Topic: Whats happening with Betnomi? - page 16. (Read 4361 times)

Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 14, 2023, 12:52:55 PM

the customers are more apprehensive than we can imagine.

Are they? Reading this thread, seems if you pay someone to post on the forum (although he claims to not work there???), do advertising, do more advertising, POKER TOURNAMENTS, you're good to go. Disappear for a while, no big deal. And if they don't come back, no one's gonna be able to do anything anyway. Win-win.

You raise a good argument but are definitely way off on facts and what actually happens. Betnomi is definitely not respecting their players, affiliates, promoters, or anyone else but disappearing. They did make a statement, so we just have to wait a little time. We don't know the whole story( they could help by telling the people what's up), but after a certain period tags will start flying. It's not as if they can disappear and reappear a year later and expect 0 repercussions.

Regardless of what's up with Betnomi, the truth is that they did not respect their clients and to this point, they have violated the terms of service in the sense that even though the Betnomi team has either financial or technical issues their should be able to make a public statement about that in the situation where they just went silent is not good and doesn't show any sign of respect to their players.

Pushing for a case against them may be the best way to go, just as Yahoo said only verifiable cases with evidence and fact will be taken seriously and that drag us down to the question of how many of that complainant have evidence since the casino just parked up most players weren't expecting it so there may not save any records from the site.

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The people that have money stuck on the platform(who aren't scammers) can create flags if they wish and try to get support. There are also scam accusations that can be made(show actual proof you're being scammed, not just complaints where you cheated and cannot get paid). Betnomi isn't getting a free pass, people are just waiting for an explanation.

Surprisingly, no one has created a scam accusation against Betnomi during this downtime. Even there is no complaints on Trustpilot about the stuck funds and their downtime. I can see only two open complaints against Betnomi on Casino Guru, where one of those complaints is waiting to get replies from Betnomi team. Perhaps, most of the users waiting with a positive mindset that Betnomi will come back soon.

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Quote from: cicadasTR on July 13, 2023, 04:53:18 AM

Quote from: cicadasTR on July 13, 2023, 04:53:18 AM

the customers are more apprehensive than we can imagine.

Are they? Reading this thread, seems if you pay someone to post on the forum (although he claims to not work there???), do advertising, do more advertising, POKER TOURNAMENTS, you're good to go. Disappear for a while, no big deal. And if they don't come back, no one's gonna be able to do anything anyway. Win win.

You raise a good argument but are definitely way off on facts and what actually happens. Betnomi is definitely not respecting their players, affiliates, promoters, or anyone else but disappearing. They did make a statement, so we just have to wait a little time. We don't know the whole story( they could help by telling the people whats up), but after a certain period tags will start flying. It's not as if they can disappear and reappear a year later and expect 0 repercussions.

The people that have money stuck on the platform(who aren't scammers) can create flags if they wish and try to get support. There are also scam accusations that can be made(show actual proof you're being scammed, not just complaints where you cheated and cannot get paid). Betnomi isn't getting a free pass, people are just waiting for an explanation.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on July 13, 2023, 03:49:57 PM

the customers are more apprehensive than we can imagine.

Are they? Reading this thread, seems if you pay someone to post on the forum (although he claims to not work there???), do advertising, do more advertising, POKER TOURNAMENTS, you're good to go. Disappear for a while, no big deal. And if they don't come back, no one's gonna be able to do anything anyway. Win win.

Forum is just giving them some consideration given their circumstances since they already invested a lot here and we benefits on some of their giveaways/promotions here. It's not that they are already turned into scam but we will definitely behave accordingly if they will be proven scam.

Giving them more time considering their previous contribution will not gonna hurt. Also accusing them as scammer now will not gonna make their casino active in an instant.

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Quote from: CryptSafe on July 13, 2023, 03:12:56 PM

To the best of my knowledge based on the previous replies I have read here they disabled deposit and are working on their pending withdrawals which they have promised they would sort out and for the fact that they did not inform or made public announcement as regards their predicament, lies the issue they are currently facing with their clients. This has raised eyebrows towards their direction and possibly given room for names calling on their casino. That was a big mistake they had made.

^That is a wrong move.
Lack of communication and public announcement regarding their predicament has understandably caused frustration among their clients. It is unfortunate that their actions have led to criticism and name-calling directed at the casino. Transparency and clear communication are very important for maintaining trust in any business, especially in the realm of online gambling. While it is important to acknowledge the mistake they made in not promptly informing their clients about the situation, it is also not good to give them an opportunity to rectify the issue and address the concerns raised. I saw one of their promoter managers has been tagged and I think that is not good.

Transparency and communication is indeed the key to trust and longevity in business when it has to do with organizations such as casinos and others that renders services of that nature. They really got it wrong at first trying to prevent their lapses from their clients forgetting that "internal wounds always finds it way out of the body for people to know".
Keeping the masses abreast of developments helps in easing the possible or potential out burst as expected even if it occurs, it would not be that disasterous to cause havock in such organization as the case may be.
I have no doubt if truly their promoter manager gets a tag because nobody would be happy at such situations that your funds are being held by a casino which the public already beginning to accuse of exit scam.

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Quote from: CryptSafe on July 13, 2023, 03:12:56 PM

To the best of my knowledge based on the previous replies I have read here they disabled deposit and are working on their pending withdrawals which they have promised they would sort out and for the fact that they did not inform or made public announcement as regards their predicament, lies the issue they are currently facing with their clients. This has raised eyebrows towards their direction and possibly given room for names calling on their casino. That was a big mistake they had made.

^That is a wrong move.
Lack of communication and public announcement regarding their predicament has understandably caused frustration among their clients. It is unfortunate that their actions have led to criticism and name-calling directed at the casino. Transparency and clear communication are very important for maintaining trust in any business, especially in the realm of online gambling. While it is important to acknowledge the mistake they made in not promptly informing their clients about the situation, it is also not good to give them an opportunity to rectify the issue and address the concerns raised. I saw one of their promoter managers has been tagged and I think that is not good.

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Quote from: CryptSafe on July 13, 2023, 04:07:52 AM

For the main time everyone needs to avoid Betnomi to see if they're coming back again and rectify all the issues or be on the safer side by avoiding the casino because this may be a clear case of exit from the market, just like a few members have mentioned in the comment it clear that the gambling industry is becoming a highly competitive one and at that, most of the casinos that lack liquidities could easily close their doors to business since there will not be able to meet up with the operational cost to keep the casino running.

It is normal that when such occurrences takes place, one would need to take caution so as not to fall victim of the situation. From the previous posts I have been reading I think there is possibility that they would return because they have promised to make processing pending withdrawals for members and also fix up things properly even at then, the competition as you have mentioned is very high and from the looks, seems they are out of ideas on how to restructure their organization hence the delay in activities. But it would be nice for them to hasten up with whatever they are doing so as to take their place and retain their position otherwise some other casinos with high competitive features will take their place and when that happens, they have lost it all as nobody would come their way anymore.

No matter the situation that they are going through at the moment, they should have made the customers aware of or a clue that they won't be up for a certain time to a certain time and also disable the deposit and review withdrawals from their customers before going off if it is temporary but now with the whole scene, the customers are more apprehensive than we can imagine. It is really unfortunate that maintainance was not made public before they went off for the moment.

To the best of my knowledge based on the previous replies I have read here they disabled deposit and are working on their pending withdrawals which they have promised they would sort out and for the fact that they did not inform or made public announcement as regards their predicament, lies the issue they are currently facing with their clients. This has raised eyebrows towards their direction and possibly given room for names calling on their casino. That was a big mistake they had made.

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No matter the situation that they are going through at the moment, they should have made the customers aware of or a clue that they won't be up for a certain time to a certain time and also disable the deposit and review withdrawals from their customers before going off if it is temporary but now with the whole scene, the customers are more apprehensive than we can imagine. It is really unfortunate that maintainance was not made public before they went off for the moment.

Yes that's why of course there's a lot of concern about it for users who might be waiting for the site to come back again, but as we can see that it's been quite a while since the site hasn't come back, although some reps have said something reassuring that they will be back, but it would be better if they going away or indeed coming back, at least they told everyone that in their thread on the forums.

Yes it's a shame when they don't publish it all their users may feel confused and worried whether they will leave the site or will come back with something new , I'm sure many expected them to come back soon , I also want to see how they develop in some time going forward, will they stop everything

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Quote from: CryptSafe on July 13, 2023, 04:07:52 AM

the customers are more apprehensive than we can imagine.

Are they? Reading this thread, seems if you pay someone to post on the forum (although he claims to not work there???), do advertising, do more advertising, POKER TOURNAMENTS, you're good to go. Disappear for a while, no big deal. And if they don't come back, no one's gonna be able to do anything anyway. Win win.

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For the main time everyone needs to avoid Betnomi to see if they're coming back again and rectify all the issues or be on the safer side by avoiding the casino because this may be a clear case of exit from the market, just like a few members have mentioned in the comment it clear that the gambling industry is becoming a highly competitive one and at that, most of the casinos that lack liquidities could easily close their doors to business since there will not be able to meet up with the operational cost to keep the casino running.

It is normal that when such occurrences takes place, one would need to take caution so as not to fall victim of the situation. From the previous posts I have been reading I think there is possibility that they would return because they have promised to make processing pending withdrawals for members and also fix up things properly even at then, the competition as you have mentioned is very high and from the looks, seems they are out of ideas on how to restructure their organization hence the delay in activities. But it would be nice for them to hasten up with whatever they are doing so as to take their place and retain their position otherwise some other casinos with high competitive features will take their place and when that happens, they have lost it all as nobody would come their way anymore.

No matter the situation that they are going through at the moment, they should have made the customers aware of or a clue that they won't be up for a certain time to a certain time and also disable the deposit and review withdrawals from their customers before going off if it is temporary but now with the whole scene, the customers are more apprehensive than we can imagine. It is really unfortunate that maintainance was not made public before they went off for the moment.

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Quote from: CryptSafe on July 13, 2023, 04:07:52 AM

For the main time everyone needs to avoid Betnomi to see if they're coming back again and rectify all the issues or be on the safer side by avoiding the casino because this may be a clear case of exit from the market, just like a few members have mentioned in the comment it clear that the gambling industry is becoming a highly competitive one and at that, most of the casinos that lack liquidities could easily close their doors to business since there will not be able to meet up with the operational cost to keep the casino running.

Their chat was full of people talking there so I doubt very much the case here is a operative cost that could not be met.I and many others are still waiting for the "renewed" website for Betnomi that their representatives have promised although it has been quite a long time now for restructuring a website,no matter how heavy this website may be.

It is true that the online gambling is becoming extremely competitive however also the user base is always on the increase and will always be disgruntled people in a certain casino for a certain point that they will move to another so I don't see this as a problem.

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For the main time everyone needs to avoid Betnomi to see if they're coming back again and rectify all the issues or be on the safer side by avoiding the casino because this may be a clear case of exit from the market, just like a few members have mentioned in the comment it clear that the gambling industry is becoming a highly competitive one and at that, most of the casinos that lack liquidities could easily close their doors to business since there will not be able to meet up with the operational cost to keep the casino running.

It is normal that when such occurrences takes place, one would need to take caution so as not to fall victim of the situation. From the previous posts I have been reading I think there is possibility that they would return because they have promised to make processing pending withdrawals for members and also fix up things properly even at then, the competition as you have mentioned is very high and from the looks, seems they are out of ideas on how to restructure their organization hence the delay in activities. But it would be nice for them to hasten up with whatever they are doing so as to take their place and retain their position otherwise some other casinos with highly competitive features will take their place and when that happens, they have lost it all as nobody would come their way anymore.

I agree with you on that because for the site to have parked up without any notice to their players means that there is a lot to this situation and I am sure if the team really means business then there should come by at some point to inform their customers and visitors to the site on the true nature of things with betnomi, I am sure thing will feel a lot better that way, but for them to keep mute ever since this crisis started is not a good sign and players will definitely lose interest and trust on the casino.

Betnomi has held a lot of exciting poker tournaments here in the forum and has even had hard weeks run off of the signature campaign which is a pointer that the casino started well and should be able to maintain that standard.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on July 12, 2023, 12:54:44 PM

For the main time everyone needs to avoid Betnomi to see if they're coming back again and rectify all the issues or be on the safer side by avoiding the casino because this may be a clear case of exit from the market, just like a few members have mentioned in the comment it clear that the gambling industry is becoming a highly competitive one and at that, most of the casinos that lack liquidities could easily close their doors to business since there will not be able to meet up with the operational cost to keep the casino running.

It is normal that when such occurrences takes place, one would need to take caution so as not to fall victim of the situation. From the previous posts I have been reading I think there is possibility that they would return because they have promised to make processing pending withdrawals for members and also fix up things properly even at then, the competition as you have mentioned is very high and from the looks, seems they are out of ideas on how to restructure their organization hence the delay in activities. But it would be nice for them to hasten up with whatever they are doing so as to take their place and retain their position otherwise some other casinos with high competitive features will take their place and when that happens, they have lost it all as nobody would come their way anymore.

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For the main time everyone needs to avoid Betnomi to see if they're coming back again and rectify all the issues or be on the safer side by avoiding the casino because this may be a clear case of exit from the market, just like a few members have mentioned in the comment it clear that the gambling industry is becoming a highly competitive one and at that, most of the casinos that lack liquidities could easily close their doors to business since there will not be able to meet up with the operational cost to keep the casino running.

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Quote from: swogerino on July 10, 2023, 07:10:57 AM

Quote from: illmatic010101 on July 10, 2023, 05:20:05 AM

All of this not looking good, my account had the same fate. Have not been able to withdraw for couple of days now. All we can do is hope and wait that they have not scam exited the scene Shocked

It has been a bit to long down on maintenance but the people involved there have said that within some days or weeks max they will have a complete renewed version of the site,so they are working a lot in order to bring the site back according to these people.However we all feel the same,we all hope that a good company like Betnomi should be back online soon otherwise we would be witnessing one of the worse precedent from the reputable casinos who happen to go offline,we have ton of other options but the more the merrier I think to satisfy all gamblers needs.

The thing is, why are these updates coming from people involved but the team isn't announcing anything or haven't let their community know about any updates and changes they were about to make before they take the website offline? People who are worried or questioning the integrity of the platform are not wrong because there hasn't been proper communication from the team about this and this is wrong because they should have done it.

All this is basically ruining their reputation very badly and they need to understand this, users who are facing issues with either withdrawals that are stuck or those who have balance in their accounts are all panicking because they fear if the platform will be back or not, team should act quickly about this.

As per the recent update that forwarded here by Icopress through his contact, There’s a problem inside the Betnomi team that is out of his control. He is the guy that in-charge for communication with Betnomi so that means that Betnomi communication will be halted too since the problem is within them. i think no one from them predicted that this issue will hit them which is why the maintenance is taking too long than expected.

They build their reputation here by investing a lot of funds on sponsorship and marketing. They knew what’s the impact of this maintenance for their reputation. I think they just can’t do about it given their situation. Let’s just wait for them to come back since worrying will not make this maintenance faster if there’s a real big problem behind.

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Quote from: swogerino on July 10, 2023, 07:10:57 AM

Quote from: illmatic010101 on July 10, 2023, 05:20:05 AM

All of this not looking good, my account had the same fate. Have not been able to withdraw for couple of days now. All we can do is hope and wait that they have not scam exited the scene Shocked

It has been a bit to long down on maintenance but the people involved there have said that within some days or weeks max they will have a complete renewed version of the site,so they are working a lot in order to bring the site back according to these people.However we all feel the same,we all hope that a good company like Betnomi should be back online soon otherwise we would be witnessing one of the worse precedent from the reputable casinos who happen to go offline,we have ton of other options but the more the merrier I think to satisfy all gamblers needs.

The thing is, why are these updates coming from people involved but the team isn't announcing anything or haven't let their community know about any updates and changes they were about to make before they take the website offline? People who are worried or questioning the integrity of the platform are not wrong because there hasn't been proper communication from the team about this and this is wrong because they should have done it.

All this is basically ruining their reputation very badly and they need to understand this, users who are facing issues with either withdrawals that are stuck or those who have balance in their accounts are all panicking because they fear if the platform will be back or not, team should act quickly about this.

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Quote from: cicadasTR on July 11, 2023, 02:19:44 PM

I guarantee if they do come back, all will be forgotten and people will carry on playing there. Their feedback isn't affected. Not even a flag. This forum has had a problem with scam sites for a long time.

If they get back and resolve all the issues that have been complained about them including releasing customer's money, I think that should settle the whole stuff and it will build back confidence and trust but if they don't do that to the fullest satisfaction of complaints then it will not speak positive on them and will discourage bettors playing with them.

I think some earlier posts shows that there were some quotes text which shows some statement from their team promising to make refunds gradually but I think they should just do that speedily and focus on resolving whatever issues they are facing so as to avoid unnecessary dramas from the public because if that should happen then that is the end of the road for betnomi.

If they are facing challenges of funding, the simple thing is just to source for investors willing to invest in their casino as it would not cost them anything much to do that and mind you investors are everywhere looking for where to put their funds not to talk of when it is a casino that generates huge funds.

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Quote from: cicadasTR on July 11, 2023, 04:13:24 PM

Quote from: cicadasTR on July 11, 2023, 02:19:44 PM

I guarantee if they do come back, all will be forgotten and people will carry on playing there. Their feedback isn't affected. Not even a flag. This forum has had a problem with scam sites for a long time.

If they get back and resolve all the issues that have been complained about them including releasing customer's money, I think that should settle the whole stuff and it will build back confidence and trust

Reread that to yourself and see if there's a problem. To be fair to betnomi, when people are this simple they're asking to get scammed.

Even though there has always been room for second chances, I can't help but agree with you, there is a level some thing will get to, still believing there is a chance of life becomes stupidity..

The way Betnomi went about this upgrade, or rather maintenance thing is rather suspicious, no before hand information of any kind to their users/community, not even a post on their Twitter account concerning the issue, Infact, last Twitter on their handle is far back as may, it is really not encouraging at all.

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Quote from: cicadasTR on July 11, 2023, 02:19:44 PM

I guarantee if they do come back, all will be forgotten and people will carry on playing there. Their feedback isn't affected. Not even a flag. This forum has had a problem with scam sites for a long time.

If they get back and resolve all the issues that have been complained about them including releasing customer's money, I think that should settle the whole stuff and it will build back confidence and trust but if they don't do that to the fullest satisfaction of complaints then it will not speak positive on them and will discourage bettors playing with them.

I doubt people will still put their trust in a platform that has gone AWOL on the issues that they are encountering. It's really hard to give your trust to a platform that has abandoned your concerns while you're having it. It gives you the vibes of them not being worthy of handling money to run a business.

I'd take my business somewhere else. Betnomi was good when they are on top of things but right now, they're really dodgy and doing something shady that I'm sure most people out here don't like.

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