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legendary
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January 13, 2016, 04:41:35 PM

You post in a thread discussing attitudes of atheists, and yet you can't have a discussion with one. Is it typical of religionists to just make assumptions about a subject rather than ask someone who actually knows about it?

If I ever want to know about attitudes and beliefs of religionists, I ask a religionist. However if you want to ask about the beliefs of atheists, you ask another religionist? What sense does that make?

Given that Believing involves Faith, your post is the key of all the discussion: FAITH.

Faith: does it exist without God?

For BADecker (user) Faith can be unrelated to God and, as atheists show some form of faith, user BADecker comes to the conclusion that: atheism is a Religion (user BADecker conclusion).

My point:
- Leave faith of the atheists aside (1 less problem to take care of)
- Atheism is a capital sin (idolatry for 1st Commandement and punishment in the "Golden Calf episode", Ex 32:4)

As you stated previously that you are an atheist, how do you relate to yourself the word Faith?

Thank You


Best regards.

A question before I answer yours: How is atheism "idolatry"? Isn't that reserved for other religions?
what a wonderful thing to see here, reason in the midst of all this religious blabbering nonsense.
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January 13, 2016, 04:36:21 PM

You post in a thread discussing attitudes of atheists, and yet you can't have a discussion with one. Is it typical of religionists to just make assumptions about a subject rather than ask someone who actually knows about it?

If I ever want to know about attitudes and beliefs of religionists, I ask a religionist. However if you want to ask about the beliefs of atheists, you ask another religionist? What sense does that make?

Given that Believing involves Faith, your post is the key of all the discussion: FAITH.

Faith: does it exist without God?

For BADecker (user) Faith can be unrelated to God and, as atheists show some form of faith, user BADecker comes to the conclusion that: atheism is a Religion (user BADecker conclusion).

My point:
- Leave faith of the atheists aside (1 less problem to take care of)
- Atheism is a capital sin (idolatry for 1st Commandement and punishment in the "Golden Calf episode", Ex 32:4)

As you stated previously that you are an atheist, how do you relate to yourself the word Faith?

Thank You


Best regards.

A question before I answer yours: How is atheism "idolatry"? Isn't that reserved for other religions?
legendary
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January 13, 2016, 04:34:19 PM

You post in a thread discussing attitudes of atheists, and yet you can't have a discussion with one. Is it typical of religionists to just make assumptions about a subject rather than ask someone who actually knows about it?

If I ever want to know about attitudes and beliefs of religionists, I ask a religionist. However if you want to ask about the beliefs of atheists, you ask another religionist? What sense does that make?

Given that Believing involves Faith, your post is the key of all the discussion: FAITH.

Faith: does it exist without God?

For BADecker (user) Faith can't be unrelated to God and, as atheists show some form of faith, user BADecker comes to the conclusion that: atheism is a Religion (user BADecker conclusion).

My point:
- Leave faith of the atheists aside (1 less problem to take care of)
- Atheism is a capital sin (idolatry for 1st Commandement and punishment in the "Golden Calf episode", Ex 32:4)

As you stated previously that you are an atheist, how do you relate to yourself the word Faith?

Thank You


Best regards.
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January 13, 2016, 04:20:13 PM


In that case, you consider any dogmatic personal interest to be a religion. Law must be religion for police and lawyers; medicine a religion for doctors; computers a religion for IT specialists. Doesn't that seem to be a bit extreme?



A Religion is a sets of dogmas on Faith.

There is nothing extreme on a definition.


Best regards.

So you're also ok with calling anything of importance to you a 'religion'? That's not how most people think of a religion.

You said in previous posts that you are an atheist: your words have no meaning to me.

If you are not an atheist or you said that previously by mistake ignore this message.

Thank You.


Best regards.



You post in a thread discussing attitudes of atheists, and yet you can't have a discussion with one. Is it typical of religionists to just make assumptions about a subject rather than ask someone who actually knows about it?

If I ever want to know about attitudes and beliefs of religionists, I ask a religionist. However if you want to ask about the beliefs of atheists, you ask another religionist? What sense does that make?
legendary
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January 13, 2016, 09:21:30 AM


In that case, you consider any dogmatic personal interest to be a religion. Law must be religion for police and lawyers; medicine a religion for doctors; computers a religion for IT specialists. Doesn't that seem to be a bit extreme?



A Religion is a sets of dogmas on Faith.

There is nothing extreme on a definition.


Best regards.

So you're also ok with calling anything of importance to you a 'religion'? That's not how most people think of a religion.

You said in previous posts that you are an atheist: your words have no meaning to me.

If you are not an atheist or you said that previously by mistake ignore this message.

Thank You.


Best regards.





I don't see anything.

I don't have time with this (shit).


Best regards.
legendary
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January 13, 2016, 09:07:38 AM


That last "brix" had sharp edges and hurt.    Cheesy

What are you talking about? Do you even know?

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January 13, 2016, 09:03:34 AM
legendary
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January 13, 2016, 08:54:16 AM
I already told you that there is BIG difference between God and Supreme. God, Alien or ET is the same thing and Supreme is a title...
Lot's of people tell lots of other people stuff.

If you can't understand that God means the Supreme Being according to dictionary definitions, nobody is going to be able to help you.


Tesla was the only scientist who understand then meaning of the Special Theory of Relativity! You can check this in his quotes about Einstein...
Okay, great! I don't care if Tesla was the only one who understood the Special Theory of Relativity, or if all the people of India understood it. Thanks for the info.


Science theory that is NOT fact is unified only with the evil spirits of the Spirit world.

I think it's time to read the interview of Nicola Tesla from 1899...

I think it is time you understood that God deals with truth. Science theory that is not fact is not truth. It is falsehood. God and good spirits do not express falsehood. However, at some times the evil spirits do express falsehood. If you don't compare what the spirits say with the things that the Word of God (the Bible) says, how are you ever going to know if you are listening to truth or falsehood from the spirits? Is it the truth simply because you feel like it is? Is it the truth simply because you want it to be?

Wake up.

Smiley

''The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power. My Mother had taught me to seek all truth in the Bible; therefore I devoted the next few months to the study of this work.'' - Nikola Tesla

This man change the world and you don't care about this?

God rewards anyone who recognizes He exists. And He rewards them more if they seek Him.

Tesla changed the world. And, he is dead. Some of his changes were great. Too bad he couldn't protect the changes from evil men.

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January 13, 2016, 07:31:12 AM


In that case, you consider any dogmatic personal interest to be a religion. Law must be religion for police and lawyers; medicine a religion for doctors; computers a religion for IT specialists. Doesn't that seem to be a bit extreme?



A Religion is a sets of dogmas on Faith.

There is nothing extreme on a definition.


Best regards.

So you're also ok with calling anything of importance to you a 'religion'? That's not how most people think of a religion.

Atheists believe in evolution story and big bang creation which are key elements in atheism religion  Smiley

In atheism religion, most important thing is to get as big ego as possible. That's what every true atheist is trying to get,
they have to be always right or else their felings get hurt and they start to post lame internet memes  Smiley

And religious people resort to name-calling when you're trying to have a logical discussion about their beliefs? It didn't escape anyone's notice that both of you completely ignored my questions, instead posting random words that had nothing to do with anything of mine you quoted.

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January 13, 2016, 07:05:46 AM
I already told you that there is BIG difference between God and Supreme. God, Alien or ET is the same thing and Supreme is a title...
Lot's of people tell lots of other people stuff.

If you can't understand that God means the Supreme Being according to dictionary definitions, nobody is going to be able to help you.


Tesla was the only scientist who understand then meaning of the Special Theory of Relativity! You can check this in his quotes about Einstein...
Okay, great! I don't care if Tesla was the only one who understood the Special Theory of Relativity, or if all the people of India understood it. Thanks for the info.


Science theory that is NOT fact is unified only with the evil spirits of the Spirit world.

I think it's time to read the interview of Nicola Tesla from 1899...

I think it is time you understood that God deals with truth. Science theory that is not fact is not truth. It is falsehood. God and good spirits do not express falsehood. However, at some times the evil spirits do express falsehood. If you don't compare what the spirits say with the things that the Word of God (the Bible) says, how are you ever going to know if you are listening to truth or falsehood from the spirits? Is it the truth simply because you feel like it is? Is it the truth simply because you want it to be?

Wake up.

Smiley

''The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power. My Mother had taught me to seek all truth in the Bible; therefore I devoted the next few months to the study of this work.'' - Nikola Tesla

This man change the world and you don't care about this?
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January 13, 2016, 06:44:39 AM


In that case, you consider any dogmatic personal interest to be a religion. Law must be religion for police and lawyers; medicine a religion for doctors; computers a religion for IT specialists. Doesn't that seem to be a bit extreme?



A Religion is a sets of dogmas on Faith.

There is nothing extreme on a definition.


Best regards.

So you're also ok with calling anything of importance to you a 'religion'? That's not how most people think of a religion.

Atheists believe in evolution story and big bang creation which are key elements in atheism religion  Smiley

In atheism religion, most important thing is to get as big ego as possible. That's what every true atheist is trying to get,
they have to be always right or else their felings get hurt and they start to post lame internet memes  Smiley
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January 13, 2016, 06:40:48 AM


In that case, you consider any dogmatic personal interest to be a religion. Law must be religion for police and lawyers; medicine a religion for doctors; computers a religion for IT specialists. Doesn't that seem to be a bit extreme?



A Religion is a sets of dogmas on Faith.

There is nothing extreme on a definition.


Best regards.

So you're also ok with calling anything of importance to you a 'religion'? That's not how most people think of a religion.

Atheists believe in evolution story and big bang creation which are key elements in atheism religion  Smiley
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January 13, 2016, 06:23:14 AM


In that case, you consider any dogmatic personal interest to be a religion. Law must be religion for police and lawyers; medicine a religion for doctors; computers a religion for IT specialists. Doesn't that seem to be a bit extreme?



A Religion is a sets of dogmas on Faith.

There is nothing extreme on a definition.


Best regards.

So you're also ok with calling anything of importance to you a 'religion'? That's not how most people think of a religion.
legendary
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January 13, 2016, 06:09:24 AM


In that case, you consider any dogmatic personal interest to be a religion. Law must be religion for police and lawyers; medicine a religion for doctors; computers a religion for IT specialists. Doesn't that seem to be a bit extreme?



A Religion is a sets of dogmas on Faith.

There is nothing extreme on a definition.


Best regards.
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January 13, 2016, 06:02:20 AM

There is plenty of information that shows that atheism is a religion. The funny thing about it is, when you come to information that describes how atheism is NOT a religion, it says it in such a way that essentially proves atheism to be a religion.

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Interestingly, the only information that describes atheism as a religion is published by religionists. Atheists, OTOH, don't:

From https://atheists.org/activism/resources/what-is-atheism


The point is the description. Of course the people who want it this way, or the people who want it that way, are often going to describe using descriptions that point in a direct that they want to describe in. The thing to do is to take the descriptions, break them down, and see what is accurate... if you are even interested.

The way that the various atheists act regarding their atheism is extremely similar to the way people of formal religions act regarding their religion. There are lots of atheists that hardly ever give their atheism a second thought. There are lots of people of the various formal religions that hardly ever give their religion a second thought. There are all kinds of atheists that have "heavy" dogma regarding their atheism, and they express it just the way they want it to be. We all know that there are people of formal religions that do similar with their religion.

If you consider Christianity to be a religion, you might consider that Islam is not when comparing the two. Yet the differences between Christianity and Islam are simply distinctions in religion. It is the same with atheism and Christianity and Islam. One of the distinctions that atheism has is that generally they don't consider their religion to be a religion. One of the distinctions that Christianity and atheism have is that they don't consider their religion a government, while Islam does.

The similarities between atheism and religion are so great that if atheism is not a religion, it is extremely close.

Smiley


In that case, you consider any dogmatic personal interest to be a religion. Law must be religion for police and lawyers; medicine a religion for doctors; computers a religion for IT specialists. Doesn't that seem to be a bit extreme?

legendary
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January 13, 2016, 04:26:41 AM

There is plenty of information that shows that atheism is a religion. The funny thing about it is, when you come to information that describes how atheism is NOT a religion, it says it in such a way that essentially proves atheism to be a religion.

Smiley

Interestingly, the only information that describes atheism as a religion is published by religionists. Atheists, OTOH, don't:

From https://atheists.org/activism/resources/what-is-atheism


The point is the description. Of course the people who want it this way, or the people who want it that way, are often going to describe using descriptions that point in a direct that they want to describe in. The thing to do is to take the descriptions, break them down, and see what is accurate... if you are even interested.

The way that the various atheists act regarding their atheism is extremely similar to the way people of formal religions act regarding their religion. There are lots of atheists that hardly ever give their atheism a second thought. There are lots of people of the various formal religions that hardly ever give their religion a second thought. There are all kinds of atheists that have "heavy" dogma regarding their atheism, and they express it just the way they want it to be. We all know that there are people of formal religions that do similar with their religion.

If you consider Christianity to be a religion, you might consider that Islam is not when comparing the two. Yet the differences between Christianity and Islam are simply distinctions in religion. It is the same with atheism and Christianity and Islam. One of the distinctions that atheism has is that generally they don't consider their religion to be a religion. One of the distinctions that Christianity and atheism have is that they don't consider their religion a government, while Islam does.

The similarities between atheism and religion are so great that if atheism is not a religion, it is extremely close.

Smiley
legendary
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January 13, 2016, 04:05:12 AM
Religion:





Science:





Which of these seems more spiritually moving to you?


Science comes from the Fear of the Lord.
"Wisdom’s instruction is to fear the Lord,
and humility comes before honor.
"
- Pro 15:33

Wisdom leads to Science.

There is no Science in atheism.


Best regards.


PS: this user was posting Satan's images in previous posts: beware him.
legendary
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January 13, 2016, 03:32:07 AM
Science:





Which of these seems more spiritually moving to you?

God created Earth, nebulas and all other beautiful things.
It makes me spiritually moved Smiley

Those two images are faker than reality TV. I hate to say it but atheists are a bunch of gullible morons being totally mind fucked by the high priests of science.
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January 13, 2016, 02:51:45 AM
Science:





Which of these seems more spiritually moving to you?

God created Earth, nebulas and all other beautiful things.
It makes me spiritually moved Smiley

God didn't create god, therefore god is not beautiful?

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth  Smiley
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January 13, 2016, 02:21:52 AM
Science:





Which of these seems more spiritually moving to you?

God created Earth, nebulas and all other beautiful things.
It makes me spiritually moved Smiley

God didn't create god, therefore god is not beautiful?
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