Topic: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 124. (Read 901362 times)

What? Revolution like theory? Darwin is a form of apes? I realty dontc understand what did u say here...

I dont deny that creation may have happened elsewhere on other planets and can happen in the future. Just not by god as described in religious literature. I just dont have unrealistic beliefs in some omnipresent god type character . The bible is as far as we can know it a work of fiction, There is no reason to think otherwise, The first and biggest problem with it is that it was written by man in an age where not much was known about anything. If you like it was our very first attempt at science and also our worst.

That is an interesting religious sentiment you have there.

Unfortunately for a bunch of people who resist God, they will come to their ultimate end, while those of us who acknowledge God and Jesus salvation will rise into everlasting glory.

One of the foundations on which I stand is the recognition that we don't really know where this universe came from, and very little about how it works. Those who say that they know don't have any proof for what they say. The point is, there is no way that we can know, on our own, whether or not there will be a resurrection. Creation happened once without our understanding how. Why can't it happen again?

Fortunately god and his disciples are coming closer to an end. In time religion will be done away with as it should. Many people still need a god for comfort or other reasons but soon enough humanity will come to its senses.

Dont worry if your not the chosen few from israel , it matters not.

I think that it is the reverse that is the strength. Look at all the people in the world who believe in God in one form or another. Why do you think that God doesn't exist? The odds are against you. The fact that you are setting yourself up as an authority, shows us that at the very least, you believe yourself to be God, even though yo do not formally acknowledge it.

In addition, the scientific proof I have shown all along for the existence of God still stands. Right next to it is nature and the universe which is so extremely marvelous that it would take a real powerful God to allow it to come into being. Then there is the Bible record, which, if you check into the details of how it came into being, is a miracle in itself.

If the above weren't enough, then consider all the science that is theory. This means that the scientists, themselves, who have designed all kinds of methods for the marvels of the universe to exist, aren't sure that they are right... even though they often claim that they are right. God and the Bible are way stronger than these self-glorifying scientists, and their disciples.

You are on the losing end of your questions, my friend.

Even God doesn't force anybody to believe Him. He simply shows them the miracles of nature, the nation of Israel, and the Bible, and lets them make their own choice.

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How do you know this? Have you spoken with this invisible person? You cannot use "the bible tells me so" as we have already proved that it is a work of fiction. Either you are delusional or psychotic. I'll let you decide which one suits.

Even God doesn't force anybody to believe Him. He simply shows them the miracles of nature, the nation of Israel, and the Bible, and lets them make their own choice. I certainly don't want to take your freedom of choice away from you.

BADecker why do you resort to name calling? You resort to this when your arguments lack logic or sense.

As for your arguments about Police cars and such..... Only religious idealists suggest the Bible is the truth. Yet you yourself have acknowledged it isn't so. Please find a point and stick to it.

Please show me the evidence you speak of about your "God". I long to see this evidence. Only fanatics can see something and believe it to be evidence. Those of us with intellect question and find that religion is purely to keep the mindless masses in check with fear based fiction.

My Faith tells me that Lord of the Rings is Truth. Just the same logic as your faith tells you the Fictional book called "The Bible" is your truth.

You speak for God proves that your "God" is impotent and worthless. Gimme Gandalf the Grey anytime!

There is another thing you have blundered into. After all, did I ever show that circle? No. You were the one who showed it. So, you were the one who blundered into it, just like you blundered into your atheism/anti-God stupidity.

Where you're reply crashes to the ground is you've foolishly claimed the bible is the word of God and you've blundered into this fatal circular reasoning loop.



Break the loop and I'll continue talking and educating you. (Spoiler alert: You won't.)  

Good for you. After all, the only thing worthwhile in life is the enjoyment you get out of it. So, enjoy while you can.



When God speaks to people directly, He does it from deep down inside the person. The Bible is essentially for comparison purposes. If what a person hears from deep down inside matches the Bible, then he is hearing God speaking in himself. If what he hears doesn't match the Bible, then it is himself or the devil speaking to himself. If one doesn't look at the Bible, he doesn't know when God is speaking. But God indeed speaks to the hearts of all people.

All I can do is convey the truth, I can do no more than that.

LOL. Sometimes I feel a bit like Wikileaks. You know, a beacon of truth in an ocean of lies.




LOL, Oh yes BADlogic, yes indeed, it most certainly is.

Your quote bookmarked for future entertainment purposes.
 




I don't accept any "messages" or "instructions" from God via third parties. Bible, Jesus, preists, vicars, pastors, prophets, YOU, are all third parties, thus as a standard life rule, are ignored and will continue to be ignored.

If God wants to give me a message it will come directly from him to me, with no middle men.
It will be clear, concise, unmistakeable, unavoidable, with no room for interpretation errors.

Edit: Oh, by the way, lying by claiming you're actually following a message from God to tell me your nonsense won't work.

Perhaps if YOU knew what you were thinking, neither of us would appear as ignorant as you are.


You are so silly. Does a fire truck cease to do its job because a little of the paint was chipped off? Does a police car cease to carry the cops if one of its gumball lights is broken? The message of the Bible does not change just because a little of the exterior appearance is slightly different.


Take a look at the size and complexity of the bible. Among other things, God is showing us that we, alone, can't follow it completely. We need His help to follow it completely.

How does one do the works of God? By believing in Jesus, the One He sent. When we believe in Jesus salvation, the works of God are attributed to us, through faith, so that we are pure in God's sight.


Thank you for the congrats. A person who believes in something without any evidence behind it, has blind faith. This is like the atheists.

A person who weighs the evidence, and has faith where the strongest evidence exists, has great faith.

The universe and God are far too complex for a person to even begin to understand. This is why we need to believe what God tells us.


But everybody knows for a fact that The Lord of the Rings is not truth. Blind faith is foolish faith.



I speak for God because you will not take up His Word and let it speak to you. You can find the same things that I say in God's Word, the Bible.

It isn't my idea that you are headed for Hell. God is holding you alive. But if you really want to push Him away, He will ultimately let you. All that will be left for you, then, is your everlasting dissolution in the Lake of Fire, following the Judgment.

I think a better question is why do all extremely religious people, no matter the religion, hate everyone that is not like them.

Please do not assume you know what I am thinking, It makes you appear more ignorant than your own arguments.

I suggest you look at a dictionary to see the meaning of the words "almost" and "exact". It is either one or the other. Therefore, those who translated the original text have added their own "spin" on things. Thus, the work is no longer correct and only a work of fiction.

If the Bible is the "Truth" as you say, then why do you not follow it completely? Is your "God" so impotent that he cannot change a mere mortals thoughts and behaviors?

You state you follow your "God" by faith. What is faith..... a strong belief. This does not make it true or correct. It is your opinion and only belongs to you. Congratulations on your faith.

I put my faith in my Holy Book - "Lord of the Rings". Has a much better story line and it allows me to do as I please without the need to threaten me with eternal damnation. Plus the ending is so much sweeter. I recommend you read it.

How do you also speak for your "God"? Your argument that the point Jesus was making can only be surmised that you interpret for him? Are you, your "God"? Do you worship yourself? and if so, does that mean you worship and hate yourself at the same time? If so, I would strongly suggest a Psychiatric appointment. Possible Borderline Personality Disorder?

So, my mother, father and god had a threesome in order to conceive me. 

I have no relationship with any god(s) and I prefer it this way. I don't need an imaginary friend who will take the credit for my successes while my failures will be my own doing. I learnt a long time ago that simply wishing for something doesn't get you what you want, you have to actually put some effort into achieving your goals and desires.

Yes. Jesus was very happy. Because of the joy He foresaw, He endured the cross, letting people be ashamed of Him. Because of the joy, He provided salvation for all people who will accept it, and sat down at the right hand of His Father in Heaven.

I can't wait to join Him there. But it is better for you that I remain here a while and give you these words of advice, so that maybe, you can join us there.

Hmm... NO THANKS! 

Why don't you let Jesus on board your boat, and feel the love?   

You must be thinking of scientific theories. They are exactly theories, but almost exactly whatever they are theorizing about. However, they are never know to be the truth.

The Bible is the truth, but "almost exact" is the language that many (most?) people who believe science theories to be truth think of them. So, to speak their language should they get into this thread and see my posts, "almost" is part of their language.



I follow the teachings of the Bible. How? By faith in Jesus, the exactness of obedience to the Law is within me as a gift, even when I fail at obeying the Law.

The point Jesus was making about hating that you listed above, is the point that Jesus/God/salvation has to be so much more important than all the other things in life, that if you have to choose, you will hate the other things.