Hi, i know everyone has a different way of thinking, thats why i would like to share mine.
Well actually im a christianic by default because of my family.And i dont judge mine or any other of the religions thats why i dont count as an atheist but as time passed and i grew up i came to the conclusion that the faith in certain relivion or god is just an emptyness in everyone of us . I think that everyone builds his own path and future by their own beliefs ,acts and desicions. Again no ofense to the most religious type of people reading this reply.
thank you
Topic: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? (Read 901357 times)
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Hey man, thanks for replying to some of my nonsense. This that you quoted of me hereisn't is utter nonsense, however. ....(ftfy)
Hey man, thanks for replying to some of my nonsense. This that you quoted of me here
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Why do you so erroneously think Trump is the only one? Consider Daniel's interpretation of Nebuchadnezzar's dream in Daniel 2. These things were predicted at least years before they happened. Some of the prediction hasn't been fulfilled yet.
Thank You for the indication: I didn't know that bible prediction.
Now relax, and remember Clint Eastwood in Pale Rider. Remember when Club (Richard Kiel) Attacked Clint and his buddy? When it was over, Clint was saying, "Put it in a little ice, that'll take care of it," as he helped Club to his horse. As Club and Josh rode away, you could hear Club saying, "Ice, ice."
Now, just the thought of "ice" Makes you feel better, don't it!
The only person that is still saying that this is the American century is Donald J. Trump: I think the American empire is in its decline.
Why do you so erroneously think Trump is the only one? Consider Daniel's interpretation of Nebuchadnezzar's dream in Daniel 2. These things were predicted at least years before they happened. Some of the prediction hasn't been fulfilled yet.
Quote from: https://biblehub.com/nkjv/daniel/2.htm
36“This is the dream. Now we will tell the interpretation of it before the king. 37You, O king Nebuchadnezzar, are a king of kings. For the God of heaven has given you a kingdom, power, strength, and glory; 38and wherever the children of men dwell, or the beasts of the field and the birds of the heaven, He has given them into your hand, and has made you ruler over them all—you are this head of gold. 39But after you shall arise another kingdom inferior to yours; then another, a third kingdom of bronze, which shall rule over all the earth. 40And the fourth kingdom shall be as strong as iron, inasmuch as iron breaks in pieces and shatters everything; and like iron that crushes, that kingdom will break in pieces and crush all the others. 41Whereas you saw the feet and toes, partly of potter’s clay and partly of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; yet the strength of the iron shall be in it, just as you saw the iron mixed with ceramic clay. 42And as the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly fragile. 43As you saw iron mixed with ceramic clay, they will mingle with the seed of men; but they will not adhere to one another, just as iron does not mix with clay. 44And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever. 45Inasmuch as you saw that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold—the great God has made known to the king what will come to pass after this. The dream is certain, and its interpretation is sure.”
Now relax, and remember Clint Eastwood in Pale Rider. Remember when Club (Richard Kiel) Attacked Clint and his buddy? When it was over, Clint was saying, "Put it in a little ice, that'll take care of it," as he helped Club to his horse. As Club and Josh rode away, you could hear Club saying, "Ice, ice."
Now, just the thought of "ice" Makes you feel better, don't it!
The only person that is still saying that this is the American century is Donald J. Trump: I think the American empire is in its decline.
Hey man, thanks for replying to some of my nonsense. This that you quoted of me here isn't nonsense, however. So I now get to reply to a piece of your nonsense.
Are You a piece of something, you dog... aren't You??
past, present, future.
Now relax, and remember Clint Eastwood in Pale Rider. Remember when Club (Richard Kiel) Attacked Clint and his buddy? When it was over, Clint was saying, "Put it in a little ice, that'll take care of it," as he helped Club to his horse. As Club and Josh rode away, you could hear Club saying, "Ice, ice."
Now, just the thought of "ice" Makes you feel better, don't it!
Hey man, thanks for replying to some of my nonsense. This that you quoted of me here isn't nonsense, however. So I now get to reply to a piece of your nonsense.
Are You a piece of something, you dog... aren't You??
past, present, future.
These are some of the reasons why some atheists hate religion. Religions are reasonably solid. And pure Bible religion is perfectly solid. Atheists hate religion because their atheism religion - which is often based on various science religions - offer no hope. The atheist knows he is going to die, and that without hope of resurrection. And he's willfully ignorant enough that he won't go to the true, solid, Bible based, Christian religion, where he not only gets salvation, but the knowledge of it, as well. Self enragement against something he is willingly accepting as a good thing. Atheists don't make sense in their religion, atheism.
I was replying to your "nonsense" since 2015: the fact that You are still in this thread means that my point is right.
Hey man, thanks for replying to some of my nonsense. This that you quoted of me here isn't nonsense, however. So I now get to reply to a piece of your nonsense.
These are some of the reasons why some atheists hate religion. Religions are reasonably solid. And pure Bible religion is perfectly solid. Atheists hate religion because their atheism religion - which is often based on various science religions - offer no hope. The atheist knows he is going to die, and that without hope of resurrection. And he's willfully ignorant enough that he won't go to the true, solid, Bible based, Christian religion, where he not only gets salvation, but the knowledge of it, as well. Self enragement against something he is willingly accepting as a good thing. Atheists don't make sense in their religion, atheism.
I was replying to your "nonsense" since 2015: the fact that You are still in this thread means that my point is right.
much of science is based on engineering that made it work
Engineering is a form of applied science. This is why it is vital that engineers understand the laws of physics, and particularly the laws of Newtonian mechanics. You can't be an engineer without understanding how forces work.
In general, theory comes before application. Science comes before engineering. It's not the other way around, as you believe. Engineers don't just magically build stuff that works, and then invite scientists to have a look to work out how they did it. This is why, for example, no-one built a Tesla car in medieval times. Engineering is based on science.
science [...] doesn't work.
Scientific theories are falsifiable, yes, that's a fundamental strength that sets it apart from, say, religion. If the theory doesn't work in practice, that simply adds to our understanding, and helps scientists to devise new, better theories. If it does work, then it is reproducible, and anyone with sufficient expertise can verify this.
These are some of the reasons why some atheists hate religion. Religions are reasonably solid. And pure Bible religion is perfectly solid. Atheists hate religion because their atheism religion - which is often based on various science religions - offer no hope. The atheist knows he is going to die, and that without hope of resurrection. And he's willfully ignorant enough that he won't go to the true, solid, Bible based, Christian religion, where he not only gets salvation, but the knowledge of it, as well. Self enragement against something he is willingly accepting as a good thing. Atheists don't make sense in their religion, atheism.
What you consider 'solid' is scientific nonsense and has a moral compass of a serial killer.
Angels on your body, ROFL.
much of science is based on engineering that made it work
Engineering is a form of applied science. This is why it is vital that engineers understand the laws of physics, and particularly the laws of Newtonian mechanics. You can't be an engineer without understanding how forces work.
In general, theory comes before application. Science comes before engineering. It's not the other way around, as you believe. Engineers don't just magically build stuff that works, and then invite scientists to have a look to work out how they did it. This is why, for example, no-one built a Tesla car in medieval times. Engineering is based on science.
science [...] doesn't work.
Scientific theories are falsifiable, yes, that's a fundamental strength that sets it apart from, say, religion. If the theory doesn't work in practice, that simply adds to our understanding, and helps scientists to devise new, better theories. If it does work, then it is reproducible, and anyone with sufficient expertise can verify this.
These are some of the reasons why some atheists hate religion. Religions are reasonably solid. And pure Bible religion is perfectly solid. Atheists hate religion because their atheism religion - which is often based on various science religions - offer no hope. The atheist knows he is going to die, and that without hope of resurrection. And he's willfully ignorant enough that he won't go to the true, solid, Bible based, Christian religion, where he not only gets salvation, but the knowledge of it, as well. Self enragement against something he is willingly accepting as a good thing. Atheists don't make sense in their religion, atheism.
much of science is based on engineering that made it work
Engineering is a form of applied science. This is why it is vital that engineers understand the laws of physics, and particularly the laws of Newtonian mechanics. You can't be an engineer without understanding how forces work.
In general, theory comes before application. Science comes before engineering. It's not the other way around, as you believe. Engineers don't just magically build stuff that works, and then invite scientists to have a look to work out how they did it. This is why, for example, no-one built a Tesla car in medieval times. Engineering is based on science.
science [...] doesn't work.
Scientific theories are falsifiable, yes, that's a fundamental strength that sets it apart from, say, religion. If the theory doesn't work in practice, that simply adds to our understanding, and helps scientists to devise new, better theories. If it does work, then it is reproducible, and anyone with sufficient expertise can verify this.
Lets all just get along y'all. Our atheist brethern all belong to the same human family and have a right to believe or not believe. I would prefer if they did believe but I ain't like those tyrants forcing vaccines on sheople using the not to be questioned false god of science. It's those atheist hypocrites I have a problem with u see ...as with all theist hypocrites
^^^ And the ability of atheists to ignore the fact that much of science is based on engineering that made it work, while much more of it doesn't work.
^^^ What's interesting is that it's only been the last 500 years where people haven't understood the complexity of the universe enough to see God. People have figured out some complex stuff. It made them proud to have done this, and they think that they can figure it all out.
That's actually backwards, it's only the last 200 or so years that people have began to understand the complexity of the universe, and formulate the complexity of the universe into scientific principles of physics, mathematics, etc. It was only within the last couple thousand years that atheism has developed and split from mainstream religious beliefs, this is after religion held its grip on civilization for hundreds of thousands of years.
Really, the correlation is between atheism and advancement of technology/understanding of science.
^^^ What's interesting is that it's only been the last 500 years where people haven't understood the complexity of the universe enough to see God. People have figured out some complex stuff. It made them proud to have done this, and they think that they can figure it all out. Then they die, but they haven't even figured out that most of their simple thinking is only their imagination, and that it isn't even a scratch on what there is to know.
God is a bit sad for them. But He isn't going to deny Himself again, for them. Once denying Himself by denying Jesus was enough.
God is a bit sad for them. But He isn't going to deny Himself again, for them. Once denying Himself by denying Jesus was enough.
But really, the burden of proof lies on the religion fanatics. Considering they impose their religion on so much of their life, you think they'd have some reasoning to believe what they believe. Not just a belief because someone told them so, but actual evidence. Most just use religion as a moral guide or to have a sense of belonging. Not that it would effect anyone, but religion has led to the most pain and suffering in human history. It's possible that all this pain and suffering would have happened anyway, even if it wasn't in the name of god, because let's face it, humans were pretty animalistic before modern moral philosophy.
The burden of proof lies on everybody making a claim.Gyfts is correct, that the burden of proof lies with the theists. The reason for this is that the default, status quo position has to be that God doesn't exist. If you consider the world around you, you see buildings, trees, sky, animals, but no God. You may posit that because you don't understand how the world came to exist, some higher power must have created it... but this idea, in the absence of evidence, is merely that: an idea. And the burden of proof lies especially heavy when the idea is one that, by its nature, can be proven but can never be disproven.
Atheists are not making a claim. Rather, they are saying to the theists: your claim has no supporting evidence. This is apparent in the word itself: a-theism is a response to the theist position.
Not being able to prove the existence of something doesn't necessarily disprove it.
This is a separate issue, and doesn't relate to the question of the burden of proof other than through Russell's Teapot ("the philosophic burden of proof lies upon a person making empirically unfalsifiable claims, rather than shifting the burden of disproof to others").
So I see 2 threads of why islam hates people or why people hate Islam. I dont see the point of such a mundane debate based on religion any debate for or against religion would be stupid. Either you are stupid to believe what a prophet / god / divine entity said or you are stupid enough to believe you can change the minds of the bleak minded people who follow such a prophet / god / divine entity.
But since its fun let me initiate my own brand of 'why do' topic.
WHY DO ATHEISTS (like me) HATE RELIGION ?
Seriously what has to happen in a person's life for them to seriously give up hope on the one true everlasting brand (of religion) which their ancestors have followed for generations.
Everyone has their own story even I have mine, so lets hear some of it.
Atheism or also called atheism is a view, they assume that God does not exist. Atheists are not something new, they have been around since around 1000 BC.But since its fun let me initiate my own brand of 'why do' topic.
WHY DO ATHEISTS (like me) HATE RELIGION ?
Seriously what has to happen in a person's life for them to seriously give up hope on the one true everlasting brand (of religion) which their ancestors have followed for generations.
Everyone has their own story even I have mine, so lets hear some of it.
They claim that religious people will think God is perfect, but often portray this in contradictory and incoherent ways. Many characteristics are associated with God, some of which are impossible and some combinations are just as impossible in their realistic mind.
I have never met any theist who could provide a clear definition of what God is. Not what it did, what it does, or who he is?
What is God composed of? Give me its chemical composition or forever shut up about this fictional character.
Well, if we consider the wise (and technically accurate) words of "Morpheus", "reality is just a series of electrical impulses interpreted by your brain".
Nothing is "improbable": it just hasn't been proved (right or not) yet.
Nothing is "improbable": it just hasn't been proved (right or not) yet.
I would agree that reality is just a sense of electrical impulses, so much so that I question whether humans have any free will at all, which would but a dent in any religious dogma. Any series of actions, or inaction, must be fueled by neural impulses, all of which are chemical signals triggered by external stimuli. Chemical transmitter signaling molecules creating our perceived interpretations of reality, and every neural impulse must be influenced by a previous neural impulse. And so the influence of these impulses may not actually happen by "us", meaning we are balls of meat wondering around, sentient, and somehow aware of the stimuli that interact with us.
Not much religion would play into this, of course. We're just here by chance.
af_newbie: which is why this remains a philosophical topic. Everybody keeps saying proving (one thing or another) is "impossible", and nobody focuses on actually finding a solution to the problem at hand. Very convenient for some.
In any case, it's not a scientific issue. Religion is not scientific, and neither is atheism.
Best case scenario it's a clash of opinions.
In any case, it's not a scientific issue. Religion is not scientific, and neither is atheism.
Best case scenario it's a clash of opinions.
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