happens at an online casino, the worst thing you can get is blocking your gambling account so you can't play gambling at the casino. So it's up to you to choose and if you want to be able to play gambling at the casino, you must obey the rules of the casino and playing safe is the best advice. For drunk people, we will probably only meet him in physical casinos, while in online casinos, we will not be able to meet him. And even if we are drunk, other people will not see we are drunk.

When visiting a physical casino, we don't need to accept the ToS to enter or get written down rules on paper that we carry around with us. There are rules in place, but they are not as open when visiting an online casino. We all have to accept the ToS before starting to play online, even though most of us don't bother to read them. It's true that with little money we can play much more online, in the offline casinos the minimum sizes bets are larger and there is more pressure around it us to constantly be placing bets. However, the rules are always the same, it doesn't matter if we enter the casino with 100 USD or 10,000 USD, we all face the same rules. As for rule violations I think that in a physical casino they are not so severe, there will be staff coming to you and tell you that you can't do certain things. But as far as I know you don't get kicked out immediately, because after drinking alcohol things can always get a more tense. Also, you need to travel to visit a physical casino and the owners want you to come back. In the worst case, when you get kicked out it's usually just for the night and there is no permanent ban for gamblers. In online casino the situation is different, because violations against the ToS are more severe. It's not like people get drunk and start harassing other customers, all the violations are against the casino itself and not really the other customers.

In the end, the scam casino will cheat the people and will take all the money with nothing left. It will be the choice of the people where they will play and as long as they play at a reputable and trusted casino, they will be safe, but of course, they also have to follow every rule in the casino.

They cannot play as they please at the casino, especially if the casino has strict rules. And if they don't follow the rules, they may be kicked out of the casino and can't get back to it. Reputable casinos would do this because they know their casinos can become big because of loyal customers, especially customers who spend big money. So if the casino changes, they will let all their customers know about it.

Playing at a well-known casino will provide its own experience, but if the casino is an offline casino, surely you need more money to enter the casino. But if you play gambling at an online casino, you don't need a lot of money because online casinos allow you to play gambling at the casino with enough money.

I agree, we should test the waters first before fully submerging on it.  Using a small amount of money to test the casino is a good strategy to know about the casino.  Others even use freebies, bonuses, and other methods that do not make them spend any amount of money to try the casino.  Although there are wagering requirements and quite hard to cash out in this kind of strategy, at least we are not spending a single penny on the casino while testing its features and how it communicates to the player.

Always recommendable on having this kind of approach on which dont make out huge deposits on gambling sites or any platforms since there's always a tendency that you might be dealing up with a site which is
really that shady or having these kind of behavior. Although we know that there are whale players which they cant really just simply play out with small amounts and from the name itself on being a "whale"

then you would definitely be making out some huge deposits which is something that is really that standard on where you would really be that normally be dealing with huge wagers on every roll.
If you do hit up some huge win then its good that you would be paid out instantly but we know that there are platforms who do really ask out for some verification before you could be able to do so which is really that a shit situation on finding yourself even if you arent that a whale or just those typical gambler where hitting up some jackpot or making huge profits then this is where these situations usually be setting in.

This is why its always been that recommendable that you should always stick out on platforms or companies which are reputable and popular on which it do lessen out the chances for you to experience such problems.So far in my experience which i havent really been able to experience such TOS changing kind of violation or problem as long you do know on where you would really be placing yourself then
you wont really be able to experience such things.

Between reputable casinos and shady ones, there is a distinct divide. It's like day and night! You believe that tricking people is the main goal of scam casinos? I assure you that there are worse things. There are shades of gray in the world. But hey, thanks for the tip

You claim that well-known casinos look after their patrons. What universe do you inhabit? Like everyone else, they are only interested in making money. Users are informed about changes? Aren't they meant to do that?

Stay at well-known casinos? Yes, if you wish to blend in with the other fish in the large pond. If you have the courage, occasionally plunge into the unknown. Hey, it's your money; you make the decision

A scam casino will use many ways to mislead its clients and stop at nothing to deceive those who are careless and never follow its rules. But even if they follow the rules, the scam casino will still take the money with nothing left and block the account. But it is different from popular casinos. The casino will continue to take care of its users so that they can stay at the casino. If the casino makes changes, they will notify all of their members by sending an email or a notification that will appear every time the user logs into their dashboard. And that is why we have to stay in popular casinos and not try to play in scam casinos because we will surely lose the money without knowing.

They will not ruin their reputation just for one user issue so most of those casino will not do anything illegal since this will reflect back to them.  This commonly happen in new casino where they usually do this maybe because they are not getting any profit yet and here there's one of their gambler win a huge profit to their casino that's why they use some illegal technique just to wipe out those winnings. We see this happened and maybe this actions will still happen so we need to be wise picking best casino to engage to avoid such problems.

Casinos that are well established will definitely keep their users interest first. They know that if users stay on their site, they will earn. On the other hand, those who plan to scam will try to mislead their clients in any way they can and steal their money. Whether a casino is good or bad is not understood firstly it unfolds slowly. But those who are gamblers should always remember that gambling in any casino should not be done out of greed or in the hope of a bonus.

If it is said that a casino is trying to cheat, that also has a point, because they update or change the terms or rules contained in Tos without the knowledge of the customer or do not provide update information or do not ask for approval from all customers, whereas if there is no notification information, then the change can be violated by customers and seem like a trap.
The obligation of the casino when changing the Tos terms and regulations is to share information about the changes made and it would be a shame if some casinos did not do this.
As gamblers, we have to be smarter in choosing the right casino so we don't encounter problems like that and of course a trusted big casino that can be our top choice for gambling.

So far, I have never encountered such a problem in the big casinos that I use, but for small and medium-sized casinos, I don't know about it.

Just make sure that those casinos or sites that are mistreating the users, even if it is using the ToS in unnacceptable ways or just to prevent the user accessing his own funds are named and shamed in the forum. The ToS are a special kind of contract called an adhesion contract and they have limits on what can contain. This is because you as a user cannot really negotiate any terms and may not even understand.

In overall, it wont really be that an assurance thing that would really be putting yourself on complete safety or doesnt really have that kind of risks on which this is something is true on the thing

that you had said.Everything might really be looking that regulated or been abiding on government rules but on the time that they would be making out decisions that they would be scamming out a certain amount of players and taking up those kind of alibis which it would really be pertaining about these TOS changes which its very that unethical i would say. But how people would really be able to prove out that they are really that changing those words if people arent most likely been reading up these Tos in the first place?

It is really hard to determine whether they have changed or not until on the time that they would be saying that they had changed up something and you
have violated something which it is really that make you surprised when the time comes but of course this would be only talking into those shady platforms.

Most times even though there is standard for cryptocurrencies gambling and regulations,  the fact still remains that some scam casinos still do whatever their feels despite having regulations in place and because of the bottleneck method of government regulations that have given those scam casinos the chance to do whatever their want without any fear that regulations and government will check to mate them.
So in most cases,  most of that licenses and regulations are only but just paperwork and casinos still do whatever their like by changing the TOS at will just to favour their own individual loss and scammy activities.

They are not actually trying to scam gamblers, their main target is to scam them. So nothing good can be expected from them. If Good Casino makes any changes to their services or changes the ToS, they use all their means to announce it to update their customers about those changes. So those who want to do business honestly in the gambling industry, they work professionally in all areas. So it is important for gamblers to be extremely careful in selecting gambling sites.

I think what you assumed is not actually what he meant, what i think he meant is that, "we should or need to be against gambling platforms that suddenly change their terms of service, as such act can make withdrawal difficult, most especially for those withdrawing huge amount of money".

So going by the above which i believe is a clearer and easier to understand version of his comment, i would say that he is right, and you are right too as you both are basically saying the same thing, a reputable platform, (not just talking about gambling platforms right now, but by "platforms" i mean, casinos, exchanges and so on), will not just wake up one morning and put out an update on their terms of service and fail to inform their users of such a change, because any platform that does that can be sued by any customer who feels affected and decides to take up the case legally, so, it is very mandatory for companies to always inform their users of any change in the terms of service, no matter how insignificant it seem or seems.

I'm not sure I'm getting this right but are you suggesting that casinos can change their terms of service (rules) any time they want?! If this is what you meant then let me tell you this is not true. Any reliable service will notify its customers about the slightest change they may introduce to the ToS. Besides, any change should not have any retroactive effect. Any service which doesn't follow those basic rules is to be avoided.

Just like many others have said,  any casino that changes its terms and conditions frequently without any prior information to their players are pouring scam and who shouldn't trust them in any form at some point we have to expose such casinos to warn others from falling victim to them,  because those casinos already hard the well-planned scheme and they will never change,  and same as all other scam projects they always change the rules at regular interval just to suit their scammy aim.