Whats happening with Betnomi? - page 13.

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Quote from: QueenVera on July 19, 2023, 06:33:12 AM

Quote from: wiss19 on July 19, 2023, 02:29:30 AM

Communication and transparency are two of the most crucial aspects for a project or a platform to have with their community if they don't want their reputation to get ruined for any reason, if there is even a small issue, even if a bug is found which has disturbed a few players or customers, they should even make an announcement about that and let their community know that they do care about all the things happening so that their customers can have some confidence and more trust on them.

Betnomi is making the situation worst as time is passing, and this is going to ruin their reputation very badly, and I believe it has already started. There is always a limit to someone's patience, once that limit is crossed, one cannot be patient anymore and they will do what they think is right then, and their players will do that as well.

Your right because a platform that fails to engage in communications with their community, would not only ruin the reputations of such platforms but it would also attract a tense environment thereby causing users to lose motivations in patronising such platform, and would also encourage competitors to take advantage of your setback and attract customers to themselves, because people would always seek for other alternatives when they are not satisfied with the services of a company or platform, so if betnomi does not act fast in fixing the issues of the platform it might make them lose alot of customers to their competitors.

I've recently checked their site again and discovered that they're still under maintenance, with the same indication saying,sorry we're down for scheduled maintenance please check back soon, and i noticed that it's been like that for over a while, and it if continues like that for weeks, they'll end up losing most if not all their customers because not everyone would be patients enough to wait for them to fix the bug in their platform.

I believe the question first of all should be, what exactly is this maintenance that have lasted almost a week and we are yet to discover what they are truly maintaining, are they rebuilding the website from scratch? or rebuilding the database?
what ever the problem is or be, courtesy demands that they should have at least communicated to their users if really they had any regard and respect for them..

I don't know about any other person but lets assume i had money on this casino, i probably consider it lost by now, cus it seems that the casino may likely not come back, but then, assuming they return back, i will just withdraw my money and chose another casino and start playing there, because I cant immediately continue to trust this casino after such a behavior .

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Quote from: wiss19 on July 19, 2023, 02:29:30 AM

Communication and transparency are two of the most crucial aspects for a project or a platform to have with their community if they don't want their reputation to get ruined for any reason, if there is even a small issue, even if a bug is found which has disturbed a few players or customers, they should even make an announcement about that and let their community know that they do care about all the things happening so that their customers can have some confidence and more trust on them.

Betnomi is making the situation worst as time is passing, and this is going to ruin their reputation very badly, and I believe it has already started. There is always a limit to someone's patience, once that limit is crossed, one cannot be patient anymore and they will do what they think is right then, and their players will do that as well.

Your right because a platform that fails to engage in communications with their community, would not only ruin the reputations of such platforms but it would also attract a tense environment thereby causing users to lose motivations in patronising such platform, and would also encourage competitors to take advantage of your setback and attract customers to themselves, because people would always seek for other alternatives when they are not satisfied with the services of a company or platform, so if betnomi does not act fast in fixing the issues of the platform it might make them lose alot of customers to their competitors.

I've recently checked their site again and discovered that they're still under maintenance, with the same indication saying,sorry we're down for scheduled maintenance please check back soon, and i noticed that it's been like that for over a while, and it if continues like that for weeks, they'll end up losing most if not all their customers because not everyone would be patients enough to wait for them to fix the bug in their platform.

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Quote from: CryptSafe on July 18, 2023, 01:10:23 PM

It is obvious betnomi behaved this way. If they did make a statement, possibly the medium through which the message was passed across was not strong enough because from the response i have read here it seems many people were not aware of it and that shows that there was a strong communication gap between the betnomi team and their client which is not good. However be the case, the did has been done and i believe they are trying their possibly best to remedy the situation as people who's funds are stuck are running out of patience and possibly calling the casino a scam which i believe if the time frame elongates or elapses without any positive response from the team, it would be assumed they did all these intentionally and that would attract flags and more of scam accusations against them and if there is any one making any accusations, they would have to provide an evidence before they would be given the attention they desired.

Communication and transparency are two of the most crucial aspects for a project or a platform to have with their community if they don't want their reputation to get ruined for any reason, if there is even a small issue, even if a bug is found which has disturbed a few players or customers, they should even make an announcement about that and let their community know that they do care about all the things happening so that their customers can have some confidence and more trust on them.

Betnomi is making the situation worst as time is passing, and this is going to ruin their reputation very badly, and I believe it has already started. There is always a limit to someone's patience, once that limit is crossed, one cannot be patient anymore and they will do what they think is right then, and their players will do that as well.

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Quote from: Poika5 on July 18, 2023, 06:42:48 PM

Quote from: efialtis on July 18, 2023, 05:32:45 PM

Only God knows what the people behind this brand have (had) in mind - they have obviously never had a clue of how to "properly"/"professionally" run a gambling business - some serious lack of project management that is. Not as important though when you don`t even plan on actually running the show in a legit way. Wink

Some interesting side note, maybe: https://uspto.report/TM/98019628 - Betnomi trademark application filed less than two months ago Wink

Needless to say that instead of worrying about some trademark, one should probably be more worried about actually running your business professionally, paying people (players, employees, affiliate partners), not sharing ID docs of clients in public forums, not blackmailing players and/or affiliate partners, not stealing from affiliate partners, not running some bs fake ico etc. etc.

Here is a great example of their "professionalism":

(Betnomi live chat, early June)

If anybody is interested in Betnomi ETH wallet, then here it is:
https://etherscan.io/address/0x233DFD8F3B420b54B561F1275AE2A8cE14FC416E#tokentxns

Their ETH wallet has been constantly sending money to one specific address(Even when the withdrawals were supposed to be broken).
In the past 200 days Betnomi sent ~160k$ to 0xdada1e087221c4ae93339707a8ef785b1c0ac1de who then sent every penny to Stake.com

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Still learning I suppose. Read a few decent reveiws. Bookie had been running a few years. Seemed like a legit site with good limits. I deposited 0.29 btc and 3 eth the 15th of June to bet on the euro qualfier.

Looks like your money ended up in Stake as well.

How do you know exactly which address belongs to Stake?

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Quote from: LTU_btc on July 18, 2023, 06:27:03 PM

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If Betnomi pays me my money, I will gladly give you $150 (although my records show that you were not credited $50).

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Btw ... today Sorsis told me that he will answer in the thread soon (I asked him about when the platform will work).

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Quote from: efialtis on July 18, 2023, 05:32:45 PM

Only God knows what the people behind this brand have (had) in mind - they have obviously never had a clue of how to "properly"/"professionally" run a gambling business - some serious lack of project management that is. Not as important though when you don`t even plan on actually running the show in a legit way. Wink

Some interesting side note, maybe: https://uspto.report/TM/98019628 - Betnomi trademark application filed less than two months ago Wink

Needless to say that instead of worrying about some trademark, one should probably be more worried about actually running your business professionally, paying people (players, employees, affiliate partners), not sharing ID docs of clients in public forums, not blackmailing players and/or affiliate partners, not stealing from affiliate partners, not running some bs fake ico etc. etc.

Here is a great example of their "professionalism":

(Betnomi live chat, early June)

If anybody is interested in Betnomi ETH wallet, then here it is:
https://etherscan.io/address/0x233DFD8F3B420b54B561F1275AE2A8cE14FC416E#tokentxns

Their ETH wallet has been constantly sending money to one specific address(Even when the withdrawals were supposed to be broken).
In the past 200 days Betnomi sent ~160k$ to 0xdada1e087221c4ae93339707a8ef785b1c0ac1de who then sent every penny to Stake.com

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Still learning I suppose. Read a few decent reveiws. Bookie had been running a few years. Seemed like a legit site with good limits. I deposited 0.29 btc and 3 eth the 15th of June to bet on the euro qualfier.

Looks like your money ended up in Stake as well.

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Seems that I was living under rock over past few weeks and I wasn't aware about things happening with Betnomi. Mainly because I rarely used Betnomi - I wasn't very satisfied with experience on their platform. Well, things doesn't looks good and I'm scpetical that things will end in positive way, I 've alreade seen similar cases in past and it always had same outcome.
IIRC, I hvaen't deposited money on Betnomi but had above $100 in ballance received as rewards from prediction pools and freebets. And have hardware wallet with their logo from one of their contests. It's not life-changing money, but after all it's my money and I would like to get it.
BTW, maybe it was discussed somewhere, but do they have any connection with BC.GAME? Their site and colors looks similar, but maybe it's just coincidence that randomly come to my head.

Quote from: notblox1 on July 18, 2023, 04:04:11 PM

Today I received another spam email in address I used for registering on Betnomi website but this time I have a screenshot!
This is second spam email I received and all that is happening while betnomi website is not working for weeks Tongue

I received this email few days ago, but I didn't saw connection there because that my email is used for many other activities. But yeah, it's possible that they sold their users database together with making exit scam.

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Only God knows what the people behind this brand have (had) in mind - they have obviously never had a clue of how to "properly"/"professionally" run a gambling business - some serious lack of project management that is. Not as important though when you don`t even plan on actually running the show in a legit way. Wink

Some interesting side note, maybe: https://uspto.report/TM/98019628 - Betnomi trademark application filed less than two months ago Wink

Needless to say that instead of worrying about some trademark, one should probably be more worried about actually running your business professionally, paying people (players, employees, affiliate partners), not sharing ID docs of clients in public forums, not blackmailing players and/or affiliate partners, not stealing from affiliate partners, not running some bs fake ico etc. etc.

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Today I received another spam email in address I used for registering on Betnomi website but this time I have a screenshot!
This is second spam email I received and all that is happening while betnomi website is not working for weeks Tongue

Maybe it is time for members to start writing negative feedbacks and scam accusations.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 14, 2023, 12:52:55 PM

Quote from: cicadasTR on July 13, 2023, 04:53:18 AM

Quote from: Gozie51 on July 13, 2023, 04:41:50 AM

the customers are more apprehensive than we can imagine.

Are they? Reading this thread, seems if you pay someone to post on the forum (although he claims to not work there???), do advertising, do more advertising, POKER TOURNAMENTS, you're good to go. Disappear for a while, no big deal. And if they don't come back, no one's gonna be able to do anything anyway. Win win.

You raise a good argument but are definitely way off on facts and what actually happens. Betnomi is definitely not respecting their players, affiliates, promoters, or anyone else but disappearing. They did make a statement, so we just have to wait a little time. We don't know the whole story( they could help by telling the people whats up), but after a certain period tags will start flying. It's not as if they can disappear and reappear a year later and expect 0 repercussions.

The people that have money stuck on the platform(who aren't scammers) can create flags if they wish and try to get support. There are also scam accusations that can be made(show actual proof you're being scammed, not just complaints where you cheated and cannot get paid). Betnomi isn't getting a free pass, people are just waiting for an explanation.

It is obvious betnomi behaved this way. If they did make a statement, possibly the medium through which the message was passed across was not strong enough because from the response i have read here it seems many people were not aware of it and that shows that there was a strong communication gap between the betnomi team and their client which is not good. However be the case, the did has been done and i believe they are trying their possibly best to remedy the situation as people who's funds are stuck are running out of patience and possibly calling the casino a scam which i believe if the time frame elongates or elapses without any positive response from the team, it would be assumed they did all these intentionally and that would attract flags and more of scam accusations against them and if there is any one making any accusations, they would have to provide an evidence before they would be given the attention they desired.

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Quote from: Agbe on July 18, 2023, 12:56:05 PM

Quote from: icopress on July 02, 2023, 04:47:44 AM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 02, 2023, 04:12:26 AM

I'll tag icopress and see if they may be able to provide an update. I don't know how often they talk with betnomi, but maybe they have some information they can share with the community.

I last inquired about Betnomi's affairs about a week ago (asking for the funds they owe me for my sig and regarding the case of one user who contacted me). And I made it clear that if my case is not resolved, then I will have to terminate the contract with them (to which their manager answered me that Sorsis will be online soon and all cases will be resolved). To be honest, I have no idea what's going on with the platform itself, but I'll find out what I can (including checking the poker lobby),

When I checked the site, it is working perfectly, though I didn't check the withdrawal link since I am not a registered customer and the op is complaining about the withdrawal. And since the website is working I believe the issue of the withdrawal will be resolved soon, and probably they are updating some files on the withdrawal page to make it more faster for customers to withdraw their funds. So op should be patient about the situation on ground.

Yes the domain is still active and at that, it is most likely that only players' account the save a problem since it has been proven that withdrawal is not working on the casino which is one of the reasons most of the players cried out here on the thread and since betnomi behave not made any public statement about the situation it then means that, betnomi team are deliberately taking this out on their players and that is not a good way to treat a client who has to build trust on the casino over years.

Betnomi or its representatives have relied on going out of the business contract agreement which is a total violation of players' rirightsnd we frowned at it in all areas.

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Quote from: icopress on July 02, 2023, 04:47:44 AM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 02, 2023, 04:12:26 AM

I'll tag icopress and see if they may be able to provide an update. I don't know how often they talk with betnomi, but maybe they have some information they can share with the community.

I last inquired about Betnomi's affairs about a week ago (asking for the funds they owe me for my sig and regarding the case of one user who contacted me). And I made it clear that if my case is not resolved, then I will have to terminate the contract with them (to which their manager answered me that Sorsis will be online soon and all cases will be resolved). To be honest, I have no idea what's going on with the platform itself, but I'll find out what I can (including checking the poker lobby),

When I checked the site, it is working perfectly, though I didn't check the withdrawal link since I am not a registered customer and the op is complaining about the withdrawal. And since the website is working I believe the issue of the withdrawal will be resolved soon, and probably they are updating some files on the withdrawal page to make it more faster for customers to withdraw their funds. So op should be patient about the situation on ground.

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Want to see proof?

Quote from: icopress on July 17, 2023, 12:44:07 PM

Quote from: Stayzor on July 17, 2023, 12:13:32 PM

I have 20 000$ stuck in betnomi.

I highly doubt it.

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Most likely the complaint will end in nothing. I wrote the complaint hoping to pressure betnomi to give a response. It is disrespectful to their customers to go offline 16 days and not commuticate officially when they will be back.

Whatever the route seens as the best, by players who have funds stuck there, I will join.

Quote from: holydarkness on July 18, 2023, 12:05:30 PM

Quote from: Stayzor on July 18, 2023, 11:25:32 AM

Yes, I am. I will not sit and do nothing regarding a (for me) big balance I had there. Therefore, I speak out at casino.guru. I only wish people well here in this community. Hope you can understand.

Quote from: holydarkness on July 18, 2023, 04:01:49 AM

Quote from: Stayzor on July 17, 2023, 12:13:32 PM

I have 20 000$ stuck in betnomi. I would be impressed if you can offer that in bonuses Wink

Wait... you're not joking?

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If this is true, though I sympathize with your situation, I don't think there's much CG can do if betnomi didn't even respond, let alone has any intention to process your withdrawal. CG [as well as this forum] can only intermediate disputes, they can't force and make any platform to pay any amount due.

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Quote from: Stayzor on July 18, 2023, 11:25:32 AM

Yes, I am. I will not sit and do nothing regarding a (for me) big balance I had there. Therefore, I speak out at casino.guru. I only wish people well here in this community. Hope you can understand.

Quote from: holydarkness on July 18, 2023, 04:01:49 AM

Quote from: Stayzor on July 17, 2023, 12:13:32 PM

I have 20 000$ stuck in betnomi. I would be impressed if you can offer that in bonuses Wink

Wait... you're not joking?

[image snip]

If this is true, though I sympathize with your situation, I don't think there's much CG can do if betnomi didn't even respond, let alone has any intention to process your withdrawal. CG [as well as this forum] can only intermediate disputes, they can't force and make any platform to pay any amount due.

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Still learning I suppose. Read a few decent reveiws. Bookie had been running a few years. Seemed like a legit site with good limits. I deposited 0.29 btc and 3 eth the 15th of June to bet on the euro qualfier. Placed handicap bets on portugal-iceland. Won most of them. Meant to withdraw soon after, but got stuck in the their kyc process. And then they went offline:( Meant to have funds there for a week only. I never have funds at bookies unless I will have action on some match. Will be more picky regarding crypto bookies in the future. That is for sure.

Quote from: Kelvinid on July 18, 2023, 08:30:09 AM

Quote from: holydarkness on July 18, 2023, 04:01:49 AM

Quote from: Stayzor on July 17, 2023, 12:13:32 PM

I have 20 000$ stuck in betnomi. I would be impressed if you can offer that in bonuses Wink

Wait... you're not joking?

https://i.ibb.co/0Dc9BfX/CG-complaint.jpg

If this is true, then it seems that this gambler lacks knowledge of risk management. It's common knowledge that online casinos, or any online platforms for that matter, can shut down unexpectedly. Therefore, it is crucial to minimize risk exposure. $20k is a substantial amount of money for an average gambler, but I hope that the user who complained will be able to move on even if the full amount is not recovered.

As of the moment, the site is still inaccessible.

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Unfortunately not joking. I will not sit and do nothing regarding a (for me) big balance I had there. Therefore, I speak out at casino.guru. I only wish people well here in this community. Hope you can understand.

Quote from: holydarkness on July 18, 2023, 04:01:49 AM

Quote from: Stayzor on July 17, 2023, 12:13:32 PM

I have 20 000$ stuck in betnomi. I would be impressed if you can offer that in bonuses Wink

Wait... you're not joking?

https://i.ibb.co/0Dc9BfX/CG-complaint.jpg

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Quote from: holydarkness on July 18, 2023, 04:01:49 AM

Quote from: Stayzor on July 17, 2023, 12:13:32 PM

I have 20 000$ stuck in betnomi. I would be impressed if you can offer that in bonuses Wink

Wait... you're not joking?

If this is true, then it seems that this gambler lacks knowledge of risk management. It's common knowledge that online casinos, or any online platforms for that matter, can shut down unexpectedly. Therefore, it is crucial to minimize risk exposure. $20k is a substantial amount of money for an average gambler, but I hope that the user who complained will be able to move on even if the full amount is not recovered.

As of the moment, the site is still inaccessible.

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Quote from: piebeyb on July 18, 2023, 06:26:41 AM

Well I think everyone has their own limit to be patient and maybe some people have been patient for quite some time till today and they haven't come to clarify anything about their real problem. I also may not be their customer and have no problem withdrawing money there or putting my identity on Betnomy, but just want to know their progress. nor can I say it's a scam before the community flags them.

Of course there are many who are being harmed out there, it's just that they haven't surfaced for now but surely there will be some people who will come complaining about Betnomy's existence now, whether they will continue this site or leave it, everyone is of course still waiting for the Betnomy team to come to provide explanation of everything to their disappointed users in this thread.

Patience will not help here because even the domain used for email unsubscribe requests is no longer functioning:

Hate to say it, but it seems to be a well-organized rug pull.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 18, 2023, 05:00:18 AM

Quote from: icopress on July 18, 2023, 04:08:20 AM

Quote from: efialtis on July 18, 2023, 04:06:34 AM

Their exit-scam was long overdue, as said multiple times in the past - can happen in the FIAT space as well but not as easily as in the crypto space, or else, nobody would have actually considered "trusting" people like the ones running Betnomi after everything they have done wrong.

I'm still hoping for the best...I'll wait a couple more weeks and then I'll take action.

I was also trying to wait it out and see if they showed up with an explanation but I'm a little aggravated that i'm getting emails from the cryptobonus site and a few other weird emails have started showing up as well. I do not appreciate them selling my information if that is in fact the case. I've left a neutral for now, but may upgrade to a neg soon.

Hope you get paid what's owed.

Well I think everyone has their own limit to be patient and maybe some people have been patient for quite some time till today and they haven't come to clarify anything about their real problem. I also may not be their customer and have no problem withdrawing money there or putting my identity on Betnomy, but just want to know their progress. nor can I say it's a scam before the community flags them.

Of course there are many who are being harmed out there, it's just that they haven't surfaced for now but surely there will be some people who will come complaining about Betnomy's existence now, whether they will continue this site or leave it, everyone is of course still waiting for the Betnomy team to come to provide explanation of everything to their disappointed users in this thread.

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