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jr. member
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July 27, 2023, 04:26:51 AM
Me and a few other people in this thread keep in touch directly or indirectly with Betnomi and keep each other in the loop (surprisingly there is indeed a connection with Betnomi at the moment). We have a real contingency plan for emergencies (both in the forum and in real life).

Your response helps us users in no way at all. It doesn't matter if you have contacts with the platform owners, as this is not accessible to the majority of users. It may be nice for you that you have other means of contacting the platform owners, but the rest of us have no idea about the whereabouts of our deposited customer funds, information about the planned schedule (when will maintenance end), or any other explanations for the downtime. Users not registered on bitcointalk or not aware of this thread are completely in the dark. Does the current situation even qualify as an emergency? And if so, how should this contact have a directional impact on the outcome?

It is frustrating that nobody of us is receiving clear information about the current state of Betnomi. Our concern lies with our deposited customer funds, and we want clarity on the planned schedule and the downtime. They must inform us and be transparent about their approach to addressing the problems.

However, it does irritate me a little to read the posts of trolls and sig spammers posting for the sake of a quota ... believe me, by such behavior you only harm the cause (subconsciously making you think that we will not receive the money due to us).
Regarding the danger of a total loss of our deposits, it is entirely irrelevant and inappropriate to complain about spam posts and fantasize about "subconsciously attribute fault to ourselves". Report them if you think it's spam, but don't go into off topic. It is crucial that we focus on the actual issue: The lack of information about the safety of our deposits.
If the funds are not paid out, there is only one culprit: The operators of Betnomi. That is the current state, and it won't change until we hear an update from them.

The only thing the customers are asking for is a fair treatment. Until then i hold the operators of Betnomi accountable but hopefully they come up with a positive change.

You are 100% right. This Icopress dude isn't representing the community. He has been playing devils advocate since day one. Only serving what's benefiting him.
newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 0
July 26, 2023, 10:50:01 PM
I see the maintenance page for Betnomi's website is now gone too... not good.
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 0
July 25, 2023, 01:13:09 PM
hi!
another one here affected by betnomi colapse

have about 300usdt funds inside, try to withdraw them around 20th june, didnt get them ever. also was not possible to set a single bet.
and then from the beggining of the month nothing, maintenance forever.

i sent them also 2 o 3 emails and nothing

SCAMMERS
sr. member
Activity: 592
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July 25, 2023, 09:28:42 AM
Me and a few other people in this thread keep in touch directly or indirectly with Betnomi and keep each other in the loop (surprisingly there is indeed a connection with Betnomi at the moment). We have a real contingency plan for emergencies (both in the forum and in real life).

Your response helps us users in no way at all. It doesn't matter if you have contacts with the platform owners, as this is not accessible to the majority of users. It may be nice for you that you have other means of contacting the platform owners, but the rest of us have no idea about the whereabouts of our deposited customer funds, information about the planned schedule (when will maintenance end), or any other explanations for the downtime. Users not registered on bitcointalk or not aware of this thread are completely in the dark. Does the current situation even qualify as an emergency? And if so, how should this contact have a directional impact on the outcome?

It is frustrating that nobody of us is receiving clear information about the current state of Betnomi. Our concern lies with our deposited customer funds, and we want clarity on the planned schedule and the downtime. They must inform us and be transparent about their approach to addressing the problems.

However, it does irritate me a little to read the posts of trolls and sig spammers posting for the sake of a quota ... believe me, by such behavior you only harm the cause (subconsciously making you think that we will not receive the money due to us).
Regarding the danger of a total loss of our deposits, it is entirely irrelevant and inappropriate to complain about spam posts and fantasize about "subconsciously attribute fault to ourselves". Report them if you think it's spam, but don't go into off topic. It is crucial that we focus on the actual issue: The lack of information about the safety of our deposits.
If the funds are not paid out, there is only one culprit: The operators of Betnomi. That is the current state, and it won't change until we hear an update from them.

The only thing the customers are asking for is a fair treatment. Until then i hold the operators of Betnomi accountable but hopefully they come up with a positive change.
hero member
Activity: 2562
Merit: 586
July 25, 2023, 01:10:52 AM
We are also watching the word soon on the maintenance page of Betnomi since the start of this month. Ask Sorsis about the exact date instead of 'soon'. He isn't replying to anyone else. You are standing here as a big wall between Betnomi's forum reputation and the current situation. Now the situation isn't only about when the platform will work again, they have to get out of their unprofessional behaviour too. Your reputation is covering Betnomi now in the Bitcointalk forum.
We are already used to the term soon in cryptocurrency,  when a team make such a statement what it means is that there is a possibility for them to make some form of statement regarding the condition of their project but not certain when such information will come up with such information,  and at the same time,  soon could mean wait forever,  so the reality of this statement lays with what the action of the team becomes going forward from this point.

Betnomi use to be very active here in the forum for over a long time, before this current crisis that is rocking the casinos and what the condition of things is because something is definitely wrong with the operations of this once great casino.
I've worked with cryptocurrency projects in the past and I know what this 'soon' means, it simply means that they are not even sure if when they can come out and say something about what's happening, they are simply trying to push the time forward and to come up with something that can at least save their reputation within the community after what has happened, however, I don't really think there is anything that can be done for that anymore.

They could have been transparent about what's happening since the beginning of the issue, whatever it is, but they thought it would be better to stay silent and let the community suffer and speculate, and now the community has started to doubt the integrity of the casino which is the worst thing that can happen to a business.
legendary
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July 24, 2023, 07:53:33 PM
Me and a few other people in this thread keep in touch directly or indirectly with Betnomi and keep each other in the loop (surprisingly there is indeed a connection with Betnomi at the moment). We have a real contingency plan for emergencies (both in the forum and in real life).

However, it does irritate me a little to read the posts of trolls and sig spammers posting for the sake of a quota ... believe me, by such behavior you only harm the cause (subconsciously making you think that we will not receive the money due to us).
legendary
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Slava Ukraini!
July 24, 2023, 06:14:11 PM
You can't blame the people here if they think Betnomi did an exit scam. It all starts with withdrawals not pushing through, the support staff not replying, and literally a non-functional website. Also, no announcements prior to all these were made, hence people jumping to speculation about what could have happened. The patterns can also be seen on other exit scams from gambling platforms in the past, and that's where people are basing their initial judgment.
It's already 6 days passed since Sorsis promised to answer questions. Plenty of time passed and still nothing didn't happened. Well, communication isn't their strongest part, but even for them it was more than enough time to at least drop message. I will be happy if I'm wrong, but for now situation looks similar like we saw so many times in crypto world and outcome of it usually isn't positive.
hero member
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July 24, 2023, 12:58:15 PM

We are also watching the word soon on the maintenance page of Betnomi since the start of this month. Ask Sorsis about the exact date instead of 'soon'. He isn't replying to anyone else. You are standing here as a big wall between Betnomi's forum reputation and the current situation. Now the situation isn't only about when the platform will work again, they have to get out of their unprofessional behaviour too. Your reputation is covering Betnomi now in the Bitcointalk forum.
We are already used to the term soon in cryptocurrency,  when a team make such a statement what it means is that there is a possibility for them to make some form of statement regarding the condition of their project but not certain when such information will come up with such information,  and at the same time,  soon could mean wait forever,  so the reality of this statement lays with what the action of the team becomes going forward from this point.

Betnomi use to be very active here in the forum for over a long time, before this current crisis that is rocking the casinos and what the condition of things is because something is definitely wrong with the operations of this once great casino.
legendary
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July 24, 2023, 12:39:05 PM
Btw ... today Sorsis told me that he will answer in the thread soon (I asked him about when the platform will work).
We are also watching the word soon on the maintenance page of Betnomi since the start of this month. Ask Sorsis about the exact date instead of 'soon'. He isn't replying to anyone else. You are standing here as a big wall between Betnomi's forum reputation and the current situation. Now the situation isn't only about when the platform will work again, they have to get out of their unprofessional behaviour too. Your reputation is covering Betnomi now in Bitcointalk forum.
legendary
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July 22, 2023, 04:04:42 PM

I believe the question first of all should be, what exactly is this maintenance that have lasted almost a week and we are yet to discover what they are truly maintaining, are they rebuilding the website from scratch? or rebuilding the database?
what ever the problem is or be, courtesy demands that they should have at least communicated to their users if  really they had any regard and respect for them..

I don't know about any other person but lets assume i had money on this casino, i probably consider it lost by now, cus it seems that the casino may likely not come back, but then, assuming they return back, i will just withdraw my money and chose another casino and start playing there, because I cant immediately continue to trust this casino after such a behavior .
The thing is that, betnomi team have already violated the customer's right and all other business contract agreement, and at this point there should be tagged because they deserve it, how can a business close down on their clients for almost a month and nothing is done about it, there has not been any form of updates from the team and even their representatives have also not been responsive in queries.

More also their lock players out of the casino by not allowing them to have access to their balance in the casino and this is so bad that even the user's balance is not even displayed.

I agree,it has been near one month now and they should have at least let their customers withdraw their funds before going in upgrade/maintenance mode whatever that they are doing.I still hope they come back online as if they don't this set a very bad and dangerous precedent for all online casinos because Betnomi had a lot of customer base from what I saw in their chat as long as I was participating in the Champions League pool sponsored generously to tell the truth by them.

The bad thing is time,the more time it passes the more chances are high of them never coming back.
hero member
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July 22, 2023, 03:57:32 PM
Today I received another spam email in address I used for registering on Betnomi website but this time I have a screenshot!
This is second spam email I received and all that is happening while betnomi website is not working for weeks  Tongue
Maybe it is time for members to start writing negative feedbacks and scam accusations.



The email does not seems to come from Betnomi but is seems that they have given your emails to third party sites (maybe sold the gamblers emails) and now getting different offers from different sites  Huh (most of them may be fake and made for scamming purpose). That's why i usually register on gambling side with my secondary email address so my primary email is free of spam.

Betnomi deserves the negative feedback but this negative feedback will have no effect as it seems they already quit and same time maybe sold their KYC and other database.
hero member
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July 22, 2023, 02:29:46 PM

I believe the question first of all should be, what exactly is this maintenance that have lasted almost a week and we are yet to discover what they are truly maintaining, are they rebuilding the website from scratch? or rebuilding the database?
what ever the problem is or be, courtesy demands that they should have at least communicated to their users if  really they had any regard and respect for them..

I don't know about any other person but lets assume i had money on this casino, i probably consider it lost by now, cus it seems that the casino may likely not come back, but then, assuming they return back, i will just withdraw my money and chose another casino and start playing there, because I cant immediately continue to trust this casino after such a behavior .
The thing is that, betnomi team have already violated the customer's right and all other business contract agreement, and at this point there should be tagged because they deserve it, how can a business close down on their clients for almost a month and nothing is done about it, there has not been any form of updates from the team and even their representatives have also not been responsive in queries.

More also their lock players out of the casino by not allowing them to have access to their balance in the casino and this is so bad that even the user's balance is not even displayed.
legendary
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July 22, 2023, 02:18:19 PM
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If Betnomi pays me my money, I will gladly give you $150 (although my records show that you were not credited $50).

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Btw ... today Sorsis told me that he will answer in the thread soon (I asked him about when the platform will work).



This is a very good news for me. From my experience, I can only say good things about Betnomi, and I can't even imagine an "exit scam" like some people in this thread suggesting. I believe they are honest people and they value their reputation. They may have some difficulties at the moment, but no way it's intentional. I wish Betnomi to overcome all their troubles and be back online and well soon.

You can't blame the people here if they think Betnomi did an exit scam. It all starts with withdrawals not pushing through, the support staff not replying, and literally a non-functional website. Also, no announcements prior to all these were made, hence people jumping to speculation about what could have happened. The patterns can also be seen on other exit scams from gambling platforms in the past, and that's where people are basing their initial judgment.
hero member
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July 22, 2023, 09:44:11 AM

How can you value your reputation and not post a single explanation about a website being offline for 3 full weeks now? And how is that not intentional if you have logged in to your representative account several times in this forum (as we all can see)?

Betwrong is posting based on his experience as he already mention so clearly he has high hopes on this project and with extended understanding unlike other users here that doesn’t have any experience participating on the Betnomi contests when they are still active here.

On normal user point of view, You are right on your speculation about Bernomi since 3 weeks is already too long for being offline but still many have faith on them  since most of us here knew Betnomi for many years with their active contest and giveaway here.

Just like you, I consider this as scam too until they come back.
full member
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July 22, 2023, 09:15:07 AM
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If Betnomi pays me my money, I will gladly give you $150 (although my records show that you were not credited $50).

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Btw ... today Sorsis told me that he will answer in the thread soon (I asked him about when the platform will work).



This is a very good news for me. From my experience, I can only say good things about Betnomi, and I can't even imagine an "exit scam" like some people in this thread suggesting. I believe they are honest people and they value their reputation. They may have some difficulties at the moment, but no way it's intentional. I wish Betnomi to overcome all their troubles and be back online and well soon.

How can you value your reputation and not post a single explanation about a website being offline for 3 full weeks now? And how is that not intentional if you have logged in to your representative account several times in this forum (as we all can see)?
legendary
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I stand with Ukraine.
July 22, 2023, 06:46:20 AM
[...]
If Betnomi pays me my money, I will gladly give you $150 (although my records show that you were not credited $50).

Quote

Btw ... today Sorsis told me that he will answer in the thread soon (I asked him about when the platform will work).



This is a very good news for me. From my experience, I can only say good things about Betnomi, and I can't even imagine an "exit scam" like some people in this thread suggesting. I believe they are honest people and they value their reputation. They may have some difficulties at the moment, but no way it's intentional. I wish Betnomi to overcome all their troubles and be back online and well soon.
jr. member
Activity: 151
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July 20, 2023, 05:56:31 AM
I received a response from Sorsis last week, but I haven't been paid yet.

As far as I know at the moment the Betnomi owe money to me and another user (I also shared this information with the mentioned user). To be honest, I'm a little tired of these expectations and decided to change the signature today.

This industry is becoming increasingly cut-throat for a variety of reasons. Fees being charged on operators have become more expensive than before.
I received spam email from someone called CryptoBonuses and it was redirecting to website Crashout, that all looks a lot like scam.
Maybe Betnomi data was hacked or something else happened, but this is first time I heard about this websites.

You don't get a pass. You were happy when they were paying you (but not others). At least some karma has been applied here.
legendary
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July 19, 2023, 05:38:08 PM
Some interesting side note, maybe: https://uspto.report/TM/98019628 - Betnomi trademark application filed less than two months ago Wink
It is interesting to see that owner of Betnomi, called Sorsis, made several trademark applications in the same time when he applied for Betnomi.
Maybe this means he is not giving up and he just rebranded to different name, like I speculated before, and he does not want to have any connection with Betnomi:
https://uspto.report/company/Sorsis-Chatwin

Needless to say that instead of worrying about some trademark, one should probably be more worried about actually running your business professionally, paying people (players, employees, affiliate partners), not sharing ID docs of clients in public forums, not blackmailing players and/or affiliate partners, not stealing from affiliate partners, not running some bs fake ico etc. etc.
You know many people earned lots of money in crypto, so dont expect everyone in this space to be proffesionals.
I remember one guy Sulim Malook from UK who scammed a lot of people, and he made many videos and official sponsorship with big Italian and Premier League clubs, Atalanta and Wolverhampton.
CryptoMillionsLotto Sulim Malook should be in jail, but maybe he ends up in much worse place  Tongue
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-cryptomillionslotto-luckygiftcards-sulim-malook-5385137

Btw ... today Sorsis told me that he will answer in the thread soon (I asked him about when the platform will work).
I dont know how he can expect to keep any reputation in forum after what was happening in last few weeks.
legendary
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July 19, 2023, 05:29:58 PM
Are you planning to make Bundesliga pool for next season?
Yes, it's already decided! Cygan will announce this soon.
legendary
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Slava Ukraini!
July 19, 2023, 05:27:49 PM
If Betnomi pays me my money, I will gladly give you $150 (although my records show that you were not credited $50).

Money that I got on ballance was from yellow cap rewards and maybe some other contests, can't recall exactlly. I got $50 free bet after season, but I wasn't able to use it. No idea why, but it was only allowed to use it on World Cup games, more than half year after World Cup ended:

P.S. Sorry for off-topic, but since topic is locked, I'll ask here. Are you planning to make Bundesliga pool for next season?
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