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January 31, 2016, 01:31:17 PM
cultural atheism behaves like a religion itself, they try to shove their stuff down other people's throats
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January 31, 2016, 01:10:28 PM

Yes it is. You ask BitNow, I'll bet he/she says questioning doctrine is a sin.

"The fear of the Lord is the instruction of wisdom; and before honour is humility."
- Pro 15:33

"By humility and the fear of the Lord are riches, and honour, and life."
- Pro 22:4


Best regards.

So, that's a "yes"?

You need to ask a question to have an answer.

What is your question, maybe I can help you.



Religion caused wars,the worst thing with human were done in the name of religion( from ancient times till now) and we are all  witnesses how someone is using religion in his own interest. Atheists simply don't believe in nothing they live in the world that rounds them, and they follow science

They don't follow science: atheism is a sin and science comes from Wisdom witch is acquired by fearing the Lord.

If you are a sinner you need to be forgiven before fearing the lord again to find wisdom and to follow science.

Atheists are sinners: what we need to understand is if they are doing it on purpose (capital sin) or they are just ignoring the fact that they are walking on Earth sinning (minor sin).

The fact that I'm facing this sin with you is the proof that I'm involved as well.


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Then, I ask of you, what is a sin? With your definition, it might help with some clarity... Not all atheists are malicious or have any evil intentions.
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January 31, 2016, 11:51:05 AM

Yes it is. You ask BitNow, I'll bet he/she says questioning doctrine is a sin.

"The fear of the Lord is the instruction of wisdom; and before honour is humility."
- Pro 15:33

"By humility and the fear of the Lord are riches, and honour, and life."
- Pro 22:4


Best regards.

So, that's a "yes"?

You need to ask a question to have an answer.

What is your question, maybe I can help you.



Religion caused wars,the worst thing with human were done in the name of religion( from ancient times till now) and we are all  witnesses how someone is using religion in his own interest. Atheists simply don't believe in nothing they live in the world that rounds them, and they follow science

They don't follow science: atheism is a sin and science comes from Wisdom witch is acquired by fearing the Lord.

If you are a sinner you need to be forgiven before fearing the lord again to find wisdom and to follow science.

Atheists are sinners: what we need to understand is if they are doing it on purpose (capital sin) or they are just ignoring the fact that they are walking on Earth sinning (minor sin).

The fact that I'm facing this sin with you is the proof that I'm involved as well.


Best regards.
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January 31, 2016, 08:29:28 AM
Religion caused wars,the worst thing with human were done in the name of religion( from ancient times till now) and we are all  witnesses how someone is using religion in his own interest. Atheists simply don't believe in nothing they live in the world that rounds them, and they follow science
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January 31, 2016, 08:06:43 AM

Yes it is. You ask BitNow, I'll bet he/she says questioning doctrine is a sin.

"The fear of the Lord is the instruction of wisdom; and before honour is humility."
- Pro 15:33

"By humility and the fear of the Lord are riches, and honour, and life."
- Pro 22:4


Best regards.

So, that's a "yes"?
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January 31, 2016, 07:31:52 AM

Yes it is. You ask BitNow, I'll bet he/she says questioning doctrine is a sin.

"The fear of the Lord is the instruction of wisdom; and before honour is humility."
- Pro 15:33

"By humility and the fear of the Lord are riches, and honour, and life."
- Pro 22:4


Best regards.
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January 31, 2016, 12:32:52 AM
What do you mean - there are a lot of things in science that haven't been proven, but logic says that they are real: cold fusion, black
holes. These are theories. But just because science hasn't gained up with the reality it doesn't mean they are nor real.

Can you mention some of the things that logic says are real and that science says is not real?

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January 31, 2016, 12:30:37 AM
I don't hate any religion but yeah, some facts and rituals are quite unfair. Almost all religions have different rules for men and women. I don't think any religion should differentiate between two genders.

My religion as well has some facts I don't agree with. "If someone strikes you on the cheek, offer the other cheek as well." "If one doesn't go to the Church on every Sunday, he is a sinner".

Religion shouldn't make someone lose their self respect or make anything compulsory for a person else they are called sinners. I'm not an atheist but do criticize religion at times.

I absolutely agree with you.. We should critisize our religions sometimes rather than believe in it without thinking. . Thinking on its doctrine is Not a sin..

Yes it is. You ask BitNow, I'll bet he/she says questioning doctrine is a sin.
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January 30, 2016, 04:28:47 AM
I don't hate any religion but yeah, some facts and rituals are quite unfair. Almost all religions have different rules for men and women. I don't think any religion should differentiate between two genders.

My religion as well has some facts I don't agree with. "If someone strikes you on the cheek, offer the other cheek as well." "If one doesn't go to the Church on every Sunday, he is a sinner".

Religion shouldn't make someone lose their self respect or make anything compulsory for a person else they are called sinners. I'm not an atheist but do criticize religion at times.

I absolutely agree with you.. We should critisize our religions sometimes rather than believe in it without thinking. . Thinking on its doctrine is Not a sin..
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January 29, 2016, 09:13:32 AM
"planning for life after death."??
Dude, that's just... I mean... Know what? You plan for life after death. I'll stick to my gadgets.
We'll leave you alone with your "religious science" and just hope that you'll do the same.
I'm sick of Jehova's Witnesses knocking on my door at 7 in the morning on saturdays - that's the real sin.

I like the gadgets, as well. But since the gadgets and the whole of science come from God, if you don't prepare for everlasting life like Gos says in the Bible, you will find yourself in everlasting death.

Those JWs are simply trying to protect you from the pain of everlasting death.

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January 29, 2016, 09:10:19 AM
"planning for life after death."??
Dude, that's just... I mean... Know what? You plan for life after death. I'll stick to my gadgets.
We'll leave you alone with your "religious science" and just hope that you'll do the same.
I'm sick of Jehova's Witnesses knocking on my door at 7 in the morning on saturdays - that's the real sin.

Ahah! At least in France Jehova's Witnesses are not a thing  Grin

Religion lost the majority of its power with science development. Only idiots think the Bible is anything more than a text to interpret. ^^

Science over the Bible is simply a bad religion replacing a good religion.   Smiley
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January 29, 2016, 08:55:52 AM
"planning for life after death."??
Dude, that's just... I mean... Know what? You plan for life after death. I'll stick to my gadgets.
We'll leave you alone with your "religious science" and just hope that you'll do the same.
I'm sick of Jehova's Witnesses knocking on my door at 7 in the morning on saturdays - that's the real sin.

Ahah! At least in France Jehova's Witnesses are not a thing  Grin

Religion lost the majority of its power with science development. Only idiots think the Bible is anything more than a text to interpret. ^^
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January 29, 2016, 08:53:28 AM
"planning for life after death."??
Dude, that's just... I mean... Know what? You plan for life after death. I'll stick to my gadgets.
We'll leave you alone with your "religious science" and just hope that you'll do the same.
I'm sick of Jehova's Witnesses knocking on my door at 7 in the morning on saturdays - that's the real sin.
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January 27, 2016, 11:15:11 PM
21st century, people have sent robots to other planets, made virtual reality, found a way to use solar energy, made prosthetic arm that can feel, gave the sight to the blind and much, much more every single day... and yet some people still believe in something that sand gypsies wrote thousands of years ago.

Yes, but...

People still live to, usually, under 100 years old. All the fun gadgets we have are there only to distract people from the importance of planning for life after death.

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January 27, 2016, 09:43:57 PM
21st century, people have sent robots to other planets, made virtual reality, found a way to use solar energy, made prosthetic arm that can feel, gave the sight to the blind and much, much more every single day... and yet some people still believe in something that sand gypsies wrote thousands of years ago.
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January 27, 2016, 05:10:50 PM
Still, in this day of age people cling to religion to have all the facts? Jeez...

Not true. Most (all?) religions are upheld through some form of faith. Faith has to do with not knowing facts, but believing that some ideas are facts, even when it has not been proven that they are facts.

This is why science is religion. Many people believe some of the theories of science to be true, even though these theories have not been proven factual. They have a science religion going for themselves.

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January 27, 2016, 05:07:19 PM
What do you mean - there are a lot of things in science that haven't been proven, but logic says that they are real: cold fusion, black
holes. These are theories. But just because science hasn't gained up with the reality it doesn't mean they are nor real.

If logic said that the theories were real, then they would not be theories. They would be facts.

Just because a theory is made up of a conglomeration of facts that have not been proven to be true in that kind of configuration, does not stop the facts from being facts individually. Nor does it make the theory to be factual in the way that the facts are combined to form the theory.

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January 27, 2016, 05:03:56 PM

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

That's why I wanted to go deeper, cause I was more or less sure you were confusing things  Cheesy

What's a fact?

Giving your ability to navigate Bitcointalk, I should think that you can look it up in an online dictionary or encyclopedia. Can't you?

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Well I would have loved to hear your definition...

You see the problem is Oxfor definition is: "A thing that is known or proved to be true"
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/fr/definition/anglais/fact

So proved by what? A theory? But then what proves the theory?

My point is that there is NOTHING in science that can be considered as a "fact". They are only deduction of theories, theories being based on assumption.

So there is no "science theory" and "science fact". Only science. And that's what it taught in schools.

You contradict the Oxford theory definition.

A theory is in fact a theory, because it is proven to be a theory because it is potential logical while at the same time not proven to be fact.

Theories are factually theories, and facts are factually facts.

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January 27, 2016, 03:38:37 PM
What do you mean - there are a lot of things in science that haven't been proven, but logic says that they are real: cold fusion, black
holes. These are theories. But just because science hasn't gained up with the reality it doesn't mean they are nor real.

I quote that.


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January 27, 2016, 03:36:29 PM
Still, in this day of age people cling to religion to have all the facts? Jeez...
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