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legendary
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December 20, 2023, 04:07:28 AM
Obviously the wife has to quit gambling. The husband has the responsibility to provide money for the family (...)

100% agree


I agree that husbands must be the main money makers in the family, but what if gambling is not about providing money? If gambling is a job, then it is still discussible, but if it having fun, simply spending time, then why women should stand aside? That's how it was in society century ago, men gamble, women stand behind and support. What you agree to is some kind of a stereotype. If we see women smoking, we already gave her a negative tag. Tattoos women body looks amoral. It was all in past. Modern world if different. Like I've posted, if it is not about religion, then there is an equality in gambling.
legendary
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December 19, 2023, 06:52:06 PM
Obviously the wife has to quit gambling. The husband has the responsibility to provide money for the family (...)

100% agree

(...) so it is understandable that he goes into gambling to meet up with the family needs.

You lost me here. Big time. If a man resorts to gambling to provide for a family, he's neither a husband nor father material. With the exception of maybe professional poker players etc, but I consider that to be a skill game, not gambling.

Am still wondering how women who are into gambling tend to mix family responsibilities with gambling. After looking out for the kids, prepare meal for the family, do the dishes and make preparations for the next day. They still have time to gamble.

Most women not only don't gamble at all, but they have oftentimes an unreasonable aversion to gambling. But those who do would likely pick up some quick, online slot games, which you could play anytime on your phone, so doesn't require any massive time commitment.
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December 19, 2023, 06:36:03 PM
Both husband and wife gambles? They need to be careful about their kid because children learn from both parents. So whatever you do or say, your children will listen and copy these behavior. With that said, the last thing you ever want to do is have your young son or daughter start talking about gambling or whatsoever at such an age. Considering that, both parents may need to stop gambling and focus on bringing up their children in a better way and environment.
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December 19, 2023, 06:34:33 PM
Why does it feel like it's the wrong choice to choose both of them to quit, it's not even the options. It's weird that the best course of action in this scenario is not mentioned at all, feels like OP is trying to create a discussion that already has an obvious answer but at the same time OP isn't satisfied with the answer and ends up trying to create an artificial division. This in my opinion is one of the questions that aren't worthy of long discussions because it's not a good question and there's an easy answer.
There's nothing compare to watching your favorite player netting a winning scores to secure down the possibilities of these elite clubs. Quitting indirectly means giving up on your dreams and passion to enjoy and cheered up this season. Long discussions, good winnings happen today, they’re pointed out as evidence for gamblers to keep bringing in amazing offers and packages handled fulltime by the upper hands. Good question deserves good and simple answers in the system. OP brought the topic because he needs our public opinions concerning the whole scenario that happen.
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December 19, 2023, 06:30:46 PM
If they are both able to earn their own money, I think they can both continue to gamble. They can also share household expenses. I think there is a possibility that both of them might get out of control, but it is not a sure thing, and both of them can manage to act responsibly. I don't think it's right to have prejudiced thoughts against this imaginary couple. Cheesy

Well, I find this very difficult to resolve. We cannot force a person to quit gambling. While we are gambling. If economic conditions are good and both people know how to control themselves in gambling and have a lot of free time. Both could use some time to gamble. If either of the people has an addiction and a difficult economic situation, I think both should quit gambling. We cannot gamble in front of people who are addicted to gambling, and they will not be able to go through rehab.
So if both hold tight to gambling while nobody quitting, then what view do you think the society will see such family where both husband and wife are gamblers? Because one true fact that remain is that no matter how both tries to gamble responsibly, inasmuch as both keeps gambling and happens to have children, there is a higher tendency they having one child who is an addictive and chronic gambler, which is the least thing any parent will ever want from his/her child. Hence, one quitting will go a long way curing such menace.


But unless if we are talking about a moderate gambler who do not gamblers all ways, but if we mean full-time gamblers, then both parties are not suitable to be husband and wife.
sr. member
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December 19, 2023, 06:09:17 PM
If they are both able to earn their own money, I think they can both continue to gamble. They can also share household expenses. I think there is a possibility that both of them might get out of control, but it is not a sure thing, and both of them can manage to act responsibly. I don't think it's right to have prejudiced thoughts against this imaginary couple. Cheesy

Yes but the problem is that they act in gambling and not other activities that really give certainty to earn, even though for example they already have a pretty good plan on financial management and gambling but on the other hand honestly I don't really agree if there are people who say that "it's okay to continue gambling" after all this is gambling which is nothing more than luck that can make them get results to divide the expenses of family needs.

Honestly, I am one of the former active gamblers and I have my reasons why I prefer the couple to quit, we have to know that we are human beings and gambling involves things in the human mind such as hopes, expectations, emotions, I am not sure they will really be able to apply self-control and family bankroll management very firmly when both of them are overcome by emotions due to losing, isn't it possible for the couple to act out of control? Obviously, the most difficult thing for human beings to do is when they have to restrain their emotions not to vent, not only in gambling but also in other problems in real life is also the same, the difficulty of managing emotions that eventually act out of control.
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December 19, 2023, 05:50:24 PM
If they are both able to earn their own money, I think they can both continue to gamble. They can also share household expenses. I think there is a possibility that both of them might get out of control, but it is not a sure thing, and both of them can manage to act responsibly. I don't think it's right to have prejudiced thoughts against this imaginary couple. Cheesy

Well, I find this very difficult to resolve. We cannot force a person to quit gambling. While we are gambling. If economic conditions are good and both people know how to control themselves in gambling and have a lot of free time. Both could use some time to gamble. If either of the people has an addiction and a difficult economic situation, I think both should quit gambling. We cannot gamble in front of people who are addicted to gambling, and they will not be able to go through rehab.
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December 19, 2023, 03:22:27 PM
Obviously the wife has to quit gambling. The husband has the responsibility to provide money for the family so it is understandable that he goes into gambling to meet up with the family needs. On the hand the wife's responsibility is to grow and care for the family. Am still wondering how women who are into gambling tend to mix family responsibilities with gambling. After looking out for the kids, prepare meal for the family, do the dishes and make preparations for the next day. They still have time to gamble. Such a woman is strong and i do not have any issue with women in gambling. Am just saying that the both of them should not be gambling at least there should be one who will help manage the other from being addicted.
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December 19, 2023, 03:10:05 PM
If they are both able to earn their own money, I think they can both continue to gamble. They can also share household expenses. I think there is a possibility that both of them might get out of control, but it is not a sure thing, and both of them can manage to act responsibly. I don't think it's right to have prejudiced thoughts against this imaginary couple. Cheesy
legendary
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December 19, 2023, 01:45:43 PM
I don't know how many people here who've seen or rather listened to the new Eminem Juice World song, but it reminds me of gambling and gambling responsibly.  Juice World famously and sadly died of drug OD a few years ago now, and Em famously had a drug issue for years.  So it's a song of responsibility (rare in the Hip Hop genre).  It sort of reminds me of this...if you can do it responsibly then great, if not..you shouldnt be gambling at all.
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December 19, 2023, 12:27:09 PM
Hey house someone need a few clips here, don't know if a post of this exact nature has been discussed though.

In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.

Has it gotten to this stage where gambling is now a debate for couples, who should take care of the home and who should do the house chores and take of the children. I will drop my opinion as a western man and like an African person.

In the west, responsibilities of the children is all on the hand of both parent, the kids need their dad and also their mom, it is not about who is doing the money everyday but priority comes more to who is earning less because that is the person that is will be having free time and look after the kids but the mom must always be available for the basic needs of the kids, is not the work of man to be doing domestic chores and cooking all the time particularly if he is a bad cook, but I'm not sure if gambling is even a career to debate this because I don't know if gambling is going to take the whole days of the parent.

An African man doesn't need to say this twice, it is the responsibility of the man to provide and it is that of the woman to look after the home but if he is doing something extra, fine but she has to look after the kids but still, she need to look after the children and not the man because more of the responsibilities is on his shoulder.
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December 19, 2023, 12:16:38 PM
Why does it feel like it's the wrong choice to choose both of them to quit, it's not even the options. It's weird that the best course of action in this scenario is not mentioned at all, feels like OP is trying to create a discussion that already has an obvious answer but at the same time OP isn't satisfied with the answer and ends up trying to create an artificial division. This in my opinion is one of the questions that aren't worthy of long discussions because it's not a good question and there's an easy answer.
legendary
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December 19, 2023, 12:07:23 PM
Absolutely agree with you guys. I don't understand people who demean women before men. Yes, I understand that some of these people follow their religion, but it seems to me that following such religions in the 21st century is absurd. In my understanding women should have all the same privileges as men, not only in entertainment, but also in other spheres of life, because they are an integral part of the process thanks to which mankind has not yet died out.

It's not entirely because of religious rules, but culture also needs to be considered. All countries have their own cultural rules, this could also be a cause. However, in terms of privileges, I think almost all countries apply the same privileges. Except for those related to culture and religion. We can see now, everyone, both men and woman, can gamble, work or whatever they want. There is nothing wrong with this rule. Rules not made by the government often take precedence over. for example, in certain areas men and women still differentiate in terms of privileges, including not being allowed to gamble, then I think that does not mean they do not fulfill the right to be free, but just following the culture rules.
legendary
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December 19, 2023, 11:54:57 AM
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Absolutely agree with you guys. I don't understand people who demean women before men. Yes, I understand that some of these people follow their religion, but it seems to me that following such religions in the 21st century is absurd. In my understanding women should have all the same privileges as men, not only in entertainment, but also in other spheres of life, because they are an integral part of the process thanks to which mankind has not yet died out.
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December 19, 2023, 11:30:26 AM
This sounds like an old stereotype that married woman place is in the kitchen. If we all agreed that one of gambling aims is about about having fun, then why men can have fun and women dont? I agree to facts, that there are some activities that men do better, and some women do better, some jobs are more suited for men, some for women, but gambling does not require any special skill or body condition. Maybe this has something about your religion, I dont know, but that does not look fair that married women should not gamble.

I agree with you, we shouldn't make gambling only fun for men then women have to be hide to gamble. This isn't the 1800's that women where been stereotype of not gambling in public. Women aren't kitchen tools, they are human beings and they deserve to enjoy life as the men are doing. The woman shouldn't quit only as she's a woman, the man can give up the gambling habit and go out to look for a real job so he can provide for his family.

Gambling is for entertainment therefore the woman should have the turn as she's unlikely to waste all the family money having fun like the husband might do under the impression that he's looking for income to give the family a better life. Gambling is for all gender and I think both of them have to quit if they can't find a solution to make one person to quit without using any stereotype to make the person to quit.
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December 19, 2023, 11:16:38 AM
If both partners are gambling irresponsibly then it will not be long until they find themselves under a tremendous financial pressure, as even a single gambler doing this will put the couple into financial strain, so both of them doing this will only accelerate this process.
It depends on how the couple can handle the gambling they do but I'm not sure they will be able to survive for long in conditions like this. If this whole story is true then I'm sure the couple will have problems maintaining their cash flow and it could be that they will have much bigger problems.

However this is not very common, since this will require that both of them lose control roughly at the same time, and if this does not happen then the one that has yet to do so can see what is happening and begin to take measures to not traverse that path.
It crossed my mind how this couple handled gambling and got around the process of needing to use money to support their daily lives. I think both of them are not active gamblers but gamble only when they have more money and if my assumption is wrong then in the future we will see the couple experiencing great pressure.

The most common thing find is that husbands often gamble and their wives are quite angry when they find out. Rarely do we find incidents like this, where both partners are simultaneously involved in gambling. This is a rare pairing and we can imagine how much fun their lives would have been if they had bet on different outcomes.
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December 19, 2023, 09:28:14 AM
Hey house someone need a few clips here, don't know if a post of this exact nature has been discussed though.

In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.

I have heard about such couples and even watched an interview with a woman from exactly such a relationship. You could say she became a ludomaniac because her husband taught her to gamble. The situation there was like this: the guy was betting in the batting, and the girl started playing slots. As a result, he realized that such a situation would not lead them to anything good. And the girl couldn't quit, I'll say more - she didn't want to and eventually began to lose money very much. They broke up. And the strangest thing is that she still remains an ardent ludomaniac and believes that this is a great way to live.
legendary
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December 19, 2023, 09:23:15 AM
As much as I believe in equal rights, gambling does not suit a woman to be honest, and like I always have said here and will continue to say, I will not marry a woman who gambles, even if I myself gambles, and even if we are already married before I discovered that she gambles, she will have to stop it immediately or I just assume she not ready for marriage.

Like I said before, I believe in equal rights, but the fact remains that there are things that are better suited for men to do and there are other things that see better suited for women to do, and when it comes to gambling, gambling is a man's thing and not for women when they are married, a married woman should not gamble even if she gambled when she was single, she should understand that life when single is different from life when married.

Quite a contradiction there if you are indeed in for equal rights. Though, I understand it must be frustrating to be married to a woman who is also a gambler. Though, you also need to keep in mind that when we are married, the relation is supposed to function as a team work. The woman does her part and so does the man, however, When we talk about women being restricted from gambling what comes to my mind is the fact they usually have more domestics work than the man, and which the man and the children depends on.
If the woman gest addicted to gambling or dedicates much time to it, then she may not have enough time to take care of her family and children, even if the man provides. It is quite a very tough situation to be in, specially when comes from someone who believes in the equality of men and women.
I would be willing to sacrifice most of my gambling time if she does the same and we decided to do other things with our spare time, for the sake of the household finances mostly.

By the way, if you don't mind me to ask. Is this a common way of thinking in your country (the fact women are not supposed to gamble while married) or is rather a personal believe you have adopted by yourself through the years, does it have some roots within your local religious practices?
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December 19, 2023, 08:01:06 AM
I think the answer is clear that the better and the right thing is that if possible then both of them should stop, that's the better thing that should be chosen by both of them if someone asks a question like this. However and no matter how good the financial management they have, if they are still involved in gambling, it is clear that there will be an allocation of money that should not be done, or simply they will find it easier to manage and meet the needs of the family including their children if they have never been involved in gambling, because obviously in terms of money it will definitely be more efficient.

Yes, instead of putting the money into gambling which certainly has a big risk and is always unpredictable, it is clearly better for them to save the money for other purposes in the future such as for the needs of their children or retirement and also including for urgent situations and conditions that require them to have money in sudden conditions. Yes if they already have money saved for future needs then there is nothing wrong if they don't stop but I think however if they can it is better to just stop, gambling uses money and it could be that one day they take the money saved for gambling.

i can agree with you here. because before they know it, their kids are already into gambling and it will be too late to alter their lifestyle. they can still gamble from time to time, like for recreational purposes. if they do want to bet on their favourite teams or athletes, or play some casinos classics in some relaxing days just to have some family fun.

but if they will venture into the gambling world on a serious path. both parties, the mother and the father should understand the possible repercussions not only for themselves but as a family. they need to consider all angles in this lifestyle. and they should be ready for whatever consequences they may encounter.

otherwise, if they can't bear those consequences, better think fast and change their path. before each of them blame about the fate of their family or before they see it in their own eyes how their family is slowly falling apart.

I understand that stopping completely is too difficult or almost impossible if they have entered the addiction zone, but there is always nothing impossible if they are willing to do it with strong determination. I think  in this case it is better for both husband and wife to agree to reduce everything, both in terms of the budget amount and including in terms of hopes and expectations of winning. And if they have succeeded in reducing their interest in gambling then I think everything will be more under control, especially in terms of family financial balance, maybe they will only come when they really want to gamble with the aim of more entertainment and not placing too high hopes on the results. end.

Of course, if they remain serious in their point of view on gambling then it is clear that the impact will definitely be on everyone in the family, meaning that all of their families there will feel the impact, and one of them may be  in terms of the economy declining due to a loss of balance in terms of finance. Yes, if they are unable to bear all the risks resulting from the gambling they do, then perhaps they will blame fate or the fate of their less fortunate family, even though everything can still be overcome if they are willing to make changes, at least reduce it.

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December 19, 2023, 07:01:46 AM
Hey house someone need a few clips here, don't know if a post of this exact nature has been discussed though.

In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.

The problem is not that they both gamble, but that their gambling habits don't let them manage their obligations, right? then they both have a problem of addiction, and I honestly think that both should stop gambling, because if only one quits it will be too hard for her/him to overcome such a hard situation and still be able to help his husband or wife.

The good thing is that it will be easy to understand each other when the craving to play is too strong for any of them, but apart from that I think that it is a really difficult situation to overcome. Like a couple of drug addicts, if they both don't solve each one's problem, it will be really hard for them to keep being together.

Yep, that's true and I agree with what you said. it's better if they stop at the same time because it's also for their own good, the habit or addiction of gambling can leave behind other things that are more important, especially if they are both addicted then it's very likely that there won't be anything more important than the gambling that they make. gambling as a priority in his life, this is certainly not good because just one person who is addicted to gambling can destroy a humorous relationship, especially if both of them are addicted to gambling, I can't imagine what that family would be like. There will also be high egotism from each of them, and this ego might cause a fight between them.

Stopping gambling is not easy, but if someone is married, I think they have to stop because it won't be good if they still like to gamble because it is possible that people who are addicted to gambling will become stubborn individuals who always want to win with their choices. Of course, this must be avoided so that they do not suffer losses in many ways.
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