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January 15, 2016, 07:36:08 AM
You use a small amount of "energy" to contradict me here. Perhaps you have much more of this energy within yourself. If I contradict you more, will this energy of yours come out in further contradictions? The more you are set within yourself to care, and then back it up by using your energy, the more of a personal religion you have.

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Great, we're getting closer to a definition of religion! How many joules of energy does it take before an opinion becomes a religion? Some hard data here would be most welcome.

You must mean that you are figuring out how to use a dictionary or encyclopedia, or how to look up information on the Internet. 'Bout time.

Smiley

You say the more energy we use to espouse a particular point of view, the more it becomes a religion. What is the limit? How many joules of energy does it take before an opinion becomes a religion?


Notice that the energy that I used was in quotes. This means that I am using the word in ways that may not always be defined directly. Rather, I am using it to get an idea of sorts across.

The idea of measuring the amount of energy it takes for any mental process is probably something that many researchers are investigating.

How much energy does it take for the whole process whereby you sit there and write goofy stuff?

Smiley

What does it mean that you are "using the word in ways that may not always be defined directly"? Can you give examples of other words that cannot be "be defined directly"?


Time for you to go back to school, it seems.   Smiley

You have a terrible habit of not answering questions that make you think about your beliefs, don't you? All I'm politely asking for is a simple answer. Be rude if you must.

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January 15, 2016, 07:33:19 AM
You use a small amount of "energy" to contradict me here. Perhaps you have much more of this energy within yourself. If I contradict you more, will this energy of yours come out in further contradictions? The more you are set within yourself to care, and then back it up by using your energy, the more of a personal religion you have.

Smiley

Great, we're getting closer to a definition of religion! How many joules of energy does it take before an opinion becomes a religion? Some hard data here would be most welcome.

You must mean that you are figuring out how to use a dictionary or encyclopedia, or how to look up information on the Internet. 'Bout time.

Smiley

You say the more energy we use to espouse a particular point of view, the more it becomes a religion. What is the limit? How many joules of energy does it take before an opinion becomes a religion?


Notice that the energy that I used was in quotes. This means that I am using the word in ways that may not always be defined directly. Rather, I am using it to get an idea of sorts across.

The idea of measuring the amount of energy it takes for any mental process is probably something that many researchers are investigating.

How much energy does it take for the whole process whereby you sit there and write goofy stuff?

Smiley

What does it mean that you are "using the word in ways that may not always be defined directly"? Can you give examples of other words that cannot be "be defined directly"?


Time for you to go back to school, it seems.   Smiley
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January 15, 2016, 07:28:05 AM
You use a small amount of "energy" to contradict me here. Perhaps you have much more of this energy within yourself. If I contradict you more, will this energy of yours come out in further contradictions? The more you are set within yourself to care, and then back it up by using your energy, the more of a personal religion you have.

Smiley

Great, we're getting closer to a definition of religion! How many joules of energy does it take before an opinion becomes a religion? Some hard data here would be most welcome.

You must mean that you are figuring out how to use a dictionary or encyclopedia, or how to look up information on the Internet. 'Bout time.

Smiley

You say the more energy we use to espouse a particular point of view, the more it becomes a religion. What is the limit? How many joules of energy does it take before an opinion becomes a religion?


Notice that the energy that I used was in quotes. This means that I am using the word in ways that may not always be defined directly. Rather, I am using it to get an idea of sorts across.

The idea of measuring the amount of energy it takes for any mental process is probably something that many researchers are investigating.

How much energy does it take for the whole process whereby you sit there and write goofy stuff?

Smiley

What does it mean that you are "using the word in ways that may not always be defined directly"? Can you give examples of other words that cannot be "be defined directly"?
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January 15, 2016, 07:15:34 AM
You use a small amount of "energy" to contradict me here. Perhaps you have much more of this energy within yourself. If I contradict you more, will this energy of yours come out in further contradictions? The more you are set within yourself to care, and then back it up by using your energy, the more of a personal religion you have.

Smiley

Great, we're getting closer to a definition of religion! How many joules of energy does it take before an opinion becomes a religion? Some hard data here would be most welcome.

You must mean that you are figuring out how to use a dictionary or encyclopedia, or how to look up information on the Internet. 'Bout time.

Smiley

You say the more energy we use to espouse a particular point of view, the more it becomes a religion. What is the limit? How many joules of energy does it take before an opinion becomes a religion?


Notice that the energy that I used was in quotes. This means that I am using the word in ways that may not always be defined directly. Rather, I am using it to get an idea of sorts across.

The idea of measuring the amount of energy it takes for any mental process is probably something that many researchers are investigating.

How much energy does it take for the whole process whereby you sit there and write goofy stuff?

Smiley
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January 15, 2016, 07:10:29 AM
You use a small amount of "energy" to contradict me here. Perhaps you have much more of this energy within yourself. If I contradict you more, will this energy of yours come out in further contradictions? The more you are set within yourself to care, and then back it up by using your energy, the more of a personal religion you have.

Smiley

Great, we're getting closer to a definition of religion! How many joules of energy does it take before an opinion becomes a religion? Some hard data here would be most welcome.

You must mean that you are figuring out how to use a dictionary or encyclopedia, or how to look up information on the Internet. 'Bout time.

Smiley

You say the more energy we use to espouse a particular point of view, the more it becomes a religion. What is the limit? How many joules of energy does it take before an opinion becomes a religion?
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January 15, 2016, 07:07:09 AM
I already told you that there is BIG difference between God and Supreme. God, Alien or ET is the same thing and Supreme is a title...
Lot's of people tell lots of other people stuff.

If you can't understand that God means the Supreme Being according to dictionary definitions, nobody is going to be able to help you.


Tesla was the only scientist who understand then meaning of the Special Theory of Relativity! You can check this in his quotes about Einstein...
Okay, great! I don't care if Tesla was the only one who understood the Special Theory of Relativity, or if all the people of India understood it. Thanks for the info.


Science theory that is NOT fact is unified only with the evil spirits of the Spirit world.

I think it's time to read the interview of Nicola Tesla from 1899...

I think it is time you understood that God deals with truth. Science theory that is not fact is not truth. It is falsehood. God and good spirits do not express falsehood. However, at some times the evil spirits do express falsehood. If you don't compare what the spirits say with the things that the Word of God (the Bible) says, how are you ever going to know if you are listening to truth or falsehood from the spirits? Is it the truth simply because you feel like it is? Is it the truth simply because you want it to be?

Wake up.

Smiley

''The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power. My Mother had taught me to seek all truth in the Bible; therefore I devoted the next few months to the study of this work.'' - Nikola Tesla

This man change the world and you don't care about this?

God rewards anyone who recognizes He exists. And He rewards them more if they seek Him.

Tesla changed the world. And, he is dead. Some of his changes were great. Too bad he couldn't protect the changes from evil men.

Smiley

Well, let me tell you something about Tesla... After he devote his entire life to study the spiritual world throughout the science, he found out that everything what is written in the Bible can be decoded throughout the Yoga! Smiley

Tesla was very smart. Probably he was using an early form of what would become modern Quantum Math in his future.

Thank Goodness that we have the Bible, because not even the Indians who use Yoga have done this decoding without seeing the Bible first... if they have even done it then.

Smiley

If you read his interview from 1899 you will realize that he was a gifted person. Before he became a successful in the science, he was having some visions.

In the Revelation of John there are so many symbols and codes that Yoga can decode it, that's why the government want to ban this ancient sacred text... Smiley
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January 15, 2016, 06:51:24 AM
Its not that i hate religion but some religious actions does not jive to what they suppose to be. Although there are really good people.

Sometimes i dont want to be with my religious friends because there are many restrictions to what i do what i say and others.

That's my experience.

Your life - the way you live - is your religion. Everyone has religion.

Smiley

I don't have a religion, rather a simple human morale.

You use a small amount of "energy" to contradict me here. Perhaps you have much more of this energy within yourself. If I contradict you more, will this energy of yours come out in further contradictions? The more you are set within yourself to care, and then back it up by using your energy, the more of a personal religion you have.

Smiley

Great, we're getting closer to a definition of religion! How many joules of energy does it take before an opinion becomes a religion? Some hard data here would be most welcome.

You must mean that you are figuring out how to use a dictionary or encyclopedia, or how to look up information on the Internet. 'Bout time.

Smiley
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January 15, 2016, 06:21:19 AM
Its not that i hate religion but some religious actions does not jive to what they suppose to be. Although there are really good people.

Sometimes i dont want to be with my religious friends because there are many restrictions to what i do what i say and others.

That's my experience.

Your life - the way you live - is your religion. Everyone has religion.

Smiley

I don't have a religion, rather a simple human morale.

You use a small amount of "energy" to contradict me here. Perhaps you have much more of this energy within yourself. If I contradict you more, will this energy of yours come out in further contradictions? The more you are set within yourself to care, and then back it up by using your energy, the more of a personal religion you have.

Smiley

Great, we're getting closer to a definition of religion! How many joules of energy does it take before an opinion becomes a religion? Some hard data here would be most welcome.
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January 15, 2016, 06:19:39 AM
Its not that i hate religion but some religious actions does not jive to what they suppose to be. Although there are really good people.

Sometimes i dont want to be with my religious friends because there are many restrictions to what i do what i say and others.

That's my experience.

Your life - the way you live - is your religion. Everyone has religion.

Smiley

I don't have a religion, rather a simple human morale.

You use a small amount of "energy" to contradict me here. Perhaps you have much more of this energy within yourself. If I contradict you more, will this energy of yours come out in further contradictions? The more you are set within yourself to care, and then back it up by using your energy, the more of a personal religion you have.

Smiley
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January 15, 2016, 06:15:40 AM
Its not that i hate religion but some religious actions does not jive to what they suppose to be. Although there are really good people.

Sometimes i dont want to be with my religious friends because there are many restrictions to what i do what i say and others.

That's my experience.

Your life - the way you live - is your religion. Everyone has religion.

Smiley

I don't have a religion, rather a simple human morale.
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January 15, 2016, 05:51:09 AM
Its not that i hate religion but some religious actions does not jive to what they suppose to be. Although there are really good people.

Sometimes i dont want to be with my religious friends because there are many restrictions to what i do what i say and others.

That's my experience.

Your life - the way you live - is your religion. Everyone has religion.

Smiley
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January 15, 2016, 05:37:31 AM
Its not that i hate religion but some religious actions does not jive to what they suppose to be. Although there are really good people.

Sometimes i dont want to be with my religious friends because there are many restrictions to what i do what i say and others.

That's my experience.
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January 15, 2016, 05:36:30 AM

I don't even pretend to understand that last comment, but all I'm doing it attempting to have a debate with you. All you're doing is avoiding making sense. I have to wonder why? Are you a secret atheist trying to make religious people look disingenuous?



So: you are gay, and you avoid the question when asked directly. Good to know.

So: you just resort to what you think is name-calling when you feel threatened, when I've been nothing but polite and patient with you? Good to know.

Me and user BADecker are saying the same thing: atheism is idolatry, what we disagree is the punishment.
For me: atheism is a capital sin (punishment is death according to the Golden Calf episode Ex 32:4)
For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

And probably even more than that: we agree that atheism is a capital sin.

We disagree on the application of this law:
For me: we should kill them all and leave the problem aside.
For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

Thank You.


Best regards.


I'm not even talking about atheism.

You are not talking about atheism: so what are you talking about?

Idolatry of course. You were the one who brought it up. If you have already forgotten, just look a few pages back.

My question again: BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?


Believe regarding to what?

I'm an engineer not a priest.


In regard to this: BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't, and why do you think you are correct and not BADecker?

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January 15, 2016, 05:20:36 AM

Me and user BADecker are saying the same thing: atheism is idolatry, what we disagree is the punishment.
For me: atheism is a capital sin (punishment is death according to the Golden Calf episode Ex 32:4)
For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

And probably even more than that: we agree that atheism is a capital sin.

We disagree on the application of this law:
For me: we should kill them all and leave the problem aside.
For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

Thank You.


Best regards.


I'm not even talking about atheism.

You are not talking about atheism: so what are you talking about?

My question again: BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?


Believe regarding to what?

I'm an engineer not a priest.

Thank You.


Best regards.
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January 15, 2016, 05:17:51 AM

I don't even pretend to understand that last comment, but all I'm doing it attempting to have a debate with you. All you're doing is avoiding making sense. I have to wonder why? Are you a secret atheist trying to make religious people look disingenuous?


So: you are gay, and you avoid the question when asked directly. Good to know.

So: you just resort to what you think is name-calling when you feel threatened, when I've been nothing but polite and patient with you? Good to know.

Me and user BADecker are saying the same thing: atheism is idolatry, what we disagree is the punishment.
For me: atheism is a capital sin (punishment is death according to the Golden Calf episode Ex 32:4)
For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

And probably even more than that: we agree that atheism is a capital sin.

We disagree on the application of this law:
For me: we should kill them all and leave the problem aside.
For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

Thank You.


Best regards.


I'm not even talking about atheism.

My question again: BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?
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January 15, 2016, 05:10:43 AM

I don't even pretend to understand that last comment, but all I'm doing it attempting to have a debate with you. All you're doing is avoiding making sense. I have to wonder why? Are you a secret atheist trying to make religious people look disingenuous?


So: you are gay, and you avoid the question when asked directly. Good to know.

Me and user BADecker are saying the same thing: atheism is idolatry, what we disagree is the punishment.
For me: atheism is a capital sin (punishment is death according to the Golden Calf episode Ex 32:4)
For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

And probably even more than that: we agree that atheism is a capital sin.

We disagree on the application of this law:
For me: we should kill them all and leave the problem aside.
For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

Thank You.


Best regards.
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January 15, 2016, 05:04:02 AM
I thought religions were a way for trolls to get together and put normal people in baskets, tape them up and send them to Moldova?  Am I wrong?
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January 15, 2016, 05:01:03 AM

There is a significant difference. I understand English might not be your first language, so I'll make it even more simple:

BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?

You should believe God not men.

Thank You.


Best regards.

So, you can't or don't want to answer my question? I wonder if that's because you don't want to admit you were wrong, or don't want to upset BADecker?


I wonder why are you stick so much to people's words: I'm not a lady... are you gay?

Best regards.

I don't even pretend to understand that last comment, but all I'm doing it attempting to have a debate with you. All you're doing is avoiding making sense. I have to wonder why? Are you a secret atheist trying to make religious people look disingenuous?



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January 15, 2016, 04:56:55 AM
Faith to me is knowing that whatever I do, Zeus is watching over me... One day through keen worship of the one true god ZEUS I hope to get to Valhalla.

You think Zeus is watching over you because you are wise.
"Wisdom’s instruction is to fear the Lord,
and humility comes before honor.
"
- Pro 15:33

Wisdom leads to science.

Do you hate Science?



Of course I dont hate science, Zeus used science to create the big bang 6 billion years ago, and he continues to use it daily for all manner of events.
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January 15, 2016, 04:56:09 AM

So, you don't or cant answer my question? I wonder if that's because you don't want to admit you were wrong, or don't want to upset BADecker?

I wonder why are you stick so much to people's words: I'm not a lady... are you gay?

Believe God's words not mens.


Best regards.
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