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Quote from: Hispo on August 03, 2023, 07:32:22 PM

To be honest when I saw this topic in the gambling section I was not expecting this casino to be pulling off some exit scam whatsoever, but when I read the topic started by Coinbox1 I realized all this situation was worse than I imagined.

Quote from: Coinbox1 on August 03, 2023, 09:11:45 AM

To all Betnomi victims:

TrustDice is officially offering a free bonus to Betnomi victims. More details can be found here.

I personally find endearing this action, seeking to give something to those who lost money to scammers, but perhaps this could be seen as an attempt to monetize from the disgrace of a community, keeping in mind what is going on. Just my opinion, of course, I am sure many of the victims will appreciate such "relief".

Yeah I saw that thread and I am dual on what to think about it.First of all Betnomi set a real bad bad precedent for any new coming casino wanting to open business here,they even sponsored the Champions League pool last year and I thought they are doing very well and have money to spare.I think the owners of Betnomi were plain stupid if they shut down business and are happy with what amount they scammed from the users,if they continue business as usual they would be making a lot more profit like any other casino in the long run,what a bunch of idiots.

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To be honest when I saw this topic in the gambling section I was not expecting this casino to be pulling off some exit scam whatsoever, but when I read the topic started by Coinbox1 I realized all this situation was worse than I imagined.

Quote from: Coinbox1 on August 03, 2023, 09:11:45 AM

To all Betnomi victims:

TrustDice is officially offering a free bonus to Betnomi victims. More details can be found here.

I personally find endearing this action, seeking to give something to those who lost money to scammers, but perhaps this could be seen as an attempt to monetize from the disgrace of a community, keeping in mind what is going on. Just my opinion, of course, I am sure many of the victims will appreciate such "relief".

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Quote from: Hamphser on August 03, 2023, 03:35:06 PM

Quote from: QueenVera on August 03, 2023, 03:20:02 PM

About last month their was an indication on their site saying that they're under maintenance and it lasted for several weeks without and change or improvemen,but i was just surprised to notice that their site have crashed when I logged in recently, that's very bad and I'm glad i didn't fall victim to lose of funds from their site, I feel so sad for bettors that had huge amount of money left to be withdrawn on the platform it's so sad because alot of users would lose thousands if not millions of money.
Losing more to a gambling platform due to reckless betting is very annoying most times talk more of losing a huge sum of money to a gambling platform due to a crash, this is very painful and could cause some emotional traumas to many individuals, I'm just wondering if it's possible for them to get back their funds and how, also if it's possible that they could take some legal steps to get compensated, I feel pity for them, if you've got any family or friends that's lost huge money to betnomi please console them.

If everything turns out to be traceable when it comes to Betnomis owners or part of the team then for sure this would really be having that legal approach and steps from those victims specially to those who had lost huge

sums of money on their account. This is one the risks on putting up your money on some other platform on which you dont really possess the keys of such wallet. There's no way that you could really be able to assure your safety with those funds which it is already that expected. Popular platforms or sites or services could really be that ending up on a scam. Possible reasons? They arent profitable anymore or being bankrupt and decided to ran away with those users funds on which all that they had left. It is really that sad that they do really end up on this way or another one bites the dust and to those people who had been affected on this one.

I was able to read up the issue due to some post on Services section about on having those help into those betnomi users. How they would be able to determine legit
users to those who are just that pretending?

Can't really put the blame on the trusting users now but I couldn't agree with you more. These types of bad situations just drives the notion of "not your keys not your money" even more. I don't think they will be that traceable as apparently they already had issues in the past of using fake identities to represent themselves in the public, and I know that those were already taken care of but at the same time it's a little disencouraging to think that it could just be them using fake identities all along, but whatever. Efforts are being taken by multiple parties if I'm not mistaken to at least catch the perpetrators or hold them accountable, and I don't think it's the fact that they are no longer turning in a profit that's causing this to happen, Betnomi's one of the longest running campaigns here, and at the same time they had consistent monthly users, this is just a case of biding your time and submitting to your own greed.

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Quote from: QueenVera on August 03, 2023, 03:20:02 PM

About last month their was an indication on their site saying that they're under maintenance and it lasted for several weeks without and change or improvemen,but i was just surprised to notice that their site have crashed when I logged in recently, that's very bad and I'm glad i didn't fall victim to lose of funds from their site, I feel so sad for bettors that had huge amount of money left to be withdrawn on the platform it's so sad because alot of users would lose thousands if not millions of money.
Losing more to a gambling platform due to reckless betting is very annoying most times talk more of losing a huge sum of money to a gambling platform due to a crash, this is very painful and could cause some emotional traumas to many individuals, I'm just wondering if it's possible for them to get back their funds and how, also if it's possible that they could take some legal steps to get compensated, I feel pity for them, if you've got any family or friends that's lost huge money to betnomi please console them.

If everything turns out to be traceable when it comes to Betnomis owners or part of the team then for sure this would really be having that legal approach and steps from those victims specially to those who had lost huge

sums of money on their account. This is one the risks on putting up your money on some other platform on which you dont really possess the keys of such wallet. There's no way that you could really be able to assure your safety with those funds which it is already that expected. Popular platforms or sites or services could really be that ending up on a scam. Possible reasons? They arent profitable anymore or being bankrupt and decided to ran away with those users funds on which all that they had left. It is really that sad that they do really end up on this way or another one bites the dust and to those people who had been affected on this one.

I was able to read up the issue due to some post on Services section about on having those help into those betnomi users. How they would be able to determine legit
users to those who are just that pretending?

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Quote from: Coinbox1 on August 03, 2023, 09:11:45 AM

To all Betnomi victims:

TrustDice is officially offering a free bonus to Betnomi victims. More details can be found here.

Nice one from your team and I hope you are successful in the quest to relieve the pains of the victim is the scam exit, betnomi operated for a while here in the forum and they have engaged in activities that attracted many forum members to the casino and that is what has motivated them into gambling on the casino and also leaving a good amount of balance in the account before the closer of operation by the casino.

So all good and let's see what the result of this bonus offer will be and I hope that the wagering requirement will be minimal.

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About last month their was an indication on their site saying that they're under maintenance and it lasted for several weeks without and change or improvemen,but i was just surprised to notice that their site have crashed when I logged in recently, that's very bad and I'm glad i didn't fall victim to lose of funds from their site, I feel so sad for bettors that had huge amount of money left to be withdrawn on the platform it's so sad because alot of users would lose thousands if not millions of money.
Losing more to a gambling platform due to reckless betting is very annoying most times talk more of losing a huge sum of money to a gambling platform due to a crash, this is very painful and could cause some emotional traumas to many individuals, I'm just wondering if it's possible for them to get back their funds and how, also if it's possible that they could take some legal steps to get compensated, I feel pity for them, if you've got any family or friends that's lost huge money to betnomi please console them.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on August 02, 2023, 09:59:04 AM

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One thing with this whole thing is that, even taking legal action against them involves you spending money, and if at the end of the day, such legal action did not help you recover your lost fund from them, it becomes a double loss..

Unfortunately, I have to agree with you. Taking legal steps against Betnomi only makes sense if you either don't care about the money for the lawyers and the effort (flights, ...) or if an insurance would pay for the lawsuit. If neither of these is the case, the risk is simply too great that in addition to the loss on the platform, you will also be stuck with the costs for the lawsuit - if it can be legally brought about at all.

As bad as the loss is for each individual and I do not begrudge anyone such losses but unfortunately the following sentence applies to online gambling platforms, too: Not your keys, not your coins.

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Quote from: Odusko on August 02, 2023, 10:25:13 AM

The majority of Betnomi clients have lost their money and won't be able to recover them ever even if the casino makes a future welcome back. shortly.

Why do you think they won't get their funds back incase there is a come back? They have the details of the customers who registered with them and those who have funds to withdraw. Customers also have prove of playing with them so it won't be a difficult thing to identify those who had account with them. However, it may be a slow process that will take time and some you had issues with the accounts earlier might find it difficult to make a clarification with them but people will get funds back if they did come back.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on August 02, 2023, 09:59:04 AM

One thing with this whole thing is that, even taking legal action against them involves you spending money, and if at the end of the day, such legal action did not help you recover your lost fund from them, it becomes a double loss..
And besides, who and who exactly can we say that are the owners of this casino ? for some reasons, owners of casino always stay anonymous, some say its so that they wont be attacked by gamblers who lost big on the site, but the fact remains that some of this casino owners still use this excuse as a free ticket to scam and while remaining anonymous, reason why it is always advised to never leave big funds on your casino account.

True, when loss from gambling platform as close or trouble with withdrawing there are little chance for us recovery our fund actually with gambling platform have stop operation. Spent our time and money against with gambling platform have been stop operation like Betnomi and not any ideas what have to do exactly this gambling platform.
Based on twitter social media account from Betnomi last updated May 28, its seems have been two months Betnomi not operation yet with their social media account and could get conclusion about this gambling platform have gone, sad for gambler still hold fund in this gambling platform because there are not any way for recovery back your fund.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on August 02, 2023, 09:59:04 AM

Quote from: Eggs96 on August 01, 2023, 08:47:54 PM

Well now with them trying to delete everything they have online, does anyone know of a potential lawsuit or class action lawsuit? I still have screenshots of everything in my account prior to them going offline over a month ago. Hoping perhaps some of us with proof can take some sort of legal action to get our funds back.

One thing with this whole thing is that, even taking legal action against them involves you spending money, and if at the end of the day, such legal action did not help you recover your lost fund from them, it becomes a double loss..
And besides, who and who exactly can we say that are the owners of this casino ? for some reasons, owners of casino always stay anonymous, some say its so that they wont be attacked by gamblers who lost big on the site, but the fact remains that some of this casino owners still use this excuse as a free ticket to scam and while remaining anonymous, reason why it is always advised to never leave big funds on your casino account.

The risk of unable to recover asset when the casino close in on the customers is something that has become the biggest risk with online casinos and more also you end up spending extra money in trying to seek legal redress which in the most case has proven to be a waste of time and energy this is also because of the weak practice of the law that licenses that online casino.
The majority of Betnomi clients have lost their money and won't be able to recover them ever even if the casino makes a future welcome back. shortly.

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Quote from: Eggs96 on August 01, 2023, 08:47:54 PM

Well now with them trying to delete everything they have online, does anyone know of a potential lawsuit or class action lawsuit? I still have screenshots of everything in my account prior to them going offline over a month ago. Hoping perhaps some of us with proof can take some sort of legal action to get our funds back.

One thing with this whole thing is that, even taking legal action against them involves you spending money, and if at the end of the day, such legal action did not help you recover your lost fund from them, it becomes a double loss..
And besides, who and who exactly can we say that are the owners of this casino ? for some reasons, owners of casino always stay anonymous, some say its so that they wont be attacked by gamblers who lost big on the site, but the fact remains that some of this casino owners still use this excuse as a free ticket to scam and while remaining anonymous, reason why it is always advised to never leave big funds on your casino account.

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Lol its sounds like no one in bitcointalk understands what bankruptcy means. I my self run multiple companys and if one of my company would have gone bankrupt that doesnt make me a scammer to my partners and customers, it simply means that the company didnt get to be a success. This is one of the beautiful part of running a business because as a owner you are not liable personally most often times of the company going bankrupt.

The funds and all of the assets will probably go to bancrupcy agent or estate which will handle all of the remaining value of the company in correct order probably, if their is any funds left.

Its sad that betnomi when bankrupt but that doesnt make them autocratically to be scammers. If you have never runned a company i can personally tell you that it is not a ballet. I personally withdrawed over 500k earlier on when they where in their A game with ease. Its sad to see that players have not got their funds back but that doesnt means automaticaly that bankcrupcy is the same as scamming people.

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Well now with them trying to delete everything they have online, does anyone know of a potential lawsuit or class action lawsuit? I still have screenshots of everything in my account prior to them going offline over a month ago. Hoping perhaps some of us with proof can take some sort of legal action to get our funds back.

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Quote from: notblox1 on August 01, 2023, 12:45:19 PM

We know they sent some hardware wallets to community members after winning their giveaways, that was nice from them, but I hope personal information wont end up in wrong hands.
This is one of the reasons why I dont like doing verification on most crypto casinos, and why I refused to do it even when I was offer money for that.
I will repeat again that email address I used for registering on Betnomi started to receive unrelated spam emails recently.

Yep, the email address I used for betnomi has become a spam haven. It looks like it's getting somewhere in the 10-15 spam emails per day from sites I've never visited or been interested in.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 30, 2023, 06:56:30 PM

Quote from: khaled0111 on July 30, 2023, 06:52:34 PM

Quote from: Wiwo on July 30, 2023, 06:38:26 PM

But all the same, we must also give Betnomi some benefits of the doubt to let them know that the community still cares and wish them well as long as the fault of the closer of service is not from them, but it is until they come out to make public notice.

It's really frustrating and disappointing reading replies like this one. Wiwo, do you realize that betnomi's representative has been inactive fir almost a month and didn't make a post or address any of the members concerns fir more than two months. Do you think this is acceptable! I advice everyone to stay away from this casino till they come back online and fix all the issues and address all their customers' concerns.

Stay away? There's no way to login to the place at this time. If they come back, do you really think they are going to fix any issues? They're not going to come back, they have shown us that they do not care what we think.

I agree with you, the best bet right now is to avoid anything close to Betnomi because the casino has shown dishonesty in their dealing with the community who their close in on locking their fund in the casino without any information, so no matter what they come if they ever will, no one will trust them again since they have already betrayed the trust of the community.

I accept the fact that Betnomii was really promoted here in the forum with all the poker tournaments and the rest, but no one know their real intention back then until recently when they showed their true intentions.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 30, 2023, 06:52:28 PM

Correct, they did some good things for the community. I do have to say though, if you had prior information about the type of people who were running the website, it might have been nice to share with the community. @Csmiami. Betnomi may not have had the chance to close the doors with funds of users if we had known.

We know they sent some hardware wallets to community members after winning their giveaways, that was nice from them, but I hope personal information wont end up in wrong hands.
This is one of the reasons why I dont like doing verification on most crypto casinos, and why I refused to do it even when I was offer money for that.
I will repeat again that email address I used for registering on Betnomi started to receive unrelated spam emails recently.

Quote from: Poika5 on August 01, 2023, 11:52:03 AM

It's over, they finally deleted their public Linkedin page.
https://www.linkedin.com/company/betnomi

So now they only have telegram account left alive and there is no activity there at all.

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Quote from: Poika5 on August 01, 2023, 11:52:03 AM

It's over, they finally deleted their public Linkedin page.
https://www.linkedin.com/company/betnomi

Everything was working few days ago:

Sorry to the victims.

Yes, This is a clear sign that they are already decided to exit scam since they are already deleting their online prints to avoid trace for a potential lawsuit.

Too bad they choose to this way after all the expenses they throw for their marketing here in the forum. I’m sure many users here is affected since Betnomi is trusted by many reputable user here due to their promotions.

Quote from: piebeyb on August 01, 2023, 11:59:30 AM

I think that makes sense even though it seems difficult to recover their good name and fix their problems if one day they come back to this forum and announce their new site, maybe a lot of people will be happy and some will lose faith in them, but I won't waiting for them to really come back to us all, because it looks like they have really left this business.

This assumption has a slim chance to happened. They are already deleting their online track if you read the post above yours.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 30, 2023, 06:56:30 PM

Stay away? There's no way to login to the place at this time. If they come back, do you really think they are going to fix any issues? They're not going to come back, they have shown us that they do not care what we think.

I think that makes sense even though it seems difficult to recover their good name and fix their problems if one day they come back to this forum and announce their new site, maybe a lot of people will be happy and some will lose faith in them, but I won't waiting for them to really come back to us all, because it looks like they have really left this business.

Although there's a chance they might come back again but it seems it's been a while since they let people lose faith in this site and made it look like a lot of trouble in this forum a lot of people are popping up reporting losing their access and money on this site. I think they should let it all go because it looks like they are really leaving this business. they're not coming back.

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It's over, they finally deleted their public Linkedin page.
https://www.linkedin.com/company/betnomi

Everything was working few days ago:

Sorry to the victims.

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