Whats happening with Betnomi? - page 11.

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Quote from: Wiwo on July 30, 2023, 05:38:26 PM

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Quote from: efialtis on July 29, 2023, 06:08:08 PM

I am talking facts, no rumours

You just said that some people on your telegram group wrote how betnomi is not too far away from dark web drug markets.
That does not sound to me like posting about facts at all, and I have no reason at all to defend betnomi.
If you have more concrete information about them you can send me links with personal messages.

Quote from: Csmiami on July 30, 2023, 06:30:25 AM

Some things stop being an accusation when the person in question admits to it... And there is plenty of stuff that sorsis has done (and claimed) that would really not fit into the narrative of this casino being a community friendly one that would take care of everyone

It was not all bad about Betnomi, you just are painting a very grim picture for them.

Really, betnomi have not been friendly to their client in the recent eyebrows that happened to the casinos, and how betnomi never made any attempt to communicate with their client to let them be informed of what is happening with the casino, instead of locking everyone out of the casino at some point.

But all the same, we must also give Betnomi some benefits of the doubt to let them know that the community still cares and wish them well as long as the fault of the closer of service is not from them, but it is until they come out to make public notice.

Clients/customers of a service provider are entitled to the right to be notified of any issue that is assume to be problematic which affects the customer just like this one to avoid conveying a wrong message.
If communication was sent across within a timely window-frame to it's clients to keep them abreast with whatever circumstance that have taken place, a lot of eyebrows wouldn't have been raised.
We can't say why they didn't, but its isn't the right move to take keeping people aloaf.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on July 30, 2023, 06:27:21 PM

The casino (website) can come back online at any moment and probably some members were not aware of what happened at all. We know that this is an exit scam (already pulled), but not everyone is as smart/knowledgeable as you.

I highly doubted that this will gonna happened. This issue will surely reflected on their Bitcointalk account trust feedback regardless if they come back to clear their reputation again.

I still have balance left in there that I left the last time I played and made a review during their casino review event here in the forum. The good part is I only left couple of bucks that I was supposed to play later but I forgot to use.

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Quote from: Csmiami on July 30, 2023, 06:50:10 PM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 30, 2023, 05:52:28 PM

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I mean, I did put a flag up because some stuff I had seen and experienced regarding payments; but since the amount (not the %) was small, people did sort of ignore it. Besides that, the stuff that happened with gosu/efialtis is public; and we did list them in the blacklist for some of those reasons aswell. And some people may also remember that one time a passport was posted here in the forum to mock a user trying to pass KYC under the premise that "it was not his real passport"...

I will go agree that not everything about the site was bad; but all in all, and after some experience I've gained on the industry ever since, I'd be confident to say that most of that was something that should be considered standard, and not something out of the ordinary.

And well, of course everything looks different in hindsight; but would have there really been a point in coming to the forum every day to talk about what people had been ignoring? would it have changed a thing? guess we'll never know

Thank you - let`s also not forget:

- the generally unprofessional attitude
- the constant "change of plans" with regard to betnomi
- the ICO
- the bragging about carding skills, aka literally scamming people (crime)
- and the list could go on and on

There is a reason why we stopped promoting them a long time ago, including blacklisting. I was more than "understanding" and actually gave them the benefit of the doubt, more than once, but they kept proving how right I was... I had them negatively tagged as well and if I remember correctly, some people on here actually put me on "distrust" because I spoke out against them. Last but not least, in recent months, I actually posted more than once in their thread that I do not see a single reason why anyone in his right mind would keep depositing funds on that site and that people should refrain from doing so.

Tbh, I do not think there is anything else we could have done in order to protect the people of this forum as well as visitors of our website.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 30, 2023, 05:52:28 PM

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I mean, I did put a flag up because some stuff I had seen and experienced regarding payments; but since the amount (not the %) was small, people did sort of ignore it. Besides that, the stuff that happened with gosu/efialtis is public; and we did list them in the blacklist for some of those reasons aswell. And some people may also remember that one time a passport was posted here in the forum to mock a user trying to pass KYC under the premise that "it was not his real passport"...

I will go agree that not everything about the site was bad; but all in all, and after some experience I've gained on the industry ever since, I'd be confident to say that most of that was something that should be considered standard, and not something out of the ordinary.

And well, of course everything looks different in hindsight; but would have there really been a point in coming to the forum every day to talk about what people had been ignoring? would it have changed a thing? guess we'll never know

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 30, 2023, 05:56:30 PM

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Quote from: Wiwo on July 30, 2023, 05:38:26 PM

But all the same, we must also give Betnomi some benefits of the doubt to let them know that the community still cares and wish them well as long as the fault of the closer of service is not from them, but it is until they come out to make public notice.

It's really frustrating and disappointing reading replies like this one. Wiwo, do you realize that betnomi's representative has been inactive fir almost a month and didn't make a post or address any of the members concerns fir more than two months. Do you think this is acceptable! I advice everyone to stay away from this casino till they come back online and fix all the issues and address all their customers' concerns.

Stay away? There's no way to login to the place at this time. If they come back, do you really think they are going to fix any issues? They're not going to come back, they have shown us that they do not care what we think.

You are right. Before writing my reply I tried to access the website and I got a 500 error message (this usually means there is an internal isdue and that the host is still active and hasn't been taken down). The casino (website) can come back online at any moment and probably some members were not aware of what happened at all. We know that this is an exit scam (already pulled), but not everyone is as smart/knowledgeable as you.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on July 30, 2023, 05:52:34 PM

Quote from: Wiwo on July 30, 2023, 05:38:26 PM

But all the same, we must also give Betnomi some benefits of the doubt to let them know that the community still cares and wish them well as long as the fault of the closer of service is not from them, but it is until they come out to make public notice.

It's really frustrating and disappointing reading replies like this one. Wiwo, do you realize that betnomi's representative has been inactive fir almost a month and didn't make a post or address any of the members concerns fir more than two months. Do you think this is acceptable! I advice everyone to stay away from this casino till they come back online and fix all the issues and address all their customers' concerns.

Stay away? There's no way to login to the place at this time. If they come back, do you really think they are going to fix any issues? They're not going to come back, they have shown us that they do not care what we think.

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Quote from: Wiwo on July 30, 2023, 05:38:26 PM

But all the same, we must also give Betnomi some benefits of the doubt to let them know that the community still cares and wish them well as long as the fault of the closer of service is not from them, but it is until they come out to make public notice.

It's really frustrating and disappointing reading replies like this one. Wiwo, do you realize that betnomi's representative has been inactive fir almost a month and didn't make a post or address any of the members concerns fir more than two months. Do you think this is acceptable! I advice everyone to stay away from this casino till they come back online and fix all the issues and address all their customers' concerns.

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Quote from: notblox1 on July 30, 2023, 05:15:12 PM

Quote from: Csmiami on July 30, 2023, 06:30:25 AM

Some things stop being an accusation when the person in question admits to it... And there is plenty of stuff that sorsis has done (and claimed) that would really not fit into the narrative of this casino being a community friendly one that would take care of everyone

It was not all bad about betnomi, you just are painting very grim picture for them.

Correct, they did some good things for the community. I do have to say though, if you had prior information about the type of people who were running the website, it might have been nice to share with the community. @Csmiami. Betnomi may not have had the chance to close the doors with funds of users if we had known.

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Quote from: notblox1 on July 30, 2023, 05:15:12 PM

Quote from: efialtis on July 29, 2023, 06:08:08 PM

I am talking facts, no rumours

You just said that some people on your telegram group wrote how betnomi is not too far away from dark web drug markets.
That does not sound to me like posting about facts at all, and I have no reason at all to defend betnomi.
If you have more concrete information about them you can send me links with personal messages.

Quote from: Csmiami on July 30, 2023, 06:30:25 AM

Some things stop being an accusation when the person in question admits to it... And there is plenty of stuff that sorsis has done (and claimed) that would really not fit into the narrative of this casino being a community friendly one that would take care of everyone

It was not all bad about Betnomi, you just are painting a very grim picture for them.

Really, betnomi have not been friendly to their client in the recent eyebrows that happened to the casinos, and how betnomi never made any attempt to communicate with their client to let them be informed of what is happening with the casino, instead of locking everyone out of the casino at some point.

But all the same, we must also give Betnomi some benefits of the doubt to let them know that the community still cares and wish them well as long as the fault of the closer of service is not from them, but it is until they come out to make public notice.

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Quote from: efialtis on July 29, 2023, 06:08:08 PM

I am talking facts, no rumours

You just said that some people on your telegram group wrote how betnomi is not too far away from dark web drug markets.
That does not sound to me like posting about facts at all, and I have no reason at all to defend betnomi.
If you have more concrete information about them you can send me links with personal messages.

Quote from: Csmiami on July 30, 2023, 06:30:25 AM

Some things stop being an accusation when the person in question admits to it... And there is plenty of stuff that sorsis has done (and claimed) that would really not fit into the narrative of this casino being a community friendly one that would take care of everyone

It was not all bad about betnomi, you just are painting very grim picture for them.

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Quote from: FatFork on July 30, 2023, 08:21:52 AM

Quote from: Csmiami on July 30, 2023, 06:30:25 AM

Quote from: notblox1 on July 29, 2023, 04:30:09 PM

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Some things stop being an accusation when the person in question admits to it... And there is plenty of stuff that sorsis has done (and claimed) that would really not fit into the narrative of this casino being a community friendly one that would take care of everyone

So, has anyone heard or seen anything from Sorsis or anyone official from Betnomi since this fiasco started? I've searched through all of their official social media channels, but there isn't a single word about this anywhere.
I even reached out to the official contact of his other company, Nomi Labs (https://www.nomi-labs.com/), but unfortunately, I haven't received any response yet.

I think Nomilabs is dead too. If you check their FB and Instagram pages you will see zero messages since 1st Jan. While they were very active well before that. And the website nomilabs.com does not work anymore. Yes nomi-labs.com does work, but on their Instagram page it's listed that nomilabs.com is their website. So all of this is strange too and I'm pretty sure Nomilabs does not exist anymore, probably even went bust before Betnomi did.

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Quote from: FatFork on July 30, 2023, 08:21:52 AM

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icopress has, but not much of it has been made public tho. I personally haven't talked to sorsis in a long while after a rather big disagreement we had that anyone can read about searching a bit.

Quote from: icopress on July 24, 2023, 07:53:33 PM

Me and a few other people in this thread keep in touch directly or indirectly with Betnomi and keep each other in the loop (surprisingly there is indeed a connection with Betnomi at the moment). We have a real contingency plan for emergencies (both in the forum and in real life).

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(btw, I must say i do totally agree with how unpleasant it is to scroll past a few tens of shitposts every time I want to read something on the issue becuase of mostly stake sig spammers.)

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Quote from: Csmiami on July 30, 2023, 06:30:25 AM

Quote from: notblox1 on July 29, 2023, 04:30:09 PM

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Some things stop being an accusation when the person in question admits to it... And there is plenty of stuff that sorsis has done (and claimed) that would really not fit into the narrative of this casino being a community friendly one that would take care of everyone

So, has anyone heard or seen anything from Sorsis or anyone official from Betnomi since this fiasco started? I've searched through all of their official social media channels, but there isn't a single word about this anywhere.
I even reached out to the official contact of his other company, Nomi Labs (https://www.nomi-labs.com/), but unfortunately, I haven't received any response yet.

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Quote from: notblox1 on July 29, 2023, 04:30:09 PM

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Some things stop being an accusation when the person in question admits to it... And there is plenty of stuff that sorsis has done (and claimed) that would really not fit into the narrative of this casino being a community friendly one that would take care of everyone

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Quote from: notblox1 on July 29, 2023, 04:30:09 PM

Quote from: efialtis on July 29, 2023, 09:17:44 AM

If you like, look at the GOSU TG and you will find that some people might say that they are not too far away from dark web drug markets.

I never heard anything like that before about Betnomi and it is better not to spread information and rumors like this if there are no clear evidence.
Some people are considering that all Bitcoin coming from gambling is dirty, that is not good and with this we are walking on dangerous borders of accusations.
I know you had bad experience with them, but it is better to stick to the facts and what we know for sure.

I am talking facts, no rumours

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Quote from: efialtis on July 29, 2023, 09:17:44 AM

If you like, look at the GOSU TG and you will find that some people might say that they are not too far away from dark web drug markets.

I never heard anything like that before about Betnomi and it is better not to spread information and rumors like this if there are no clear evidence.
Some people are considering that all Bitcoin coming from gambling is dirty, that is not good and with this we are walking on dangerous borders of accusations.
I know you had bad experience with them, but it is better to stick to the facts and what we know for sure.

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 29, 2023, 06:33:15 AM

Quote from: Eggs96 on July 26, 2023, 10:50:01 PM

I see the maintenance page for Betnomi's website is now gone too... not good.

I started getting this new message

when trying to access the site too since couple of days ago. I don't know whether it's "good" or "bad". What I do know is that Betnomi is not some drug market on the dark web that can disappear any time without warning its customers. It's a respectable gambling site that has been here for years. I believe the owners are honest people and they won't let us down.

This is worse than the previous state since it indicates that server is not responsive which is a clear sign that casino website doesn't have any personel looking for the website to be responsive. The previous state is just a temporary pause on the website.

I think this is it. We already waited enough for Betnomi to comeback or even give an official statement. I hope they will compensate all players if they will return since they hold players balance for a long time without givng any updates.

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 29, 2023, 06:33:15 AM

Quote from: Eggs96 on July 26, 2023, 10:50:01 PM

I see the maintenance page for Betnomi's website is now gone too... not good.

I started getting this new message

when trying to access the site too since couple of days ago. I don't know whether it's "good" or "bad". What I do know is that Betnomi is not some drug market on the dark web that can disappear any time without warning its customers. It's a respectable gambling site that has been here for years. I believe the owners are honest people and they won't let us down.

It looks like you have missed quite a few "episodes" during the years, which all showed how UNprofessional they have been, ever since - and I am honestly not just referring to GOSU related issues. If you like, look at the GOSU TG and you will find that some people might say that they are not too far away from dark web drug markets.

In conclusion, when you shut down your website (we are talking about a gambling site, this is a big money business that`s all about trust) just like that, without any notice, and keep silent for months - what else is needed in order to come to the conclusion that this is some absolute BS?

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 29, 2023, 06:33:15 AM

when trying to access the site too since couple of days ago. I don't know whether it's "good" or "bad". What I do know is that Betnomi is not some drug market on the dark web that can disappear any time without warning its customers. It's a respectable gambling site that has been here for years. I believe the owners are honest people and they won't let us down.

I would like to believe that they are respectable, but how much respect are they showing the customer by going dark? How long can they remain silent and still have your respect? I have always defended them because they always paid, but this is very disrespectful to me and to every person who ever signed up on the website.

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Quote from: Eggs96 on July 26, 2023, 10:50:01 PM

I see the maintenance page for Betnomi's website is now gone too... not good.

I started getting this new message

when trying to access the site too since couple of days ago. I don't know whether it's "good" or "bad". What I do know is that Betnomi is not some drug market on the dark web that can disappear any time without warning its customers. It's a respectable gambling site that has been here for years. I believe the owners are honest people and they won't let us down.

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